Jets Vs. Browns POSTGAME REACTION | Unkillable Live Episode 42

Jets Vs. Browns POSTGAME REACTION | Unkillable Live Episode 42

What’s up everybody? Episode number 42 of Unkillable. Just got in. Still wet. Um, honestly, good day. And I already know that I’m going to deal with some of you today and some of you tomorrow. Oh, the Jets won. Oh, this sucks. Oh, this is going to further hurt our draft position. Listen, I think you guys are looking at it the wrong way. I really do. First of all, to me, you had to get some wins here, man. I I I understand that you you know that they need a quarterback because Justin Fields just is not it. We know that and and and it’s obvious that the Jets need some real weapons, right? So that’s that’s basic stuff. We all we all know that here. Um put it this way. I think it’s so I don’t want to go nuts and say so impressive, but so important to get a win like they did against Cincinnati. go into the by-week, have a productive by week, and then come out and get another win. I mean, to me, that’s that’s the culture uh that that you’re chasing here. That just tells me that the building’s getting a little healthier here. And I think that, you know, guys start to buy in. Um granted, you know, the Browns suck. You know, the Bengals defense is awful. Uh, I’m not saying they they were the prettiest wins here, but and and really the manner in which they won, you know, I think one of the fastest ways to turn around a a bad team is to start doing some stuff on special teams. And they, you know, they ripped off a what was it? 99 yard kickoff return, 74 yard punt return. They had six sacks, which is awesome. Will McDonald had four. So, I am absolutely enthused. I had a good time. You know, I I I went to the game, as you know. Now, I think it’s important to to go and and like feel the energy. Not that there was a ton of energy, but you know, just to to be within the fan base. I think anybody that that’s doing a pod or, you know, that does this and and doesn’t go out there and and get in the mix once in a while, I think it’s really hard to get a a good sense of what the fans are thinking. And I got there pretty early. I had good seats. Um we were in section 216 right around the 40. Uh so that’s obviously the second level and we had the um we had access to the Corona Club. You know, nothing’s free. You got to pay for it. So it wound up being probably probably about a $1,000 day uh for myself and my two kids, my wife and and my mother and father-in-law who I brought. Uh but it was well worth it. You know, we got there early. Like I said, we were we were probably there. And let me tell you, first of all, it’s a minor miracle that we actually got there on time. I mean, my in-laws got in from Dallas on Thursday. Um, I surprised them with this. It’s their anniversary. We did some other stuff, but my father-in-law is from Ohio, so he grew up a big Browns fan. Not not that much anymore. He’s more Cowboys at this point, but you know, Jets were playing the Browns and I I go to at least a game every year. And um you know so I told them when well I told him Friday night at dinner, hey I’ve got a surprise. going to do this and then you know because I’m very regimented and very structured um you know I I tried to impress upon everybody all right guys we have to leave by 10:30ish you know to get there and navigate traffic on Route 3 getting into the parking lot getting a spot you know knowing that 10:30 would become you know 10:40 and then 10:45 so you know not to not to cast any aspersions but of course at 1050 50. I’m sitting in my I’m in my driveway and who’s in the car with me? My son, and my father-in-law. Who are we waiting on? My wife, my daughter, and my mother-in-law, of course. Like, I mean, that that was the easiest bet of the weekend, right? So, we actually got there really really um made good timing even though we were a little a little bit behind schedule from where I wanted to be. So, it was um it was it was dry to start and then third quarter it started to rain pretty heavily and the four of them went inside and my son and I kind of toughed it out for a little bit and then I’m like this is ridiculous. Let’s go sit inside and we watched the game and then we we actually found a spot under where there was some cover. So, you know, I I really thought that the Jet fan was pretty was pretty fired up today. Um, again about the game. Yeah. I mean, a kickoff to the house, a punt return. How often do you see that? And more specifically, how often do you see on on, you know, that sequence where it’s like boom, boom. I mean, you know, boom, three and out, boom. It just it was pretty wild there. So, I think that, you know, all the Jet fans that I came across in the Corona Club, you know, a lot of people came up to me and wanted to ask get my thoughts on the trade or talk about, you know, stuff that we say on the fan. And you know, I I didn’t really meet many many Jet fans who were downtrodden, who were, you know, just um very disenchanted with the trades, which was a great week. I think it was an absolutely fantastic week for Muji. I I loved it. You know, I I think when you when you talk about building things out, listen, guys, we all have this belief that all right, like all these bad seasons that we’ve had for the Jets that we’re going to, you know, get the first overall pick, whenever whatever year that might be, and we’re going to draft our can’tmiss franchise quarterback who’s going to lead us to these incredible heights and, you know, by year two or year three, you know, 13 and four, 14 and three, AFC Championship. ship like it’s going to be this linear path. I I just I think that, you know, it’s more important and I haven’t always thought this. I’ve told you guys about this, but I think it’s very important with this with this regime, with Aaron Glenn to to to crank out some wins and reinforce the messaging and deal with the draft when you get there. Because the sheer reality of it is what what’s happened with these trades. The Jets the Jets have become power brokers in the NFL in the most unconventional sense. Like you think about about power brokers, you think about the teams that are that are loaded that had their quarterback and have, you know, great financial solveny with their cap and they’ve got the GM and the coach. And yeah, that’s true. That’s that’s that’s the obvious way. But I think I mean I know that when you look at any business transaction that’s going to transpire moving forward around the NFL and I mean big trades whatever it might be things we aren’t even thinking about right now. The Jets will be in every meaningful conversation because they’ve got the draft capital to do it. So the 2026 draft all right there’s two first round picks. 