Reacting to the Jets trading Sauce Gardner & Quinnen Williams!
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Guess I don’t need uh this shirt anymore. This one will be going to a Goodwill near you. I guess I don’t need this shirt either. We will see you later. Uh Garrett Wilson Sauce Gardner’s campaign for offensive and defensive rookie of the year. And then last but certainly not least, I guess I do not need this sauce gardener shirt either. So we will see you later. I I mean, wow. We did not see this coming. We talked about maybe a Breece deal, maybe a Quinnon deal, a Quincy deal. Germaine Johnson, Will McDonald, not the guy that the New York Jets extended before the season began. This is stunning. Can we start with that? This is a stunning, stunning trade. It came out of nowhere. There was no rumblings of this. There was no indication this was even on the table as being something that we would discuss. Stunning. I want to start with sauce because I have a lot of thoughts on this deal and what it means. And let’s be real. If you’re not watching live, it’s 2:00 p.m. Eastern time. Deadlines in two hours. Jets might not be done. But let’s start with Sauce. I wish him well. This guy came in and was a two-time first team all pro. He took pride in being a Jet. You ask non-Jet fans about the Jets, S would be the player they would know. He was a part of one of the best draft classes the Jets have ever had. I wish Sauce well. I really do. I think he wanted to be here. I think he’s a good dude. He was great with the fans. He was excellent with the media. They voted him the good guy award winner last year. I wish S Gardner all the best. I hope he plays well with the Colts because he’s a good dude. And apparently Sgardner had no idea that this was coming either. Ritz Samini spoke with S Gardner’s brother who’s also his agent and said that he learned about the deal at 12:15 and there was no inkling before that this was coming. Singing he has no negative feelings towards the Jets. He understands it’s a business. Unbelievable. So I wish S all the best. I want to say that because he was a really good player. We could debate how good he was. Is he overrated? The guy was a two-time first team all pro who wanted to be a Jet. Took pride in being a Jet. and I wish him well. As far as this trade, I I mean, my initial reaction, I was stunned. I was hosting a radio show today. I was filling in, ironically, for Bart Scott. Barton Carlin on who attended the Nick Mangled funeral today, which is why I’m rocking my Nick Mangle shirt. Thank you to Matt Ori for putting that together to raise money for the National KI Foundation. This was my initial reaction in real time. Look at my face. ESPN New York and on the ESPN New York app. Do we have something cooking here? Oh my Oh my lord. No. Holy crap. What? Holy crap. Ian Rapaort. 90 seconds ago. The Jets are trading Sauce Gardner to the Indianapolis Colts. Blockbuster. What? This is not. And this is the real Ian Rapaort. Diana Rsini now saying the same thing. The Jets are trading Sauce Gardner to the Indianapolis Colts. Sauce tweeted New York. It’s been real. What? I look like I saw a ghost. Now that I’ve had about 30 minutes since that to try and compile my thoughts, I understand the deal. I do. Right. you’re getting two first round picks for a guy that is a huge return. Sauce is still an excellent player, but when you get offered two first round picks for really anyone that’s not a quarterback, if we’re talking about an elite player, you have to think about it. This deal reminds me a little bit of the Jamal Adams trade where most Jet fans did not want Joe Douglas to trade Jamal Adams, but when you saw the return was two first round picks, you understood it. What’s complicated with this is you just extended Sauce Gardner. So, what I need to know is what happened from when you signed him long-term and Glenn, you referred to him as a foundational piece to now you’re dealing him, right? Is it just too good of a deal to pass up or is there something more? They obviously think Brandon Stevens recent play is sustainable. They paid him, they signed him, and after a bad start, let’s be fair, he’s looked a lot better. I thought AZ Thomas looked really good starting for Sauce against Cincinnati. They use a third round pick on him. Well, now he’s starting. So, they obviously think that they have enough corners on the outside to make up for not having sauce. You’re not going to replace S Gardner, but they think, okay, we have our long-term corners. They made the deal for Brownley and essentially replaced Michael Carter with that deal and then traded Carter last week. Brownley’s been excellent. So, they obviously like their corner room and felt like the value was too good to pass up. I’d imagine that’s the Jets thought process here. But what I need to know is, is there more to it? Is it just, hey, two first round picks for any non-c quarterback? You got to think about it because you called this guy a foundational piece and now you’re dealing them. And I understand we all love draft picks. I don’t know, man. You got to now hit on this pick. Do I like the idea of the Jets getting a second firstrounder? Absolutely. But it’s going to be at the end of the first round. I don’t think the Colts are winning the Super Bowl. So, right now, if you go to Tankathon, it would be pick 32. I don’t think it will be pick 32, but it’s going to be in probably the late 20s, pick 25 onward. Can you find a really good player there? You can. Would I love it if the Jets could turn this first round pick into a stud receiver for whoever they draft with their own first round pick a quarterback is throwing to? Yeah, but they now got a hit on that pick. You already knew what you had in Sauce and you paid them. So now there’s a big big risk with this deal. But I get the value. So I do see why they did it. I just want to know more. Is it because they have so much confidence in Stevens and AZ? Did Sauce all of a sudden not fit the type of team they wanted to be? I can’t think that is what happened here. Not after the way Glenn has raved about Sauce from the beginning. There’s just a lot we don’t know. From a value standpoint, yes, you got two first round picks for the guy. And let me mention this, getting AD Mitchell thrown in, who was a third rounder, who does have some talent and was in a crowded wide receiver room. I like the approach bringing him in as well. He’s a part of this trade. But man, there’s just so much we don’t necessarily know right now. And I’m just shocked. I’m shocked that a guy they paid and called a cornerstone, they dealt. And maybe the value was just too good to pass up. Everyone’s going to tell you how great the return is. I get it. I’m getting texts from people all day. Wow, what a deal. But now you have to replace the player. And I don’t know if I trust this regime at this point to necessarily replace that player adequately. Oh my god. Breaking news. Holy Oh my god. Breaking sports news on the show. Quinnon Williams has just been traded. Quinnon Williams to the Cowboys. saw us and Quinnon on the same day. We are tearing this thing down, aren’t we? Holy crap. Quinnon Williams traded. Breaking news from Adam Shfter just now. Ladies and gentlemen, this is about to be a long show. Smash the subscribe button. We usually talk Jets football year round for four hours a day. Who knows how long we’re talking today. Oh my god. first round pick and more. So, Dallas had two first round picks. Now, I said on the radio today, if we were going to trade Quinnon Williams, I need at least a first to justify it. They got a first round pick. They got a first round pick reportedly for Quinn Williams. Holy hell. Wow. Wow. Okay, so Quinnon dealt. Let’s see. I I mean, we are reacting right now in real time. You got to be kidding me. Quinnon Williams to the Cowboys. Breaking news. Quinnon to the Cowboys. Sauce Gardner being traded to the Colts. So much for the bye-week for the Jets, huh? We are always in the news, baby. Holy hell. Unbelievable. Quinnon Williams to the Cowboys. I got to see what the return is here. I mean, we’re blowing it all up. Is Bree gonna be here at this point? If you’ve already traded Quinnon and now you’ve traded Sauce, get something for Breece if he’s not going to be here. Everyone, if you’ve made the decision that this regime now gets the right to rebuild this team because obviously Aaron Glenn’s not going anywhere now. He probably could lose every remaining game the rest of the way and finish one and 16 and he’s not going to lose his job. If you make the decision that you were going to completely tear this down, what you’re doing when you trade away Quinn, who’s under contract for multiple seasons, and S Gardner, who didn’t even have his extension years kick in yet, and it wouldn’t kick in till after 2026, you’re blowing the whole thing up. So, if you’re blowing the whole thing up, then trade Quincy and get a pick for him. Trade Bruce Hall if he’s not in your plans and get something for him. I mean, we’re tearing this whole thing down. I I I mean, that’s what’s happening here. Holy hell. So much for the by-week. You got to be kidding me. I mean, look, the the Quinnon Williams being traded is not shocking given the last couple of days. There’s been a lot of rumblings that maybe he’s unhappy, maybe he wants to go somewhere, and I would understand that. And my thing was you have to get at least a first round pick. And Dallas is the team that gives you that. Fine. The Cowboys aren’t going anywhere. All right. What pick is it? I’d imagine it’s the Green Bay pick, right? Because Dallas right now, their own first round pick is pick 14, right? So, wow. We don’t know the the pick yet. Dallas is two first because of the Parsons trade there. It’s pick 14 and pick 24 right now for those who care. I’d imagine that it’s going to be the Dallas. It’s not going to be the Dallas pick. Wow. My head is spinning right now, folks. This is unbelievable. Unbelievable. If you’re watching live right now, make sure that you hit the subscribe button. We still got till 4. The Jets might not be done. Why would they stop here? Why would you stop here? You’ve traded Quinnon. You’ve now traded Sauce. Get all the first round picks. Unbelievable. Breaking news. Sauce traded two firsts and Adam and I Mitchell. Quinn and Williams traded. A first and then some. We don’t have the full return just yet. This is a landmark day in the history of the franchise. I mean, are you trading Germaine Johnson, too? Is he part of the the foundation? You’re tearing this. You You know what really bothers me? And look, the return for Sauce, obviously great. Quinnon Williams getting a first. You had to at least get that. This shouldn’t have been a full tear down. Didn’t need to be. But this team was so god awful this year. They were so horribly coached. Their head coach alone costing them several wins. investing $30 million all guaranteed in Justin Fields. Had to do it. Gonna coach him up, right? That got to a point where now like you could argue this is the right move, but it shouldn’t have gotten to this point because you you shouldn’t be one and seven right now. That’s my big thing. We’ll see what the return ends up being here. If you were going to move on from Quinnon, you obviously had to get a huge huge package back for him. Otherwise, why do it now? But just unreal. Unreal. In a span of two hours, the Jets just got rid of their two best defensive players. And look, the defense was terrible this year, but that to me had a lot to do with coaching. Crazy. All right, breaking news. Let’s talk about it. Let’s get to your calls. Uh we’re we’re not going to do the weekly raffle today. We will do that maybe tomorrow. I don’t know. But I got a bunch of super chats here. This is unbelievable. I’m going to stay on as long as we need to. were presented by FanDuel Sportsbook. Haven’t even checked what the line is on the next trade the Jets will make, but my god. And I thought today was going to be a quiet news day. I didn’t think the Jets would make any crazy trades. I didn’t think they wanted to blow it up. I thought they wanted to win games, build a winning culture. But now, forget that. This is a tearown. We are tearing this bleep down. Unbelievable. Let’s bring on my good guy, my good friend Dylan Tamman, who joins me now. Dylan, holy bleep. Breaking news. The Jets trade Woody Johnson to the moon. Like, what the hell, man? I mean, four hours ago, five hours ago, I’m sitting at work and I’m like, you know what could be a cool trade package for AD Mitchell to lowball from the Colts because he’s in the doghouse. I mean, yeah, great. Two first gardener. I mean, I don’t know. I’m I’m so all over the place with these trades. It looks like a first plus for Quinn and Williams. So maybe the return on that is fine if it’s the Cowboys natural pick because right now I think the Cowboys are not playoff contenders, but the Packers certainly are. So breaking news on the show. Ian Rapaort saying it is the Cowboys pick. So that that I mean that is that is big. Their Jets are getting the Cowboys first round. I mean that could be if the Cowboys suck that could be that could be a top 10 pick, right? Like, yeah, I don’t know what tank I like a lot right now. I I mean, you got you got the Cowboys pick, you got the Colts pick. So, now we’re going to be Jet fans and root against Dallas the rest of the year. We need Daniel Jones to turn back into Giants Daniel Jones the rest of the year like he was on Sunday against the Steelers. Uh, this is a monster monster news day. Wow. The I mean, they just they traded their two best defensive players in a span of an hour. Unbelievable. Yeah, this entire shelf is cooked. I mean, obviously Kobe’s not going anywhere because he’s passed and his legacy is solidified, but this football is signed by the the Williams brothers and this football card is Sauce Gardner’s uh autographed rookie card. So, that shelf is completely cooked. I have a Bree Hall mini helmet sitting right here waiting to be traded away in a couple hours because at this point, I agree with you, you might as well just trade everybody. Like, this this is actually, you know, disheartening because yes, I love having five first round picks in the first round over the next two years. I think all Jets fans love their draft picks. If there’s one thing we overrate more than our players, it is what we can get for our draft picks. The only thing I can say right now, Jake, is if they land their quarterback of the future, it doesn’t matter. And that is the only thing that is on my mind right now as a Jets fan is how can you use these to go get your quarterback and make it be the right quarterback, which is a very hard thing to do, right? You’re not guaranteed to hit on your quarterbacks. We’ve seen this time and time again. So, I’m very conflicted on how to feel. The Sauce Gardner one obviously came out of nowhere. His name was nowhere near trade talks and it seemed like he was blindsided by the trade when he got the call at 12:15 according to his brother um and his agent. I think that’s the same person. But it’s it’s it’s crazy day, man. I I tweeted I don’t want anybody gone before the 400 p.m. deadline. I want to just go quietly into that good night at 400 p.m. at the deadline and nobody’s gone. No talent is shipped away. Yes, we got some really great returns, but again, if you don’t hit on these picks, dude, it doesn’t matter. Like, it literally doesn’t matter. You need to go find your quarterback now. And that’s the only thing I can think of that’s going to make these trades look uh like wins for Darren Muji and Aaron Glenn. Hit the like button if you’re just tuning in. Breaking news. Quinnon Williams traded. We have an update on the return here. It’s all over the place what people are saying. All the insiders had different things, but now I’m seeing the Jets actually got a second this year for Quinn and then they got a first next year in the deal here. So, we got to get confirmation on everything. There’s a million things happening at once. So, stay with us here. We got over 2,000 of you watching live. Jets got the Cowboys second rounder this year and a firstrounder next year. That’s from Connor Hughes at SNY. I’m just seeing his tweet here. So, I mean, look, that’s still that’s still a lot for Quinn. That is still a lot for Quinnon. And also, if you’re one of the people texting me right now, stop. I know Quinn and Williams just got traded. All right, I know. You don’t need to tell me. My job is to talk about the Jets. I know what happened. God. Oh, I I I had to get that off my chest. This is insane. So, Cowboys second rounder this year, first year. We will be rooting like hell against the Dallas Cowboys all next year. Unreal. I mean, look, that’s a great return for Quinnon. I understand why they did it, but doing this end sauce, truly unbelievable, Dylan. Wow. Stunning. Yeah, I’m seeing Jay Glazer tweet now. Second this year, first next year for Quinn. If that’s confirmed that’s the case, then that’s great. It’s just like, what are we going to watch over the next eight weeks other than drafting, you know, draft highlights and cutups of of rookies that are going to be entering this team in 2026? I