LIVE Garden Report: Celtics vs Sixers Postgame Show on CLNS Media

LIVE Garden Report: Celtics vs Sixers Postgame Show on CLNS Media

Always has to be a shot at somebody. I know they’re never clean. They have to run. That’s the only shot they have. They do it for 82 games. We’re about to find out. He already has shown what he’s capable of. Did surprise me. I thought we were going to hang in there. This makes me think that we do need to be humbled. I actually think you’re the only one who deserved that beat. Cut the music. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks, Omit. How we do? How we doing, boys? How are we doing after that? Better than the Celtics. Uh, we’re doing better than the Celtics. Okay. Yeah. So without hyper without hyperbole like the Houston game was bad. Losing to Utah at home was embarrassing. This is probably the most anger induced game I think of the season. This is the one where you can I like that take you can get mad at people, right? Yeah. Um that’s what we like here. This one was bad. Uh, this one was bad. Um, so yeah, worst loss of the season. It come guys, come on. I’m here. I was here for the win last time, too. Come on. Come on. You you you guys the the chat needs new Zanis material. You do. I’m gonna have to check the uh spreadsheet. Where you been, dude? Wow. He showed up for the wrong one. Wow. Um, yeah. So, there’s a lot to lot to unpack from this one. We’re going to get to all of it. Uh, we’re going to hear from Bobby and Noah who are in Philly. We’re going to hear from Joe and the gang and all of that stuff. Um, and all these good things. So, we’ll get that um soon. Uh, you know, but first we’ll dissect it. I do want to let everybody know uh real quick. Our uh show as always is brought to you by Prize Pix, number one daily fantasy sports app in all of North America. You see it right there. Download the Prize Pick app. Code CLNS gets you 50 in your lineups after you play your first $ five dollar lineup prize picks. It’s good to be right. There goes Jimmy’s half of Jimmy’s face. We don’t need it all. We’ll just Yeah, it’s cool. Yeah, that’s enough because I’m looking at stuff on my I’m looking at Twitter right now. So, I’m like kind of looking off screen. That’s enough. Also, um Omaha Omaha Stakes. Check that out, too. omahast.com. Terms do apply. Uh, use code Patriots at checkout. $35 off is 50% sitewide sale plus 20% off on some items plus $35 off when you use the code Patriots at checkout. It’s almost too good to be true. So, check that out. Uh, what was not too good to be true was tonight’s game. And let’s start at the finish. And there’s a lot to talk about there, but the very last play of the game, I if I say it, everyone will say I have an agenda, so you guys tell me what happened. Not the last play, the play that Philly took the lead on. Someone else do it because if it’s me, everyone’s going to get mad. No, John, please do it. Please. No. Because I feel I right now I feel like tonight is the one night where my own angst and anger I’m living vicariously through John Xanis tonight. I think John is the best representative of how I feel about this [ __ ] Well, listen. This is some [ __ ] But go ahead. Go ahead. Here, here’s the here’s the glass half full. Great defense by Jordan. Great. Three straight possessions by Jordan Walsh there on Maxi on that last one, right? Unfortunately, he didn’t have any help because they got the miss that they looked for, but Jaylen Brown, you need a box out. You need one box out. He was one box out. Yeah, it was it was worse than that of all people who ride a damn bike. I watched the playback friendly ghost started reaching for someone that wasn’t even there. Yeah, right. What’ you see on the third on the third watch, John? No, just just how how what the breakdown is. Sometimes people get caught just looking. But on that one, uh it was particularly bad. Brown went to double went to help on Maxi, which he didn’t need to do cuz Walsh had locked him down twice and he’s running away from him. Brown was on the on the you know on the opposite side. Maxi goes right. Brown starts to chase him and realize Walsh already did a good job pushing Maxi out away from the basket. There was no need for a double at all. None. Zero. It’s He didn’t cut back towards where Brown was in the low block at that point where he could come off his guy and and and and stop him, you know, stop the ball or stop him from getting to where he was going. He was heading in the other direction. Brown just floats around to the middle of the key and realizes, oh, there’s no defense to be played here. And the next thing he needed to do was rotate up to the shooter, which he didn’t do. And Pritchard had to fly off his guy to try to close out there because Brown left a wideopen shoot. The first egregious mistake was Brown left a wideopen shooter because he didn’t rotate over after the bad double on on Maxi. And so Pritchard flies out and Brown’s just watching everything. He’s in no man’s land. No man’s land. And then Ubé just slips right in for a rebound. It was a brutally bad awareness, effort, play late in a game when like you need maximum effort and focus. It was so odd. And I, you know, it was a really, really, really bad overall, you know, possession on multiple counts by one guy. And you had, it was working. Jimmy said it. Walsh didn’t just lock up Maxi there. Walsh was in the game for one reason and one reason only, and that was exactly that. The Sixers with Maxi, they’ve tried this hero ball thing late a bunch of times. It hasn’t gone well, but Walshie was all over him. Three straight position. Walshie, look at you. Well, that’s my guy. I’ve always been a Walsh. Yeah, you guys are like tight. We’re not talking, just to be sure, we’re not talking Kevin Walsh here, right? We’re talking Jordan Walsh. I I like Jordan more than Kevin. I’ll tell you that. But uh but but that is bringing back like flashback memories like wait a minute. So look that happens. I think that I one I think Brown I like I don’t want to make this all about Brown. I I’ve always Brown’s always an overhelper uh on the defense, you know? I mean dating all the way back to the Philly game where he helps off and allows that hard in the playoffs and the Harden three in the corner which was one of the more egregious ones ever. But like that was just silly and bad defense. just bad everything in that last play. Then the very last play, they’re fumbling, rumbling, stumbling, bumbling, and the ball goes into the back court and Walsh has to throw a grenade. Am I wrong? Or could the Celtics have called timeout? I think they had one left. Yeah. So, call the freaking time. You mean you mean White with the with the three-pointer? What? Yeah. Yeah. White with the heave. Derek White three extra seconds to to You had more time there. somewhat but that you need to call a timeout right there. Um yeah, I agree and it didn’t happen. I would agree. They didn’t have a they didn’t have a um like a backup plan for if something went wrong there. And then before that, what happened before that was the Simons situation, which is another thing we’re going to get into, which is a guy who scored the first 10 points of the quarter, assisted on the assisted on the next three with a terrific pass to Pritchard for a three-pointer there, and then drove drove the basket, got a shot up, just rimmed out. Garza comes up with the offensive rebound. He goes to the free throw line. Those free throws put the Celtics up nine. And out goes Simons. He literally was their entire offense to start that quarter. Out he goes. Boom. Philly just roars back. Takes a one-point lead. The score like eight straight. Like I’m not saying it was because Simons left the game, but there’s in my opinion, well, good things happen. No reason to pull him out of that situation. Shrod. I mean, he’s he’s instant offense. Even when he’s on a court, he’s on a little bit of hot streak. Yeah, he had that bad turnover. try to go behind the back. Maybe he’s trying to get a shot off, you know, heat check there. But what’s wrong? What’s wrong? What’s wrong? What’s wrong, people? Come on. Simon Sim was lucky that the Philly player wasn’t hustling to steal the pass to Sure. We’re not We’re not doing this tonight. We’re not doing this tonight. Anyway, I I tweeted it during the game. An Anthony Simons might as well be called what, Jimmy? I didn’t see your tweet. I’m just saying you and I are in in lock step on this one. We might as well just go ahead and call Anthony Simons what? Dennis Schroeder 2.0. This is what he is on this team. Yeah. Okay. Thank you for saying that. I thought about that. I thought about that last game. And even we’re even getting the Bobby bias. We’re even getting the Bobby B. Anti Schroeder and he did it again tonight. texting us anti nit nitpicking a few negatives that Simons might do out there and completely ignoring the fact that this guy’s probably your purest purest shooter on the team. Yeah. Not probably. I would say definitely. Yeah. Yeah. It says nothing bad about anybody else. The entire team went like one for like 40 in the first half and he’s like Simons, man. Second quarter’s been rough for him. Like are we kidding me? you know, get him out of there. Are we kidding me here, you know? Unreal. Unreal. Uh, so it was there was a lot of bad that went on there in that fourth quarter. And this what frustrates me about the Simon thing, I’m not going to make this my agenda. I I’ll concede the other day when Simons didn’t get back in the game when he played that six minutes in the second half, they were getting a lot out of Walsh and and Ugo that game. And so you want to say, “Hey, they rode the hot hand. It was working, so they stuck with it.” I can say it. Fine. I get it. I went on my little tirade. You don’t play this guy 2 minutes and a half. You don’t play like, you know, but I understand where it’s like, I like I like what I’m getting out of these guys, so I’m staying with it. What was it you didn’t like about what you were getting out of Simons in the fourth quarter there? What was it? I What was it? You had won that turnover. That was it. It’s exactly. I I’m just I’m I’m I I’m completely, you know, and you needed the you needed the scoring. I mean, they barely got over 100 points tonight. And you know, you got a guy that gets you guys. It’s not the players. God, my god, does everybody need [ __ ] explained. It’s the situation. He came in. Oh, people are saying it’s the player. Come on. No, I’m not comparing the players. It’s the situation. It’s a guy who’s mainly offensive, but everybody’s going to scapegoat and make and and turn and only focus on the negative things that they do. You know, it’s it’s weird. Anyway, so I don’t know where you guys want to go with it here. Those are the things that really stuck with me. I mean, offensively, they were putrid the entire half. You can throw the first half in the garbage there, but I mean, this is where the game was lost there in that fourth quarter. And I can you can question some of Joe’s decisions, and you can definitely question that late game execution. Well, I don’t think there’s any question about the late game execution. It sucked. It sucked on every level. the the decision making, the rotating, the execution, uh the approach, you know, c certainly some of the personnel. I think at a minimum, you have every reason to question. And again, this this game is yet another reminder that this team has an incredibly thin margin for error. They have to make the right decisions. They have to have the right guys in the right situation, and they have to execute. They don’t have the cushion that they’re used to having where they could screw one of those or two of those things up and still find a way to win or still find a way to get the job done. And even there at the very end, even when they fumble and bumble and stumble in their way, Kada literally has the layup. He literally has just throw down that alley. Throw down that oop right there or or just lay it up. Just lay it up. Stop. And he had time. That was the thing about Yeah. I mean, he panicked obviously. He thought he had less time than he did. Yeah, I think we all thought the point is less time, right? But but but I mean, am I am I making more out of this than it is? If that were Al Horford, he would have made the right decision and laid it up or Porzingis would have laid it up. No, I think those guys in that same situation they were I’m with you. And again, and that’s what I’m talking about. Little things. Yeah. Little things like those moments is when you realize how much of a downgrade this team has done by saving a couple hundred million dollars, which again, no shade in that, but this is the price that you paid for that. You’re going to have moments where the guys that you have on the floor are going to remind you why they weren’t playing a year ago. Yeah. And why they’re not considered among the best at their positions right now. Just seemed a little a lack lax laxical dasical off that inbounds there. you want a little bit more um intention, you know. You know, yeah, there’s no excuse to have that ball poked away. You know, Derek White’s looking for a foul there. And then he looks up at the shot clock as he goes to get the ball. Looks up at the at the time remaining in the game. Still turns around and hoist up a, you know, 40footer or whatever it was. He knew that he had he just looked up. He saw he had three seconds left. You know what, right? He did that though because he knew that I’m probably not gonna make this shot but let me get it up so that if I don’t we get a sec we get a chance at a second putback which is exactly what Derek quite actually all things considered in that situation probably did the smartest thing get it up with enough time so that someone can put it back in and that’s literally the only reason they had enough time is the only reason is because he completely missed the backboard in the rim. I mean it was basically a lob. I don’t think that was the intention. You think that was I think it was just to get get the shot off. I think it to get the shot off. Uh if I’m Derek situation three seconds, I catch turn around dribble dribble dribble. Try to put up you know a little bit closer. Yeah, it is what it is. It it was screwed up right before that and and we’ve you know that wasn’t why that play wasn’t why they lost the game. I think that they, you know, we’ve talked about some of the things that happened prior to that and, you know, I’m very interested to see what Missoula has to say after this one. Um, if he has talked already, he has talked uh the reports I’m getting from the locker room is he was very curt um and uh generally uh wouldn’t really give it up in terms of the stuff that we’re talking about here, but we will uh get that. It’s in it’s in Ahmed’s hands right now, which is the best hands for it to be in. Uh and he’ll turn it around. He’ll turn it around for us in a minute. He does. Um, Ahmed Ahmed out there to you in just a little bit and hear what Joe has to say uh and the rest of the gang as well. uh you know so that was the bad part you know and I guess you know I’m not going to I’m not into the sunny portion of things yet after a loss but it is impossible to uh ignore the Walshance right like this was we’ve gone from we’ve gone from