2027 there’s three first round picks. There’s a bunch of second round picks. So So I get it. Especially coming off the game that Mendoza had yesterday against Penn State. That last drive, my he’s the guy. There’s no doubt he’s the first overall pick for me. Not even close. Now, everybody’s starting to jump on the Mendoza bandwagon. I told you and I said it on the fan probably going back about six or seven weeks ago whenever the whenever the Indiana Oregon game was in Oregon and it was Dante Moore against Mendoza. That was really where I first jumped into, all right, let me with my own eyes and my own football instincts, let me not just read stuff. This guy thinks this guy’s going to go here and this guy likes that guy and this guy’s not sure about that guy because the draft is it’s really just a bunch of nonsense. I mean, between now and the draft, there’s a quarterback that is very highly regarded now that’s going to drop. There’s a quarterback that’s kind of on the cusp, like maybe late first round, whatever, is going to shoot up. But I don’t I don’t think that there’s any doubt that it’s going to be Mendoza. So I get it if I I I’m not saying I don’t understand it where you’re you’re a little conflicted with a win here, but I don’t I don’t think that you should be. I think that if this was like year two of Adam Gase, if this is, you know, last year with Robert Salah, if this is Rich Kotite in 96 when they went 1 and5 which was preceded by a three and 13 season, I I I think that there’s certainly times where you’ve got to root for losses because you want somebody fired or or there’s just a can’t miss. And and as much as I love Mendoza, I’m going to stop short of saying that he’s can’t miss, though I I love the kid. I mean, those throws and the the the he’s 6’5, 225, 230, big, big arm, quick feet, moxy. Like, he does strike me as the real deal, but it’s, you know, he’s not Andrew Luck. He’s not Payton Manning. He’s not one of those automatic transcendent, no doubt about it. You know, John Elway, one of those guys, not uh he could turn into one of those players, but I think coming into the into the season, he certainly was not perceive was still Arch Manning. I mean, it was still it was still all the Arch Manning buzz. Uh, and and even though I I’m it’s it’s a lock. He’s going first. There will be some some dissenters because that’s just the name of the game. So, I I do I I get it. I really do. But I’m I’m excited about the win. You know, I I just think that there’s a point where you you have to understand what’s more important. And there’s nothing more important than coming into work with a belief that that things are right, that things are are stabilized, that things are moving in the right direction. And you do that really by by getting a win, you know, I mean there anything that you I’ll give you I’ll give you an analogy here, right? You know, I love my golf analogy. So, let’s say, you know, you’re taking all these lessons and you’re on the cusp of breaking a hundred and, you know, you you get to the final two holes and, you know, like I used to do. All right, I got a 40 48 on the front and you know, all right, if I bogey 17 and if I par 18 or vice versa, that’s going to be a 99. And then, of course, what happens is I get a snowman, I get a 103 and I don’t do it. But the the point is until you cross the threshold of feeling what it’s like to shoot a 99 or whatever your line of demarcation might be to break 90, to break 80, to go par, to be scratched, whatever it is, until you do it, you know, no amount of lessons, no conversations, no YouTube self-help videos is going to get you across the finish line. What’s going to get you there hopefully and eventually is that the young players now start to come to work with a conviction that what their coach has been espousing from the moment he he was hired you know we’re built for this [ __ ] you know what Aaron what what Aaron was saying it’s going to start to resonate more and the words are going to be much more impactful it’s no longer a theory it’s no longer like well if you do this and this and this and this this will happen. Yeah, that might be true, but once you actually feel it happen, it’s a it’s just different. It’s a different belief. It’s a different energy. It’s a different foundation. And too often these Jet foundations have been incredibly flimsy. So, I’m definitely fired up. By the way, I thought the Jets did a great job. As you can see right behind me, um they handed out these t-shirts to everybody as you walked in and they did a great tribute for Nick. It was it was actually really touching. Um, I put a nice nice picture on Twitter. They had um like they unfurled in the one of the end zones this massive and and it kind of it basically looked like that although I think it was green and it was the size of the entire section. It was really classy. It was really well done. It had a great tribute to Britishaw Ferguson spoke. He took the microphone um he was classy and it was it was touching. And it’s funny, too, and my wife even said this because the the way I got the seats, it doesn’t matter, but I got four in 216 in row nine and I got two in 216 in row two. So, my son and I sat down there and my wife and my daughter, my my father and mother-in-law sat whatever it was, seven rows behind us. So when we met in the Corona Club at halftime, she said, “Did you notice that as soon as they started to tribute Nick Mangle, the sun actually started to pierce through a little bit and and she was right. I felt it. You know, I believe in that stuff. It was it was a nice moment. It was poignant. It was powerful.” And, you know, then you saw his wife and his kids go on the field and it was just, you know, it was it was a reminder of the heartbreak that um that we all felt for for Nick. And I I did a tribute one of the uh one of the previous pots. If you guys want to check it out, obviously you can download it. If you want to watch the video, you could do that as well. But it’s just, you know, and the thing that strikes me about the the every picture of Nick, like it’s just such a perfect encapsulation of his spirit, you know, always had the backwards hat, always had the locks flowing, always had the goatee, always had a smile, always had the shades. Really, really awesome. So, I thought the Jets did a great job on that, you know, and I got to tell you this, too. I always complain about Metife and I drive through past Route three all the time or on Route Three and past the stadium all the time. And I I can’t stand the stage. Like, it’s just a piece of [ __ ] You you guys know this from the outside. It’s absolutely gross. You know, the big air conditioner, you know, a set of braces. I mean, whatever you want to call it. Uh it’s it’s an eyesore, right? But I will say on a and I’ve always felt this way having gone to a bunch of night games over the years when it’s you know especially as it gets to like you know 3 and 4:00 now that the sun’s going down earlier or if it’s a 425 game or 4:05 or a night game when they do fire up the green and again there was a lot of empty seats today based on the weather and based on on the record I get that and the opponent but when when it’s lit excuse me when it’s lit up and it’s green it’s actually pretty good like to me inside I I think the the actual ambiance of the game, the music, and I I think that they like the in-game experience is not bad. I think when we [ __ ] on the stadium, it’s always about the aesthetics of the outside of it, but inside, you know, in and out, bathrooms everywhere, no real lines. Um, you know, seats are comfortable. You know, you got plenty of leg room. We had a great seating at 216 right around the 40. Uh, it was it was really cool. The one thing too, and I hadn’t been hit with this in a while, uh because you know, and this is going to sound like I’m not trying to sound like that guy, but you know, usually when I go to a game, I’ll get like a a parking pass or, you know, just whatever, just make it easier and stuff. And I didn’t get that today. I didn’t I didn’t have access to that. So, I park regularly like I used to do a million times when I had season tickets