QB Guru: Tyler Shough Proves He COULD BE Saints Franchise QB? | How Can He Repeat Success After Bye?

QB Guru: Tyler Shough Proves He COULD BE Saints Franchise QB? | How Can He Repeat Success After Bye?

[Music] Uh glad to have Sean Salsbury with us, especially on this day where the Saints got their second win of the season and did so by an incredibly impressive performance by Tyler Shuck on a day where you traded away Rasheed Shahed. You were down three offensive linemen and he went on the road and looked the part even if for a day. Okay, Sean. Um Tyler Shuck second start gets the win. First Saints rookie to get a win since 1981, man. Dave Wilson been a minute. So, okay, let’s just start here. What did you make of it? I was impressed with a lot of things about him, Matt. I One thing is his awareness when the pocket broke down. There’s a while he’s played a lot of college football. The the tendency is always early, the security blanket is not there. It happened early in the game. It happened later in the game, too. His awareness of being able to scramble out and find Johnson and then make the accurate throw. Is the head dips to watch the pass rush. Oh, first one breaks down, then he steps out of it, has the awareness to keep his head up and understand it. the presence of him around there to make off schedule plays when they weren’t there. That was one. Two is the big play was back. It looked I mean he took shots when they were there. I’m a big take judicious shots when they’re there because I’ve never met a quarterback that was any good over the long haul that was afraid to take shots. And when you’re getting that start, Maddie, the first thing that comes to your mind is protect the ball. I hate the message more than anything in the world having been a starter and a backup that when they these some coaches will go to the backup and say just don’t lose it for us. If you’re sending that message you shouldn’t play him. It should you go win it for us. Drive the bus. Take the shots when they’re there and be smart with the football. I cannot It’s one I’m telling you I I it makes me my head explode when I hear that message. Well, he’s the backup. We’re going to protect him a little more and we we’ll we’ll compress it. I get all that, but don’t don’t let your team know. You want them to know that your guy believes in it and they did a good job at that with with with this situation because there’s no worse message to tell it back within. Then he plays scared and gripping the ball too tight and all of a sudden he’s afraid to take the shot and when he does it’s desperate late. Pocket awareness was really good and the ability to extend plays. I was impressed he had that in him and you said it’s just for a day but that’s the only day he had and it was against a team that’s improving on the road. Phenomenal start by him. The big play was there on accurate chances. Hey, a lot of times too, you know how I am. Make me the simple boring play all the time and then when the spectacular chance is there, the deep go route down the right sideline, drop it in the bucket, 1 2 3 4 5 or 1, two, three hitch, get it up and drop it in there. Let them go do something with it. That’s why they’re athletes. That’s why they got those 80 numbers and single digit numbers. They can go score for you. And he did that. So he the chances were there. He took them. And then to scramble out and to hit the ball to the left in the in the second half. I mean, there was just something. And then he made a couple tight window throws that he set up, put the ball in his hand, put his foot in the ground and ripped it when he had a little zone and sitting down in the zone. And a great job by receivers to sit down and give him a window to throw to. So, his awareness for a guy because it’s easy to say, well, I got the job. I don’t want to lose it by making the mistake. And he didn’t make the big mistake. Did not make protected the football, but he also played aggressive and the home run was there. They looked I mean a lot of guys got involved and look what it did also the run game did enough and excelled with the with Chimera and so they were a two-dimensional football team if you hadn’t seen anything all year long but what you saw against Carolina you know what you’re saying to yourself the the NFC South they got a chance defense was really good they put it on them they they they didn’t give up a lot and on the they didn’t give up a lot of run after the catch and offensively They extended plays, made run after the catch, and when the home run was there, they hit it. And I love the boy, the ball came out of his hand. He didn’t look like a guy who was getting a road start against a pretty damn good team and an improving team. The result, it wasn’t just the potential of it. The result was good. You’ve you got the guy who’s going to play the rest of the season. Now, what that leads to in the future, who the hell knows? Yeah. Hey, do you look If I were to play devil’s advocate, they only scored 17 points. Yep. Is there are we overreacting considering the productivity? Was it because his stats were good but the on the scoreboard it didn’t necessarily manifest. Yeah. The one thing if it was if the final score would have ended up where they kicked two field goals and lost. Yeah. But 17 was enough. Yeah. And Carolas unfort they’re not the Saints this year. And remember you asked me last week, well can the Saints go win? I said, “Well, he’s playing with he’s playing short-handed, but of course, look around the league.” Yeah. All you got to do is watch the Miami Dolphins. He couldn’t beat couldn’t beat me and you in a fist fight, let alone a pillow fight. And they physically manhandled Buffalo. It’s crazy. So, of