don’t know what there is to look forward to anymore for this season. And I get it. Like nobody wants to punt on a season, but this is a clear indication that they don’t care. They’re probably going to go 1-6 at this point. And I get it. Like they went 1 and seven with these guys. They can go 0 and8 without them down the back eight or whatever. But dude, this is this is a crazy day in Jets history. Um Sauce alone would have made it a crazy day, but Quinnon as well. Now we’re assuming, right? We can just assume five first round picks over the next two years and three second round picks over the next two years. I guess uh we got to keep adding to this war chest of of draft picks for Darren Muji. But isn’t this crazy, dude? Two or three weeks ago, we were pretty much all saying we don’t know if these should even be the guys to make the picks, right? And now all of a sudden, we know for sure these guys are making the picks and they need to absolutely hit on these picks. like you can’t you can’t get the wrong quarterback anymore. Not only are you going to lose your job, but as a lot of people in the comments are saying, you’re talking about 2030 being competitive if this quarterback uh doesn’t hit, right? This is a full-on tear it apart and rebuild it back up. I I mean, at this point, like I I I don’t care what happens on the field anymore because losses are not going to get this regime fired. When you allow, if Woody Johnson allows Aaron Glenn and Darren Muji to trade away your two best defensive players, they’re not getting fired now. So, anyone who wants Aaron Glenn gone, guess what? He’s the coach next year. And now you pray that he knows what he’s doing, that he could identify the right quarterback and they could surround that quarterback with the right infrastructure to have any chance. [ __ ] another one. No, the the full compensation, a second rounder, a firstrounder next year, which is the Cowboys natural selection, and defensive tackle Mazy Smith. So, they got a player back. So, they get a young upand cominging player and Mazy Smith at the same position. Okay. It makes it a little less like a softer of a landing because you’re at least going to see a talented player, but like golly, this is crazy. I mean, added I Mitchell, sure, like it’s a good upside swing. Maybe I thought you could have had him for like a fourth rounder, you know, fifth rounder. Maybe that is a conditional if he does end up popping off. But yeah, man. I mean, this this is a clear indication. this this regime isn’t going anywhere. They’re making all these picks probably for the next two years. So, next year could look ugly, too, right? I’m not gonna, you know, I hope that they turn it around and they can be competitive with a rookie quarterback or the bridge quarterback probably Justin leading into this rookie and be somewhat competitive and miss the playoffs by a game next year. But, are we looking at 2027 being the year where the Jets are actually going to be competitive? It’s hard to see. Obviously, the picks need to come down in in April, but it’s hard to see where this team is going to be competitive anytime soon. It will simply come down to who the quarterback is. Did they get it right? Because if you hit on the quarterback, you could turn your team around very quickly. Houston was the second worst team in the league. They hit on CJ Strad. They won a playoff game his rookie year. Jaden Daniels was just in the NFC Championship game the year after they were picking second in the first place to get him. The the problem I have with all this, right, I have very little confidence in Aaron Glenn and Darren Muji based on what they have done so far. So, I hope that they know what they’re doing and they could pick the right players because these picks are nice. You got to hit on them. Like part of the reason the Jamal Adams trade was so great is because say whatever you want about Joe Douglas, he turned it into Elijah Vera Tucker and Garrett Wilson. And a big thing in that deal is Seattle completely bottomed out in the second year after they made the Adams trade, right? They had a terrible season. That pick was not supposed to be the 10th overall pick where you were able to even draft at that point Garrett Wilson. So I I I I hope they know what they’re doing. I do because the picks are nice. You got a huge return here for Quinnon. But man, it’s just you’re blowing your whole thing up and everything now should be getting the right quarterback and now you have the the draft ammunition where even if you don’t have the number one pick, if you got to move up to get the guy you love, you could do it because you have the assets to make it happen. You have an extra second this year, which is huge. You have you have an extra first this year. You have a first next year. Now what? Three first round picks in 2026 alone. You could trade one of those to move up if you really got to get No, only two in 2026, but two twos now. That’s the difference. It’s a It’s a two 27 they have 27 they have three first round. I got the years confused. Yes, but I I meant that. 27 they have three first round picks now. And I was just uh replied to in on a Twitter uh tweet that I made by a Bills fan, somebody that I met down at the Senior Bowl. His name is John Helpamp. He’s really a really cool guy. But he even said, he’s like, “Are the Jets going to load up in 2026 and build the roster and then attack the 2027 draft and find their quarterback?” And I’m like, “Dude, I’m scared that that’s what’s going to happen because that means we have to see nine games this year and probably 17 games next year of bad to uncompetitive football while building up the roster to then support said quarterback.” And I don’t know, man. We we’re kind of going back and forth and we’ll talk about it tonight on my channel with Dom. This this quarterback class in 2026 has been very all over the place and I I was really excited to discuss it with Dom tonight about who his guy is and what he’s thinking about this class, but maybe we start thinking about 2027 as the quarterback class. And I hate to say it like that, but can you load up on premium picks at other positions like Ruben Bane, the edge rusher from Miami, or you know, offensive line if they want to let go Simpson, AVT, Meyers, obviously all on deals that they have to make decisions about. So, I’m just completely nervous about the future of this team for next year because if they don’t go up and get their quarterback this year, it’s not going to look great next year at all. and AG’s gonna have just the same amount of, you know, uh, haters coming at him and rightfully so. But, dude, it’s this is a crazy day, man. I I’m almost at a loss for words. It it’s hard to put into words this happening because this seemingly came out of nowhere with Sauce. Quinnon is not as surprising, but man, you’re blowing it up. And I just didn’t think this was a team that you needed to completely blow up. They’re not one and seven because of a lack of talent, but it’s now being spun like, “Oh, well, we we we need to improve our talent.” I thought Albert Brer, I just saw this. I thought he had a good tweet on like the Jets thought process here. The new Jets brass is basically telling you the talent they inherited was overrated. Whether that’s true or not, it’s a matter of opinion, but dealing off two of your three highest paid players at 27 and Quinnon and 24 Sauce screams that. The problem is they’re the ones who paid Sarder, right? So, they didn’t overrate the talent when they signed him. They believed in him. Glenn referred to him as a foundational piece. So now eight games in, you’ve already changed your mind. That’s why I think the sauce deal it screams it was just too good to pass up and we don’t have a quarterback and we might need extra picks to get our quarterback and then surround him with the right players. Quinnon I think they maybe did find overrated or maybe Quinnon they knew he was not going to request a trade but they knew he was unhappy and they wanted to get something for him and they completely won that deal. Like I I I don’t mind the Quinnon Williams trade. I I don’t know how you feel, Dylan, but I I think they got great value there for a guy that you were gonna have to rework his deal anyway this offseason and it doesn’t sound like they wanted to do that. Just it didn’t scream like that was going to be a big priority for them. So, I’m fine with that. The sauce steel, we just need to know more because a guy you caught a foundational piece eight games in you’re trading him. Is it simply because too good of a deal to pass up? Do you really have that much belief in a Thomas who’s now starting opposite Brandon Stevens who has played a lot better? Like there’s just so much of an unknown to these deals. We don’t know yet as we continue to react in real time to all of it. Yeah. And I I was uh speculating on my breaking news video that I just put out on my channel about Sauce and I said, “Hey, maybe if he went to the team and he was like, you know what, I want to be traded to a contender. I understand.” And and he sees that the writing on the wall is the Jets aren’t going to be competitive till 2027. Then yeah, obviously you have to, you know, try to satiate your player and facilitate a trade of Sas Gardner. the fact that he was um I don’t want to say blindsided, but unaware that the trade was even happening that it makes me more inclined to think that Dar Muji just got an offer he couldn’t refuse. Right. And obviously two first round picks and a wide receiver. I have no idea how the uh Broncos had AD Mitchell on their board that past uh draft, right? Obviously, he went I think 52nd overall to the Colts. Maybe the Broncos really liked him and that’s something, you know, Muji saw from his time with the Broncos and Payton. So, I don’t know. It’s the Quinton Williams deal. Yes, I I am more of a fan of it because you got two premium picks and a player back at a position where you have contractual obligation. You don’t have to sign him right away. I think he has at least one more year left on his deal and AD has two years left on his deal. So, if they see these guys as ascending pieces for the long term, you can kind of swallow that pill a little bit more. But, I don’t know, the the sauce gardener trade to me is he was going to be a second team all pro. Like, we I I know Jets fans overrate players and they love to hate on Sauce. And maybe part of the the bright side of this is we don’t have to do the discourse of like saying Sauce Gardner is a good player while people just continually say he’s [ __ ] But, I I don’t know. I can I can take the Quinnon one. I I don’t really love the the sauce one. But again, it all comes down to what these picks look like. That’s it. I mean, if you have faith in Darren Muji and Aaron Glenn, God bless you for what I Why should we, right? I mean, like, I don’t personally, and I hope they prove me wrong as a diehard Jet fan who spends four hours a day talking about this team year round, right? I can’t escape this. Like, we’re going to be talking about bad football the rest of the way as this team is going to struggle to win some games now. And what sucks is now they have the built-in excuse. Oh, well, we traded away sauce. We traded away we traded away Quinn of like you can’t hold us accountable for us only finishing now with two wins. No, we we this needed to be a full-on tear down and I just don’t think it did. But they they got to hit on the picks now. That’s it. And the biggest thing above anything else, they’re drafting a quarterback. We all know that. It better be the right quarterback. And I hope that they could actually not only pick the right quarterback because in recent Jet history, the Jets have actually done that in Sam Darnold, but we’re so bad at building a team around him and giving him the great Adam Gase as his coach that we didn’t know they actually picked the right quarterback until years later. So like there’s just so much unknown now. We just got to hope that they turn, you know, the hall of picks that they have now accumulated into real players. I mean, here’s a look at the future picks now that the Jets have, right? They got a firstrounder their own this year. Indy’s first rounder, their own second. Dallas is second. I mean, that’s four players right there that you’re adding to your team in premium spots. 2027, you now have three first round picks. So, this regime is going to get all of this year, all of next year, and they’ll probably get year three because now they’ve convinced Woody this is going to be a two-year rebuild and we’ll be ready to win finally in the third year. the way they set this up, they can’t be fired next year because the excuse will be, well, you got to let us make our three first round picks that we have. So, they’re now we’re now tied into this regime and we got to hope like hell as Jet fans that this new regime knows what the f they’re doing because they’re not going anywhere. Now, the biggest takeaway from today beyond the returns of these players is Darren Muji and Aaron Glenn are here for this year and all of next year because they’re going to be getting the opportunity to use all these picks. They’re not going to fire Glenn even if he goes out there and wins four games in 2026. It’s going to be well, he’s got three first round picks he now has to use to build around his quarterback that he’s going to take in this off season. So, we’re now tied in to the Aaron Glenn Darren Muji regime for the rest of this year and all of next year no matter what. I don’t care. They could win three games in 2026. It does not matter DT they are going to be able to make these picks. Yeah. Can you pull up that graphic again of all their picks? I because I have like um so obviously the Jets are picking third right now. India is picking 32nd. Obviously they have the best record in football. We’re going to hope that Daniel Jones continues to look like he did this past weekend against the Steelers. Um then the Jets have the 35th overall pick, right? The third pick. It might be the fourth pick. So 36th overall in the second round. And then Dallas has the 14th pick in the first round. So you’re looking at roughly pick 46 or 47. So, three, 32, 36, and 47 as it stands today in the 2026 draft. I honestly don’t know if they’d pick four players. They probably end up picking three, right? They use one of those to trade up and and probably solidify that quarterback. That’s just my assumption. So, you have to find three quality players with these picks. And then, if you’re not going to do the quarterback thing, you probably got to stay put, pick four players, and then load up next year to be in the same spot. And you also have to hope that Indianapolis in 2026 against a first place schedule, assuming they win the AFC South, which it looks like they will, they’re playing a first place schedule. And you got to hope Daniel Jones is not uh looking good again next year or whoever their quarterback is. And that you get kind of lucky with the um Jamal Adams 2.0 kind of trade where Seattle was bad and gave us a top 10 pick. If Indie is good next year like they are this year and they’re starting hot seven and two and they end with a playoff pick, this is a really bad return for the Jets. And then you couple it with the fact that AD Mitchell isn’t a guarantee. So it it makes it really crucial for these guys who just a couple weeks ago we were saying how we don’t trust them and we still don’t really trust them, right? One win doesn’t erase all of the bad that has happened, right? One game out of eight is 12.5% of a sample size. So like we’re just talking about literally putting glass in the water in the glass. Not even half full or half empty. We had water in the glass. Now it feels like we just have a glass sitting on the table empty and we really have to uh build it back up again. And it’s I don’t know is Mushi the right guy to do this? It’s really hard to say definitively it is. And it looks like they have offers on the table for Germaine and Bree as it stands right now. Just trade them at this point. just trade them and get as many picks as you can because what else are we going to see this year? We’re not watching wins down the stretch. We’re going to watch maybe one win down the stretch. It is just wild that this is happening. As far as Bree at this point and Quincy Williams, trade them. Trade them because the the goal is not even to try and like be really good next year. It’s going to be well, we’re building it our our way. We have a quarterback that we’re going to draft. And I’d argue, yeah, maybe you keep Bree for that young quarterback, but at this point, like, doesn’t sound like Breece is going to be here. If they were going to trade Sauce, who was under contract, I doubt they’re going to keep Bree around. So, I would trade Breece if I can get something for him now. Germaine Johnson, I don’t want to trade him, but like, if I’m getting a a second round pick and then some. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I didn’t want to trade Bree or JJ, but they went even higher and traded Sauce and Quinn. So, now at this point, I don’t care if they trade JJ and Bree. Like, what does it mean? you’re telling the team that you’re giving up on at least this season. Um, I don’t I don’t think Bree is going to be in the long-term plans. Although, I think of all the people, sure, you tear down your defense and you let AG, a defensive-minded guy, build it back up the way he sees it, fine. Bree can help out your rookie quarterback. I totally get that. But at this point, does anybody on this team even want to be here anymore? How many people have now just gone to Muji and said, “All right, put me on the list. Uh, take take calls for me, too.” It’s I I could see like two or three more trades happening. And this morning when if you asked me, I would have said I’d take the over on.5 trades, but I would not take the over on 1.5 trades. And now we might see three or four. I it just I I I can’t believe we went from this uh we’re here to win now and we’re looking forward to it. So, any questions? To now blowing the whole thing up and this regime now convincing Woody Johnson they get all of this year, they get all of next year now. And no matter what, they have the built-in excuse. Mhm. Building it the right way. We’re blowing the whole thing up. We’re starting over. And this owner has the audacity to raise season ticket prices for people. Yep. You’re a season ticket holder and you renew. And you’re part of the problem, man. Don’t give them your money after they just traded away Quinn and Sauce. Buy tickets on the secondary market. I’m not saying don’t go to games. People love going to games and tailgating, but they they have the audacity to increase season ticket prices after doing this. Come on. I unbelievable. Wrap sheet clarification. The Jets get the higher of the two firsts in 2027. So, if Green Bay finishes with a worse record than Dallas next year, we get the Packers firstrounder. If the Cowboys finish with the worst record, we get the Cowboys. So, no matter what, we get the better of the first round picks next year. That’s good. I like that. So, so yes, you’re you’re now hate watching the Colts, you’re hate watching the Cowboys, and you’re probably hate watching the Packers, too, just because you want them to uh lobby for as as better of a pick as you can get. So, that is the clarification. Bree three minutes ago put an emoji and dot dot dot. That doesn’t look very um healthy. And then Tom Pelisero on a wild day in Floren Park. The Jets are not expected to trade Bree Hall, though there is still over an hour to the deadline. Great. Just all the cryptic tweets are just uh and this is part of it though, right? Like maybe maybe these guys need a a new scenery because New York has just worn them out. And rightfully, I mean, I don’t blame any player that doesn’t want to be here anymore, but it’s like, oh man, this is the next hour and a half are going to be excruciating, Jake. Well, I I mean, I’m going to be staying on. Uh Dylan, you’re welcome to stay on as long as you like here. If they make if they make one more trade, I’ll react to it with you and then I’ll go out and put a breaking uh video on my own channel. But yeah, I saw your face on you. Uh what is it? I guess Bart and Carlin, but it’s really Jake and Carlin today. That was uh that was my reaction. and I saw it and I was like I had to look and make sure it was the real rap sheet. I’m like am I just getting you know you know uh what’s I forget the word but uh yeah I thought it was fake but it clearly was not. So at the beginning of the show I showed off all the soft shirts and the jersey I have I mean I have a Quinnon jersey too. There goes that one. Just just brutal man. It’s I mean and look I like the Quinnon trade. I don’t think you needed to trade both Sauce and Quinnon today though. It it like I I don’t know man. They better they better hit on these picks cuz that’s really what it comes down to. But I I don’t like this regime now just having this built-in excuse to not have to win even next year now. Now now it’s going to be like whoa uh what do you want from us? We have three first round picks so we could build it our way. And I guess we’ll see if they end up still having three first round picks when it’s all said and done. Like for all we know, Dylan, the Jets are going to be extra aggressive in the first round this year. And after drafting, let’s say, you know, it’s D, you know, Dante Moore, Fernando Mendoza in the top three, they use one of those first next year to trade back into round one to get, you know, the best receiver, right? So, so like they might not necessarily have three first round picks in 2027 by the time we get done with the draft in 2026. But I I mean, this didn’t need to be as big of a full-on tearown as it now is going to be. And and if I can get something for Breece, I’m trading him or I’m extending him today. Get something done with Breece. You either extend him today on a two-year deal or you trade him and get something for him because there’s no point A in keeping him around because I thought I thought Glenn would need to win some games. But no, he’s already convinced Woody that he’s going to be back next year. They’re not going to fire him. Aaron Glenn could go winless over these next nine games. He’s not getting fired, folks. They could finish one and 16. Him or Muji are safe. They are not getting fired. Yeah. No. And I I said that a couple weeks ago. I’ve accepted that they would be back even if I disagreed with it because all the messaging especially when you know before the owners meeting when Woody spoke when all those reporters were coming out with the exact same report that these guys are going to get a second year regardless of what happens I didn’t think it would be to this extent that they would give up on the season but I was definitely prepared for whatever happened next good or bad obviously this is you know as bad as it can get other than the fact that you have unknown commodities draft picks that will help you in the future. But oh man, watching Trevor Sckma post a picture of Ohio State’s Julian Seyan, their quarterback, and Jeremiah Smith, their wide receiver, saying coming soon to Metife Stadium. Neither of those guys are eligible in 2026. So that’s two years removed from seeing it and I don’t want to wait that long. You, like you said, you got to go get your quarterback. You got to trade up and get an asset for him in the first round. You really got to turn this thing around quick. And I really thought the second year of AG was going to be the year where I was very harsh on him in terms of wins and competitiveness and making it to the playoffs. I don’t want to push that to 2027. We shouldn’t be a year away from being a year away. We should be one off season away. And I thought with Saw and Quinn here for the future, we could have been that. Now, now everything’s turned on its head. Who’s the quarterback next year? That will determine how close they are, right? Daniel Jones having this career renaissance. You know, that was supposed to be Justin Fields with us, right? Darnell doing what he did in Minnesota. That was supposed to be Justin Fields with us this year. Baker revitalizing his career. That was supposed to be us. Like, they have to now get the quarterback pick, right? But most rookie quarterbacks don’t always have instant success. And we’re seeing this with the Giants. Dart has played well. Dable’s not a good head coach, so they’re still not winning. And they’re in year four of that regime. So, I just what I want to see from Glenn now these next nine games is competency. Show me that you know how to coach, that you could put together a game plan, that you’re not going to have embarrassing clock mismanagement at the end of the halfs. Don’t get embarrassed by Mike Vrabel when you play in prime time in New England in 10 days. Like, I I want to see real improvement here because I I don’t care how many picks the Jets have. One, you got to hit on them. And two, you could have a talented team and if you have no idea how to actually coach the players up, it will not matter. So, there’s obviously an argument, hey, get a lot for these players. You’re doing great with the returns. I get all that, but I haven’t seen enough in this regime that makes me feel great that they’re going to be the ones making these major decisions. And by allowing them to make these major decisions, you’ve guaranteed them a job this year and all of next year, no matter what. Yeah, 100%. And SNY just put out a long tweet describing the relationship between Quinn and Williams and the Jets, saying that it worsened this season with the issues starting before the year. says, quote, “A captain and arguably the team’s most impactful defensive player, Williams relationship with the Jets deteriorated this season. According to multiple sources, the issues began with the decision to move on from quarterback Aaron Rogers. Williams did not hide his frustration, posting on social media another rebuild year for me, I guess. Coach Aaron Glenn discussed Williams comments with him both privately and publicly at the combine, but the situation did not improve. The Jets decision to reject Williams request to rework his contract earlier this season made matters worse. He was just has just 5 million remaining on his guaranteed salary after 2025. The Jets 0 and7 start made the relationship irreparable. Williams let those close to him know he wanted a fresh start and had little interest in working toward an extension in New York. SNY learned his preferred destination was the Cowboys, a feeling that clearly was mutual. So he was done. I I I I wish the best of Quinn Williams. He was a great Jet. It is unfortunate that Quinnon Williams never got to experience any sort of success with this franchise. The best longest tenure player and the only success from a record standpoint he had was in 2022 when they got off to the six and three at seven and four start. That was it. The best year from a winning percentage standpoint was actually Q’s rookie season when Adam Gay started one and seven but finished six and two to go seven and nine. So guess what Quinn and Williams seven and N better than the other seven and 10 seasons that he was a part of was Salah in 22 and 23. So I look I I wish Quinnon all the best. They got a huge hall for him. I understood why they did it. I’m fine with that sauce. To me it’s like you didn’t need to do this full-on tear down. You better be right with these picks, man. And honestly, Baurice is now tweeting, you know, dot dot dot. He clearly wants to be out of here, too. If you could get a fourth or a fifth, I got to do it at this point cuz you’re just you’re tearing it down. That’s what this is. Why stop? Why stop now? If you Bree is not in your plans for next year, if you’re not going to go to him right now with an extension offer, then trade him because I’m not I’m not going to keep him around and then lose him for nothing. If you have no intention of keeping Breece, not using the franchise tag on him, you have no intention of extending him, then get me a pick for him. And same for Quincy Williams, who’s a free agent at the end of the year. Just get me all the picks possible and we’ll start doing mock drafts on the show tomorrow. I I mean, seriously, what what else is there? If you’re trading Quinn and Saws in an hour apart from each other, then just get me all the picks possible if these guys are not in your long-term plans. And I have no reason to think Hall is in their long-term plans. I don’t even know if Germaine Johnson is in their long-term plans. I have no idea. I think he should be, but I have no idea. They could be trading him too in the next 15 minutes for all we know. Yeah. Hour 15. We have an hour and 15 to just slow grind this roster out. And I don’t think anybody’s safe at this point. Maybe Bree and some people were saying maybe he was putting the sad emoji because he’s staying with the Jets or it’s the sad emoji because his friends are getting traded. Either way, it’s not a good look. I would like it if they kept Bree. I would get it if they moved on. At this point, it’s it’s going to make Sundays even more unbearable, honestly. Like, I’m not even in the slightest bit in like interested in this Browns Jets game other than the fact that I am now rooting for losses. I want to see the Jets get the highest draft pick they can because that ensures more likelihood that they don’t mess it up and they can still mess it up even if they get picked 1-1. So, this is this is a rough day, man. I don’t I don’t even know how to feel about any of these players anymore. Like like I said, I didn’t want to trade Garrett or JJ and Bree, but they went even higher and they traded Sauce and Quinn, so everybody’s probably on the table. [ __ ] try to trade Justin Fields if if anybody wants him for a seventh round pick because then you help out your cap space. Why is Lazard still here? Where’s our seventh round pick swap with the Steelers for him? What are we doing? And the Steelers, they just signed uh MVS today to their practice squad and they eventually will put them up to the active roster and they’re going to get Rogers guys or future or former Rogers guys. So maybe they go get Alan Lazard for a 2027 seventh round pick and Jake you’ll pick him up and drive him to the airport yourself. But like yeah, I didn’t expect sauce. I was not really expecting Quinnon, but I I I get it. if he if he wanted out. That was the only way I was gonna let him, you know, walk. And they still got the best for a player that didn’t want to be here. They actually got a really good return. Let me make it clear. I have zero issue trading Quinn Williams. I I felt like it was a possibility. My thing was you got to get a first for him. They did and then some. So, they they maximized his return. I have no issue trading away Quinnon Williams at all. It’s what else is going to be done today, too. Like, is Breeze traded? Germaine Johnson, Will McDonald. But I just I don’t love the idea that we’ve already now basically said this regime is getting all of next year, too. And probably, let’s be real, they’re going to get three full years because they’re going to be allowed to now use the draft picks that they accumulated uh for 2027 as well. So, they’re going to get the entirety of this off season, the entirety of next year, and they’ll go into year three. And if we’re still not winning by then, the playoff drought’s only going to be at 18 years. Who’s counting? Yeah. And Diana Rousini says the Jets asking price for Bree is a third round pick per source. Teams have yet to meet New York’s ask with just over an hour to go until the deadline. I mean, take it with a grain of salt. Rini thought he had a fifth year option, but also a third round pick for Bree would be, you know, better than what it was reported a week and a half ago, which was a a fifth if you’re very lucky, a fourth. Unreal. Unreal. Hit the like button if you’re just tuning in. Obviously, this day is insane. If you’re one of the 2800 people in here live right now, thank you. That might be a record. I don’t know what the actual record is for live viewers at once. But if you’re new to the show, I talk Jets football for 4 hours a day year round. That’s right. In June and July, when all your favorite uh personalities are taking summer vacation, not here, baby. And this year, I mean, we’re going to be doing mock drafts starting tomorrow. Let’s go. Yeah. I might have to talk DOMC into a I might have to talk DOMC into a mock draft tonight on the channel after we talk about our quarterbacks of the future. Unbelievable. Uh, by the way, raffle was supposed to be today. It will be tomorrow. If you gift the membership, you’re entered to win a signed Nick Mangled football, signed Wayne Correbette football, and a signed Justin Fields jersey. So, gift away to enter. I will gift five right now because we all could use a pickme up. So, I’m going to gift five to the community because, man, this sucks. I’m gifting five right now. If you get a membership, I will put you in the raffle, ladies and gentlemen. Hit it. Let’s go. Let’s go. Let’s go. Let’s go. [Music] All right. Five people just got memberships, so you’re in the raffle for tomorrow. Unreal. DT, I’ll let you run, but man, if call back in if Darren Muji and Aaron Glenn decide to trade another player on this team. Yeah, 100%. I’ll leave you guys with this. Matt Miller of ESPN, uh, who I have met personally and I think he’s a good, uh, draft analyst. He says, “The 2027 NFL draft class has the potential to be one of the best ever, and the Jets now have three first round picks to use in it.” I mean, in on one hand, can we stop doing that [ __ ] Can we just focus on the draft that’s coming up instead of bolstering up the class that could be in 2027? But on the other hand, if a lot of these quarterbacks go back to school because they still have some eligibility, I think there’s like five out of the top six right now that have eligibility left in college, then yeah, it makes the 2027 class a lot better. But hey, man, it’s a it’s a great time to be a draft enthusiast. Uh if you are a Jets fan. So, we’re right back to it. 2022, we had three picks. Now, we have three picks in 2027, five years later. Can we repeat? I doubt it, but it’ll be interesting. 