and used to go to games all the time before I got married, before I had kids. And I so I really didn’t know how much the parking was. I I I really didn’t know. I pull up, the woman goes, “A hundred bucks. A hundred [ __ ] dollars to park in Metife.” And what a sweetheart she was. Awesome. This woman was great. Like she almost felt guilty asking for the money. And she even said she’s like, “Now I I want to double check this. She works there, so I’m sure that she knows. But how about this? She said the Giants charge 60. So I don’t know if anybody in the comments could can can confirm that or validate that. So let me get this straight. The Giants who have given their fans so much more than this team has given us with four Lombardis and me not in my lifetime. They charge people $60 to park and the Jets have the balls to to charge you a hundred. Like I texted S. I’m like and I’m not cheap. I am not cheap at all. I’ve never had an issue going into my pocket. You know, I I understood today was going to be about a thousand dollar day. If I couldn’t swing it, I wouldn’t do it. You know, there were times when I was younger where I I couldn’t do that. Luckily, now I could. Um yeah, I couldn’t do that every week. I wouldn’t do that every week because it’s also a different experience. Like I I’m I’m at the game and I’ve got to go back and watch the game because I feel like I didn’t see so much of the game. You know, it it’s it is cool to be there, but you just miss things like who missed the blockings. I can’t see. I mean, you can barely make out the numbers, you know. So, some of the penalties, you know, flags come out. I’m like, ah, was was that really a penalty? You just And they they give you reviews in in in the um in the stadium, but I like to hit rewind and stop and go slow-mo. So, it’s an experience for me that I just don’t love. I really don’t. Uh, but I do think it’s important to feel it once at least once a year. As I said, you got to go out there, you got to be amongst your fans, man. You got to know what people are saying. You got to know what people are thinking. You got to know what people are what they want, you know. Uh and and it it’s to reiterate, I thought there was a lot of a lot of hope today. Like I I God, I’ve been there so often where there was just despondency that just overrode the place like apathy, despondency, like anger’s it not even on the table because nobody really cares. there were the people that were there, especially when it started raining, you know, when the Jets did something well, you felt it like the Jet fans wanted a win today and I just, you know, I I don’t get it pertaining to this situation. How are you sitting there rooting for a loss? I mean, well, I mean, I do because it goes back to what I said about about the quarterback, but, you know, that’s that’s being of the mindset that it’s going to work out, you know, perfectly, the perfect alignment for the Jets with the first overall pick. you know, they take the guy, he’s the stud, he’s the eventual Super Bowl champion. Does anybody really think it’s going to go that way for the Jets? Do you? I mean, let’s face it, whenever the Jets stumbled upon whatever is their like this regime’s level of success, you know, it’s it’s probably going to be a little serendipitous. You got to get a little lucky. You got to get a little lucky. You got to be able to read draft boards. You got to have instinct. Well, honestly, like the Giants, I know heartbreaking for the Giants, God. And it looks like uh Dark got a concussion that sucks. But the Giants like they were that was the way they read their and you know Shane and Dable are on borrow time obviously, but the way they they read that they you know, you got to get a little lucky because somebody can jump up and snag Dart before you. You know, you heard Dable wanted to take Dart at three. They didn’t. They roll the dice, they get Carter, then they, you know, they they make a move and they get their quarterback. So, and you look around the NFL and and a lot of those situations are kind of like that. They really are. I mean, the easiest one is is Tom Brady, who obviously almost didn’t even get drafted. You know, Dan Marino never won the Super Bowl, but he was had the Dolphins in the Knicks just about every every year for a decade or so when he was in the 20s. Mahomes didn’t go first or second or third or fifth overall. So, you you you just don’t know. You know, I I know the version of Russell Wilson now is not a version anybody wants to watch play football, but Russell Wilson was a fourth round pick. Joe Montana was a fourth round pick. Now, there’s examples. Obviously, if Andrew Luck would have stayed around and didn’t retire early, uh what do you have 11 I think he had 11 wins in a row. He had 33 wins over three years uh at at one juncture before the injuries really piled up. and and he was probably on that more conventional get drafted first overall, go to a franchise and eventually get them to and maybe win a Super Bowl. And of course, Payton did that. But I I just long gave up a long ago gave up on this thought that, you know, you you you got to root for losses, you know, not not with not with these guys. I believe in Aaron Glenn. I believe in him. Not full throttle, not full boore. I mean, it’s it’s it’s reckless and it’s it’s stupid to do that. like why would I do that? There’s there’s not enough evidence. But I’ll tell you, there’s more and more and more and more evidence from the general manager and he hired Aaron Glenn, you know, and not just the trades for sauce getting rid of him and Q, but also some lower level things. The Jets have a punter who’s phenomenal. I mean, he he’s going to be around for a long time. Uh we talked about this on the last podcast, a lower level trade with with with getting Brownley. That was an astute move where I think he fleeced the Titans. uh Stevens, I think it was Stevens who had that early PI on third down, but about 35 yard penalty, I think. And that’s what I’m I’m like, was that even a penalty? So, I got to go back and watch it. But, you know, he played awful the first couple of weeks that he’s played very well. Uh so, I think that there’s there’s some evidence here that these guys are are at least pushing this willingness in a in a direction that is going to bear some fruit. So, what I think what I think is going to happen is this. All right. I think now I was hoping to I was open to trading Bree before the deadline. All right. I was a matter of fact, I thought they were. I was open to trading him over the summer. Now, but you still have to you still have to keep a standard if you’re going to be a a general manager that likes to make a lot of trades. And the early report is Muji’s definitely that kind of guy. So, you can’t just make a trade. Like, you can’t say, “Well, we’re probably not going to resign Bree Hall, and this team only wants to give us a fourth, but in our minds, he’s worth a third. So, eh, you know, we probably won’t resign him. [ __ ] it. Let’s just do it for a fourth.” And and let’s let’s send the message that we’re a little flimsy when it come when it when it comes time to do business. I think that that’s I think that that’s weak. I think you’ve got to hold that line. So, you know, right, wrong, or indifferent, and I believe it’s more right than wrong. They held that line. They didn’t get what they wanted, a third round pick and they keep one of their best players. And because of all