three straight uh games where he just played in a rotation to starting in the second half to playing a career-high 29 minutes to closing out a game all in one shot. You know, like this was a huge uh leap forward for uh Jordan Walsh uh who I did anybody see this? Absolutely not. Did anybody see this a week ago? Anybody? I’m not here. And here’s what I’m telling you right now. I am But even even they had bailed. I’m not doing an apology, Kim. You know why? because everybody thought the same thing. Not washed, not not an NBA player, not in the rotation. Joe had buried him to start the year. Um he was he was awesome. Uh the defense was awesome and he’s less spazzy, you know, like he’s less flailing around, fouling, you know, overplaying. He just is locking it down right now. The energyy’s off the charts. You had, you know, what was it? Craig uh was it Monroe gets pissed off at him just because he’s like he throws a ball at him because he’s like you’re freaking annoying dude like you know like that’s what you want him to be. Uh and those possessions on Maxi who’s you know arguably the fastest guy in the NBA. Oh Drummond sorry I was Greg Monroe Drummond Man I know Gez I you know I always I would always juxtapose those two in my mind way back when they are kind of similar in a way. I don’t know. No, I just I know Drummond Drummond throws the ball at him, but um the uh brain cramp, but Maxi uh Maxi is about as difficult to stay in front of as anybody out there. And we’ve seen him like even the Celtics good defensive guards in the past like you know your whites, your you know, you know, whether it be Smart or Holiday or those guys, they can’t do it. Like they they they they can’t keep this guy. And he locked him up late in the game. That should have been the story of the game. like Jordan Walsh locked up Philly’s best player and the Celtics walked away with a win there. It ended up not being, but it’s impossible to not talk about it as like a major positive development on this team. And again for people like you and me Jimmy and you know Sherrod to an extent like who view this more as a developmental year. One of my laments with this year is um I’m I don’t know what there is to develop you know like right you want you want to see a little of any of these guys coming with you next year. Right. You were hoping Shyman would be a guy and right now it doesn’t look good. Walsh didn’t look good either. So, I wasn’t counting much on him. I was maybe hoping to see a little bit more of development from Kada, but that was the problem. It’s like, who are you developing exactly? The Walsh development is is interesting right now. Are you guys buying this? I’m I’m I want to rent it. I’m renting it right now with the intent to buy. I like that. I like that. I’ve never I’ve never gotten that answer before because here’s the thing. I mean, he’s doing what exactly he should be doing. you get an opportunity to play a couple minutes, you make two become four, four become seven, and now you’re a guy that they’re looking at to be in the rotation. And the thing that he’s doing that I love is the fact that it’s not like he’s taking he’s just out there running around doing a little this, little that. He’s taking on pretty much the toughest assignment defensively and he’s more than holding his own at that end of the floor. And you’re right. I mean, the story of this game had they won it would have been Jordan Walsh once again uh coming up big with his defense. Uh you know, just like in Orlando, he even if he even without the the big three ball that he knocked down, his defense was really good in that game. And so that’s kind of becoming the identity that he’s developing on on his own. But you know, there’s there I’m I haven’t seen enough to feel good enough to say, “Yep, this renting is a good one.” How about you, Jimmy? And by the way, I’m leaving this comment up here. This is not the craziest thing I’ve ever heard, nor would it surprise me right now because we’ve already seen May not sub in for Hower uh who started the year as a starter. And we’ve also seen uh May not now get bumped to start that second half in favor of Walsh. It’s not crazy to think Walsh takes that energy spot there um on on on the uh you know on the team that you’re you’re going to lose a little bit on the rebounding edge and you you really don’t love playing Jaylen at the four necessarily but this wouldn’t be stunning. You’re going to get a little bit smaller if that you were to go here. But that might be it. But are you buying the Walsh the Walsh Asance? So similar similar type of answer to Shrad. I won’t I love the rent answer by the way. I’m buying I’m buying this Walsh, meaning the defensive stopping type Walsh. Maybe it’s a knee, right? Defensively, right? This is the type of Walsh I’m buying. If it was the opposite tonight and he had like and he had like 20 points, I’m not buying that. I think, you know, guys can randomly get hot and can can, you know, hit 20 points and hit a few shots and that’s great. We’ll take it. But when I see him defend the way he’s defending, that’s something that he could theoretically do night in night out, right? I mean, if if if the technique is there, if the energ is there, if the if the desire is there to be that player, a lot of times there’s a lot to just effort when it comes to defense. And I think Walsh, he’s got a little swagger to him now. Feels like maybe he does belong out there. He’s not thinking as much. He’s not worried about getting benched if he does miss a shot because he’s not adding something of value otherwise. I think Missoula is probably, you know, ingrained in this guy’s head like, hey, you can contribute to this team on the defensive end offensively that will come. Or maybe it won’t. But regardless, if you can go out there and defend their best offensive player on few possessions here, I mean, why wouldn’t you why wouldn’t you consider starting him? Get him in these opposing, you know, scorers heads early on in this game. Frustrate them, be physical, get them out of rhythm. Um, if that’s the type of player Walsh can be, then I buy that aspect. I’m still not there that what he can do for you offensively. I still think there’s a big issue there. Um, but they can make do with it if he’s going to come in and put those defensive performances together. It just gets complicated when you’re screaming at the TV because you want Simons in the game or you want, you know, a player in there who can score, but defensively he’s really hanging hanging in there and keeping the Celtics in the game. you can see why you kind of have that, well, should they or shouldn’t they? And I think that’s why John’s maybe going back a little bit and looking at the last game where they went with Walsh and Ugo instead of Simons. Well, it’s because defensively that was what was working for Boston at that time. And then what do you take a hit for on the offensive side of things? Can Brown, White, and you know, either Pritchard or Simons kind of carry you offensively if you get a guy like Walsh in there or a guy like Kada in there who doesn’t really give you much on the offensive side. So, I guess I’m buying I guess I’m overall and I I kind of feel like a fraud because I sold I think on on Walsh the last game, but I kind of buy this type of performance. Well, you know what though, Jimmy? think uh for both of you guys like I think it goes in line with like what they’ve been pedaling to us all season which is it’s going to change right um and you know it’s not always going to be the same stuff and Joe you know he it was a little bit of gaslighting when he’s like I think that’s going to be one of our strengths I mean I don’t think switching guys in and out because you can’t quite figure out the right combination uh is there I I’m not let me say this real quick go ahead yeah 38 hate three-point attempts tonight. And this is after I think 31 the game before. They’re dropping their three-point attempts. So, it’s allowing guys like Walsh and guys like Ugo and guys like Kada and Minot, although he’s taking threes. It’s allowing those guys an opportunity to play and to show what they can do because it does feel like there is a little bit of a shift here in their strategy, at least offensively, where they don’t need Walsh to take eight threes a game in order for him to prove his worth. They just need him to clamp down on defense. And if they don’t take 53 threes a game, that’s fine. They’re trying to find other ways to play, you know, winning basketball. And I think that’s what you’re kind of seeing here over the last week or so. And maybe that is why you’re starting to say, “Oh, wait a second. Maybe these guys can play because the way the Celtics want them to play is different now.” And I’m surprised that Joe’s doing that because because Joe, you know, he has an idea of what he wants to do. And this is the first time really the last week or so where we’ve seen him actually coach to his personnel and not have his personnel contort to what he wants to do as a coach. Uh you’re playing Jordan, you’re playing Ugo, you’re playing guys who three-point shooting is just not what they do. But there are other things they can do to help you win and compete. And it seems like he’s being more comfortable, Joe, is in leaning into what these guys can do to help winning. Uh I and again completely different type of coach but but he is an example of what I’m talking about. Rick Carile, I’ve seen him coach teams that had lots of offensive players. So he leans into that. He’s had guys who can’t make shots. So they become real defensive-minded, grinded out type of teams. You need to play to your personnel uh if you want to be successful in this league. And I think Joe is is starting to I think better figure out what can what can we do well and how can I hide our weaknesses? Our weakness is we’re not a very good three-point shooting team now because our personnel. So what do we do? We have to grind it out. We have to muck up the game a bit. Yeah. U I I I’m with you guys. I I I I like the Rent comment. I’m not I want to believe because I want to see somebody step up into that role and like I was I was on board the May not train too because I like the energy that he was bringing. The problem is is when I step back and like, you know, actually am honest with myself, I keep coming to the same conclusion, which is none of these guys are can can shoot. Um, and I know that’s so sad. And and like it really is and and so and and that’s the thing is like you you’ll have a game where my auto hook up and threes be he’s coming around like no man like nobody fixes a shot in a game like it’s he’s the same guy. He’s going to he’s going to regress to the mean. Like this is the problem is and this is one of the problems with the team. There’s too many guys who do one thing but not the other thing. And and so that’s where you’re going to be stuck all year long. It just cracks me up that like people will bury Simons because he can’t play defense but like will like will will allow Walsh and May not to go out there and you know just be zeros on offense most nights. Uh you know it’s it’s important. I mean this was really they don’t have that many scoring outlets uh on this team and so it’s what do you need more right now? And I think Joe’s really conflicted. I don’t I I think he’s going to struggle here with this one because he wants his shooters out there, but he wants he wants last year’s team. He wants the guys he had before. I want Remember that team I had? Remember that team I had when there were nine guys? That team I had there were nine guys that could switch and defend and shoot. That was awesome. Yeah, that’s cool. You know, so each time you put somebody in, he’s like, “A [ __ ] get him out of there. He can’t do this.” Then he puts another guy in, he’s like, “A [ __ ] get him out of there. You can’t do that. So, now we need this thing. Ah. Ah, I forgot about the defense. Oh, damn it. Oh, man. Yeah. Looking down the bench. Ah, damn it. That’s Baylor. No. No. Never mind. Never mind. Stay where you are. Baylor. Yeah. Yuck. Baylor doesn’t do either thing. Yeah. Get him out of there. So that’s an easy call. It is bad. It is bad. Uh we we do have Joe Misula. We’re gonna hear from him. Uh just we are I’m curious how Joe played this one. I think this is a I think this is a I don’t want to be questioned by you Joe Mazula press conference. That’s how I see it going down. I do have to quickly before we get to Joe before we get to Joe quick shout out uh for our sponsor over here at the Garden Report and you know it, you see it on the screen. It is prize picks the number one daily fantasy sports app in all of North America. 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Just, you know, didn’t execute it on the previous play. You didn’t defend well for, you know, 20 seconds or so there. It’s a miss box that you know, Jaylen’s so good all game, but he lets that one go there. Like, what’s I mean, I think it was it was a it was a it was a tough miss. Um, you know, Edwards had been hot all night. Credit to him. He played well, but it was a tough miss that just didn’t bounce our way. You guys have been in a lot of clutch games this year. What’s the process of learning how to play together in the play with the new team? And how have you seen the progress of this team playing in those situations? Yeah, I mean it’s a it’s no different than the regular game uh the rest of the game, you know, your execution, whether it’s transition defense, whether it’s fouling, uh whether it’s executing on the offensive end, you know, all those things are the same. Comes down to uh who can make plays and you know, they made they made the last play and and we didn’t. And you guys only forced nine turnovers tonight. Was there something about your defense or their offense that affected the turnover? Yeah, I mean they did a good job keeping the ball in their ball handlers hands and um you know and their pick and roll spacing was good, but they they kept the ball in their their ball handlers hands and and they moved it well and and you’re right. Yeah, I mean it’s a credit to them. Yeah, they they played well offensively. I thought we played well too. We just didn’t come up with the, you know, enough plays down the stretch. What let you go with Jordan to start the second half? What do you think of the job you did on Maxi in general? Yeah. Yeah, he’s he’s been playing well. Uh he’s been playing well on both sides of the ball. Uh thought he did a great job uh on Maxi throughout the game. Thought he did a great job on him on the last possession. So uh just kind of wanted to keep that momentum and uh you know he’s just got to keep getting better. He said coming into the season that role player IQ was an area he felt like he made the most growth. How have you seen that manifest itself especially on the defensive end? Yeah, I mean he just hasn’t he’s learning the understanding of the identity, you know, just the the way he the effort that he plays with on the defensive end. uh the different ways that he could playmake on the offensive end, whether it’s uh screening, whether it’s offensive rebounding, knocking down open shots, which he’s done. So, uh he’s just getting better and better. He’s got to keep it up. Joe, you guys have had a lot of these clutch time games