2032 when we trade away, you know, which star player to which team. You want to start previewing that uh live stream in 2032? Yeah. The Jets trade former allpro um what wide receiver name can we use? Jordan Tyson to the Green Bay Packers for two first round picks and 42y old Jordan Love. Unbelievable. Ridiculous. I I think we have some breaking news in regards to Bree here. It sounds like his camp is trying to put out that he wants to be traded. Uh, yep. It’s okay. Breaking news from Jordan Schultz. Here we go. It never ends, baby. Breaking sports on the Cas. Jets running back Bruce Hall wants to be traded. I’m told a little over one hour till the deadline, but Bree wants to be out. Of course, he wants to be out. He’s tired of losing. And the Jets clearly have not come to him with any talk of an extension. So, yeah, he wants out. Do I think they should trade Bruce? No. They should be extending him. He’s going to help your rookie quarterback next year, not having to do it all by himself. That’s the point. That’s why you would keep him around. So, yeah, of course Breeze wants out. Now, if the Jets don’t trade him, uh, are they going to offer him an extension? Probably not. So, what is that locker room going to be like? You almost have to trade them now if it’s going to be this bad. Yeah, because you can’t and and somebody put put this out on Twitter, too. You can’t tear down the team in terms of talent and then your first move of building it back up is extending the least valuable position in the NFL. Now, if you kept all these guys and extended Bree Hall, it makes sense. You want to be competitive down the back nine and you want to be competitive next year, you’re not you’re not being competitive, unfortunately for the next nine, 15, 18 games. I would say back half of next year, we’re going to start seeing some competitive football out of this team. But again, you got to hit on your draft picks. I don’t blame Bree. Good luck. My Bree Hall helmet is this this whole shelf is just garbage today. It’s just unreal. I I’m going to stay on as long as we need to be on today, folks. So, I will get to your calls. I know there’s a bunch of super chats. Uh we’ve yet to hit on DT. Thanks for popping in, though, man. Call back at four after we see what the final damage is for this day. Unbelievable. The carnage, the Jets blowing it all up on the day of the trade deadline, man. Unbelievable. Absolutely. I’ll be back most likely with you live still because you’re going to be on for a while. I’m going to go do my breaking Quinn video, the Breece video, and then tonight on my channel at Dylan Tamman, as you see it down on the screen, Domc and I are doing uh about 30 35 minutes on college quarterbacks. We’re going to get all DomC’s thoughts. He’s our guy. We waited far too long to get a draft enthusiast on the podcast, but Domc is joining me tonight. And uh we’ll be doing mock drafts by the end of this week. Jake, picks for days, baby. The New York Jets. We’ve already won the offseason and the Jets season is still going. We still got nine games to go and we already won the off season. Unreal. DT, you’re the man. Everyone go subscribe to his channel. All right, a bunch of you are on hold. I see that. But let me get caught up on some super chats here and I’m going to stay on a while. I mean, what else am I doing, right? Unbelievable. Three hours of radio today filling in for Bart Scott. The sauce trade happened right at the end of our show and now we have Quinnon Williams also being dealt. You gotta I mean you can’t make it up. Barton Carlin on ESPN New York and on the ESPN New York app. Do we have something cooking here? Oh my Oh my lord. No. Holy crap. What a day this is, man. Unreal. Purple belt Mike starts us off with the super chat here. He said we need answers ASAP. Charles, what did you do? Why did you do it? In all seriousness, I love Sauce. One of my favorite players and a good guy. Glad I bought a Sauce helmet and a jersey this year. Shake my effing. Oh, you know what? I just thought of this. Oh, I had just purchased so much sauce signed items for raffles. Oh. Oh, I’m taking a bath on those. That is brutal. I literally bought three signed sauce jerseys in the last week to use for future raffle prizes. H TH3. Honestly, I’m like, they’re not going to trade him. They just extended him. Oh, I hate this team. Honestly, my first reaction is I hate the deal too first that will be in the late 20s or functionally second round picks. Ad Mitchell comes with potential mental and character issues. I mean, look, if it doesn’t work out for AD Mitchell, you could just get rid of them. I like betting on the talent. Fine. Uh, look, I they got to hit on the picks. That’s what it comes down to. If you’re good at your job, you could find talent at the end of the first round, even if they’re late first round picks. or those picks could be used for additional ammunition to trade up and get the player that you’re actually coveting. Could be a quarterback, a receiver, who knows? Marshall says, “I like the return for Sauce, but I thought he’d be a cornerstone.” I mean, that’s what they said. Jeff in the raffle for five. Hate the return mood you got for sauce. You What did you say? You said Oh, you say you you like the return. I mean, the return is great for two first round picks. I just don’t love this regime basically now being given like Carblan to be here for all of this year, all of next year. They’re going to get a year three. Like, when are we making the playoffs, man? You trust them to pick the right quarterback cuz that’s the only way this playoff drought’s ending. NYJ likes the moves. Jet Life says, “Who time me out?” I don’t know. Less writes in. Muji with a bold trade. As I iterated time before, we need a legit wide receiver, too. Adani Mitchell fills that void. No, he doesn’t. You have no idea what AD Mitchell is. He fills that void. Shut up. Thanks for the super chat, though. But come on, Les. He fills that void. Maybe by default because your number two receiver right now is Josh Reynolds. You have no idea what AD Mitchell is yet. This is what what I mean about one of those good players who can’t with win with has to be traded. Finally, valuable picks to build with. Jamal Jamal Adams was a safety. Sauce was a two-time first team all pro corner. It’s not the same thing. It’s not. Joey writes in Reed Carter. Sauce all gone. Just saying. Yeah. I mean, they’re completely rebuilding the team. Bang likes the trade. Good for you, Bang. Florida Jet fan says, “Kind of sad you don’t trade away a captain, franchise cornerstone, former All Pro, loyal and wanted to be here. Does it send the right message, Jake?” Well, Quinnon didn’t want to be here anymore. And I don’t blame him. He was never sold on this new regime. The second they got rid of Rogers, he had the thumbs down tweet. And I guess we’re rebuilding again. And you know what? He was right because his coaching staff is, you know, couldn’t coach their way out of a wet paper bag. And that’s why they’re one and seven. I don’t blame Quinn for being unhappy. This is not a one and seven roster. They shouldn’t be this bad. Anyone trying to tell you, oh, this was all part of the plan. They’re tearing it down. They had to. Now, this was the the natural pivot they felt because of how bad they are, and they’re trying to maximize the return they could get. Well, this was not their plan to be this this bad. No chance. Ricky Quinn to the Cowboys. Yep, that broke. Jackson says, “Let’s hope Carnell Tate falls to our late first. You might have to trade up for him, which you now have the ammunition to do.” Wordy in the house. What a day. Jets, my goodness. Keep up the great work, Jake. Wordy, shout out to you. If you’re a Met fan, make sure you subscribe to Word. He does a great job covering the Mets. Frankie says, “So gut the team just to get fired in 2026.” They’re not going to get fired now, though. That’s the problem, Frankie. You’ve now guaranteed Muji and Glenn at least two more seasons. The Jets could win three or four games next year. It will be blamed on, well, we’re starting a rookie quarterback and we have three first round picks in the 2027 draft. We got to see it through that. I mean, really what it all comes down to is Aaron Glenn has to be good at his job because he’s also the general manager. He Muji reports to Glenn. Woody Johnson referred to Aaron Glenn or Wood, excuse me, Woody Johnson at at the introductory press conference referred to Darren Muji as Aaron Glenn’s sidekick. So, the reality is this. any major decision, it’s Aaron Glenn and he better know what he’s doing because he’s never been a head coach before. He’s never been a GM before, but he has the power of both roles, right? Very rare for a guy to get that kind of power when you’ve never been a head coach before. Kyle Shanahan got that type of power. Aaron Glenn has the same type of power for a guy that is a firstear coach. Hopefully, he knows what he’s doing. I have major doubts. How could you not? Jet life. We knew change was coming, but damn. NY Jets, Florida, Jersey burn. This is wild. Hey, I mean, they they’re completely torching everything, man. And I keep checking Twitter here because who knows when the next big trades coming because I don’t think they’re done yet. The Jets now have no draft picks selected before 2021 on their roster. Quinn was the last McCagnum pick. I guess the long snapper, Thomas Hennessy, is still here. He’s the longest tender jet. Alicio writes, “And if Garrett goes, I’m if they trade Garrett, I’m with you.” No, you can’t. Garrett’s not going anywhere. Now, how does he feel about all this? I don’t know. But this is unreal. The record person. It’s the bye-bye by week. Yeah. So much for the by-week. Oh my god. Bye-bye week. Well done, Art. Rebuild mode activated. What a roller coaster, Jake. They better make these moves look good sooner than later. Don’t know what to do with myself. Well, get familiar with mock draft season because it’s coming a lot earlier than ever before. Austrian Jet fan trade deadline champs. Hey, we can’t actually win anything on the field, but we could win the off season usually. And this year, we’re not even winning the off season, right? We’re winning in season, man. Unbelievable. Unreal. Hit it. [Music] Barney, the by-week is now the bybye week. Frankie, we want to win now. One and seven. Blow it up. No, I mean, they’re blowing the whole thing up. Andrew confirming that it’s the Dallas pick. Yep. Rap saying. So, it’s the Dallas second round pick. This obviously these super chats a little dated because we’re reacting in real time. Mike says, “What’s the plan? Was this the plan all along?” No. Anyone trying to convince you that this was part of some master plan for them to tear it up? No. It became this because they were awful and started one and seven. That’s what happened here. Neil with a super chat. We are owning the 2026 draft. Let’s all go, baby. Could not be happier. Quinnon won sack, wanted it out. Sauce, one pick in two years. How many games did these two win for us the last two years at Rogers? Yeah. Why didn’t they win more games? Because you had the worst coaching staff in the NFL when Salo was fired last year. two and three. Quinnon and Sauce were all pro players with good coaching, were they not? Like that’s what happened. Neil, what has Aaron Glenn done to deserve the opportunity now to basically get guaranteed two more years to make all these picks and trade away proven good football players? People love the idea of draft picks. You got to hit on the picks and then you got to actually coach these players up. That’s my fear with the quarterback. They picked the right guy in Sam Darnold. They failed him. They picked Justin Fields. Aaron Glenn said, “We’re going to coach him up. We’re going to let him play quarterback.” He’s terrible. Outside of week one and the outlier game against the Bengals, he’s terrible. So, their ability to coach guys up has been terrible. Guys have gotten worse on the team this year, not better. That’s why I have major doubts at like the returns. I understand. I don’t like giving this regime the power to make these deals. They don’t deserve it in my mind. They they’ve been awful, but they’re gonna get I I I hope they’re great at their jobs because we all benefit as Jet fans, but that’s why I have major doubts. I don’t want Aaron Glenn and Darren Muji getting guaranteed two more years now, which is what they have. Less says Fields has been a part of two tearowns. I mean, not really. When they moved on from Justin Fields is because they had the first pick because they made a smart trade with Carolina the previous year. That wasn’t a worst team in the draft pick to take Caleb. They got lucky. Cactus says, “What the f did any of us do to deserve this garbage? I hate Woody and what we become inflicting this nonsense on my 15-year-old son is/w was child abuse.” Aras says he was reporting JJ getting offers. I mean, look, would it shock me if they trade Germaine Johnson? No. Muji is cooking. JJ, I’m going to send a video of me laying out all my Jet jerseys, the guys they trade today, and send to my ticket rep next time he contacts me. I mean, I could do that, too. in my closet right now. Am I I already tossed the sauce jersey off to the side. Am I going to need to get rid rid of the uh Germaine Johnson jersey, too? I already got rid of the Quinnon jersey. Unreal. You know, why don’t we do this? Let’s do a giveaway end of the show today. Let’s Let’s do something that uh we all could benefit. I’ll give away a jersey at the end of the show today. All right. And it’s only a Jet Legend jersey. So, these will never go out of style. Joe Nameoth, Joe Cleco, Curtis Martin, Wayne Crebette, Derell Rivas, Nick Mangled. You pick the Jet Legend, I send it to you, but you got to enter the raffle to win by gifting a membership or sending in a $10 super chat or higher. I’ll count them all up and we’ll do it at the end of however long this stream goes cuz we still got an hour till the trade deadline is official. And my god, this is a landmark day in the history of the Jet franchise. NYJ, we are in the midst of a true rebuild. Yeah, didn’t need to be, but it is. Don’t expect playoffs next year. They’re going to now sell you one. This is going to take time. You know, it’s an instant coffee league. Yeah, I I I heard it. I heard the previous head coach who got fired say that, too. Could always beat the narrative of same old Jets, but it’s not. But I know this. They’re not the same old Jets. Everyone wants things now. It’s the instant coffee age, but uh but at the same time, we’re we’re grinding. I Here’s what I do know. I know this is an instant coffee league. I know from the media to the fans, everybody expects this. You know, when you just start, okay, we’re going to Super Bowl, but we’ve all played Legos before. We’ll watch the tape. Watch the tape. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Here we are. Re rebuilding again, baby. Big fella. I’m throwing in Gorman as compensation for AD. Free. Yeah. Charles Gorman’s Colts today, man. Loaded up by acquiring a two-time allp pro corner. Team Curry. How come we didn’t get two first round picks for Gorman? He was a one seed. Trade them all. Jay Sylvester Saw said he wanted to be a Jet for life. Yeah, I know. I know. I wouldn’t have traded him. I would have kept him. I get the return is amazing. But I just I I I don’t like this regime being the ones to be able to blow this up, especially after they paid sauce. They didn’t they inherited him and paid him. I get like the return is amazing, but now it’s like you’re trading Quinn too. So, like to me it makes no sense to keep Brace. If this if this once you make the decision you’re blowing it up, then fully blow it up. Trade Brace Hall. He’s clearly not in your plans. If you’re not offering an extension today, then you know what? Trade him. Reese wants out. Trade him. Apparently Quinnon Williams requested a trade three times already this year. So I think part of the reason Quinn is not having a typical Quinnon year is he’s not motivated to play. He’s like, I’m doing this again. And honestly, I get it. He’s a professional and all that, and I don’t think he’s dogging it, but I I don’t I do question how exactly motivated Quinnon Williams was in the first place, right? Once again, the best year he ever had from a winning percentage standpoint was 2019, his rookie season, when they won seven games. They were seven and nine. Every other year they were seven and 10 was the best, right? Like the only year he like got to experience what winning in this town could be like was 2022 when they were six and three. So Quinn was unhappy. I don’t blame him. I I I really do not blame Quinnon. I understood trading him. I It makes sense to me, but Saus wanted to be here. He could have If they just traded Quinnon today, I’d get it. And then you keep Sauce. You have plenty of draft capital. I don’t like trading both of them. That’s my big thing. I The returns are excellent. If you’re going to trade sauce, yes, getting two first for him, excellent. But man, you had enough picks. You now got to hit on these picks. Maddie says Glenn mentioned he was following Parcels’s where you listen to everything and if a deal knocks you off for socks, you make the move. I get it. But if you had conviction in S Gardner to make him the highest paid corner ever eight games in, you’re like, we’re good. Nick says, trade for Burrow in the offseason. I mean, I’d give three I’d give every first round pick they have over the next two years to get Joe Burrow. The Bengals won’t do it. Dregot says, “15 years, no playoffs. I thought I’ve seen the worst, but nothing but darkness.” Yeah, I mean, I understand fans feeling that way, man. Kyle Clifton says, “I wish I had confidence in Aaron Glenn. If the team sucks, say it. Don’t pretend we’re here to win now. How can we trust this guy who struggled in game and with the media to be here another two or three years? Yeah. I mean, look, you shouldn’t, to be honest. You have every right to be skeptical. It’s coaching, man. It’s coaching. What was the hug like today between Woody and Glenn discussing these moves. I hug him every day. I hug him every day. Incredible Bizzle, can we trade Jake Amin back to the Houston Texans for Paul Galant? We need the charismatic podcaster and the Jets simply suck. Going to blow the picks. I appreciate you, Bezel. Shout out to all my former listeners down in Houston. Uh, David says, “Jake and Dylan, what’s your estimate on the Jet salary cap situation?” I don’t have that in front of me, David, but they have a lot of cap space, and the dead money on Sauce is not as much as you would think. I think it’s like 7 million next year and eight the following. They’ll save a lot of money in like 27 or 28 because remember, S’s contract has not kicked in yet. His extension kicks in two years from now. He’s he’s going to play on the he was going to play on the fifth year option next year and then the years were tacked on after that. So it was this year and next year. Joe, have someone check on Parcels, please? I’m concerned. You think Glenn called Parcels before making these moves. Abu Jacob says, “Jake, is it true that the 2027 draft class is supposed to be one of the best ever?” I don’t care what it is. We We do this all the time. This year’s draft class from a quarterback standpoint was supposed to be unbelievable. Rick says, “If you don’t have a winning coach, nothing changes.” Agreed. That’s why I have major doubts. From downtown, whose jerseys are we raffling for now? We’re We’re If you’re If you tuned in, we will raffle away only legendary Jet Player jerseys. I just bought a bunch of signed sauce items that now have no use for the show. Unbelievable. Big fella Thomas, welcome to the starting lineup. Obviously, they feel good about him and I like AC Thomas. I thought he was excellent in his starting debut. He’s not Sauce Gardner, though. Brandon Stevens has been a lot better. Let’s see. Brownley’s been excellent. The one thing I’ll give Muji credit for, the trades in season have all been good. Phillips, Briggs, Brownley. This is a different level of trade though, right? This is not, hey, we’re we’re getting some sixrounders here and turning them into, you know, solid contributors. You just traded away a two-time first team all pro and the longest standard player on your team who is a first team all pro and is 27 years old still. Bino, this just seems crazy. Glenn being allowed to rip it apart and has only proved and and has only improved. He’s not a good head coach. We got to root for Glenn to improve as a coach. All right, couple more super chats, then we’ll be joined by another guest. Jet reporter Nick Ferry is going to pop on, get his analysis. Robin says, “See what happens when I win a raffle. Chaos ensues.” Congrats on winning a Mangled jersey though, Robin. And by the way, and shout out to uh all of Nick Mangled’s, you know, friends and family who were there at his funeral services today. That’s why I filled in for Bart Scott. Bart was at the the funeral today. So, you know, thoughts are obviously with the Mangled family on a very difficult day. Lou B writes in, “There’s no way Q didn’t talk to Jerry and say, “Get me, brother. Nobody’s safe except AJ.” I mean, AJ is the most powerful person with the organization by far. He’s going nowhere. They could lose out and he’s not getting fired now. He better be a good head coach. Otherwise, they’re not winning anything. I don’t care how many picks you have. If Aaron Glenn continues to look as bad as he looked through the first eight games overall, it will not matter. Aunt Banks, I’m out until next season. See you draft time. Thanks for the memories. Benny, I’ll take two slices of pizza and a Dr. Pepper for Clemens and Lazard. I’ll drive both to the airport now. Say the words. DG. As a Dolphins fan, y’all have a lot of firepower. Great. Picks are awesome. You got to hit on them. Paul, thank you for the super chat. We should have seen this coming. One of the last regimes was out. They get the excuse to clean house. I feel Muji’s doing a good job for what it’s worth. We shall see. Vlatty P writes in, “Damn, it’s insane what happens when you have Zach Wilson 2.0 as your quarterback. Shame as if they didn’t have competent QB on the roster at the beginning of the year.” You think Aaron Rogers would have fixed this? And I’m someone who wanted him back, but this coaching staff is so bad. I don’t think it would have made that much of a difference. They might have an extra two wins right now, maybe. And then all the blame would be directed at Rogers. Let him go to a real organization like he is in Pittsburgh and he’s winning. He’s not playing that much better than he did with the Jets. He’s been competent, which is what he was with the Jets for most of the games. That’s the difference. Oka Jet fan speechless shock. Don’t know how to react. Excited for the future, but full-blown tank mode. We were honey dick this off seasonason. Frustrated. We’re the New York Jets. We’re built for this [ __ ] It was all phony. We’re the freaking New York Jets. So, we’re [ __ ] You talk about a PR master class in how to not message what your expectations are for your team. Aaron Glenn every step of the way has tried to tell you that this team can win games. That it was all coaching why they blew the lead seven times in the fourth quarter last year. They can’t even get a lead this year. We’re here to win now. Uh we’re here to win now and we’re looking forward to it. So, any questions? Well, Aaron, does the winning now not start till you use your draft picks in 2027? Unbelievable. Few a few remaining super chats, then back to our special guest. Indie says, “Like the Maisy addiction to the trade.” Yeah, I don’t hate that, but he’s not Quinton Williams. They got a lot for Quinnon. I like the return they got for Q. I’d be the first to tell you that. Owen says, “I was praying for you to join your show with our nine-game winning streak. Trade Breeze.” And you’re not trading Garrett. No, thank you. Garrett needs to stay. You got a rookie quarterback next year. He needs players to have a chance to be successful. Muji had a good draft, made good trades in season. Have to feel good about him making the right picks. The aging concerns are fair, but he’s going to get a chance to build it the way he wants. Yeah, I mean, he got a chance to build it the way he wanted to this offseason. What did he do? He chose to keep Michael Clemens, Isaiah Oliver, Tony Adams. He chose to go out there and pay Justin Fields 30 million guaranteed. I I hope Aaron Glenn improves because if he doesn’t, it won’t matter how many picks they have. Brian Kelly, I’m okay with these moves so far. Took a minute. Let’s see what AG has. Great. What gives you any confidence in Aaron Glenn? If he didn’t play for the Jets 30 years ago, would you have confidence in him based on what you’ve seen eight games in? I wouldn’t. The Dominican Destroyer. All these guys gone, but Clemen’s still here. Henny, best day of Allen’s life. Oh yeah, dude. He He’s actually in the hospital right now because he’s had an erection lasting for six hours. Rude writes in, “Cue the field stand saying they’re building around.” Yeah, I don’t have time for that. Ryan says, “Have to hope that Membu Terara or Thomas picks are a sign that this GM can draft well.” I hope the the draft’s been fine so far. 100%. But I the coaching is an abomination to this point. See, it was headed this way regardless, but in two and a half hours, Garrett Wilson has become the unanimous face of the franchise. If they move him, I crash out. You cannot trade Garrett Wilson. Agreed. Mike is in our raffle for five. Thank you, Mike. Mark says, “Sauce finally came up with a couple picks.” I guess funny. Ralphie writes in, “Do you think one got more for Sauce because the extension was signed versus not?” Yeah. I mean, S sauce you got more for because he’s younger and signed 100%. Quinnon, you had to rework his deal. He’s also three years older. J Mo in the raffle. If they’re here to have to be allowed to do their jobs, you don’t think Glenn Emuji should be doing anything, they should be fired now. I mean, if they finish with the worst record in the league, I wanted the clean house. Yeah, this is not a a one in 15 roster. It might be now. And now they have an excuse. But they should not have been one and seven in the first place. Violent action in the raffle for five. Uno Jets in for two. Jake at the trading good players for future picks. I hope we get great picks. If not, we’re missing the playoffs the next 10 years. You’re missing it at least next year and the year after if you screw up the quarterback pick. That’s for sure. All right, we’ll get back to the remaining super chats in a moment. But let’s get the opinion now of Jets Xactor Jets beat reporter Nick Faria who’s called in. Nick, appreciate you stopping in. We got 46 minutes till the deadline. The New York Jets have already made two monstrous moves and they might not be done. How are we feeling? I’m I’m struggling to hold on for for dear life here. It’s been incredible the last four or five hours. Just stunning to say the least. I know Quinn Williams conversations around him were pretty consistent going up to the deadline. Uh but S Gardner is the massive massive uh shock of the day. One of the bigger trade deadlines that I have seen in my lifetime as a fan and a and a reporter. Certainly something you do not expect going into a day like today. Uh but very clearly that this Jets organization sent one message and one clear message to the roster. You are not good enough. Let’s try again. I don’t think that needed to be the message though. I I really I right wrong or indifferent. Right, wrong or indifferent. it. If you’re giving away your allpro corner and you’re giving away your allpro defensive tackle and it sounds like you’re about to give away a a top running back, uh potentially a top edge rusher, there’s no other message to give other than they clearly were not as high on this young core as we thought they should be. Do me a favor, Nick. Can you just uh turn the TV off behind you? Yeah, no, no worries. just because I don’t need to deal with YouTube being like, “That’s copyright. You can’t stream.” No, it’s in the background of his office. Anyway, election night, too. It’s incredible. I’m in the I’m in the Riverdale office. We got a paper we’re going to have to print out in a couple hours. We got to deal with what’s going on at the New York City mayor, and now the Jets have essentially said, “We’re trading everybody.” Unreal. Unreal, man. I I mean, look, the return for Quinn, I think, is a great value. I think getting two Yeah. I mean, it’s it’s just a matter of like, did you need to go down this path? Like, that to me that that to me is the the real question here. Did you need to make this type of move? Because I don’t think this is a full-on rebuild. They now have made it a full-on rebuild, and I just don’t think that was necessarily the the best course of action for this team. And again, I’m I’m not here to say right, wrong, or different. I’m just here to tell you what I see from these moves from an objective standpoint. This is a team that hasn’t finished above 500 in 10 years. they haven’t been to the playoffs and now it’s going to be 15 potentially even 16 years. You have assets. You could in theory build around those assets and sort of get jump started a potential plan to improve year in and year out. The Jets said absolutely not because the players we have just may be a little bit overrated. Maybe the the fan base, the reporters, everyone who’s talked about how great some of these players are, and I’m certainly one of them. Maybe we have overrated these guys from the very beginning. They said these were awesome players though. These were and their action said that too because they brought a lot of them back and they paid S Gardner. That that one I look the optics are what the optics are. They gave him a four-year $120 million deal. Three months later he’s shipped off to Indianapolis. Stunning is the perfect perfect word. But again, I just it’s one of those things where they gave this group eight games. Gave this group eight games and said, “Let’s see what we have. Let’s see what we can do. And as the losses piled up, again, part of the reason was not because of this core. It’s because of quarterback play, poor coaching, a lot of those others, a lot of those other issues. But at the crux of the day, what it comes down to is they do not feel that this core is going to be good enough to be able to actually compete for a championship. Right, wrong, or indifferent, you do not make these moves otherwise. They better get the right quarterback because that’s what it comes down to. Now you’re blowing it up. The other thing is this, right? So, I I saw I saw Diana Rini say like, “Oh, they gutted a top five defense in the league.” Well, you need a good offense if you want to win in this league. You need Well, maybe maybe it was top five in talent, but Steve Wils and Aaron Glenn have done a terrible job with this defense overall. So, that’s why they’re nowhere near where they should be from a talent standpoint. Sure, but they also need the quarterback. They also need the offensive pieces. And the focus should not be on building a top five defense to win a championship. The focus should be on building a top five offense and a good enough defense to help out along the way. In the modern NFL, you cannot be led solely by defense. It has to be a balance. You need the offense to be competent. And for the Jets, they have not been. And they essentially said, “We’re going to shift that way of thinking. We’re going to shift the way we operate from a front office perspective. Focus all in on the offense. We’ve got the pieces along the offensive line. We’ve got a receiver. Now, let’s go after get our quarterback in the draft and let’s go from there. The other piece I will say here is this. There’s a lot of draft capital here and there are going to be some quarterbacks that are going to be on the market this upcoming season where if the Jets do not get a top overall pick, they do not get a chance to go after Fernando Mendoza or do not fall in love with any of these guys, there’s also a chance that they could trade some of this capital for a quarterback that may want out of a situation that he’s currently in. Not saying that’s likely, but now there’s a lot more flexibility to get whatever quarterback they want to choose. Again, I’m not saying it’s the right decision. I’m just giving you exactly what the thought process is on their end. I think part of the reason they also were willing to move on from Sauce is they like Ay Thomas and Brandon Stevens has played a lot better. So, in their eyes, S became expendable and the return was too good to pass up. I just think trading both, it should have been either one or the other. I and and and honestly, Nick, at this point, we still got uh another 40 minutes till the deadline. They should trade Breeze. They should tra trade Quincy. If they’re not in your plans, move on from them. Especially the guys that are free agents. But like, I don’t want to trade Germaine Johnson. I want to keep him. You need pass rushers. Like, that’s what wins you games in the NFL beyond quarterback play. Keep him. Keep And like are you going to trade Will McDonald this like how like you have enough picks. You now need good players. You need to turn these picks now once again into good players. like you’re never going to win without getting the quarterback, which you were in position regardless of either having Sauce or Quinn. You were in position to get that guy anyway. So now it’s like you’re completely resetting your roster. This they they should not get like, oh, it’s going to take three years to build it back up. Rebuilds in the NFL do not take that long. This better turn around fast if they get the right quarterback and they have the right coach. The problem is the coach is also the GM. So I don’t know how many Jeff have any faith in this regime making all the decisions. Well, he’s not the GM. I will say that he is the GM. Any big decision Aaron Glenn signs off on. Woody referred to Muji as Glenn’s sidekick. Yeah, that’s ridiculous. But I I also like the stuff Muji’s done. Like a lot of these players picked up on these trades are Muji type players. Players that were very similar to what they did out in Denver when he was working with the Broncos. This