the money that they got rid of with Sauce and Q and, you know, even you could do some things with Justin Fields if you want to move on from him. There’ll be some dead money for sure. I don’t want to really get into that now. Uh, but in 2027, the Jets have, I want to say, $217 million of free agency. And right now, and I’d have to double check my notes. I would check them now, but I spilled water on them before I before I opened up the pod. Um I think they’re right around 115 or 120 and that’s top three, top four in the NFL. And the cap’s going to go up. So they are they are flush with cap with cap space and really for the first time in a while now. I know that Justin Fields was running around a I’m still wet guy uh from the uh from the uh from the weather a little bit. I know Justin was running around a lot and he got hit a few times. I don’t know exactly how many sacks he was uh the Jets gave up. I know the Jets had six, but I think that’s more a product of him just not seeing things downfield and kind of holding on to the ball. We’ve talked about this before. I I think what’s really really encouraging about this, and this is the way that I choose to look at it, is that the Jets on the left side, they’ve got a stud, and on the right side, they’ve got a stud. And I believe in the middle and center, they’ve got a stud at the minimum. And even, you know, Simpson’s pretty good. Like they’ve got at the bare minimum being conservative 60% of an offensive line and they’re young. They and they’re on their first contracts. So when you have that now, you’ve got the ability to build from the in out and that’s always the smart way to go. It seems like so many years, you know, and the Giants have done this a little bit with some of the receivers, you know, that whether and I love neighbors, but you can also make the case that maybe they didn’t need neighbors when they took him, even though he’s a stud, but too often I think fans and and and I’ve been guilty of this, so I’m not just saying it’s it’s you guys, but you definitely do this as well, where you you you make a correlation like a splash draft pick helping to elevate the franchise, like, oh, go get that stud receiver and suddenly the offense is going to be phenomenal. It doesn’t work that way. The offense will continue to be like, you know, just really nothing if you don’t have an offensive line. So, they do have that. And I do think now I think they’re going to resign Breeze Hall. I think it’s you could tender him and I think it would be about 11 or 12 million and you could afford you can justify that now based on the resetting of the finances. So, now you’re starting to see the wheels come in motion. And even something else that that I thought was small because he hasn’t played particularly well this year. It’s not like you benched, you know, one of their, you bench Garrett Wilson or say if Gardner was here, you bench Sauce. But Aaron Glenn benched Quincy Williams. So he trades his brother and then he benches Quincy. And I thought Quincy’s response was very telling of of how this team is beginning to respect and understand what Aaron Glenn wants. Because if you listen to what what Quincy said now, he said, “I’m not happy about it,” which I respect. You shouldn’t be happy about it. If you’re happy about being told to sit down, then you just you’re the wrong guy for the job. Then then it’s then it’s hopeless. Like, you’ve got to push back. But he pushed back in a respectful team first way. He’s like, I look forward to getting my job back. Like, and even said, I haven’t been playing well enough. And I he made a really nice player at one point today. And you know, I don’t know. Well, it doesn’t mean that Quincy Williams is going to be around for 5 years, they very well might move on from him. But what that means is there’s an expectation and if you’re not doing your job and he has not played well since the start of camp. All right. So Aaron Glenn was disappointed in that and now it’s it’s a reshifting of of of expectations. You know, first I’m going to tell you what I expect, you know, when you come into the building for the first time. And if you don’t do it enough, and I’m gonna give you a little time to get it right, but if if there’s no traction and no progress, well, now your ass is on the bench. And I absolutely love it. I love it. So, I want to look at some of these comments. I guarantee some of you guys are unhappy. Uh, need the quarterback, wide receiver, two, and tight end two on offense. Yeah, RB, that’s definitely something that you need. Quarterback, that’s a given. Wide receiver two, that’s a given. Although, they made some trades. We’ll see. Um, and and tight end, too. Yeah, I think that that’s fair. Uh, what else here? You would you you would resign Quincy? I I don’t know about that. Um, let’s see. Aaron Glenn’s not man enough to admit he made a mistake with Fields. Um, despite his false macho bravado. All right, that is from Jer Jamaiah Jrius, I believe, is the name. All right. Well, let me ask you, you know what? What false bravado he talked about when he goes back and forth with the media? Because I don’t really have an issue with it. Let me tell you something. He doesn’t owe us anything. He I was saying this on the fan the other day. I’m like, it doesn’t matter what I think and talking to. It doesn’t matter what you think, S. Doesn’t matter what Hop thinks, our producer. Doesn’t matter what the callers think. Doesn’t matter what Seamini or Kazaro or Costello or Hughes. Doesn’t matter what anybody thinks. It’s what he thinks and it’s what the locker room more importantly thinks. And you guys need to understand this. Now, I will grant you this. Does it come across as a little petty? Yeah, it does. Like, just divulge the quarterback. I mean, what’s with the state secrets here? That’s that’s to me the very short-sighted way of looking at it. With all due respect, I think the better way to look at it is he is creating um like um he he like a a like a force field if you will around his franchise so that when they are good and it is a more meaningful question because it doesn’t really matter if it’s Justin Fields or Tyrod Taylor nobody cares even though you’ve got to ask the question and those men and women are doing their job and I I respect all of them right but I also respect Aaron Glenn not acquiescing You know, I’m not going to tell you. I’m going to tell. You’ll find out when you find out. My team knows what they need to know. You know, I mean, we’re practicing. Whomever’s starting is getting more reps and whoever’s not is getting less. And when we come out of the tunnel on Sunday, we’ll have a quarterback. End the story. I don’t see what the [ __ ] problem is. I I really don’t. Like, it’s it’s a big deal made out of nothing. And I don’t get it. Like it’s almost as if it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s and I do get the pursuit of answers. I do. So this is not me at all imputing the integrity or the pursuit of answers by men and women paid to get answers for their for their livelihood. That’s a different like I separate the two. I respect what they’re doing, but I also respect what Glenn’s doing because I get it and I think more of you need to understand it. Like, think about this. Let’s just say in in three years, two years, hopefully it’s not three. Let’s say not next year, let’s say in 2027, the Jets are seven and four at some point, right? Eight and four, you know, six and