go in both directions. When when it goes against kind of what you guys are hoping for, how do you feel like this group has been processing it? Is is it harder that for a lot of these guys these guys, it’s their first time in this position or is it kind of the same as last year’s team, you guys lost a clutch game? Uh, I mean, yeah, it’s just the just the process of understanding where we can get better and again, you know, we always talk about there’s plays that we could be better at throughout the whole game and then just executing down there. So, uh, just have to have the mindset of of where we can get better and when we’re in that situation, again, execute. What do you think, um, Anthony, obviously super involved in the first half and, you know, try to get him in there crunch time in some spots. What do you feel like this one did for him in terms of that acclimation process we’ve been talking about? He’s fine. I mean, I think he’s he’s fine. He’s getting better. uh got some good defensive possessions. Uh he was he was good tonight and uh you know we went with him at the end. Joe, you mentioned the Justin Edwards threes and getting caught. Was there something with the defense that you didn’t like those possessions? Was it just the close out wasn’t quick enough? Like what did you I mean I think it was just again it’s maxi pick and rolls. You have to be able to do both. He he played well. That’s it. I mean it was you know he he he played well. Uh I thought we played well too and uh we just didn’t make enough plays down the stretch. Do you talk to Josh about not playing in the second half and the reasons for that or do you talk to him tomorrow or is it just on him to kind of figure out and then move forward? It’s between me and Josh. Nope. First half. Okay. We played well. It was a great offensive process. Uh, you know, I thought we we missed some two-on-one advantages there, but I thought we played really well from a process standpoint. Uh, obviously didn’t shoot the ball well and we missed some, like I said, some advantages, but I thought the process of playing, you know, was really good offensively. Great. Thanks, Joe. Thanks. Thanks, Joe. Uh there’s Joe Moula uh wrapping it up. I I a couple uh postgame postgame nuggets uh on the Joe Missoula press conference. Uh first of all, the ball just didn’t fall to UB. It was a complete failure uh to box out there, right? Uh Bobby’s Bobby’s question, Jaylen was great all night. That’s really questionable as well. Um particularly on the defensive end, I thought he looked a step slow all night. let’s just be honest about it. Um that was that and defensively I didn’t think this was a great effort by him uh for a lot of the game. Uh a lot of ball watching. Um and this was a really bad case of it. And that’s it was an egregious uh you know mess up there uh to finish that game. The other one is the Simon’s comment. Small and subtle, but again asked by Bobby, you know, what’ you see tonight? Or, you know, kind of what, you know, basically Bobby just kind of, you know, he he got some he got some run. Uh, you know, what what went on there? And Joe said, I thought he played well, so I kept him in there, which again leads me to believe that he’s on a leash. Um, if I like what I see, he stays, and if I don’t, he doesn’t. And this was kind of what uh fueled my little rant the other night, which is you don’t just play this guy two minutes and six minutes. He’s just he’s one of the guys you play all the time. And again, he’s playing 25 minutes a game. It’s not like he’s not playing, but like I don’t think he’s one of those, you know, I don’t like what I’m seeing from this guy. Sidum guys. Not on this team. On this team, you need what he gives you because you’ve seen it. He’s completely turned games on their head with his with with with with the with with the offense that he provides. You you play him because you don’t know when that’s coming. If you don’t play him or you play him short stints or you don’t give him another chance, you’re missing out on that. He’s flipping games on their head by just going insane. We’ve seen it now three games in a row where he in a quarter or a stretch he just puts up double digit points like that and it it looks like he can’t miss. Like that’s And he can create his own shot, too, which is different than a lot. Extremely valuable. Yeah. And I thought he passed his ass off tonight. He really passed. Yeah. I I want the potential assist number, too, because he was throwing a bunch of dimes all game long. Um, you know, for the for the for the potential assist crowd out there. Somebody feed me that stat because I thought he was good all night. So, again, we’re still stuck in a weird place where Joe’s like judging him. Can we talk Can we Can we Everyone has everyone has imperfections. Yeah, we can play that. So, this was interesting. Let’s kind of run through the whole Simon situation because I’m not sure entirely what’s going on here uh there. But like I am so this was Jaylen uh after last game which were very curious comments uh in regards to Simon’s usage. He’s We have to figure out how to maximize everybody’s potential to whatever degree that is. And Anthony is a guy who’s very talented. So, we have to figure out we can continue to maximize his potential um regardless of like what it looks like. So, we just got to keep an open mind. It was great to see him be aggressive in the first half and get it going a little bit. That’s what we need. Um that takes pressure off of everyone. So, uh going forward, we got to look for that more and it’s a long season. So, we just got to keep an open mind. Okay. So he said open mind twice and I called it out right on the show and you guys talked about it as well after I left. I know you cut you played that fight again. It’s very clear he’s like we got to play the we got to play the freaking guy. Like what what are we doing here? And it was a little bit of a shot right uh at Joe. That’s how I took it. There’s no other way. Who who I mean shot might be harsh but it was a message. It was say hey find out like we we need this guy on the court. Figure it out. Right. It’s for no other reason. It makes Jaylen’s job easier, right? Ask someone to score. Yeah. If you’re asking someone to be open-minded, you are essentially saying at a they’re being stubborn. You know, that’s it’s that’s what that means. Be more open-minded as opposed to what you are now, which is stubborn and not open-minded. And you’re kind of fixated on what we’re saying, fixated on what he can’t do instead of what he can do. And again, players aren’t coaches. coaches understand the game better and if players ran the show, it would be a [ __ ] show. And we’ve seen players try to play GM and they want their buddies and they want guys who score and do stats and it’s not their job to put teams together. So, I’m not saying players always know best. I’m just saying that was the comment that was made by Jaylen Brown uh there. I’m not saying he’s right and therefore, you know, because I share that opinion also. Jaylen said it too. So, I must be I I I don’t I don’t think players know necessarily what’s best, but it still was, you know, Jaylen’s opinion. Uh here were Simons and Joe when asked about it at a pregame shoot around this morning in Philly yourself. Um I think, you know, I go into the game, you know, having, you know, respecting what, you know, all the other players on the team have have done. And um you know it kind of might make me a little bit more passive than I need to be. But um they just been trying to get me to be that same player that you were before you know I came here. And so um you know and also I’m just trying to figure out you know my time to be be aggressive when not to be and when to be able to you know get other player shots as well. So but they’ve been trying to just tell me to just go out there and be yourself and uh so that’s been the that’s been the kind of battle I’ve been you know trying to figure out game. the battle. I mean, it was like 2 minutes in the first half in that Friday game. Second half, I think it was like a, you know, 10 minutes didn’t for you. It feels like the time’s going to be inconsistent sometimes. Like, how do you react react to that when like obviously you’re very involved in the first half and second half you might not be? Um, just the time that you do get um just go out there and make the, you know, the best most of it, you know, your time out there on the court. I think um it’s always a self-reflection moment where you know maybe you feel like you didn’t do anything do the right things out there and so you got to look yourself in the mirror first before you you know point fingers or look into why why something’s not happening. So um that’s the way I see it and you know I said control what you control and go out there and when you do get your time make the most of it and you know try to make an impact that way. Yeah. I mean I think he’s just uh he’s he’s a a guy that we just need to be assertive uh when he’s at his best. he’s aggressive. Uh whether it’s play calls, whether it’s just making sure he knows we need him to be aggressive. He just has to be able to do it. So, he’s had some good games in that. Um you know, I can be I can be better pushing him to be more assertive and uh you know, he just has to be able to do that for us cuz you know, when he does, it’s uh we’re a different team. Yeah. I mean, I think that’s it. That’s the balance. Do things uh we want you to be yourself. Uh especially offensively. And you know, I think he’s done a good job being committed to being better and physical and the things that we need defensively. So, I think uh we’re not asking him to to not be uh who he is. He’s just, you know, there’s an understanding about the defensive side of the ball, which I think he’s taken on. And then uh like I said, I could be better. We could be better making sure that uh he’s more comfortable on the offensive end. So, there’s a lot there, right? There’s a lot there. Like I I’ll you guys go for you guys go first because I mean the the the Simon saying he’s battling and he’s trying to figure it out. Like he’s getting jerked around a little bit. I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve it because we don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. But Joe isn’t loving what he’s seeing on a regular basis. He’s seeing inconsistencies and Simons doesn’t know what it is he needs to be doing different. He’s he seems a little lost. Right. Well, the battle that I think Simons is experiencing is you’re telling me on the one hand, you want me to go out there and be aggressive and be myself, but at the same time, you’re telling me I still haven’t I’m doing that, but I’m not doing it as often as you want. and yet my minutes are being kind of all over the map. Uh the bottom line with with Simons is that he’s yet to enter the Joe Missoula circle of trust. It’s it’s clear and and we’ve seen how that looks. When you’re in there, you can miss a defensive assignment from time to time and not have to worry about getting yanked. You can, you know, make a mistake or two here and there and know that at some point Joe’s going to correct you, but it’s not going to have a significantly adverse effect to your playing time. Anthony Simus, you played two minutes and a half. Judah, did this happen with Porzingis? Did this happen with Holiday? Did this happen with White? Absolutely not. They brought them in and they played them. Like, what are we talking about here? This isn’t a new player thing. This is a this is a this is a something Simons is doing that Joe doesn’t like thing. And I’m not saying he’s wrong, but there’s obviously something there. It’s really, again, I think he’s I think he’s the problem. I think Sherrod, I’m sorry to jump in because I think the pro the problem here is Joe’s coaching Simons like he’s on last year’s team and what it would take to earn minutes on last year’s team. And this is a different situation. on last year’s team. You can’t do what everybody else does and keep up defensively and play and switch and and and mind your assignment when everybody else around you can. I got other guys, man, who can do what you can do. I got plenty of guys who can shoot and fill it up. I don’t need this. I can play you 15 minutes a night and we’re okay. I can put play you in the Sam Hower instant offense role. I don’t need it. This is not that team. And that’s that’s the difference, right? And and and along those same lines now, the the players that you name when you talk about Pzingis, you talk about Al, you talk about Drew Holiday, those guys made Joe’s job not necessarily easier, but more simple, more simplified. Uh you knew what they could do and when they had to audible in, you know, in real time, they could do that because they were built to do that. Simons is not. You’re going to have to really kind of guide him as to what you want him to do. if you’re going to have him in the same type of blueprint that you have had in the past. But that’s the problem. This is not that team. Those these guys should not be held to the same standard as your team from a year ago because those guys were better. And to me, the irony the the irony of that is Joe and most coaches will be the first thing first ones to tell you that every year, even if you got everyone back, it’s a different kind of team. you kind of gotta coach that way and I’m not sure that’s happening, right? Yeah. I think I think one of the things Sherrod said that I agree with is is that he’s not in the Missou Circle of Trust. He’s getting treated like he’s in the Stay Ready crew and he’s not a Stay Ready crew member. This guy started in in Portland. This guy is a starter in the NBA and he’s a starter on this Celtics team. The problem is he’s starting at a position where they have other talent, right? Let’s not forget they made this trade not because they needed a player like Simons. They made this trade because they wanted to get rid of Holiday and Blazers were probably one of the only teams willing to take on that contract. And the Celtics just so happened to get a good player back in Simons. And if there’s if he’s not going to be in the starting lineup, he should be treated as he should be playing six man of the year type numbers. and he should get that respect because it’s clear that when he’s in the game he can affect the game positively. It’s clear to me that he’s their best shooter certainly right now. Um you know Derek White’s starting to get a little bit maybe a little bit hotter here and we’ll see how things shake out. But man, Simon’s shots pretty as hell. You know, watching him create his own shot, step back, just switch the ball. You’re right, he scores in bunches better than he’s in the 90th percentile of a guy that can just probably get hot and score in bunches, I would say. And so to take him out, especially in a moment where that’s happening, turnover or not, I can’t wrap my head around it. I can’t defend it. I don’t know exactly why. Joe couldn’t really explain it. But I will say after re-watching all those clips that we showed, I feel like Jaylen Brown’s on our side on this one. Jaylen Brown’s probably scratching his head saying, “Why is Simon’s on the bench right now? Why is why is mine not in the game? Or, you know, why is Pritchard still