course, they can’t. But what they did, the result was that they fed off the quarterback’s energy. And that’s no disrespect to to Rattler. You know, I I I hold him in high regard. But you got to play the guy. And right now, we’ve been waiting to see what Chuck’s going to be about. And we saw it. Now, the hardest thing to be a starter in this league is when it’s your gig to go out and repeat. Expectations weren’t real high. It’s the Saints receivers’s gone, trading guys away. What are they going to do? The guy’s playing short-handed. And like a guy who has the flu, you don’t, you know, you go play kind of sick and you’re like, you let take the pressure off yourself and you’re like or or or injured. You’re like, damn, I’m flowing today. Because you’re not, you didn’t put all that pressure. And this one, it’s like, what did he have to lose? Just let it rip, man. And he did. And it’s it’s easier said than done, but yeah, you’d like them to get in 34, but man, I’m not Bangers can’t be choosy right now, Matty. I’m taking give me a couple touchdown passes the way they came. Of course, you’d like more, but we’re also not dealing with a hack team. Carolina’s pretty good. And they did enough to win. So, to me, I’d rather have a a 282 yard, two touchdown, protect the football, make some plays, win on the road. They’re tough to come by. Wins are as are the big numbers. Then a 450 yard performance where we still get beat because we play between the 20s and don’t get in the end zone. We kick field goals and lose. So, I’ll take it. And there was nothing ugly about it other than they didn’t close it out. But momentum’s a and I don’t even like game to game momentum. The confidence. Yeah. How can you not go into this week thinking, you know what, we we got another chance? That’s goes back to that energy we talked about. But he had energy and there was production on the end of it. It’s crazy, man. I mean, they head they head into their buy, but Sean, they come out of it and they play Atlanta twice. They get Carolina again in home. They play the Jets, the Titans, the Dolphins. Like, you look up and you go that win total over under five and a half. All of a sudden, you’re like, well, I mean, exactly. And name me one of those teams that’s I mean, they’re all beatable. One of those teams going in that you don’t feel that you can hand I mean, you like you mentioned Atlanta twice. Hell, the way Miami is, they they got one, but Miami is Miami. You can physically handle them. Um, you start to roll through it and you’re thinking, well, hell, why not us? So, yeah, man. I I uh was impressed with last. I’m trying to compartmentalize and not think about the other nine games or what have you and then what’s the head? Compartmentalize on the one performance like I try to do at this position because I know how difficult it is to be successful. But vet he he played he had some veteran moments in the game and he was not overwhelmed which to me is a really good start for a rookie quarterback. Did he look like it’s hard to ask, oh, what do you think the ceiling is when he’s made two starts and just had a win? But is there like stylistically or something that you would say, okay, well, here’s a comp of kind of just just sort of a range to suggest skill set. What what are we looking at here? Like is this a guy because Sean here, like here’s the way the conversation’s happening here. And you can’t know this through two games, but everyone’s wondering, all right, you have seven games left. Are they in April going to draft their franchise quarterback or can this can this actually be the guy they build around? Like, do you think there’s a there’s the potential in there that this could be the guy that they build around? AB, I absolutely do. And I thought it before he took a snap. What round they draft him in, Matt? It’s a rhetorical question. What round? He was Well, he was second, but he was the 40th overall pick. That’s what So, which for some that’s the 40 to 30 that, you know, to 32. Some consider that part of the the beginning of the second round, first round pick. My point is I’m not the only one who thinks it. When you draft a guy in the second round in the top 40 picks, you know what you’re telling me? Now, we draft a guy in the first five picks, we think he’s gonna put a gold Hall of Fame jacket on, right? Gonna be a star for 15 years. But when you draft a guy that high, you’re trying and they need other bodies. You’re telling your players and the franchise in the city, we believe in the guy or or you wouldn’t have drafted. You’d have said, “Well, let’s maybe we’ll somebody else may jump in, but maybe we can hold off a round to the third round or the fourth.” So, they think so, too. And listen, when you take a look at San Francisco, take a look at at at Brock Purie. When we start comparing when Brock Purie was drafted, people were just he was just trying to make a team, got a break, and now he’s $55 million a year richer and he’s not playing right now. So that that the comparisons are hard like you said on the early return, but do I did I see something that tells me he’s going to be a franchise quarterback? No. But did I see something that says they got a chance to use those that the draft pick that this could be the guy we we got to get out of not just you and I, but anybody get out of, well, he wasn’t a first round pick, so he can’t be a franchise quarterback. That’s BS. I hear it all the time. Montana, you I I don’t need to tell you with your history and knowing this or people that are listening, how many guys have become franchise quarterbacks that weren’t drafted eye and how many guys that have been busts that were picked in the first 15 that you said he’s a no-brainer, can’t