is not Muji is sitting on the side and that’s and that’s it. There’s quality return from these two players. The question now is how far do you go? And quite frankly, if you given up two allp pro talents, there’s go all in. Trade them all. I’m I’m with you. Trade all. You just don’t don’t got if you’re gonna rip off the bandit like this, rip it completely off. Don’t just get to the edge and say, “Well, we kind of want to keep our running back for the final nine games of the season.” There’s no point to that. Whether it’s a third, whether it’s a fourth, ship it off and then move from there. I look, I I completely agree. I would tra I would trade everyone honestly because you’re blowing the whole thing up. Now, you want as many picks as possible. Great. you’re you’re not planning to win next year. You’re not because they’re going to say, “Well, we have our three first round picks in 2027 we need to use.” So, you know what? Let’s let’s let’s let’s blow the whole thing up because you have no intention of now trying to win next year. Even though you increase season ticket prices, you have no intention of actually trying to win games next year. I It’s again, it really is shocking to say the least because not even two years ago, we were saying that this team was good enough to be a playoff team, but needed a quarterback. I mean, we were looking at Aaron Rogers saying if he was healthy, the 2023 team was going to the playoffs. And I think that’s still a fair statement to make. And to see where it has gone since then, 2024 to now, it is shocking. Absolutely shocking to say the least. Uh I don’t think they’re going to win many more games the rest of the year. I think uh it’s going to be very difficult moving forward. Uh, but it’s really going to come down, as it always is, what the quarterback evaluation looks like. Can you trust this coaching staff? Can you trust Tanner Angstrand to build an offense that a rookie quarterback can come in and play well? If that’s the case, there’s going to be some help. There’s going to be some positivity for the Jets. They’ve got five first round picks, three second round picks in the next two drafts. That is not Trump change. That is very significant draft capital. They are going to hope that they can get the kind of quarterback, the kind of players that the 2000 draft class had, that the 2022 draft class has that they just shipped off. But it’s starting all over again. They have they have begun a rebuild and there’s no sense in holding it off anymore. It’s a full-on tearown. Now, there is uh one caveat to that tear down. Breaking sports news on the tree show. Wilson not be a part of the tear down. According to Connor Hughes of SNY, he spoke to a team that called the Jets about Garrett with saw stealth feeling around the NFL as anyone could be had. Not the case with Wilson. Conversations did not progress. He’s untouchable. They cannot trade away no Wilson. That to me is malpractice because you could say what you want about Sauce and Quinn. They’re still really good football players. They’re on defense. This Jets regime is now going to be defined by the quarterback they draft in all likelihood in the top three in April. And Garrett Wilson has proven to be quarterback proof. He can ball with anyone throwing to him. We’ve seen it. So, you need to give that number one quarterback that you’re taking every opportunity to not be failed like Sam Darnold was. And that’s why Garrett Wilson should be untouchable. So that I I I don’t trust his regime, but I do agree with the idea that Garrett’s untouchable. That’s at least smart. He should be untouchable. The only guys that I think are going to be fully untouchable are the entire offensive line, the two tackles, and Garrett Wilson. Outside of that, there’s really no argument to be made. The tackles are untouchable. Someone called you about Titman or Simpson, you would you would think about it. Yeah. No, like I’m saying the offense, I think the offensive line in general, but specifically the tackles. They’re not getting moved. Garrett Wilson not getting moved. Um, you know, I I’ve consistently said if you want to win in the National Football League, you have to have five things. You have to have five positions of value that you have great players in. Quarterback, wide receiver, left tackle, defensive end, or defensive tackle, and then quarterback. The Jets had close to it, but couldn’t find the quarterback. Now, they are essentially saying, “We’ll keep the receiver. We have the tackles. We’ll regroup on the defensive end and the quarterback and start from there.” It’s it’s a gamble. The Jets still need to find a quality number two wide receiver. I think they’re hoping that AD Mitchell becomes that number two guy. But it’s very, very clear that this team, the way that this team was built before with the previous regime is not going to matter anymore. It needs to be a complete front office overhaul and how they are acting and how they are planning. And you saw that today. If we can just complete a pass, it would look good. Is it still going to look good if you trade away your entire team? Is it just complete a pass and they’ll still be fine? I I like the Saints to beat the Jets this year. I saw a comment. I like the Saints to beat the Jets uh in the next few weeks. I I’ll just put that out there. I think this is this is crash course for the number one overall thing. I don’t know, man. The Jets easily can win a game they’re not supposed to even even with the talent now being stripped down. Sure. But I actually trust Kell Moore as a coach a little bit more right now based on how he handles and how he’s able to build an offense and and try to build a functioning offense with such poor uh poor talent around him. Hey, let me ask you something. What do you think the hugs were like between Glenn and Woody today? I hug him every day. I hug him every day. Oh, man. Listen, it’s it’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better. I’ll put it that way. This still Oh, yeah. I mean, I I don’t want them to win another game this year. I I don’t care. I mean, they’ve now told you that the this regime is not going anywhere. So, you know, would it be nice to see some wins? I guess, right? But like Aaron Glenn could be the worst coach ever. He’s not getting fired now. So, like my hope was that if I was going to have to go through a season of hell, one or two wins, at least it’d give us the first pick and an offensive coach at the end of it who wanted to be here to take a quarterback. Now, they’re not going anywhere. I mean, the only the only thing that could change of significance for the Jets in the offseason is the coordinators. That’s it. Glenn’s not going anywhere. Muji’s not going anywhere. They’re all going to be here. And I don’t think Ang should go either because I actually like what I’ve seen from him so far this season. I I want to see him with a competent quarterback. But again, uh it’s, you know, a couple years ago, we talked about at the end of the 2023 season when the Jets won that game against New England in Foxboro and the argument was should they tank, should they try to lose? And everyone was saying, well, it’s it’s about building momentum for the following season. That’s completely different. there there is no momentum to build when you know a large crux of this roster is not going to be returning or there are going to be new pieces that are coming in in free agency in the draft. Uh it’s just quite frankly where we’re at right now. The Jets had to make that decision. They made it and now they’re going to have to live with the fact that quite frankly there’s going to be a lot of empty seats at Metife Stadium for the rest of the year. I Yeah, I mean there was going to be empty seats anyway, but now there there’s really nothing. I mean, if they win, great. But it’s not going to make any difference. Like, they’re tearing down. If they win, it now hurts the future if they win because because there is no momentum to build when you have $90 million in cap space and most of that is going to retooling the entire roster. It’s there’s no point to it now. I mean, if they’re winning because the O line’s playing great and, you know, the younger players are making plays, that that to me is a little different. if Glenn like has a great game plan and the defense bounces back or like there’s things you could point to where like I don’t want to say winning means nothing, but I mean at the end of the day they’re not gonna win that many games. Like they’re just they’re not good enough to win that enough games. Their coaching is terrible and the roster now is a lot worse. So just they’re not going to win that many games anyway. Yeah. I like it’s you get the number one pick and if you want to trade that number one pick for assets if you don’t trust Fernando Meno why not why not let’s just make all the trades. Let’s just keep trading down so we have every pick ever. All right, we’ll be with the Thunder. It’s about falling in love with the right quarterback. So, if they don’t like the quarterback from this class and they’ve got a really high draft pick, then you want to be able to maneuver around and develop and and pick some good players and keep yourself versatile moving forward. If they fall in love with a guy, then you want it to be with the number one overall pick and move forward with that. It’s just it’s too early to tell obviously and all we know just based on what we’ve seen is that the Jets are going to have a lot of maneuverability on draft day for day one. What a day for the New York Jets. And we’re not done yet, folks. 30 minutes till the trade deadline. Hit the like button. Make sure you are subscribed to the channel. Aaron Glenn is wheeling and dealing. He does not care about any of your favorite players. He is saying, “Get the hell out. We want all the picks.” Who want to fly with them? Amazing. The by-week comes and the Jets are the team that is blowing the whole thing up. We have not seen an NFL fire sale like this in a very very long time. It’s been It’s rare. This is rare what we have seen. the Dolphins. We thought the Dolphins would be in a fire sale with Wadd and you know I know they trade Jaylen Phillips, Bradley Chub, all those guys are in contention, but nothing to this extent. Two allp pro players getting shipped off in a matter of hours. I haven’t seen anything like this. Crazy. Absolutely crazy. But that is where we’re at. Nick, I appreciate you calling in. If the Jets make another deal, please call back and we’ll get your instant thoughts. Absolutely. Thanks, buddy. Nick Farrier from Jets Xfactor with us there. Hit the like button if you guys are tuned in. We are going to do a raffle at the end of the show today. Uh it won’t be for a current Jet. They might not be on the team by the time we do the raffle. Joe Nameoth, those never go out of style. Joe Kleco, Curtis Martin, Wayne Creette, Derel Rivas, and Nick Mangled are your options for a Jet jersey. I mean, I I’m not wearing any current Jet jersey again. I mean, we’ll see. Hopefully, they keep Germaine. I have that one. I get you could wear Garrett. You could wear Germaine. I have a Quincy. That’s not going to That’s not going to work anymore. I have a Quinnon that’s done. Um, yeah. I mean, Bree, I have a Bree one, too, but that’s not going to be You can’t use that. Even if they don’t trade him today, he’s not going to be brought back. Unbelievable. Uh, all right. A bunch of you are on hold. I appreciate that. Omar, thank you for gifting a membership. Violent Action, thank you for gifting a membership. Mike Primes, thank you for gifting five channel memberships here. I just want to get to the remaining super chats here because they’ve been building up and I promise uh we will get back to your calls momentarily here. Trade deadline officially is in 29 minutes. We know the Jets have have traded Quinnon Williams. We know the Jets have traded Sauce Gardner does not feel real but it has happened. God Phantom says 19 months of pain. Jason says this team is draining. Rebuild again. Sucks to be a Jeff fan. They that I think is what’s so sad about all this. This didn’t need to be a full-on tear down. If they if they actually had competent coaching, this team could have won games. If they actually had the right people in charge to coach up the talent that is here, they wouldn’t need to do this. They felt like they needed to do this. And they’re justifying it by being like, “Well, the talent’s actually not as good as we thought.” Woody Johnson came out last year said the most talented roster he’s ever had. Aaron Glenn took the job and brought back a lot of that talent. Said it’s coaching. These guys need to be coached, right? Right. The Jets last year led the NFL in blown fourth quarter leads. That’s coaching, right? They had the lead. They couldn’t hold the lead because they’re poorly coached. This year, they can’t even get to the fourth quarter with a lead because they suck. They’re horribly coached and they obviously downgraded that quarterback, but they shouldn’t be this bad. Uno says, “Jake, after training good players for future picks, I hope we get great picks. If not, we’re missing the playoffs.” Agreed. 25. As much as I love Q and Sauce, the hul from the trades are good. However, it’s all contingent on the players we get. Yeah, we we all love the picks. I don’t like the people that are in charge of making the picks, and that scares me. I hope they’re great at their jobs. So far, they’ve been horrendous. Clim’s corner says, “Long time no talk, Jake. My heart hurts. I get it. Love the returns, but come on.” In the words of Beningo, “Oh, the pain.” Joe might be happy. The two players he calls the most overrated are Saw and Quinn. So, I don’t know how Joe’s going to feel. I will call him tonight and see if we can get him on the show tomorrow to get his thoughts. I know Joe didn’t want them to trade Breece. Let’s see if they do trade Breece. They should trade Breece. If they have if they have no intention of keeping him, then they should trade him. It makes no It makes no sense. Hollywood Rio player reaction again. I love the trades personally. I mean, why not? Can it get any worse? Then again, it’s the Jets. It could always get worse. Got to keep Breeze, though. Yeah. I mean, you don’t keep Bree if you’re not going to extend him. Get rid of him. You’re blowing it up. You want my reaction to the sauce trade again? Here it is. Do we have some something cooking here? Oh my. Oh my lord. Lord, no. Holy crap. What? Holy crap. Ian Rapaort. 90 seconds ago, the Jets are trading Sauce Gardner to the Indianapolis Colts. Blockbuster. What? This is not. And this is the real Ian Rapaort. Diana Rsini now saying the same thing. The Jets are trading Sauce Gardner to the Indianapolis Colts. S tweeted New York. It’s been real. What? They just signed him to an extension. They just got They just gave him an extension that has not even kicked in yet. There’s two years left on his rookie deal. They picked up the fifth year option. So, it’s this year and next year. The extension does not kick in until the following two seasons. What? And we don’t have the return yet because that’s how I’m going to No, we don’t have the return yet. But you got to keep in mind a couple of things. Not I’m not talking about just about the Colts side here, but the Colts are desperate for a corner and a high level corner and the Colt because Charvarius Ward was hurt. Uh earlier in the year they had the guy from uh Miami who um retired. So they are in a mess here. Uh they Oh, the Colts are trading two first round picks. Wow. According Adam Shfter to the Jets for Sauce Gardner. Wow. You feel better now? I I I feel a lot better, but I don’t I don’t necessarily love it. Like, what what’s the plan? You just gave this guy a huge extension. He’s a two-time first team all pro. I understand he doesn’t have an interception this year, but if you watch Saw, he’s still been their best defensive player. He covers guys as well as anyone in any any advanced stat you want to look at. It’s two first round picks. I mean, the Colts right now, they’re it’d be pick 32 technically, right? Like, it’s going to be a late a late first this year. Yeah, but I have to tell you, I love this trade for the Jets. I love this trade for the Jets. And I know what you’re saying. I I would look at a couple of things here. A, yeah, you did just pay him. This defense has been bad this year. Nowhere near as good. I know he’s a I know he’s a very good corner. I They just maximized him. And they get the money off the books, too. And you get two first round picks for him. Like even though it’s a late one, if if you know if they do have a a deep run in the postseason, this is I think this is a great trade for the Jets. They do have depth in the corner. I’ve try I’ll try to put myself inside the Jets in their thought process. Brandon Stevens after a brutal start who they paid from the Ravens in free agency has actually played pretty well. He’s been good. They drafted A Thomas out of Florida State in the third round. He was excellent in his first game starting for Sauce, who had a concussion and didn’t play in the game against Cincinnati. So, I think they look at it like, okay, we already