in or why is Walsh in or or you know, what’s going on here? Why why isn’t Simon’s in the game right now? Or why do we just take him out?” He understands what Simon’s capable of. Jaylen Brown wants to win games. And the last time I checked, the team with the most amount of points wins the game. Celis are barely getting over 100. They hit 100 tonight. And Simons was a player that probably could have got you a few more points had he was if he was able to play a little bit longer amount of stretches. Give the guy a heat check. You know, I think he’s deserved that, you know, is when he’s when he’s playing the way he is. So, I find it interesting. I do think that things are going to continue to evolve and change with this roster for all the reasons you guys gave. They’re a much worse team talent-wise than they were last year. Joe should be tinkering with these lineups. Joe should be trying to figure out, you know, who’s better to play with who and who should be playing more and who should be playing less. I mean, my not playing zero minutes in the second half tonight is something that, you know, obviously stands out as well. And Mizo didn’t even want to talk about it. So he’s very like temperamental I think is a good word with all these everything is very almost bobby-esque like prisoner of the moment with Joe right now where it’s there’s not much of a leash for anybody on this team not named you know brown or or or white. Yeah. Yeah. So I I I think Joe’s in a tough spot. This is the problem. This is why I don’t get on like you we can argue about the game management situation here. The reason I don’t get Joe as a coach in terms of what he’s trying to do, you know, to get these guys going, uh, you know, and and and, you know, figure out who to play is that I don’t think there’s really any good solutions. Uh, you know, just some stuff is simpler than he’s making it out to be, which is Simons just plays because he’s one of the more talented offensive players you have on this team and you lost a lot of talented offensive players. And you’ve got your energy and your defense guys and you fill them up and you put them on the court and those guys are interchangeable. Your Walshes, your Ugos, your May not and that’s what those guys are. You got hustle guys. How many teams are built on four hustle guys who can’t score? Like none. It’s that’s just not it doesn’t work in the NBA. Having those guys is invaluable. Having that guy who can come in and lock up a maxi late in the game, unreal, you know, like if you’ve got those types of players, you put them in there. especially when you can kind of play a late game defense for offense, switch them out, you know, call a timeout, get your other guys in, but like you just can’t play them for long stretches of time because you you’re going to really struggle to to to score and it’s that’s you’re going to lose more games than you’re going to win there. That can only get you so far. They got too many of those guys, not enough of the other guys, and that’s what they need. This wouldn’t be as much of an issue right now if some of your better offensive players were playing better offensively. But Sam Hower is a complete zero right now uh in terms of what he’s giving you uh there uh this season. He’s generating zero offense uh for you at all. And then White and Pritchard have really struggled shooting the ball uh this season from, you know, from the outside in particular. So given all of that, there’s no I don’t want to beat a dead horse. There’s no way you’re you you’re not leaning heavily on a guy like Simons just simply because you need the buckets, you know, like it’s just it’s just something you need. So I I don’t know. I think all of this is going to kind of be thrown out a little bit because they’re going to enter a pretty easy stretch here with the the double Brooklyns and the Memphis coming up here and, you know, there won’t be as much of a concern. So, I think some of this stuff will get wiped away here for a bit, but this problem’s going to continue. And Jimmy, you’re 100% right. There’s going to be a lot of tinkering. U, we spent some time on it earlier, uh, and want to go back to it. We did say this was a good Jordan Walsh game. Uh, and it was a good Jordan Walsh game. Uh, as we said, a career-high 29 minutes. Uh, let’s hear from Jordan Walsh out of the locker room after this one. What are you trying to do against Tyrese there on those late possessions defensively? Stop him from scoring. What was I trying to do? um stop him from scoring for sure. Um I mean yeah the assignment was to just like like I knew the starting report so it was just to make him do things that he’s not comfortable with doing and make him take shots that we’re comfortable with him taking. How much do you feel like your growth on the defensive end is about understanding player tendencies like in this case someone like Maxi compared to just the effort that you’ve been playing with? Um I think it’s definitely a huge combination of both. Um, but yeah, I think a big part of it is, you know, knowing their tendencies because like the way that we play is, you know, if you can make him take a shot that we want him to take, then and if he makes it, then it’s like, all right, kudos to him, you know, but, um, just trying to force him into uncomfortable situations. So, he has to play a different style of basketball than he’s used to. Jordan, on those Justin Edwards threes late in the game, he he got hot a little bit there. Was there Joe mentioned that it was just, you know, he played good, the defense was there. What did you see on those possessions in particular? Um, I mean, I’ I’d agree with him honestly. I think I think he just he stepped up in those moments and and made the shots that were necessary, you know. Um, but I think that we were there. I think we got a good contest. I think that we did our job. I think he just, you know, found fire. B, you’ve been in the locker room a lot of times after these tough losses in the playoffs, crunch time games during the season. being on the court now and having played like 30 minutes in this game. Does it feel any different being like now sitting, you know, sitting here talking to us, all of that, just processing that loss? Um, yeah, it definitely I think it feels maybe a little different. Um, I mean, it still hurts equally as much, you know, whether you’re playing or not, you know, you never want to have your guys, you know, lose. Um, but there’s definitely an added sense of like, dang, all right, now what could I have done better to, you know, get over that hump? you know, these these close games. Um, how can I affect it that those extra two points? Do I get another stop at one possession and then hopefully that changes? Um, but I definitely start thinking about it that way rather than just, you know, feeling it for the guys. Last question. That being said, how gratifying is this stretch for you? I know it’s a loss, but to see all of your hard work kind of come together and Joe trusting in you and these crunch time moments, starting you in the second half, that kind of stuff. Um, I think that it’s huge. which I think it says a lot um for the the trust that the organization has in me. Obviously Joe um and then also the trust that you know the guys have in me as well by you know getting me involved um trusting that all right if he’s you know guarding the best player that we want him on there and he’s going to get a stop. We just have to be ready for what’s after that. And so it is definitely it builds confidence I feel like with every possession, every play, you know, every time out it’s like they’re talking to me, I’m talking to them and we’re just building more and more chemistry and I think that in the long run it’s going to be successful that way. Thank you, Jordan. I got to say one thing. Um, he seems more chill on the court and off the court. Um, you know, I think so much of his tenure has been defined by I’m not saying he’s like a spazzy, fasttalking guy after, but like he seems much more chill right now in the and he’s playing less like he’s all over the place, but it’s less flailing and lost and jumping around and where am I supposed to be, you know? and he, you know, he’s definitely there’s a more calm about him in general. I was just thinking it through listening to him there as well. You know what, John? He he sounds like a guy who, you know, remember when when guys first come to the league and they’re going like 100 miles an hour, but then they start talking about how the game has slowed down. I think that’s what we’re seeing in Jordan and just the way he’s able to articulate the way he plays and the way he actually plays. I think the game has slowed down to where he’s kind of found his pace, his rhythm, uh, that allows him to be effective when he does get his opportunity. Uh, which again is is part of the reason why I’m ready. I’m definitely renting with the intent to buy because I need to see this more often. I need to see this become not just something that happens for a good week. I need to see a good month where he’s playing like this. And that I’m not talking about just the statistics and and all that. I’m just simply seeing him play at a pace that’s very consistent. Uh getting out there guarding the best player, whether that guy cooks him or not, is he being consistent with his effort and his ability to contest and his ability to compete? And I think Jordan, he’s kind of at that point now. And it it it feels like it came out of nowhere cuz he literally went from watching a game, making sure the passport is up to date because he was part of that passport ready crew. 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I think it was Edwards, not Edgecomb there on the three uh who was left open. But yeah, just we did talk about it. It was bad everywhere. Uh everywhere. Action Benz, we can’t answer that. I think Jaylen Brown might have to look I’ll tell you this. Action Benz stuck one of these in early normal nons super chat edition and I kind of shhat on it a little bit and he said, “You know what? I’m going to let my I’m going to let my feelings be known. I’m going to put 10 bucks behind it.” And that’s what he did. And the start Simons crew needs to get real. There’s a reason no one wanted him when the Celtics look to trade his salary. He’s a onedimensional scorer. Insert offense off the bench. Nothing more. We all agree. I spent 10 bucks to sound that dumb. Wow. We all We all agree. I’m just kidding. We But we’ve been over this on this team. You don’t have complete players. You’ve got one-dimensional players or no dimensional players. He’s elite at one thing. That’s better than being okay at one and horrible at another. It’s the thing you want to be a lead at. The hardest thing to do. Uh would uh Pritchard have been able to lead the Blazers to the West playoffs in place of Simons? Noah thinks so. I don’t know. It’s possible. No. Uh I don’t know. We’re going to bring in this guy and that girl right here and we’re going to talk we’re going to talk about it a little bit. We may be saying goodbye to Sherrod. Is it time? Sherrod has to go. I I want to give everyone a I won’t take it personally. Sherrod, a quick five bucks. We don’t get these very often. Lock it in every wind. Water. [Laughter] Your powers combined. Sorry. That’s an old cartoon. You lot of good references. Well done. Roll that cartoon. Yeah, we’re we’re we’re Voltron here. But it’s okay. We’ll be fine. Um Sherrod, peace out. He’s got official teacher business to take care of. So, we will see him later. We’ll go back to our uh for a cross layout here. And uh guys, we started at the end and I know you guys asked some questions about it. Um, you know, it’s not always about what happens in the end, but in this particular game, I think it kind of was. Um, you know, really bad uh last two sequences there both defensively with Jaylen falling asleep. Uh, the bad switch, not resetting, not finding out where he was supposed to be on that last possession, and then allowing um Ubé to get the uncontested putback layup, and then just the horrible last possession there with the Celtics looking to tire win. Um, and the question of why didn’t they call a timeout when things went to hell uh there and Derek White had the ball 45 ft from the basket facing the wrong direction with three and a half seconds left to go. I don’t know. Um, can you guys answer any any of these questions? Answer. We need answers. Yeah, I think it’s an even better question now that White said that they weren’t able to get to what they wanted to there, which was a a possession for Jaylen. Now, we’ve come to know at this point that Joe doesn’t call those Brad timeouts. I’ll call them Brad timeouts cuz he used to always do that, right? Plays breaking down. Doesn’t look good. He did lose control of the ball, Noah. Right. So, I’m not exactly sure if they could have called timeout there necessarily after he got knocked back off his spot. And I did think that was a foul in real time. I haven’t gotten a good look back at it. I don’t know if you guys have, but I’m not normally a ref guy. Hey, it looked like it was a pretty strong push or slap, whatever it ended up being there by Drummond that knocked White Bite off his spot. So, yeah, I mean, you always look back at those situations when they don’t work out and say, “Probably should have called the timeout there.” Um, Joe’s philosophy is to let it roll and and that’s just who he is as a coach and it’s what you come to expect. Is it the right decision? Is it the wrong decision? In this case, clearly it was the wrong one given how the play blew up. I don’t know. I don’t know. Could they have called a timeout there after he got knocked off the ball a little bit? Yeah, honestly I thought they were going to just based off the fact that the play had kind of broken down there. Um, easy to obviously easy to say now because he didn’t get a good shot and also he could have gotten a better shot like he was I think he said it himself. He rushed that one seconds left. Yeah. And then I mean I’m not this is not blaming Kada because this is just a freak play but they almost had it right. He had literally the ball in his hand. That could have been like if you look at the photos like the screenshot of those moments like it looked like Kada was going to dunk that one and tie it up in which case we’re we’re thrilled with how it panned out. So, I mean, it was a broken play for sure. And I think the reality is, yeah, why not call a timeout at those moments? And maybe Joe’s timeout philosophy will change now that he doesn’t have a a lineup that just has like four advantages on the floor at all points, whereas in the past, I think what he always pointed to was we have advantages in most of these matchups. and it’s just about finding those and maintaining those. So, I wouldn’t be shocked if it could change throughout the course of the season when they just have a different skill set. Um, but that that doesn’t stand out to me as like the one of the top few things that went wrong here down the stretch. Uh, okay. Uh, how about and and again, you did you almost had a you know, I’ll date myself here, but you guys have definitely seen the the the the videos. It was almost a Jimmy V, you know, NC State 1983 situation with the shot that ended up being