miss. Well, three years later, Anthony Richardson’s a miss so far. Maybe somewhere else that Daniel Jones is going to be there forever. So, for me, and we buried Sam the Darnold, we buried Baker Mayfield, and both of those dudes are playing great football. So, I I personally, here’s what I saw. I saw off schedule stuff that impressed me. I saw some tight window arm enough to get and listen, if you’re throwing on time with accuracy, I don’t need Josh Allen’s arm. I need I need Drew Brees’s accuracy and I need anticipation and I need great leadership skills that elevates the building and elevates the players on the team. So, I saw enough to tell me this is why I drafted him. You’re damn right I did and let’s go see what happens. But I can tell you that you’re going to see a lot more in the next seven weeks considering they are still going to be the underdog more than likely in all of them. And so how they react to him and how he reacts may tell you everything you need to know. And I would encourage fans to see the forest through the trees. Don’t just look at the end result numbers, wins and losses, but how they improve and how he handles what’s going to be adversity. He’s going to knock in the mouth. Somebody’s going to sack him six times or five times and hit him 15 others in a game. How he responds. I’ll learn more about the f my franchise quarterback that way than I will, hey Sean, did you see he threw for 300 again and two touchdowns, but threw two picks, took five sacks, and the sacks were on him as opposed to on the offensive line because he held the ball too long. Look for the little things that tell you what you need to see. And right now, unless you if you watch Mendozley, that drive against Penn State’s pretty good. I’m not sure I see in other guys, Simpson, there’s some good ones that you say, I’m turning my complete franchise over to a guy right now. I still got some stuff I got to see between now and the offseason, and Shook gets their eye in their ear right now, which is a great thing for him. And he gets to do it without having 40 weapons that everybody says, “Well, he should play good.” If he plays good, that’s that’s a bonus times one because of the ability that he’s get making people around him better, which quite frankly they are still the cupboard’s still fairly bare when it comes to the number of weapons he has to work with. I kind of wish they had a game this week, man. I hope you and me when I said next week, I meant I knew they had to buy this weekend. I think he does too because of the it’s that feeling of damn when you’re going good. It’s like no, no, no, don’t make me wait. I want it to fester just for a few days so I get back out there and let it rip again. So hopefully he’ll file that away and will the team. But I’ll tell you the advantage for him is he gets time, more verbiage, more get audible checks, more trust from the staff and Kellen to say, “Hey man, he he played some football. Now we can here’s a run pass check with me. Maybe we can get this in and an extra week.” But I’m with you. I would like to see him urgent. Hell, I’d rather have him play tonight. I’ instead of college hoops, even though I love college, I’d like to see him play again right now. So it was a good start, though. And New Orleans should be excited about what’s next. Yeah, that was that was going to be my final question. Would you rather play again or do you like the buy? But we’ll have to wait and see. Saints, the hell with the buy when you’re going good. You want the buy when you’re getting your rear handed to you. As a quarterback, you’re saying no, no, no, no. You’ll be out there. You’ll be at home throwing balls around your living room because you say, “Man, I’m feeling it. I’m feeling it.” So, um, but the great thing about it is you get you also get the the feast off it. Just don’t get caught up in the listening to how good we’re talking about you. Just go about your preparation as always. and he he’s seen enough football to know what it’s going to take to be successful. He’s Sean Salsbury. Get him on Twitter at Seanun unfiltered. Make sure you subscribe to the YouTube channel. It’s unpaved there on YouTube. Unpaved Sean Salsbury if you want to give him a follow there. Subscribe to the channel on YouTube. All right, man. We appreciate it as always. Thank you. My pleasure, brother. Have a good one. Thank you. Thank you, man. Hey, thanks so much for watching. Please leave your comments. I love to interact. And be sure to hit the red subscribe button below. with you. After you. After you. [Music]

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Matt Moscona welcomes Sean Salisbury to break down the impressive second start for New Orleans Saints rookie quarterback, Tyler Shough, who became the first Saints rookie QB to win a game since 1981. Salisbury was impressed by Shough’s veteran-like awareness, his ability to extend plays, and his aggressive approach to taking “judicious shots” downfield—qualities that stand in stark contrast to the “play scared” mindset Sean vehemently criticizes. The discussion tackles the “protect the ball” message often given to backups, arguing that Shough’s success came from the staff telling him to “go win it” and drive the bus. While Shough’s 17-point performance wasn’t a statistical explosion, Salisbury concludes that winning on the road with a shorthanded team is what matters, not putting up big stats in a loss. They end by debating Shough’s long-term ceiling, with Salisbury encouraging fans to look for “little things” like his response to adversity over the next few games to determine if the 40th overall pick is the Saints’ long-term franchise quarterback.

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