three right there. Who knows what the Bills or the division looks like, the Pats, whatever. By the way, the Bills today. Wow, that was a stunner. They were shut out for most of that game. That was in That was I bet you a lot of people lost money on that. At least taking the Bills on the money line to to wrap up a parlay. God. Anyway, let’s just fast forward to 2027. And there’s a bigger issue that actually does matter. And the media comes calling. So, coach, what are you going to do about this? What are you? Well, he has now already disarmed everybody because in year one, he’s already established this culture. I’m not telling you. So, you can ask and you can waste time and we could probably talk about stuff that’s more important than this because we’re going to go in circles. If you want to go in circles and write the same story, that’s on you. But we’re moving on. My team knows what they have to do and that’s all that matters to me. So, I don’t have an issue with that at all. I don’t, you know, would it be better if it was a little less antagonistic and the Jets had a couple of more wins? Of course. I mean, sure. I mean, anytime it’s harmonious and the team’s winning, of course, that’s the better option, but I see what he’s doing. And guys, you got to understand this is not like Aaron Boone trying to get the Yankees one more level up to finally crack through for, you know, a championship for the first time since 2009. This is not Andy Reed playing games with the Kansas City media to try to get his 9,000th Super Bowl. This is a man who know unlike Salah and unlike Gase and unlike BS and unlike everybody that’s coached this team except Parcels because he was with the Giants and he got New York media. All right. He understands just how arduous a task this is. He knows just how easily this franchise gets swallowed up by all the regurgitation of stories that haunted previous teams and previous, you know, decades and previous generations of fans. And what he’s trying to do is take all that and package it up and throw it the [ __ ] out the window. That’s what he’s trying to do. All right. So, would you rather Robert Robert Sava be up there and like, you know, playing Mr. nice guy. And you know, when Zach Wilson can’t read a damn thing in front of him, not hold his young quarterback accountable or on Hard Knocks, you know, whipping out some stupid corny poems about the Sparrow and the I don’t know, the Hulk or the Crow or whatever that stupid [ __ ] was. Is that what you really want? What I want is a leader of men. That’s what I want. And that’s what that’s what you need. that is non-negotiable with this situation. I think really just about in every situation but all the things that you have to overcome that is that is without compromise and he is presenting himself number one and this is the other reason why I don’t really have an issue with it at all. I don’t think that he’s being inauthentic. Like if if Aaron Glenn was being fake, I’d be like, “Ah, come on, man. What are you doing? What what’s with the act here?” You know, this this doesn’t this doesn’t seem to be you. I just think that Aaron Glenn is a nononsense old school Red X, you know? And what did he say the other day in the locker room? Like, and I think he said, “Who wants to fly?” He put his arms out. He said something like, “Who wants to fly with those [ __ ] jets?” You don’t think that that locker room loved that? They loved it. And I guarantee that they did the same thing today. I just haven’t had it. Excuse me. I haven’t had a chance to watch it because I’m I’m doing this and I just got back from the game. So, I I do think there will be more missteps the rest of the way. The missteps may be perceived by some, not me. There will be more. Now, that doesn’t mean that if he if he does do something that I take issue with, I’ll say it. But I think that this is what he’s going to do for as long as he’s here. And when they’re playing the the the Bills on a Monday night and 20 or Sunday night football in 2027 with some young stud quarterback and the national media comes hunting for answers or they’re trying to pick and prod and dig and oh, there’s a little tiny controversy with so and so who wants an extension or who was benched or whatever the situation might be. Guess what Aaron Glenn does? He does what he’s been doing now with the quarterback stuff. Yep. That’s That’s for my team. Yep. I got it. I appreciate you asking that. That’s I’m not going to tell you because I don’t have to tell you. So, I you know, I was a little surprised he took that route early. Um I have grown to appreciate it. I really have. All right. What else here? Let’s see. Um okay, let’s see. You’re telling a fictional tale. It’s a nice story, but there’s not much to back it up. That is from username 14 years. What do you mean? What’s fictional about what I just said? I just ran through the the, you know, early on the game, you know, how they won. They had no offense. They had a kickoff return. They had a punt return. They had six sacks. They won coming out of the buy and they won before the buy. I’m not making this up. I’m not sitting here saying I think the Jets are going to go on a five-game win streak. I don’t think there’s any chance in hell that happens. I think the Jets probably finished with four wins. They probably get two more the rest of the way. Maybe Miami, maybe one more. That’s it. But it’s got to start somewhere. That’s all I’m saying. I’m fictional. I I don’t I don’t know anything. Now, if you’re talking about the way I interp Excuse me, I interpret Aaron’s dealings with the media. Okay. Well, that’s your opinion. I got you. Uh, let’s see. Brady Cook, don’t stop. Uh, see, it’s I love doing these. I love doing these, but it’s hard because as I’m trying to read something as they come in, they just kind of Is there a way to freeze that? Let’s see. Yeah, I mean, this one’s pretty basic. Ricardo, it’s all about the play on the field more so than the hype speeches. Yeah, I get it. But, you know, the hype speeches, and I’m not a not a massive proponent of hype speeches. Sometimes I I think that they they have a time and a place if they’re if they’re real. Again, if they’re authentic, you know, they they’ve got to hit the mark here. You know, you can you and you know, somebody that, you know, kind of has that that gravitas and Aaron Glenn does. I mean, you know, the the one thing about these young kids, I think there’s a bit of a misconception. I think it’s unfair to the younger generation. I think a lot of people position like the younger athlete as clueless about the past or they don’t care about the past and they’re wrapped up in their world and social media is a big part of that and and that’s obviously problematic for some and I I wish it I wish that wasn’t as much a part of the world, forget about sports as it is. I think it’s incredibly dangerous, polarizing, uh divisive. I think there’s a lot more bad than good with social media. But I do think that these young players have they’ve already the moment that they found out they were playing for Aaron Glenn, they YouTubed them. They’re like, “Wow, this guy was a dog on the field.” Aaron Glenn was good. I mean, Aaron Glenn could play. Look at this 108 yard kickoff return against the Colts on the field goal. Look at Aaron Glenn picking off Dan Marino at the goal line down in Miami and going the basically 100 yards to the house touchdown. I mean, look at Aaron Glenn doing this. Look