an alley oop, you know, dunked into the to to finish the game there. But, um, that last possession there, um, you know, I, you know, I watched it back a couple of times. Uh, there’s a lot of bad Jaylen there. Um, from from the unnecessary double to chasing Maxi to a place he didn’t need to go because Walsh had already pushed him away from the basket. Um, and then just being stuck in the paint there, then not getting out on the shooter. Pritchard having to try to close out from under the basket, sprint out there uh on the three-point shooter, and then Jaylen just turns around and just watches Ubé walk right by him to the basket. Uh that’s a shocking lack of focus from your best player uh on the most critical play of the game. Yeah, it’s like you try and do three things at once there. And he he ran through it. I don’t know if he played all of them right. All of them wrong. No, should we play? And I I think I think uh you know J Jordan had that play handled. I felt like um for the most part there. I know you’re trying to help and that’s what you’re doing this year, but it felt like they were in a position late in this game where they wanted Jordan. And Jordan said it too, Noah, like let me handle the best player there. You know, that’s what we were trying to do and then, you know, figure everything out from there. like I, you know, he was just talking about what his role is, but I thought it was pretty indicative of what they were trying to do down the stretch there, which was have him on Maxi. Um, maybe there was some help that was supposed to come from there, but too aggressive in that spot and then you’re in rotation and that’s how guys get missed on offensive rebound putbacks there. I don’t know if that’s exactly why he missed UB in that situation there. It looked like UB just kind of strolled right past him. They were standing next to each other like there was the guy next to him. That’s the guy you box out. the guy right next and I don’t have a problem with the Edwards thing like that was the game plan against him is you know they were gonna try to let him shoot and have that be the weakest shot on the floor and it burned them like we’ve been down that road a million times too like these are just Joe things that blew up in their face tonight right yeah let’s let’s hear from Jaylen after the game we haven’t played it yet scream me to get to my right hand um I feel like uh I got two on the ball just kind of like stopped me on the sideline so I got off it uh threw it to DY um just to see if we can make a play. I’m not sure what happened after that. Jaylen, you guys have had a lot of clutch games this year. Is there anything consistent you’re noticing in some of the ones you’re dropping or, you know, the plays leading up to get to that point where you guys are in a clutch situation? Um, just little little possessions, little stuff that throughout the game that we, you know, have to be better at. Tonight was uh was not a good example uh of that. You know, poor performance by me on both sides of the ball. you know, I let my guys down tonight. What are some of those little things you are noticing? Uh, rebounds, you know, just layups, you know, just little stuff, transition opportunities, stuff that you just got to take advantage of that uh we didn’t tonight. Jordan had some big stops on Maxi. Have you seen him grow in his role, especially on the defensive end? Yeah, I thought Maxi was great tonight. I mean, I thought uh Jordan was great tonight. Um, he’s shooting the ball well. He’s doing his job. Um, so it’s good it’s a good sign. Good sign from Jordan. What happened on the Justin Edwards miss that allowed Kelly to get behind you. Um, Maxi was driving. He turned his back. I thought I could go make a play. I was guarding uh Richardson. Uh I thought that you know if I went to go make a play that uh wouldn’t be enough time for to get shut off but end up leaving Richardson like wide open for a three and then kind of like was like you know like [ __ ] and then Uber just kind of I guess I was trying to listen to that a easy offensive rebound you know got caught ball watching um just got to get in there and get in the fight. You talked a little bit the other night about getting Anthony involved and up to speed and being a little more creative there. Like what are you looking for in that aspect in terms of getting him involved more and being more creative? Like what do you mean by that? Say that again. What do you mean by being more creative with how you use Anthony and just getting him up to speed here? Like I don’t I don’t know what you the other night you were saying that you know we got to get more out of Anthony. Yeah. Just him being aggressive. I think that’s it. Just him being aggressive, putting him in a an opportunity for him to maximize his potential. That’s it. Put him in an opportunity. Damn it. Same sort of line. What was the question? Um there uh good on Jaylen. He owned it. It wasn’t a great It wasn’t a great game. It was a bad bad, you know, bad effort there. um in that moment um you know where you know obviously a critical play late in the game um but yeah not great not great from uh a lot of your Yeah. I feel like Brown’s always accountable for the most part. No, he’s great. He’s great like that. Yeah, he he doesn’t say we as much as Do you Do you not mean that? No, I do. I think he’s I think he’s I think he’s dead accountable and honest and he’ll call he’ll call himself out. He’ll call other people out, you know. I think sometimes he does the we thing when you know, whatever. But for the most part, when he when he when when he doesn’t think he did it, he he absolutely owns it. Um so yeah, no, he’s he’s great. I actually love Jaylen’s leadership vibes generally speaking all season long. Uh no problem. Like I I like it. I like I like the way he’s going about it. Uh here this was just a bad, you know, this was just a really bad play at the at the worst possible time. Uh here I think it was a minus 12 in the fourth quarter, too. I I think he looked off all night here. And again, I you know, we start to we’re going to start to get into the point where you will talk about like whether load management a little bit is here. It is kind of played the most games in the league by far. They played the most games and everybody has played every game with the except everyone has suited up for every game and played when they were healthy with the exception of Garza who went out with a the concussion. But like they they haven’t lost bodies really uh to injuries and they haven’t sat anybody for the sake of just managing their minutes. Um and I I don’t know if it’s taking its toll, but like we’ve already talked about Brown’s athleticism looking a little bit less uh this season. Um, you know, today he looked even more sluggish and yeah, maybe it’s a cold, who knows what, but he looked he looked a step slow or like he was uh kind of standing around on defense kind for a lot of the night. You guys do you guys see that? Yeah, this was not a good Jaylen game. I think uh you know the last play kind of was the most indicative like moment there but with the exception of the third quarter where he went on a good little shooting stretch like I thought that the first half he was missing uncharacteristic shots based on how the season has gone for him offensively like those are the kinds of shots that he’s been pretty much automatic with and then I think he’s just he looked he did look tired and I honestly didn’t think anything of it until postgame like he was clearly very like congested and and was like sneezed like he it was it was very evident when he walked over Um, but I don’t know if it has anything to do with it. It might have something to do with it. It might Yeah, he looked off. Yeah, this was definitely I think this was with unless I’m missing a game. I think this was his worst game of the season. Um, and he was Yeah, he was pretty clear about that postgame as well. Um, but yeah, that’s just like that’s just a tough tough final play there. Like he said it himself. He just got caught ball watching. Um, and on the last possession like makes me think a little bit of like you know the Derek White put back like those kinds of moment those kinds of plays like win you know win games when you they’re just so massive and everybody’s thinking in that moment like a guy’s going to try to crash here. So just a tough one. Um yeah I think all me and half me and half of Jimmy Tusano have talked about a lot of things tonight. [Laughter] I was so I just want everyone to see my I want everyone to see my tree. That’s all. That’s a problem for J. I’ll let I’ll let you guys pick the next topic so we don’t keep heading I have one more question on Jaylen because I’m curious. I can’t figure this out myself. Ask yourselves the question. We’ve talked too much. Yeah, I can answer it. Go reasonable. No, no. You said you have one more question on jail. Okay, I’ll answer. It’s it’s it’s a fact. I They’ve been worse. Is it a question or a fact? Oh, yeah. It’s a question about a fact that they’ve been worse with him on the four than off this year. Why do you think that is? I would mostly attribute that. I think the first quarter rotations where it’s been him, Garza, Simons, that unit has not been great. And you look at the plus minuses when those three guys or those two guys have played together. They’ve been better of late, like the last two games, but early on in particular, I think that was it was a kind of a rotation thing. I mean, I don’t think they’re better when he’s not playing. Um, but like right now the the best combo is like when Kada and Walsh are playing. Like that’s and it’s been like a very good defensive lineup, but um you know to me it’s just more of a rotation thing. Like he’s the guy that’s playing with that second unit coming in and the second unit has for the most part been outscored this season with the exception of I think the two Orlando games. Um so yeah, not not something that I think has a ton of significance. I was just curious why because there have been situations this year the Utah game where you’re like all right when he’s on the floor they’ve been great when he’s off the floor they really struggle but the numbers haven’t backed that up for some reason obviously they’re cycling rotations in and out feels like the rotations changed again tonight and I guess I’ll ask another question all you guys like are we at a position now where you have to consider starting Walsh after what he showed tonight so we we talked about it started exactly like he already did it. Like you saw this. This is what happened to Hower. It’s how it happened to Hower. He started first couple games, then May not started the second half for him, and then May not started the next game, I believe. Um, and so it’s not a huge leap to think that that would happen. You might lose a little bit on the glass there, and I think that was one of the reasons why you put my not in there, but you’ll certainly have the defensive energy uh that Walsh has been bringing. The problem is it’s the same guy kind of, right? Like it’s energy, defense, can’t shoot. like and like look and we said it well this season John he’s been better but if he gets if he can consistently knock down we said this about him I think he can if he gets to 35 to 37% on those corner threes he’s he’s he’s f he he’s playable right absolutely uh and and so if that’s what you think and you think you can get that from him I I’m I would rather see it because I think I know who May not is and I don’t think you’re going to get that from him I don’t think you’re going to get consistent shooting out of him I think Walsh is far more likely to deliver that. But I’m still I’m not I’m still a little dubious. But his main I’m all for I’m all for experimenting there. It wouldn’t be shocking if you saw Walsh and Simons rotate in, but I don’t think Simons will because it sounds like Joe still hates him a little bit. Um just in terms of his commentary, there’s a lot of tough love there. I’ll just say on the Walsh piece, one of the things that is I think unique about this season is that you know a guy nobody’s like with the exception of Jaylen Brown and Derek White I don’t think anybody is married to a particular opportunity and I don’t think Joe feels an obligation to keeping players out there which is pretty empowering. Certainly certainly not where they were at last year where most of the guys were predetermined to close out games when the tip off happened, right? And so Jordan in my eyes the thing that he’s been built at and you I think you guys know I’ve loved you know I’ve watched him play a ton and I’ve been really invested because part of it is that he was drafted like right before I started this job. So I’ve just feel like I’ve followed his career but he’s been bu as like a really good defender and to be honest I hadn’t really seen that in his first few years in the league. He wasn’t this lockdown defender in the G- League. He wasn’t. and he wasn’t in limited sense coming onto the court and and locking guys down. And so I wanted to like subscribe to this vision with him because I love that type of player. Like that’s my favorite prototype of player is a guy that comes in and just like looks down. But he just wasn’t that. And this year you’re seeing him completely like make a 180. Like I think he’s completely turned it on over the past week and a half to a level defensively that I didn’t know he was capable of truthfully. Um, and on the on the glass as well, like I don’t know how much of a downgrade he is from Josh Minard. Like Minot has a little bit of size there. He he is a little bit more of a ball magnet, but but Jordan’s really battled well on on the boards this past three games. Keeps it alive. Yep. So yeah, I think Josh’s starting spot it and Bobby Asen last week totally up for grabs and I wouldn’t be shocked if Jordan starts the next four games and then Ugo comes in and starts the next three games and Sam, you know, like I think it’s going to be a rotating thing and nothing is predetermined at this point because that group was really good for a few games and then the last few games they’ve gone on to slow starts and so Joe said in pregame too like the last couple of games it hasn’t been as great and so maybe teams are figuring him out. Maybe he got a little complacent. I don’t know. But I think Jordan, I wouldn’t be shocked at all if he’s given opportunity. I don’t think you’re giving up a whole lot at this point. Like he’s shown things that are great. I’m fine. I don’t think Minot’s the guy and but I like him a lot, but I do think he’s a good I can’t believe that tough and and a bench guy. Last week at this time, we were talking about Josh Min like he was the greatest thing on earth. I don’t want to overreact up and down to any of these guys. The point is, well, I love what he brings. Yeah, you’re talking about a you want you’re trying to find someone in that starting lineup who could potentially bring you 25 to 30 minutes a night in that spot and be able to do multiple things to defend and to knock down shots or to be more of a scorer who can who can handle their responsibilities defensively. You know, I just I think you’re always asking too much of a guy like May not there and Walsh might be more capable of doing that and again it’s early but I think he was five of 10 coming in. What he do? one of three tonight from three. So, six of 13 on the season, it’s a super small sample size, but if he’s anywhere near, you know, 35 to 38%. He’s absolutely playable with this level of defense. I agree, Noah, he looks more locked in because I always thought before he was kind of he was energetic but all over the place. He’d be he’d be Yeah. early is a very good comp. Yeah. Yeah. It feels like to it was very erratic before. It was a lot of fouls. A lot of times he was going for steals and he wasn’t getting that. I mean, truthfully, even in Maine, I didn’t look at him in Maine as like this this lot. And if you’re not looking like a great defender in Maine, like how is that going to translate? And then here he is and I was watching him guard Tyresese Maxi on the stretch and I’m like, this is maybe the best Tyresese Maxi defender I’ve seen in the last couple years here for the Celtics. Like they’ve Tyres Maxi’s been a thorn in the Celtic side for years now, right? And so maybe it’s just like all the work and the confidence and the this the film, it all kind of came together and like you now have what you were hoping for when you drafted and maybe it’s just a good week. I don’t know. Um but I think the race is going to continue between those guys and everybody’s had good moments and everybody’s had bad moments and Josh, I don’t know exactly what it is that he did in the second quarter, but the way that he went out of the game, I was like, I don’t know if we’re going to see him again. So I got Can you Can you explain that because No, I don’t know. I think he fouled or he was out of position, but he just looked so dejected checking out of the game. I don’t know if he was told something or if he just knew he had messed up one too many times, but the last two games now he played 15 in whatever night it was in Orlando and then 10 eight minutes tonight. He has not had the energizing impact that he had the previous like four. Um I feel bad he’s had a couple that was a third foul coming out so you know you know you’re done for the half there. That’s happened a couple times lately that he’s hit picked up that third foul before the half. He’ll be back. You know, this will this pendulum will continue to swing between these three or four guys all season probably. I I I like the guy, but that’s the problem is if you’re a starter and it’s possible that you only play eight minutes in a game, you’re not really a starter. You know what I mean? Is like you got to it that the pendulum might swing, but you can’t you can’t try a guy out to start and be like, I don’t want to play him anymore at all today. you know, like that’s that to me is it like in too big a deal and I like him a lot. I but I do feel bad, you know, because now he might be in his head a little bit because, you know, he had that, you know, that grievous, you know, that turnover uh two games ago uh that basically swung the entire game. Uh and now he kind of gets yanked. you know, he’s he might have lost his starting spot and he gets, you know, pulled in the first half, never to be seen again. You definitely feel bad for the guy. I still like a lot of what he brings and I like his energy. You’re just you’re waiting for someone to step up and be a bit more of a complete player and I just don’t know that May not has enough of an offensive skill set to ever be that guy. It’s nothing against him. I like I like the player a lot. And you know what’s tough too for all these guys is everybody’s going to look a little better playing next to White and Brown and the starting unit and Kada like you know the Kada Walsh numbers Noah was mentioned there like all these guys are going to perform better lining up their minutes with the starters just because of how much playmaking’s there and how little pressurees on them defensively and all that. My worry with sending may not to the bench is that is he just going to be floating out there with Simons and Garza and those lineups will just continue to struggle for you guys like it’s tough right now where anyone that you’re sending to the second unit is kind of just getting cast to the side and anyone who’s being integrated into the starting unit with all those you know frontline players on this team have done better. Um, so I lean riding the May not kada thing a little longer here just because I think the Ugo Walsh thing has been good off the bench. I think you can probably get Walsh into the game quicker. Like he didn’t come in for 10 minutes tonight. No. And I was like, you know, when when’s he coming in and Okay. You know that that’s probably something that you could just bump up to get him out there with the starters, you know. Okay. All right, guys. Let’s have the Simons conversation. I’m not going to say a thing. Go. Me neither. You guys go. We already talked about it. It’s really tough. I don’t know what they can do. You guys solution. Do we have a problem? Hot potato. Hot potato. What’s this? Like what’s can we be more The problem is Okay. The problem is All right, fine. We’ll talk. Okay, we’ll do it. We tried. I mean, I’m You guys said the Simons thing and then Bobby’s like, “What’s your solution?” I don’t I don’t know what we’re talking about. The Simons thing is every time he goes in, he goes nuclear and scores a zillion points and then something happens and he gets taken out of a game. Whether whether it’s whether it’s whether it’s a mistake he made or Joe just saying like, “All right, I’m done with you. I’m going with the guys I like and trust.” Missoula’s commentary about him after the game is still talking about him like, “I need him to be more. I need him to be more.” What’s What are we missing here? What is Simons doing that doesn’t have Joe’s trust? What what happens in a game where Simons is your entire offense and leads you to a a a nine-point lead or an eight-point lead or whatever it is and the second he comes out, everything goes tanks again. You lose the lead in like two minutes. And then after the game, before the game at the shoot around, you guys are there. You’re asking him and he’s like, “I don’t know. It’s a battle. I’m trying to figure it out.” Joe’s talking about him being aggressive and I left him in because I thought he played good tonight, but sometimes not. What what’s going on here? Like he he’s in a weird place. You know, as Sherrod very simply put it, he’s definitely not in Joe’s circle of trust, but it it’s hard to fathom, you know, what what the what what’s going on there with with him. That’s the way to describe it. I think that’s perfect way to describe it. But I want you guys to describe the show. All right. See you cuz you’re you’re there. You’re talking to these guys. Here’s the thing. Here’s the thing. Simons has been incredibly efficient. like he’s one of the top catch and shoot shooters in the NBA right now. I saw a graphic, hopefully that was an accurate graphic I saw on Twitter this morning. um he has been a great instant source of offense and he’s now had multiple times this season where he single-handedly cuts cuts the deficit or you know pushes the Celtics ahead and like I think microwave score I mean that’s literally the best way to describe what we’re seeing with him where in a three-minute period he’ll score 12 points and completely kind of turn the trajectory of the game and that’s a valuable thing and especially with this team they’ve been one of the worst offenses all season by total points and some other metrics passing assists whatever That being said, like and again, I know everybody here thinks I have a Patriot agenda. I don’t. I, you know, have high aspirations for him, but whatever. But my point is, if you watch him on the defensive end, and I really don’t like singling out players, but I I do rewatch all these games, and I particularly rewatch these games for specific things. He’s being hunted on every single defensive possession, and I think he’s trying really hard, and I think he’s getting better, but he’s a massive liability on that end. He still is. And when you go back and rewatch the Orlando game, throughout his heater, I rewatched it today. Throughout his heater where he scored 25 points in one half, he was getting torched on the other end. Like he just was. And that’s not and I don’t and I don’t again I don’t like calling guys out for their own, you know, individual thing like this, but that’s what I’m seeing when I’m watching the game. And so I’m assuming that’s what Joe is seeing. I maybe he’s seeing something different. Maybe it’s not as specific as that. But I think that’s that’s the tug-of-war between we have a gifted scorer here, but we have a guy who’s also a liability defensively that for years now his defensive metrics have indicated that and when we’ve talked to him about it, like it’s something that he’s getting at. And I think that in a few months like he might be at a better place and should should they just play through it because of what he can give you offensively? I don’t know. Maybe they should. I’m like I wouldn’t be shocked if Joe tries him in the starting lineup. I wouldn’t be shocked if he plays more minutes in a few months or they kind of figure they they try to change something up. But that’s I don’t think there’s really much of a mystery here. I don’t think Joe hates him or he has a bias against him. I think it’s just that like how much are you willing to give up on the defensive end with his size. He doesn’t have like a strong base. So a lot of times he has to foul when he there’s mismatches and so if they get a bigger guy on him. There’s been a lot of and ones. There’s been a lot of just fouls in general. Um and it’s just a hard thing for the team. other teams are just completely going at him every time down the court and that’s that’s the trade and he might be a gifted enough score where it doesn’t matter there’s lots of guys Steph Curry right is a guy that teams go at and it doesn’t matter right but I think right now that’s the discussion that Joe is probably having internally is that is it is it fair I mean again it’s like you know that’s that’s what I don’t get is it’s you’re you’re playing guys who give you nothing offensively because it it feels like it’s really a choice. You know, you you you ride out like you you’re better with him on the floor tonight. You were better with him on the floor. You’re better with him on the floor last game. Couple games ago, we we said, “Hey, they were better on the floor with Walsh and with Ugo.” And so they write they wrote it out because we’re not worried about offense or defense. We’re worried about results. Is what’s he a team high plus 12 tonight? Yeah. Is what’s happening on the court now good? Okay. So, the other night the energy that Ugo and and and and Walsh brought was was good, but they’re not giving you offense. They’re just giving you defense. Is anybody saying like, “I can’t play those guys because offensively they’re not good enough.” No, we’re only lauding their defensive. A little different though, but it’s it’s different. John, it is a little different, but again, it’s like he’s it was still a hot hand. You were getting results from that combination when Simons was on the floor tonight. you were getting results from having him on the floor, not from the team, specifically from him carrying the team offensively. It was valuable. And then you’re like, I’m good with this now. I’m going to go to my defensive lineup and it cost you. So like it it’s what why are we always focused on what a guy can’t do when their primary skill is offense where we’re less focused on what a guy can’t do when their primary skill is defensive and re defense and rebounding. I think you can hide on offense in a way where you can’t hide on defense. Ugo can you can’t hide on offense when the team scores 30 points in the half. You know what I mean? Is that was not I don’t think that’s because of not because of him. But what I’m saying is it’s indicative of a team that can’t score as they can as they can. Yeah. If you’re able to cheat and you know focus on Brown and White because you’ve got Ugo and Walsh out there and Kada, that’s a problem. Now, yeah, I’m never going to question Noah her basketball IQ is like 100x minus, but correct me if I’m wrong. The Celtics took Simons out of the game in the fourth quarter and immediately Philly went on like a 100 run or something close. Completely took retook the lead. Kind of took the momentum back from that game. That had nothing to do with Simons being out there on the court. And then I also believe in the last few possessions, Simons went back into the game late, wasn’t it? Walsh on Maxi late in that game with Simons out on the court with Simons out there as well, wasn’t he? So they’re not always hunting Simons. They’re just not like there’s ways for Simons to play to be in these games in situations where offense is needed and for him to not be a complete liability defensively. And we see guys, by the way, yeah, but real quick, shame on the Celtics if it’s that easy for them to, you know, negate Simons. If the opponent can just get Simons out of the game that easy, Missou’s got to figure out a way to make that not be a problem, right? I mean, every every team that’s what I don’t get is we’re we’re a little bit stuck in what the Celtics were. And the Celtics were a team where everybody could play off at could defend and score and shoot. It’s they’re not that. So, you’re going to pick every team in the NBA has one to two defensive liabilities on the court at all times. It’s just how gifted are they at the other aspects of the game. You you’re he’s a very gifted scorer. It’s really bizarre that the standard here to play for the Celtics is you can’t defend, you can’t play. I don’t know that that’s the mentality in every other market or every other city. Everybody’s got, it’s not just Steph or Trey Young. Everybody’s got guys who are like, “This guy can’t defend a Maxi.” I mean, there’s plenty of guys who you’re like, “This guy, I can hunt this guy all day.” The Celtics made a living every single night on hunting somebody in the in the opposing starting lineup. Some teams would have two defensive liabilities out there. It’s baffling to me that Simons on this team can’t play based on offense alone and we’re only going to fixate on the fact that he’s not that he’s not great at defense. That’s what I don’t understand. I feel like it’s everywhere. So Noah, go ahead. You are talking about I jumped in on Noah. Go ahead. Yeah. No, it’s fine. I mean, listen, he played 26 minutes tonight. I think people probably would have wanted to see him what? Play five more minutes. Like, is that is that what we’re talking about? It was when they took him out, not that they took him out. like the fourth quarter minutes in particular. Yeah, I would say so. And that’s what stands out tonight, I think. You know, I mean, yeah, Brunson’s another example. I mean, it’s there’s every team has these guys, you know. Yeah. Their problem down the stretch to me where this has happened either. Sorry, Bobby. Their problem to me is that they were going back and forth down the stretch. Like, you do have to pick a lane in the last five, six minutes of a game and stick with it. like they threw him out there with two minutes left in a tough situation after he had sat for four