at Aaron Glenn doing that. Look at Aaron Glenn on some good teams being coached by Bill Parcels. Like they are not idiots despite some of you, you know, really not giving the younger, not all of you, some of you, the younger generation any sort of credit, you know. Um I I think that they know exactly who’s coaching them and that’s all that matters. It really does. So all this other stuff, we could dress up press conferences all we want, right? It matters the results and the results will be incremental this year. Dribbs and drabs. I mean, you just traded Williams, you just traded Gardner. And I love it. I have no problem with either. But, you know, even though Gardner didn’t make any plays, he he would blanket the opposing receiver. So, that’s going to be a problem the rest of the way. He just wouldn’t make picks, you know, and Quinnon never got to the quarterback anymore, but, you know, he’s rated a top three run defense, you know, against the run. So, and and he’s got you got double team which makes life easier for the others. So, of course, the Jets defense I think over time this year, you’ll see the other effects of of their absence, but I think bigger picture with the money and the cap space and all the things I hit. Uh I I think that uh I I think they’re in a good way in a in a way that is in a meaningful direction. I shouldn’t say a good way. Uh let’s see. A a big positive that goes understated is the penalties have gone way down compared to the Salah era. Yeah, it’s no longer a 10 flag minimum. That’s true. Uh they’ve been a lot less and that’s part of it. So, let me get this straight. There’s fewer penalties and that is very quantifiable. That is provable. Just go to NFL.com, look it up. The Jets aren’t where they were residing for years. fact uh today the special teams game which I really do believe is one of the fastest ways along with curtailing penalties to be to go from an eyesore to a competitive team that’s going to give you a chance to steal a couple of games despite having a dirt of talent like and then obvious if you don’t turn the ball over if you can get a little boost from from the either the kicking game but really the return game and the penalties are down you know you’re you’re going to be in in in a lot more games you’re just going to let’s see here. Yeah, less penalties means building your culture. I agree with that. Uh BT, you see Saw get jked out of his shoes in the fourth quarter on a two-point conversion. I saw it quickly on my phone. You know, I try not to be on my phone too much of the game. I got some texts. I got some tweets. Uh I can’t wait to see him when I get upstairs and I really dive into some other stuff, which I will. Yeah. I mean, his his falloff is very very strange. You know the thing about and he’s gone so I’m not going to spend a lot of time on this but the thing about Garter that was very interesting like when he first came in they allowed a rookie to use his hands and generally it’s the other way around like you don’t get the benefit of that you’ve got to prove that and once you do well all right now you’re an allp pro you’re three four five years in now they let you get away with some handsy stuff. It was the opposite. Like they came they he came into league they let him do whatever he wanted. They swaddled the the penalty flag and and and the whistle and then as he established himself, it actually went in a different direction. Very weird. And in the middle of the field, S Garner is not very good. Like by the boundaries, sidelines, he’s good, but when you get him in space, he’s just not the he’s not the player that we thought we had. So, I thought that they got out on the at the right time. Pass rush. Yep, agreed. Um, yeah, love the Nick Mangle t-shirt. Rest in peace, big man. No doubt. And again, they gave that to everybody. Um, I came home with six because it was my, you know, six of us went and, uh, they were all extra large, so they’re not going to fit anybody and my in-laws don’t want them because they’re not Jet fans. I’m going to make sure I get them in the hands of of some of my buddies who are real Jet fans. Uh, let’s see here. Anything else? Glad they got rid of Williams and Gardner. I mean, I’ll tell you, you know, it it I was stunned. I was not stunned by Q because once they traded Gardner, everything was on the table. I’m like, are they going to trade Germaine Johnson? Are they gonna trade Will McDonald? Are they going to trade Breeze? Like, I don’t know what was coming outside of the the young offensive lineman and Garrett Wilson. I I didn’t know what was going to happen. So, I wasn’t stunned. I was stunned by by Gardner, not not by Q. But my reaction and it came on our show and it was like 10 minutes before we we we got off the air. I was pumped when I found out which was pretty immediately what they got back. I don’t I don’t know how how you can’t love this. Like again the Jets are now power brokers guys. Like I know that the Jets spoke about Michael Parsons before he was dealt to Green Bay right all right for Quinnon draft capital Parsons would have came here. Now, let’s say the next superstar edge rusher or more importantly the next quarterback who right now we don’t even know is either disenchanted or ownership is ready to move on, you know, and I know that Joe Burrow’s name’s been thrown out there. All right. I mean, that seems that seems fairly implausible. Like if if you’re Cincinnati, why would you let him go? Well, you know, Boomer’s always talked about this. Their ownership is about as cheap as it gets. I mean, I don’t know. Maybe you start to get to another contract. That could be it. Maybe he’s tired of of being in a small city. You know, he seems like a bright lights guy. I don’t know. But if he does become truly available, who can come to the table with more than the Jets? Boom. They’ve got a need and they’ve got everything that you would possibly want from draft capital. So, that’s what I mean when the Jets have become power players. 2026 draft, 2027 draft, any unhappy superstar that is going to emerge. And in the NFL, it’s gotten more and more. See, that was always an NBA thing where guys would force their way out and you know, that’s how the power teams were built that, hey, I’m not resigning here, so you better get me out of Memphis or you better get me out of Vancouver back in the day or you better get me out of the Clippers because I’m gone. I ain’t staying here. when the Clippers were were awful, you know, with uh with Sterling and once they flexed in the NBA, they were I mean, teams always acquies, they were always dealt. Now, it’s not going to be like that with the NFL because the contracts aren’t all guaranteed and it’s just not quite that way, but more and more of theirs are shifting because more and more younger general managers are permeating and personnel people and executives are permeating the game and they are from the Madden philosophy. They are from fantasy football making trades and like they are that’s how their brains are wired. So they are more proactive and more amendable to those things which means that is very potentially a great thing for the Jets. Why not do a podcast giveaway? Yeah, I might. You know, maybe I will. You know what? I have to I’d have to figure out how to get that to to one of you. You know what? Yeah, I’m going to do that. I’m gonna do that. I’ve got a bunch of them. I’m gonna do that. Yep. I’m gonna do a podcast giveaway for that Nick