minutes after they tried to go back to Pritchard in that situation. So that was what I was trying to get a feel for, you know, with Joe after the game is like why they were going back and forth between those two a little bit. Tonight it got to a point and I know like maybe this is magnified because we’ve been talking about it so much and it’s it’s become such a conversation but in the first half they put him out there alone and you mentioned this John without Brown without White just to go and shoot and run plays and do everything by himself with that bench unit which as we’ve mentioned has really struggled because there just isn’t a ton of offensive depth on this team. So he was in a tough position where he was just taking tough shots, missing over and over again. It was a difficult stretch. And you know, there were some passes in this game that looked good from him. There was the stretch in the second half you mentioned there where he takes over. And I do feel like regardless of whatever mistake or two that he makes there, you do have to ride that in a game like this where he’s plus 12 where the game’s swinging in your direction. My problem isn’t that he’s being tough on the defense. My problem isn’t that he’s a three behind Pritchard and White. Like I think that’s where he deserves to be. That’s where I’ve, you know, said that they should be with the rotation since training camp. Um because I think Pritchard and White on the whole have just played better than him this year. But why play better than him this year? Because he’s got like he’s got a ridiculous assist to turnover ratio. The defense has been better. the two-point shooting’s been like out of this world. Like he on the whole has been better than Simons. But in a situation like this, if he is playing better down the stretch, the rationale, and I’m not saying this is the rationale from Joe, but I do think he’s gone to this mindset before is White’s been here, Pritchard’s been here, we know who these guys are, we know what they do, let’s just go with them. And I don’t know, no, you might I don’t know if you agree or disagree there, but I do think that’s a significant deciding factor in how they’re using those three guys. They know White, they know Pritchard, they trust those two guys. There isn’t the trust and knowledge in what Simons is going to do. Possession of possession here, fair or not, that’s just how Joe feels. Okay, that’s it. She’s speechless. Oh, is this what did I was I supposed to respond? I mean, I listen, I said my part. I think I think Simons is a very talented scorer. I think that he has made progress on the defensive end, but I was mostly responding to the like what’s the mystery here with him? Like I don’t think there’s really much of a mystery. I think that’s that’s the trade-off. And but I’m asking like should there be some tradeoff possible between him and Pritchard? Yeah. And I think that you saw that in the fourth quarter. Like I think they were going back and forth like you know should he have played the six minutes more than Pritchard played? Should it have been 31, 26? I don’t know. I guess just that’s not really how my brain thinks about these things. Like maybe that would have helped them. Maybe it would have hurt them more. Like it’s not like a that’s not like a pivotal question to me. But listen, maybe that would have maybe that would have made all the difference in this fourth quarter. To me, it’s just that’s what Joe is balancing. And I do think he’s a pretty defensive-minded coach. If you look at what the identity of this team has been so far this season, they’ve been an elite half court defense and he has come into camp saying that that’s where they’re way ahead. And I think that’s where he wants to be. And so that’s just that’s what it is. And maybe he’ll maybe he’ll look at the numbers in two weeks and say, “Listen, you know, we’re going to have to live with it because you teams like you guys said, there are lots of players in the NBA that teams live with it.” But you have to look at what is the offensive gap between the players that you’re discussing. And it’s not just Pritchard. I mean, there’s Pritchard minutes, there’s some Derek minutes. It’s probably mostly Pritchard, but you have to look at what is the offensive gap, how much more efficient, how much better has Anthony been than Peyton on the offensive end. What’s the defensive gap been? because again like people have here are saying it’s not like Peyton portrait is the best offender in the world and just balance that and I’m sure that’s an ongoing conversation that they’re having all the time but I I just I I don’t want the story to be like that is the that is the story of this game because I just don’t think that it was and I don’t think that it’s been this like massive question this season the way that it’s been framed and I I get that it’s just going to be the nature of like where we go with things. It’s just that’s not what I’m thinking about when I’m watching watching these games. I I I think it’s unquestionably a major storyline of this season because again, you’re just looking at a team that doesn’t have a lot of high-end talent and he brings something he brings a level and like I said is he brings an elite skill set that other people don’t possess. So, what would you want to see, John? I just you got it’s again the onus is on Joe to figure it out. There’s plenty of people that figure out ways to hide defensive liabilities out there so you can tap into the goodness for it. It’s not that it’s it’s pretty normal uh throughout the league. So to me, it’s just it’s it’s less about Okay, I’m not like the bench Pritchard. If you want to if you want my honest opinion, I think I think Simons is probably a 10 to 15% better overall offensive player, maybe slightly more, and Pritchard is probably a 10 to 15% better defensive player. Like it’s some it’s pretty close to a wash. I’m saying there should be some interchangeability there. It’s close. It’s so close. It’s not I the people who are like it’s definitely this guy and it’s definitely that guy. It is ridiculously close. They both do things well. It’s not even that. Um you’re just in a weird spot because it again I keep bringing up the Brogden smart white thing. It’s less about that. You got three guards but you got problems elsewhere and you can’t play three guard lineups when you have no front court. It’s complicated. So, it’s there’s not an easy solution for it. I’m saying if we’re riding hot hands, tonight was a failure in that regard. That’s that’s all there. But when they talk about him, Joe talks about him as if he’s not where I want him to be. There’s more like he’s not getting there’s more there’s more dissatisfaction in just the way that he’s spoken about that. I’m wondering what is it that they’re not that isn’t clicking for him, for Joe, from them behind the scenes. That’s what I mean about the Simons issue, not like he should be playing and not this guy. I’m not I’m not saying that at all. It’s I think there’s three factors. Joe Joe’s hemming and hawing a little bit about it and yeah, well, I I want him to be more this I want him to and tonight I thought he was and this and that. He’s obviously not answering the bell fully. And maybe as Noah put it earlier, it’s as simple as he’s just not a good defender. I think it’s directly comparable to the Schroer situation. like he does things and his skill set is built around a game that they’re not interested in going down that road. You know what I mean? Cuz like, you know, I keep saying in the chat like, “Oh, he led and you’re going to run him out of town like you did Schroeder.” Well, that’s, you know, that’s what I was just going to get to here is he’s probably not a long-term part of the franchise’s plans here. So, you are going to prioritize to some degree the guys who are here. Not that that’s guiding Joe’s coaching philosophy here, but that what level is Yeah. I mean, organizationally, White’s going to be here. Pritchard’s probably going to be here long term. I I mean, is there any chance Simons is on the team next year? I don’t know. You seem more bullish about it than I do. I don’t even think he’s going to be on the team necessarily by the trade deadline. So, again, if if you want to look at it that way, I’m not spending my time on this guy, you know, and I’m I’m looking to dish him anyway, which I think they were in the preseason, then screw it. I don’t care. But, um, we can get off this combo because we’ve done it a lot. Noah, what else did you uh think was worth talking about from tonight’s game? Um, I think the first half honestly was like a massive shooting slump across all fronts, layup, airballing layups, mid mid-range shots, corner threes, like it was not uh they settled for threes and just missed stuff. It was like lit on the basket guys really struggling on that front. And I was honestly impressed that they were even within 10 and because they it felt like they had no business being that game. They were shooting like 27% from the field at one point. Um the thing that’s been encouraging is I thought this whole season was going to be about rebounding which was from a viewer standpoint incredibly boring to see a team just lose night after night because they can’t get a rebound. So it’s been fun to see that go away as a massive problem. I mean obviously the last play of the game is symbolic of that early season issue, but they outrebounded the 76ers in this game and overall just been trending upward. So that’s just something that I’ve had my eye on. I think the on the flip side, Jack asked Joe about this postgame, but their whole MO has been forcing turnovers and that’s what made them so successful the other night against the Magic and they weren’t able to do that to the XM extent tonight and part of that is they have two, you know, they have some elite guards and Tyrese Max, he’s an elite player and I continue to think like every time the Celtics play in, he’s just killer. Um, but they were not able to force the turnovers that they have been able to for many games this season and I think that was one of the things that ultimately hurt them in this one. Um, and then just down the stretch, it’s just like there’s just a lot of mistakes right now. And I tried to get out this with some of the players, my questions. I don’t think I really got anywhere with it. But I don’t know how much of it is just like it’s basketball and mistakes happen. And how much of it is you have Jordan Walsh and Mia Kada, two guys that two years ago I was covering them in the main Celtics. Like that’s the that’s the reality, right? Like these guys was very uncertain if they were ever even going to play in the NBA. And now here they are closing out games. Like you have to imagine that that’s making punch time execution even more difficult. And honestly, tonight wasn’t on those guys. But I know. I was just going to say like that’s the weird part tonight is it was the veterans who who fell short. For sure. Yeah. But I think like like that’s that’s what you’re seeing. I mean this team is in every single game. And I know their record’s not good, right? What are they five and seven now? But they’re they’re battling to the end in every single game. Like they’re right there. So from a roster construction standpoint, like I think they have enough to compete. I don’t know if people want to see them compete or not. I mean, honestly, for a lot of people here, this might be the best outcome where they’re competing in every game and they’re showing some signs of development and they’re losing. Um, and that’ll be good for their lottery odds and all that, but to me, like you’re they’re kind of like what I thought they would be. They’re just not they’re just not closing out games really at all. They’ve had like two crunchtime wins all season long, and feels like every night they’re dropping games that are right there. Yeah. All right. Um, yeah. Yeah, they will compete all season. barring injuries, they’re going to be here all year. Um, I think that that’s a fact because again, the middle class of the NBA is of the Eastern Conference is so vast that they can compete with basically every single team in the East. I They really can. So, I’m not super concerned. I think they will stay competitive. What are you looking some help here with some guys that we thought would be complete non-factors? They’ll compete. They’ll compete all year. If they they have injury luck, they’ll be in the mix. It’ll be frustrating at times, but they definitely have enough and there’s just not enough big-time teams. Uh, we are going to end this on the biggest news of the NBA day today. Good. And that was the Dallas Mavericks fire GM Nico Harrison. Uh, here. It could be worse, Celtics fans. It could be much, much worse. You could be a Mavericks fan. By the way, I’ve seen what’s queued up this entire show and I almost deleted it, but I’ll play ball. Yes. Yeah, I almost deleted it and then caused all technical difficulty. Omit scrambling. I don’t know who else we had on Bailey, but I said, you know what? We could use a laugh at the end of the show. Yeah, we had legit. I’ve been waiting for this all day. I’ve all day. So, so dumb people like Jimmy and me were like, “That’s the worst trade I’ve ever seen.” Double trade. Luka is so good. He scores. scores more points, you know, and you know, we’re we’re we’re not sophisticated in our basketball team. We don’t see anything. Why are you saying this like we’ve like I’ve ever said that about you guys? It sounds like you’re projecting your own self opinions. You don’t have to say it. Okay. We already know. Mhm. I know. I know my part. Um and and but the smart guy, the smart kids in the room had a different take. We’ll start with uh we’ll start with uh this was the these are the well actually kids we’ll call them. Well actually actually when I tweeted this well happy anniversary. I do think everyone’s getting caught up in Dallas not getting additional trade filler. Uh any Anthony Davis probably the best player in the NBA they could have feasibly acquired for Luca. Top five and a bottom tier. There’s that defense. They can’t play guys who can’t play defense. Luka Don basically unplayable uh is what we learned here uh right now. And Davis is top 10 overall and top 10 on defense. So that must be cruising. Noah Noah was more like is it is it cra and in defense they walked it back pretty quick. Is it crazy to say I think the Mets won the trade? Um I don’t know. I guess you could answer that question. What’s even crazier is that you got a thousand likes on that tweet. You know what’s even crazier? That I got 800 death threats on that tweet as well. So, I think announcement just fine, Jimmy. Yeah, I think legs are just like they’ve continued just like the fire and eco chance have continued. I get that tweet sent to me every week and it is a point of pride that I have not deleted it because I have been so tempted so many times. Well, we’re glad you didn’t delete it either, but we have something to add to it. John, do you want to hit him with it or No, I don’t have anything else. Uh, I Well, yeah. It’s called It’s one of my favorite segments that we do. Oh no, I don’t want I can apologize everybody. Oh, it’s the Bobby and Noah show for the apology. Cam, you go first. Well, I don’t want to share this apology with you, but first of all, the first thing I’ll say is I think that when I when the Luca trade happened a couple months after the finals, and I talked about this with a few people today because we were actually in this building in Philadelphia, the day after the trade, asking players what they thought. To me, I was so low on Luca after the finals that I was like, there’s no way that this is a winning player. There’s no way this guy’s ever going to work out. And I was like, I can see the vision. you know, they had Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis. I also had a completely inaccurate take on what Max Christie was going to become. I thought he was going to be what Austin Reeves is now. So, I was like, he’s gonna blossom and Anthony Davis is going to be great and they’re going to be a great duo. Um, and then I went back and honestly like probably an hour after I tweeted that, like the Luca playoff run was great. It was just that final series. It was so hard to believe in him as a player having just covered those five games. Um, but that was it was it was a bad take. I apologize. No, she said it. She did it for me. I mean, the biggest thing for me is the defensive piece I was wrong about. And John’s going to love to hear that. Like I thought that they could reform, rebuild around a defensive identity and just be able to be as effective as before. Like that to me was the whole thing there. Like Davis to me defensively was as good as Luca was offensively. So making that tradeoff there to me wasn’t the craziest thing in the world. But there were three things I overlooked. Obviously Davis is hurt all the time and that’s what happened there. you weren’t going to have enough in the back court aside from Kyrie. He goes down and now you have nothing. And then I I’ll say this too just on this general story here like it did lead to them getting flag but the fact that the GM has like said fortune favors the bold on getting flag there. Like that’s where it really went off the rails for me. Like are we being serious about this here? What’s actually happening? And then obviously they couldn’t rebuild around what they had left there. So, well, a big factor though, John, that you have to admit is that the trade motivated Luca to get where he needed to go. Like he is another level beyond what we’ve saw from him in the past physically. And so, so give Nico a little credit for that. A little credit for that was inevitably going to be a byproduct of that. What’s funny, I’m glad you guys Good apologies, by the way. You know, very good apologies. Big people to apologize for anything. What’s shocking to me, what I will say that’s shocking to me is all these months later, you’re still respectfully missing what made it a bad trade, which was they should have gotten 75 first round draft. That’s where I disagreed. But how are we missing that? That’s exact. How are we missing that? Meaning because we’re still talking about the basketball aspect of the trade, which was the No, I mean, obviously obviously that was the most criminal part of this is that he should have gotten But Bobby was my pick was about the it was right. Yeah, Bobby. I thought the return was so like I didn’t care about draft picks. I thought Davis was a great piece and I was wrong about that. So that’s again we’re still we’re still there. Noah’s got it. Separate apology. We’ll get there later. But like that was the point is if you decided for what whatever reason you think Luca was a jerk, you thought you didn’t trust that he’d ever get fit. Say it’s a Zion situation or whatever. It’s like, yeah, extreme talent, but I’m just I don’t want to be in this business because once I sign this extension, what’s he gonna do? Gain 30 more pounds, you know, never show up in shape and I’m just going to deal with I don’t want to deal with it. If they decided they wanted out of the Luca business, that’s fine, but call another team like, right, right, every team would have would have every team would have put an offer in much much much much much much more. So, that was the criminal part of it. But I do I personally feel for Mavericks fans. I’ve seen, you know, in our time in Boston, we’ve seen some trades where you lose people like and you’re like, “Wait, what?” Like we’ve seen, you know, on the Bruins side, they traded Thor Joe Thornton a number one pick, Tyler Sean a number two overall pick with crappy returns. You’ve seen Mookie Betts go and you feel like as a fan, you’ve been robbed. Tom Brady go. Sure. But I mean, Brady at least was at the end and you got so much out of it. Mookie Betts was in his prime. Those other guys get out of Brady leaving six Super Bowls. Oh yeah, I thought you mean him leaving. He’s 40 at that point. You could have said you got as much out of it as you could. He had a couple years left. But even still, this to me makes me physically sick. And I’m not even I don’t care at all about the Maverick success. This feels This feels like they had something stolen from them. And I don’t know how you could ever recover here. Like I just from a business standpoint, I mean, how much money have they lost just marketing wise, saleswise, and just on a global standpoint, it just it it sense, right? And that’s where like I don’t know what you said specifically, Noah, but I said at that time, you can’t trade Luca, but if you’re going to X, Y, and Z, and then I said everything from there. Like was that your sentiment? Then I said all the wrong were you okay with them? Yeah. No, I think one of the things that I’ve like where I’ve changed my view over the past year is that just franchise players in general, as flawed as they are, like you don’t really trade them because of the connection with the city, all of that. Like relative to other people, I’m probably in the bottom 5% of a Luca Donuch fan as far as just to the way that he has played. And even still, like the last year has demonstrated to me just like how valuable that kind of player is, right? even if it’s not your cup of tea. So, I thought Anthony Davis was instrumental to the Lakers championship. Like I thought this is a guy that if he can stay healthy all that, but honestly like maybe the most criminal part of all this is that Anthony Davis was not going to stay healthy. Like he is an aging player who has had a ton of injuries and Kyrie Irving is an older play, you know, an older player as well. Like that’s that’s a part of it as well that I think maybe my my 12:40 a.m. reaction did not uh quite take into account. And and can I just say this because like ownership like they’re doing a victory lap here because they fire him. I’m sure you know writing the letter and all that. Like ownership is fully to blame because they could have said no. You don’t make a trade like this without ownership blessing. Ownership 100%. Ownership owns this more than Nico. Nico had a bad idea. It’s the owner’s job to tackle him and say, “Nope, we’re not doing that.” So, and when you let it happen, there’s a there’s a line there’s a scene the the movie casino when they catch one of the guys uh in the pit or they sees some scam where some of the things are hitting there and Dairo fires a guy. He’s like, “Either you were in on it or you were too stupid to know that you were getting took. Either way, I don’t want you here anymore.” This is exactly the ownership situation. like you were part of it or complicit or ordered the code red or you’re too stupid to realize it was the dumbest thing anyone could ever do and you allowed it to happen. So ownership you can’t owners can’t fire themselves, you know. So, you know, the the axe falls on Nico, but the owner is 1 million% to blame for allowing this to happen. Anyway, um that’s it. We just wanted we wanted to we wanted to throw those out there. We forgive you guys, but Nico Harrison and Mavs owners, they could truly never be forgiven. If you’re a Mavs fan, they can never be crazy. I mean, you never get also the way that they approached the the post trade thing to me might have even been worse than the trade. Like, the way that they talked about it, I I think the Nico Harrison’s press conferences was one of the worst press conferences I’ve ever seen in any sports, politics, whatever. And so, I think there’s there’s that. And then there’s also like you pretty much did did a a master class on how to like disrespect a fan base and lose a fan base, which is the way that they handled it. They had private conversations with some reporters, but not all big reporters. Can you imagine there was a like Brad Stevens is sitting half of our beat down in a room and not the other half and saying stuff. Just the whole thing was just a disaster. So that’s the that’s the stuff that all we’ve seen things like that in Boston media. But anyway, really I’d like to think you guys would be part of the Brad Stevens. There was one time Kurt Schilling one year, Kurt Schilling one year, this was actually a lot of fun back when like media was competitive and like we were trying to chase stories and get the story instead of like everybody like sharing and transcribing things for each other and like being like kumbaya. It was like competitive. I want this shot. I want this interview. I got to get this guy. Crazy competitive. And Kurt Schilling would come off competitive. I you know I am saying is everybody we get along. Everybody’s not like it it was I feel like more cut and and even before then even more cutthroat you know like Jack like Jack Edwards would tell a story about how he got in a car crash chasing Bob Lobel trying to get to a story because Lobell had a scoop on him and he was following was tailing Lobell in a car but anyway Schilling showed up to uh spring training and it was like the socks wanted him to have surgery he didn’t want to have surgery blah blah blah and this and that after the bloody sock situation and he hands selected four media he would talk to and like was like where he was hiding where in the building he would go talk to these people around the outside and we were like where’s it going to be and we were all trying to figure it out. Uh you were invited. You weren’t selected. We were not we were not invited. I remember I remember Lynchie was like there and he was like what the hell? You know he picked he picked his friends. He shut out one of the two papers. I can’t remember which one it was and then had like two other friendlies on board. Yeah, byebye globe as uh as as Carl Everett would say. Anyway, um that’s it. We’ve gone on long enough. Celtics lose to this one. Nico Harrison is fired. Uh which, you know, nobody particularly cares about Gro is signing a one day. Grock is signing a one day to retire a picture tomorrow. We’ll be there tomorrow to cover that. CLS, we will be there tomorrow. Again, subscribe to the Garden Report on the CLNS media network. Sign up, you know, subscribe to all of our YouTube channels. Turn on the notifications uh so you’ll be notified when we have a new video which is often uh make sure you keep it here. You’ll have a Noah Dzel podcast coming tomorrow. You got Boston finding positives out of this game and there were quite a few leading with Jordan Walsh. There’s no question about that. After this show I need the podcast even more than usual. It’s cleansed. I’m like I some shows I’m like I need to cleanse my soul and I’m on that and this is one of those. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, we’re sorry. We’re sorry for us for being who we are. The longer you make us wait, the surier we get. Okay. When when you when you get here at like the 57 minute mark, the players, we’re fro we’re frothing at the mouth. Um, couple quick shout outs once again to our to our sponsors. Prize Picks, number one daily fantasy sports app in all of North America. Pick more, pick less. It’s that easy. Download that app today. Use code CLNS. Get 50 in your lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. Prize picks. It’s good to be right. And if you want to get in on some stakes now or for the holidays, go to omahastakkes.com. Use the code Patriots at checkout by Noah. Yeah, use the code Patriots at checkout. Uh terms do apply. $35 off at checkout. Uh when you do that, we’re going to bring Noah back here for the goodbye. Code Patriots. Goodbye. Code Patriots. That’s it uh for us on the Garden Report. Again, thank you guys for hanging out here as the Celtics lose. They drop to five and seven. They are currently outside of the playin window, but again, it is super early and they’ve got some cupcakes coming up on the schedule. There’s a game tomorrow, huh? No, there’s a game tomorrow. Yeah, there is. So, Oh, I refuse to be part of that. There’s literally a game tomorrow. Is anyone gonna watch this show? There’s another one in 12 hours. Where? TD Garden. Oh god, the players are probably already home. Honestly, they are. You’re actually right. They’re probably already in Boston. There’s nothing like it than when I when I catch wind of everybody being home and I’m still at the arena in the away city. It’s happened like four times now. Guys, we have to stay on for 40 more seconds because we’re about to hit the 2our mark. Amit just texted, “Why is this show longer than Star Wars?” I I don’t know. We We just We just went We got We got carried away here. So, 30 more seconds here. See if there’s any comments. Not Simon’s anger just kept us going through this one. Hey Bl, you’ve been pretty quiet, but we appreciate it. The official Blurp chiming in. Thank you. Official it says now. I guess there’s been some posers out there. Do you guys have any ideas for positive takeaways I should talk about? Yeah, your guy that you probably do on him alone. F Garza first half Garza. Okay. Yeah, Garza didn’t get I think that’s the first time we mentioned Garza. I think was really good too, I thought tonight. And and Derek White uh found a little bit of his rhythm there with some of his shots. And I’m going to say Anthony Simons. He was he was clearly How about this? Noah, if you want Noah, if you want a different um take on Simons, Simon’s passing tonight, I thought was outstanding. I turned to them and I said that today. I thought that his passing last couple passing was really a good point. Simon’s passing was outstanding tonight, which is a cool element to his game. This little bounce pass into the paint that I like. Yeah, if you don’t want to be right, if you’re going to be a one-dimensional player and you’re, you know, offense over defense, it’s better if offensively you could do more than just score. So, it was nice to see him distributing a little. So, I’ll give you, we’ll do that one, too. Anyway, we’ve passed two hours. Good night, everybody. See you. [Music]

The Philadelphia 76ers edged the Boston Celtics 102-100 on Tuesday night. The Garden Report goes LIVE right after Celtics vs. 76ers with CLNS Media’s Jimmy Toscano, A. Sherrod Blakely, John Zannis, Noa Dalzell & Bobby Manning! The crew reacts to the loss, discusses what went wrong down the stretch, and debates why Anfernee Simons isn’t getting more minutes in Joe Mazzulla’s rotation.

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37:00 More on Anfernee Simons
50:19 More on Jordan Walsh
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1:10:00 Jaylen Brown’s worst game of year?
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