Mangled shirt. Not that one because that’s mine, but one of the ones that I have here. Uh what else here? Do I think the Giants are going to fire Dable tomorrow? Who knows? I’ll get in that tomorrow with S. I mean, it looked like he was going to get fired after the um after the Broncos game. There was reports on that. They didn’t. Another miserable fourth quarter collapse. They suck. They’re going nowhere. I don’t think Dable’s going to be back next year. I wouldn’t bring back Joe Shane. I’ve said this a million times, sideways. Do they fire him tomorrow? I don’t know. I mean, does it really matter uh at this part at this point, but he’s not going to be back next year. Uh Ricardo, I want no part of Kyler Murray. I totally agree. Not interested. Too small. Too injury-prone. Not enough of a winner. Seems to be too much of a me guy. Not interested. Pass. That’s an old Jets move. Like that’s an old Jets move. By the way, I snapped these today. So, they’re both they’re they’re so short, these guys. This guy’s supposed to be to here and this guy’s supposed to be to here. So when I put them on, they are now very jagged and they are piercing my bald head. What’s my honest opinion on Justin Fields? Um he’s just not good. Can’t throw the football, man. He’s he’s too reluctant to let it go. Uh he’s too inaccurate when he does let it go. So he’s not the guy. That’s it. And I I would play him the rest of the way. I mean, unless he has, you know, a three, four, five pick game and, you know, you just want to go to Tyrod just to mix it up here, but no, he’s not going to be part of the puzzle. There’s no way. But I also don’t have an issue with the Jets trying to, you know, kickstart their their energy a bit with a with a young quarterback who’s a great athlete who’s in his mid20s on a good team friendly contract. I got it. Um, I just he’s just not gonna No, he’s not going to be around. Let’s see. Hall’s a beast. Yeah, he’s a beast. I like Bree Hall. I do the pass rush. That’s on sauce. Culture penalties. Uh, let’s see. Yeah, more on the penalties. Yeah, McDonald had a great game. Four sacks. Wow. Yep. I don’t know what this means. Big T looking like your cool English teacher that let you read banned books. All right. I don’t know. Uh I think that’s part compliment. Probably not good if you’re a student in my class. Yeah, I still don’t get that. I still again telling a fictional tale. I mean I I think what I’m spitting out here is just real gets. I mean I just I I don’t I don’t get it. What is not making sense here? So I am happy. I I am happy today. I walked in there. hadn’t been to a game this year. Um, I’m not gonna lie to you like last night because again because you know the family and you know it’s a lot of moving parts and I love my in-laws but it’s two more people and you know six people to a game is not easy. So, uh, last year I just took my son and it was simple. But I mean I’m really happy I did it. But I I remember like last night I’m like we were outside having a glass of wine by the fire fire pit w with them and I’m saying to myself, “Oh god, to myself, man, did I why did I commit to this?” But I committed to this because you got to get out there and you got to be amongst your fan base, man. You got to And how the hell am I going to do a podcast and just, you know, live in my WFAN hole or my my office my home office hole and not go to a game, you know? Go to games all the time. I mean there were nights I tell you going that is the one thing that I do miss. Not that I would want to do that now like at this age there’s no you couldn’t pay me to do this really but when we used to go we used to get there I feel like the gates used to open at eight maybe I’m misremembering that I’m going back to Kotite parcels into early uh let me see well yeah yeah yeah and then you have what’s his name for for one year and then he went to Virginia. Um, whatever the hell this name was, he was here for a year. So, it was an all day thing. And I when I’m walking out of the game, even with the raindrops, I’m looking around and I’m seeing some people and I get it. You know, you get there. I think these gates open at 9:00, but again, I thought the old Metallands was 8. Either way, we’d be there as soon as they were open. Bang. I mean, beer cracked, fire, fire going. I had this flag that I made I made out of like these this these white connecting like almost plastic pipes that I somehow, you know, I taped it. It wasn’t even perfectly done, but I would it it was probably 30 feet high. this white contraption with a Jets flag on it that I built that and it would take me about 20 minutes as soon as I got there and crack a beer and I’d go to work while everybody was working on the grill and I would dig a hole and I would plant our flag right there and then you know you’re firing the football around and then you know you’re walking you know this is this is young me walking into the stadium got you know hammering back that last beer before you get to the big uh recycle bins you fire that or that maybe you sneak one in back then. We did, you know, maybe sneak in a few actually, uh, pre 911. And then you get out and then you fire the grill back up. You watch the four o’clock games and you got the steaks going and you got the meatballs going and you got the bread going and you got the sausage and you know, you’re there until 7 or 8. I mean, it’s a 12 13 hour day and you know, the smell. That’s the other thing. Like even you just pull up. Doesn’t matter what the record is. You pull up and it it just feels right. It’s it’s good. It’s it’s wholesome. It’s it’s what’s right. And I just I just love the Jets fan base. I really do. You guys are awesome. There were probably I don’t know 20,000 empty seats. I don’t blame you. You know, sell the tickets, eat the tickets, sleep in, you know, order in, watch the game at home. I got you. I understand why you check out at this point. But it was fun to be back today. And it was fun to see a win. I’m pumped about the win. I do think that this is a building block. And again, you know, you you got to understand like yeah, it it hey, I mean, you take whatever you could get, but like say if they would have won in week four or week, let’s say they would have won the Tampa game, right? They held on and won that was that week three Tampa. Yeah. Say they would have won week three and then they would have won today. So they still have two wins, right? But to me, it’s a little different now. Even though if you win in week three, at least you feel as going into early October, you’re not out of it yet. you know, we win one more, we’re two and two, back to even footing, all the things that we do to convince ourselves that we have a chance to maybe get a wild card. So, I get that like in real time, it’s it’s more gratifying to win early. But big picture now and in real time, I think it’s better now because the you want to see progress as the year goes on. And I know the Browns aren’t good and I know the Bengals have a world of issues, but to me it’s it’s really really it’s it’s impressive and it’s it’s enjoyable to win a game, go into the buy, come back, have buttoned up practices, be locked in, whatever they were doing on the practice field for special teams worked worked more than once and worked in a massive way that we might not see the rest of the way. I mean, not every team’s bringing one bringing a kickoff back to the house. Not every team, not every team’s going to bring a a punt return 80 yards to the house. That doesn’t happen for every team every year. So, they did that and now it’s two wins around the buy and now you just kind of keep that going a little bit and now it’s just, you know, just keep your head down, put the work in. you know, the stuff that’s not quite going to we’re not going to see it and it’s not going to really resonate with us tremendously here because it won’t associate itself with a lot of wins because they’re not there yet. But I’m happy. And if you’re not, that’s your problem. You know what I mean? That’s on you. I I think there’s just an expiration on on walking around and and and being miserable. Uh but but again also incorporating the circumstances of I really want Aaron Glenn to be the guy. Now you always want every I’m going to wrap it up on this. You want every Jets coach to be the guy because you just want the Jets to be good. That goes without saying. Everybody that’s hired, come on, buddy. Be the savior. Please, let’s go. You know, I’m rooting for you. I’m pulling for you. Aaron’s different. He’s one of us. He’s a jet. And for some people that doesn’t matter, you know, but having sat in that stadium as I just described, you know, during his entire career basically and and seeing teams that I loved, you know, those Parcels Vinnie teams, you know, Curtis, Prebette, Keshan, Mai, I mean, terrific offensive line was awesome. I mean, those are those are teams that I really, really, really loved. And Aaron Glenn was a guy that I always liked here. So, I am rooting for him more. I’ I’ve got more con more more of a connection to Aaron Glenn than I do Mike Brown as I’m a big Knicks fan. Many of you know that, right? I think Mike was an okay hire. Um I think it was time to move on from Tom Fibido. And I want Mike to be the right We’ll see if he is. I mean, I don’t think he’s a Hall of Famer, but I think he’s certainly competent. And I think he’s going to approach this differently with the minutes and the bench and the offense and the flow, whatever. And we’ll see if it if it pays dividends. But while I want Mike to do well because he’s the coach of my team, I have no intimate connection to Mike Brown. I just know him as a as at this point a bit of a transient, you know, NBA figure who’s bounced around who’s who’s won some championships as as an assistant, won a couple of coach of the years. I respect his resume and that’s where it that’s where it ends and he happens to be my coach now and we’ll see for how long, you know, but it’s different. Same like when Joe Tory, even though Joe was a Met and not a Yankee, Joe’s from Brooklyn, same neighborhood as me. Matter of fact, I played on the same baseball team that Joe played on growing up, the Brooklyn Cadets, Marine Park. So, yeah. I mean, I wanted the Yankees to win because that’s my team. But Joe’s Brooklyn guy. I used to go and take batting practice at Joe Tory Field uh on Avenue U by Kings Plaza. Yeah. One-on-one. Me and my buddy Jimmy, we would just throw heat to each other and try, you know, it was a smaller field, but we were we were throwing gas. we were older and we were just rocking them out and hitting line drives and playing games and that was Joe Tori’s field. Joe’s one of one of us. So Aaron Glenn is one of us. He gets it and he could have taken other jobs. Instead, he took a [ __ ] job with [ __ ] ownership with with a quarterback situation that’s in complete flux. It would that was in complete disarray. Not a like, do you keep Rogers? Do you get rid of him? If you keep him, he’s going to be 40. If you keep him, he might take over the locker room. If you keep him, he might get hurt again. If you keep him, he might be washed, which he’s not. But, you know, that that was a that was a tough evaluation process. Then what do you do? All right. You go field. So, he knew all this coming in. Eyes wide open. Knows the media, knows the terrain, knows the fan base, gets it, knows ownership, knows all the pitfalls. And this guy to me more and more is starting to present himself as a as a lead man now. Not in a very congenial way. And that’s fine because tough love is required, my friends. Tough love is required. You know, if your kid’s not doing something, are you going to beg them nine times or are you going to eventually say, you know, I’m not even going to, you know, I won’t even give you my dad voice when when when I But as you can imagine, you know, when it has to, it’s got some authority behind it. There’s just a point where I’m not I’m not wast I don’t want to hear it. I’m not messing around. do it. Just do it. Whether it’s school, whether it’s sports, whether it’s cleaning up, don’t want to hear it. Get it done. Or you’re not going to your game or you’re not going out or you’re not playing games on the iPad with your buddies. Get it done. Now, I won’t say it like that the first time, but if there’s any resistance and and again, that’s that’s how you have to parent, you know, because if you let kids run wild, they’re going to run wild. And you let a franch if you let a franchise that has been stuck at sea without a motor, without any paddles, you know, just bumping from wave to wave. Lost at sea. Lost. No side of the coast guard really. No water, no rack, no food. Like you’ve got to fight your way out of that situation. And this is the style that he has decided to embrace. and I got his back with it. Let’s go. Second win in a row again. I still only think they get bored, you know, but it’s it’s deeper than that as I’ve said many times already today. So, have an awesome rest of your Sunday. I will let you know on social media how I’m going to do one of these giveaways here for for our guy Nick. Um, it’s pretty easy. I just want to try to do something creative, something fun. I gota I got to think about that when I’m off air and I’ll do that within the next couple days. So, one of you guys will get that. Um, I would sign it for you, but I don’t I I don’t I don’t know that you would want my signature next to Nick. I I want that to stand alone. So, maybe I’ll throw something else in there for you. But, uh, I’ll see you tomorrow. Ted on the fan, obviously. Let everybody know. I appreciate this guys. Apple, Spotify, download it all. Uh, got friends across the country, Jet fans across the world. Let them know about this. Unkillable, you know, trying to rise from the ashes. That’s the essence of this. No matter how many times they hit us over the head, we regenerate. We watch. We keep coming back for more. We keep walking to the end of the plank, you know, looking down at those sharkinfested waters. But you know what? The more you win, the fewer sharks. The more you stabilize this, the clouds start to dissipate. Eventually, the sun comes out. And it’s it’s little humble baby steps like this. I I think and I I certainly hope that we will look back on in years and say, “Yeah, remember when Aaron just started to kind of just to start to get things together a little bit? Remember when Muji made that massive trade that reshaped the franchise, the direction?” You got to start somewhere and I’m hoping this is it. So, enjoy the rest of your Sunday, guys. Tomorrow on the fan and I will get you during the week on the pod. Take us out, Nick. I’ll see you guys soon.

BT Reacts to the Jets Vs. Browns after going to the game at MetLife! He talks Justin Fields, Breece Hall’s Play & Aaron Glenn’s attitude towards the media.
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