made a Brownley trade earlier this year from the Titans. He’s our new nickel. We traded Michael Carter. We have Stevens who we paid and we like Az Thomas. Sauce in their eyes, I think, became expendable and they maximized his return. But, man, I I just I my initial reaction is I don’t love it because this is a guy that was supposed to be a foundational piece. You paid him and this quickly you changed your mind and said we’re good. I I I don’t love it. The So, if you’re just joining us, the Jets, according to Adam, what a day. What a day. Now, we figured out what their plan is, right? Because this is before we knew Quinn was being traded. Their plan was to blow the whole thing up. So, I guess I won’t be needing this jersey anymore. See you later. Uh, I doubt Breece is going to be here by four o’clock, but even if he is, I guess I won’t be needing this one anymore. I got an Aaron Rogers jersey I just found. Don’t need that one. Uh, let’s see. Oh, Justin Fields. Yeah, see you later. Uh, what else do we have here? Oh, S Gardner jersey. Won’t be needing that one. Um, oh, Germaine Johnson. Can we keep him? You know, he’s really good at a premium position. Can we keep him? And they better keep Garrett, which I think they’re going to. I mean, that’s it. We’re down to two jerseys that are wearable. Wonderful. The good news is all these jerseys I’m holding in my hands, they cost me 30 bucks a pop, so I’ll survive. But god, just brutal. If you subscribe to my Patreon and message me on the Discord, I’ll give you the link where you could get your jerseys for 30 bucks as well. Because if you invest in actual jerseys as a Jet fan, you get screwed over. You get screwed over because this is what happens. We get excited about these players and then they’re gone. See you later. [Applause] AG was done flying with Quinn and Sauce. That’s for sure. All right, super chats and then your calls. Let’s get to them. Let’s say hello to Rick who’s next. Hey, Rick. Oh, man. Jake, I’m getting too old for this, Jake. We we just had the rebuild when we had that wonderful first round with Garrett and JJ and Sauce and AVT. And now such a short time later, we’re we’re doing this again. This is insane. You know, I’ve been preaching about the the coaching situation. I understand your point. you want to give him to the end of the year, but he has really demonstrated in a very short period of time that he’s just very poor in his football IQ. And I don’t think that, you know, there’s certain things either you have it or you don’t. So, what I anticipate is going to happen is like you said, we’re going to make all these draft picks, and you can make another great draft like the Jets did in whatever year it was, 21, 22, um, you could do that again, but if you don’t have the right coach, it’s the same old story. And how the the if you take in if you put in a phone booth Joe uh I mean uh Fields Justin Fields, Aaron Glenn and Woody Johnson. My question is what would the overunder be on their football IQ? I I’m making it a 10 and that’s with the three of them combined. I mean, it’s just not a smart bunch. And uh it’s just depressing because I was really excited when they got Salah and Joe Douglas. And yes, they did. They laid the foundation. They couldn’t coach it through at least completely. Joe Douglas was great at the draft, but he didn’t know how to do it during the regular season with trading. Muji, as you say correct correctly, is doing a really nice job with the regular season trades. I wish Joe Douglas knew how to do that. But it remains to be seen how good he’s going to be, you know, with his drafting ability. And even if you get the right guys, if you don’t have the right coach, what’s the difference? We’re going to be, you know, like you said, we’ll be doing the same thing a year from now or two years from now and realizing it ain’t happening. When you watch Sam Darnold the other night and he was like 16 for 16, Rick, we were losing you with your audio there, but yeah, I mean that Sam Darnold is the mistake they can’t replicate where you actually picked the right quarterback, but because you failed him from a coaching and roster standpoint, it didn’t work. And then Carolina failed him, too. That’s never talked about. But that’s that’s the the the the problem here, right? I understand what the strategy now is getting picks, tearing it down. I don’t trust these people to pick the right quarterback and actually coach up the right quarterback. I don’t I Aaron Glenn has shown me nothing. If he didn’t, if he wasn’t a great Jet 30 years ago, he wouldn’t have this staunch line of defense from some of the fan base. He’s been terrible. He hasn’t been bad. He’s been terrible. He was He’s won one game, thank God. But like, we got to see real improvement. And now there’s like this built-in excuse for them just to be bad the whole rest of the year, huh? They’re blowing it up. Well, you can’t expect the Jets to win any games. They just traded Saw and Quinn. So, it’s just like we’re now all in with this regime that I have major doubts on, and I hope they’re great, but the picks are nice. The returns, yeah, they they it’s not like they traded them away for a bag of like used footballs. They maximize the value on two Allp Pro players 100%. I will not criticize the returns, but they already had $75 million in cap space this year. Could you trade one of them and not both of them? You trade both of them? Like some of these picks are going to go to guess what? Replacing Sauce Gardner and Quinn Williams unless they they found a legit star in a Thomas or Brandon Stevens continues to play this well after a bad start. You know, the the one thing I’ll give Darren Muji credit for, the inseason trades have been very good, but this is a different level of inseason trade, man. These are all prolevel players you’re getting rid of. So hopefully they they they know what they’re doing. But everything the Jets do now going forward has nothing to do with the remaining nine games this year. It’s all about the draft, all about the off seasonason. Really, next year doesn’t even mean that much in the regular season. Like, sure, they could catch lightning in the bottle if they draft the next Jaden Daniels or CJ Stout who has his great rookie year, but they now have a built-in excuse to not even try and win next year. It’s well, we’re laying the foundation. We have three first round picks in 2027. Great. So, next year will be 16 years without the playoffs, and we’ll go into year three, a make or break year three for Glenn and Muji, where if they don’t make the playoffs, the playoff drought will reach what? 17, 18. And I’m bad at math, but it just it’s it sucks. Nile says, “Good riddens. Bottom line, those guys aren’t winners.” See, you say they’re not winners. They’re now going to go elsewhere and win. Watch. It happens all the time. Aaron Rogers not a winner either, right? Oh, he goes to the Steelers. Guess what? He’s winning all of a sudden. All these guys, they go elsewhere, they win. All these guys. Sam Darnold wasn’t a winner either. Had to get rid of him. I mean, the list is on and on of of Jets who go elsewhere and have success. It’s going to happen again. Rick says, “I’m 67. Last time I’m thinking I’m going to live long enough to see good football.” I I mean, to the to the long-suffering Jet fan, you’re in. Unless they catch lightning in the bottle with a quarterback, this team’s not winning [ __ ] next year. Hate to say it. I’m sure by training camp, the people who were calling me this year tell me this team was going to win 11 games or more. you know, the Peter Castros, the JJ’s, Justin Fields, Ring of Honor, you know, the people Will Parkinson having them at nine wins, like all the people who want to be optimistic, God bless you. They’re going to go into next year with an overunder probably around four and a half with a rookie quarterback starting for them. And it and if we had faith in the coach getting the most out of his players, they could win more than that and be competitive next year. I don’t have any faith in the head coach. That’s why I’d like to see some real competency over the next nine weeks, but if they lose, it’s just going to be blamed on, well, the talent’s not any good now. Jake, what do you expect? And it’s like, really? We we just gave them a get out of jail free car for two more years. They better be good at their jobs. Dad says, I could feel the fire sale at one jet drive all the way here from the UK. I am really shocked, although I do not know why. I wouldn’t be surprised if it comes out in three years that Woody has asked Glenn to tank the rest of the year. I mean, that at least would be believable. But you know what’s scary? They weren’t trying to tank. They were trying to tank. They wouldn’t have given Justin Fields $40 million, 30 of it guaranteed. They wouldn’t have split Aaron Rogers cap hit over two years. They thought they could take a team last year that won five games, but lost several games because of their kicker and lost games because of their defense collapsing because they were poorly coached, right? Most penalized team in the league. They felt they could come in and they could be competitive with this roster. That’s why they signed Fields. Play good defense. Run the ball. That’s how we’re going to win. Remember Glenn was asked, “Hey, can you really do that in today’s NFL?” And he goes, “Well, the Eagles just won the Super Bowl.” You’re not the Eagles, bro. So, look, we hope he improves, gets better, learns all that. That’s what every Jet fan should be rooting for. But I have major doubts about the the the the coach is also the GM. The coach has looked inept for a lot of this year. He’s now overseeing this full rebuild. I just I I hope it works. I do. People think I don’t like Aaron Glenn. No, I don’t like losing. And this guy has only been a part of losing since he’s been here. And his decision-m has been highly questionable. He’s the GM and the coach. He’s never done either role. Woody has never given a guy this much power that has never had previous experience before. He didn’t hire Parcels. That’s the last time the Jets had a coach who was also their GM. Deacto decision maker. He inherited the Parcels regime, if you will, right in 2000. That wasn’t his hire. Aaron Glenn might be awesome. I don’t know. What I’ve seen so far is a coach that’s not very good. Now, he’s also the GM. He’s choosing to jettison our talent and pick new players. Great. He’s also the same guy that chose to pick Justin Fields as his quarterback to retain Michael Clemens and Tony Adams to pay S Gardner to pay Jamie and Sherwood. Sherwood’s been terrible. And Sauce they just traded. So I I just I have doubts. The picks are great. It’s not about the picks. It’s I didn’t think this needed to be a fullon rebuild. They had to now pivot to this to justify their record being one and seven. Oh well, you know, the talent’s actually not that good. Woody, we got to break it down and we’ll show you how it’s done. They they have not earned the opportunity to do that. But now, I mean, we got to live with it. They made the decision. I just hope they’re good. I have doubts. Jason in Jerusalem says, “Jets are always a year away from being a year away.” That’s how it feels. Donna says, “Maybe it’s time I for my husband’s favorite team, the Browns.” Big big Jets Browns game on Sunday, huh? Any Jet fan who has extra tickets, I’d be happy to donate them to listeners who can actually use them if there’s people who actually want to go. Peter W says, “It all comes down to Glenn’s ability regardless, man. I don’t want to suck for two more years.” They’re They’re not going to be good next year if they do not get lightning in the bottle from the rookie quarterback they’re taking. They won’t. What What’s the path for the Jets to be good next year? They draft a Jaden Daniels or CJ Stra. And you know what’s scary? See, they could draft a quarterback that shows you something. But Glenn doesn’t improve. He’s still a bad coach, but he might still get a third year cuz it’s going to be We need more time. We have three first round picks in 2027. We got to use those picks. I don’t know, man. I hope Aaron Glenn is a great coach and general manager, but now we’re tied tied with him for two more years, so he better be good. I’m rooting for him to be good. Mickey, I’ve been the biggest AG hater, but this is the first time. I’m excited about the team in a long time. Never been a Sauce guy. Love the moves. You’re going to love the moves that this team wins four games in 2026. I don’t know. Really, it comes down to the quarterback. Also, if there’s another breaking Jets trade, write it in the comments here. We’re 10 minutes away from the deadline. The latest, for those tuning in late, I know we got 2,000 of you in here. Bree wants out. We’ll see if the Jets actually trade him. If they don’t trade him, they better extend him because if you lose him for nothing in the off season, that defeats what you’re doing today. If you made the decision to blow it up, then blow it up. You don’t don’t be half pregnant. Either you’re blowing it up or you’re not. But keeping Bree Hall and then losing him for nothing, I don’t think you’re going to get a comp pick for him. They’re going to spend money in free agency. It’s going to cancel out the comp pick they maybe would get. Shifty Niners talk says moral victory. How about Germaine to the Niners for a third? I need at least a second before I consider trading Germaine. And I don’t want to trade him. He’s a pass rusher who’s a leader who said he wants to be here. Is made of the right stuff. Why are we get like if this team’s ever going to be good? You know what? They’re going to need an edge rusher who could stop the run. Quinn and I understood trading sauce too good of a deal to turn down. You could argue it. I get it. What you can’t Germaine for a second. Really? You have enough picks? Like everyone loves the idea of picks. You now have to take a player with those picks that’s as good as the player that you just traded away. I already have two second round picks next year. I don’t need to get rid of Germaine Johnson. Let’s keep him. Germaine Johnson’s a guy that should be here. Do not trade him. I’ll be very upset if they traded Germaine. More upset over Sauce, honestly, and Quinn because at least those returns I could justify. Germaine for a second rounder when I already now have two twos this year and three ones next year. I’m good on picks. You know what? I need good football players. I probably need a good head coach. TBD if we have one or not. Not feeling great about it, but I don’t want to trade Germaine Johnson. Barney says, “Breaking Jake has been traded from YouTube to ESPN. Just trolling you rock today.” I appreciate you, Barney. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks to all the Asmaniacs who are in the comments section. Couple of you called in. We had a Bobby Midnight call on uh ESPN New York today, which was funny. So, shout out to everyone who tuned in. Bart’s back tomorrow. He was at Nick Mangled’s funeral today, which is why I was filling in uh with Carlin on ESPN. Bernard says, “RIP Nick Mangled.” Amen. Amen. Phantom Lights in the raffle for one. So is Bronx Jet fan. Tomorrow morning is our weekly raffle. We got three signed prizes including a signed Nick Mangled football, a signed Wayne Crebette football and a signed Justin Fields jersey. Uh, I have a bunch of Brie signed stuff that’s no longer going to be any good in maybe eight minutes and some saw signed stuff that is now not going to be any good either. So, I’ll deal with that in future raffles. Macy says, “My Quinn shirt in the mail already.” Absolutely. Before it arrives, so these trades mean 100%. Glenn is back guaranteed. No two ways about it. He’s safe, it seems. Yeah. Apologies to anyone who recently won a Quinnon Williams jersey on the show. The two safest Jets we thought were Quinnon and Sauce, right? Gar like a defensive players. Obviously Garrett’s the safest of any if you can own any Jet players jersey, Garrett Wilson is probably the safest you can own right now. Maybe Arma. Crazy. Frankie Castle can’t trade breeze rookie quarterback gonna need him. Agreed. I would pay him. I don’t know if they’re going to big fella. Lock this in. We are winning Sunday. It wouldn’t surprise me. Wouldn’t surprise me. The Browns stink. Jets have to include therapist with PSL packages. Could you imagine increasing your season ticket prices and now doing this saying you’re not trying to even win now next year? Because winning is not the goal next year. It’s developing a rookie quarterback and they’ll use the we have three first round picks in 2027. So, we’re building it. This is actually This isn’t year one for Aaron Glenn and Darren Muji. This is year zero. We’re starting over. Year one is actually next year. That’s going to be the new thing that you hear someone put out there who’s the mouthpiece for this regime. This is actually year zero. We’re starting over. We’re not here to win now. Even though we said we were going to from the very beginning, we denied this being a rebuild. Remember that, Aaron Glenn? I do. We’re here to win now and we’re looking forward to it. So, any questions? Yeah. The when the winning exactly when does that start? Not the moral wins, the actual wins. [Music] I mean, if they get the right quarterback, it can be next year. It’s a big if with especially because they’re they’re they thought they had their guy in Justin Fields. He’s they said he’s never been coached up properly. We’re going to be the ones to coach him up. Aaron Glenn got offended that Justin Fields was even being questioned for being benched in the London game. Remember what type of question is that? They benched him two quarters later. So clearly they they just have quite the feel for quarterback evaluation and how to coach offense. God, I’m just I just I’m so sick of losing, man. Carlos says, “Just wanted to say Nick Ferry, you’re the man, my fellow Rhode Islander. Jake, you’re awesome as well. Appreciate you, Carlos.” Frankie says, “Fields cannot be the bridge.” I agree. He cannot be the bridge. I don’t think he will be. Bang says 2027 three first rounders big game hunting for Arch. Can we stop with Arch Manning? I’m not entertaining it. Michael says how many they’re going to take a quarterback this year. Bang. They’re not waiting until 27 to take Arch Manning who may or may not come out. And even if he does come out, how do we know he doesn’t pull what his uh his uncle did and say I’m not going to the Jets? How many Super Bowls in the future for Quinn sauce? I mean Quinn probably none if he stays with the Cowboys as long as Jerry’s there. But Sauce will Sauce will continue to be Sauce. What? Watch. I guarantee you Sauce will have an interception like his first game with the Colts, right? You I I like honestly I cannot wait to make that bet on FanDuel. I guarantee you S Gardner will have an interception. If not in his first game, then soon. Fire Aaron Glenn. I don’t want to know if we have the right head coach in 27. I want to know if we have the right head coach now. Hire someone experienced. They’re not going to, man. We the biggest takeaway from today, whether you’re pro the moves against the moves, the biggest takeaway from the Jets fire sale, which is what this now is, if you trade away your two best defensive players, the biggest takeaway is that this regime is here for all of this year. Even if they lose by 30 in every game, they could finish now 1 and 16. They’re back. Do I think they finish one and 16? No. They probably win another game or so even with the lack of a sauce or Quinn. They just won without sauce and Garrett against the Bengals out of nowhere. They’ll win another game or so. But the bottom line is this. This regime gets all of this year. They get all of next year. And they probably are going to get 2027 because they’ll say, “We got to use our picks. We need a third year.” And that third year will be the make or break year. And then they’ll be fired when they miss the playoffs. Hopefully, we have made the playoffs by then, but it’s going to come down to who the quarterback is. And even if you had the right quarterback, do you have the right coach? Sam Darnold was the right quarterback. They didn’t have the right coach. They have the right roster. There’s just so many questions. We all love the idea of draft picks. That’s awesome, man. Now, now turn those draft picks into good players, which the Jets actually did with a Quinnon Williams and Sauce Gardner, but they didn’t win with those guys because they were never in the right situation to win. And that’s the the crime in it all. Someone tell me what Tannab’s saying on ESPN right now. My co-host on Sundays. Sure. He loves these moves. Chris says, “Why should we all watch this team the next three years? All I get is stomach aches and increased ticket prices.” I I mean, you shouldn’t you shouldn’t renew your tickets if they increased your prices. I recommend any Jet fan who loves going to games, just go on the secondary market and buy your tickets there. You’ll save money. You’ll save money. Dan says, “Can they trade Clemens and Lazard?” The fact that Lazard is still here is shocking, right? Are they just going to release him after the deadline here? We have three minutes till the deadline. I would say the fact that there has not been a Breeze deal at this point probably means he’s going to be here. Are they going to extend him? I hope. I doubt it, though. Let Muji Cook. We’ve been losers with Sauce and Quinn. We could lose this year without him. Great Jets. Wish them the best. I wish both those guys the best. Understanding your point, let Muji cook. It’s a little different when you talk about these level of trades, right? Give Muji credit for Brownley. Give Muji credit for Briggs and Phillips. These are Aaron Glenn decisions though, right? Like you talk about trading a guy you just extended, made him the highest paid corner in the league and eight games later you’re saying see you. Aaron Glenn is the de facto GM as well as the ultimate decider here. Same with Quinnon. And Quinnon Quinn apparently was very unhappy. I don’t blame him for a second. All he’s known is losing. All right. This was Connor Hughes. I just saw this and pulled. This was Connor Hughes on SNY on the Quinnon trade. Williams relationship with the Jets has been deteriorating. This goes all the way back to when they made the decision to move on from Aaron Rodgers. That’s when things started to change with Quinnon Williams and with the New York Jets. When Aaron Glenn was then very critical of Quinton Williams in a one-on-one meeting and then critical of him publicly at the NFL combine to us, that is when things truly started to spiral and spiral and spiral for Quinnon Williams and the Jets. The incessant losing has not been bad. I was told that on three separate occasions, Quinnon Williams requested a trade from the New York Jets. That on three different occasions, Quinnon requested a trade from the Jets. Hit he he let the Jets know that he had zero plans to extend him. Again, his contract uh is out of guaranteed money after this year. Just like 4.95 million left in guaranteed money after this year. Quinnon Williams had stressed to the Jets time and time and time again that he wanted to rework his deal. Wanted to rework the deal. The Jets rebuffed that. The losing a deterioration of a relationship with Aaron Glenn, got Quinnon Williams to the point where he said, “I want to be gone.” Now, the Jets denied this when I asked them that, but I had heard from a source very close to Quinn and Williams, that he actually met with uh members of the Jets brass, Darren Muji and Aaron Glenn, and said he wanted to go out. The relation the uh meeting did not go particularly well, and Quinnon wasn’t sure he was actually going to get traded. Now, they have obviously reached an agreement here with the Dallas Cowboys. He’s reunited with Aaron White, his defensive line coach, who he was very, very close with with uh the New York Jets. Um they are reunited and now Dallas obviously reloading. I I mean look the return for Quinnon Williams was tremendous. The fact that the relationship at Souard you could have saw this coming. The guy’s been here since 2019. He’s been through Gase. He’s been through Salah. He’s been through Ober. He’s been through Glenn. Glenn telling him this is not a rebuild. And then the team goes out there and they start one and seven. I get why Quinnon wanted out. I wish him well. they, you know, he’ll be happy in Dallas. He’s going to a team that certainly it’s not great, but at least they’ll be in the mix. You know, they’ll rework his deal now after what they gave up. So, I wish Quinnon well, man. He was a great Jet that unfortunately this team was just bad for so long. Eventually, being a jet was too much for him. I don’t blame him. The returns they got for Quinn and the returns that they got for Sauce are excellent. I just have major questions about the people who are now in charge of rebuilding this team because I question if it needed needed to be a full-on tear down rebuild in the first place. And now the deadline is officially passed. I have no idea why they didn’t trade Quincy if you were going to trade Quinn. I think that’s a mistake. I have no idea why you didn’t trade Bree. It better be because you’re going to extend him. But the NFL trade deadline is officially over and I keep, you know, checking Twitter to see if we get like a last second like, hey, this was just filed at 359 and now it’s being announced. You know, baseball fans remember Justin Berlander when he was dealt that happened to the Astros years ago and Grankkey the same thing. But it feels like Bree is here, which I think means you better extend him. Don’t lose him for nothing. Quincy still here. Lazard is still here. Clemens is still here. JJ is still here. Will McDonald is still here. So, the the biggest moves were Saw and Quinn. And when I say big moves, I mean gigantic seismic franchise altering moves. Unbelievable. Hit the like button if you’re one of the 1900 in here live. Let’s get over a thousand likes. We’re doing a jersey raffle at the end. Won’t be a current chat. Nick Mangle, Derrell Rivas, Wayne Crebette, Curtis Martin, Joe Cleco, Broadway Joe, Paulie in the raffle for five by gifting five channel memberships. I just might play the draft sounder on loop now, Kyle Clipton. Except now people know you’re blowing it up. Good luck getting a third. You wanted for Bree, which was always going to be tough. They were never going to get a third for Bree. I hope Kyle, and this is probably me being selfish, I hope it means they’re going to keep Bree, right? You didn’t trade him. Don’t lose him for nothing. You’re not going to get a comp pick for him. You’re going to spend too much money. The comp pick might be like a sixth rounder. Extend Breeze Hole. Keep him. Now, if he wants out, he wants out. But if you want it out and you still didn’t trade him, then that’s just bad GMing. So, we need to get the full story there. Robert super chat. We’re the New York Jets and we’re built to rebuild. JD, 50 plus year fan. This could be our first rebuild. Only concern is AG is a head coach. What do you mean their first rebuild? Were they not rebuilding in 2021 and 2022? They tore it down in 2020. They finished two and 14. Had the second pick in the draft. Had two first round picks that year and the top of the second round. They took Zack Wilson. That was the rebuild. They got it wrong. It set him back. 2022, they hit on their draft picks. They nailed the 2022 draft. Sauce, Garrett, Germaine, all in the first round trading up for Bree. They were six and3, seven and four. It fell apart because they missed on the quarterback. And then Rogers to try and fix the mistake was the move in 2023. He got hurt four plays in. That was a rebuild, JD. That was a full-on rebuild. They tore it down to the studs. They traded Jamal and Leonard Williams. They tore it down. Douglas picked his coach in Salah. It didn’t work. So just because they now have a bunch of picks again, this is not the first time they’re doing a rebuild. And he wrote, “Your only concern is AG.” That’s the problem. He’s also the GM. If he’s great at his job, then yeah, we have all the picks we need. Great. But I I don’t know, man. I hope I I hope they get it right. Otherwise, this losing will never end. Don’t think we should be mad about Quinnon. He’s only seen losing and kind of wipes us clean of the Magnum regime, even though it was a while ago. Q’s past few seasons haven’t been as strong. I have no issue uh dealing Quinnon. None. It’s the sauce thing that I just go I don’t know. And now not trading Bree as well and Quincy. Why didn’t we do full fire sale if we’re already gonna trade away our two best players on defense? That’s my thing. Dan, Dallas trading MP for two ones to trade for Q is funny. Jerry Jones. Bang. Jake, you’re sounding like me. I’m just going to call it how it is, man. Bang. You’re your takes are always the worst, though. Never never change. Bino Jacob, last time they made the playoffs, I was in my 20s, my 30s, nil, 40s nil. To think I’ll be in my 50s before they make it back. I mean, I was a sophomore in high school the last time the Jets made the playoffs. I just filled in for Bart Scott on the radio today. He was on that team. Like, you got to make you can’t you can’t make it up. Rob V, they’re trying to do what the Lions did after trading Stafford. Yeah, but the Lions and the Jets situation is completely different. It’s completely different. The Lions rebuilt it and they had Goff who they got in the Stafford deal. The Jets are drafting a quarterback. Steven Quinnon asked for a trade. I’m not a fan of the head coach, but it’s good to clear out players that didn’t want to be here. Breeze, too. But they didn’t trade Breeze, right? That’s my issue now. They didn’t trade Breeze. He’s still here. ISU, this kid that went viral for saying, “I hate the team was wearing a Quinnon jersey.” How do you think he’s feeling now? Sure. He’s thinking, “I may never see this team win.” I don’t know. He might be right. By the way, Aaron writes in, “How’s Garrett feeling? You don’t think he wants out? I look, he’s signed and they’re not trading him. So, I think Garrett’s a professional and you want him here for the rookie quarterback. I hope I hope Garrett gets to experience what Mike Evans got to experience, right? His loyalty was rewarded. He finally got a real quarterback, real coach. They won. We can only hope. Gator says, “I get your frustration about the value of picks, but we can also use these for trading up for a quarterback or player trades considering our great cap space.” Sure. You trust this regime to make those decisions though, Gator Mike? I genuinely think the sauce trade was too good to pass up. Q most likely asked for a trade. He did. So it looks like a fire sale. I like the comp. Five first threes. Five first three. Whatever you’re talking about the comp. Get a quarterback and Jeremiah Smith. Load up on D. No. Load up on offense. I don’t care if the defense is not good next year. Do we have a quarterback? Help him. Mark in the raffle for five. Thank you, Mark. David Atkins in our raffle for five. Ablab in the raffle for 10. Appreciate the super chat, Ablab. I hope you’re doing well, my man. I know you’re a diehard fan of this this team. Five first, three seconds over the next two years. I’m not mad. I get it. Look, the return is excellent. Do you trust Aaron Muji and Aaron Glenn? And if you do, tell me why. That’s the concern. And I I just don’t like that now they get a built-in excuse to lose for two years. They could finish one and 16 this year. They’re coming back. They could go three or four wins total in 2026 and they’re getting a year three now. You realize that, right, everyone? Like everyone who likes the picks now, if you call in to my show next year when the Jets get off to a, you know, one and six start and you say, “Man, we got to get rid of Glenn because Fernando Mendoza is struggling. We got to hire a real offensive coach.” I’m gonna say to you, you’re not getting rid of Aaron Glenn. He has now convinced Woody Johnson that he needs to get his players in here. He’s got three first round picks in 2027. He needs to be able to use them. So, we cannot, if you’re a Jet fan, you cannot expect your team to now win until 2027 at the earliest, like that season. The obviously the rebuild could be completely expedited if they take the next Jaden Daniels or CJ Stout who instantly a great year one. But that’s my concern. It’s like we are now committed to this regime that has already made a tremendous amount of mistakes from the very beginning when they split Rogers capital over two years and told us that it was all coaching why this team was bad and that Fields by the way has never been coached and we’re going to be the ones to coach him. We’re going to let him play quarter. Like there’s just so many man that’s my big concern above everything else. Glenn’s handpicked quarterback was Fields. He said he didn’t think Fields was ever coached up. He said they’d be the ones to let him play quarterback. Maximize his potential. He’s never played worse. His game management has been horrible. He keeps repeating the same mistakes. The end of the first half against the Panthers, didn’t throw the Hail Mary for the second straight week after saying he made a mistake not doing it against Denver. He promises coaching would elevate players. Everyone on this team defensively looks worse. Will McDonald. It’s coaching, man. It’s coaching. Nowhere close to as good as he was a year ago. So, I I just I have doubts on this regime being able to identify the right quarterback and and and develop him. And now we’ve just guaranteed them the opportunity to do it and get an extra year on top of it. So, I I just I’m very very worried because I don’t believe in the people making the decisions. And I hope they they earn back my belief by being good at their jobs because that’s all we want as Jet fans. It seem to not suck. Cash Money. Mike says, “Everyone’s mad we traded two top defenders, but AZ can replace Sauce, and we’ll add a vet or rookie to replace Q.” Mike, respectfully, you you think you could just add a vet and replace Quinnon Williams. Not a rebuild. We’re keeping Gdub on the O line. We’ll be fine if we nail our quarterback. Great. Frankie, talk to me in 2027. I don’t see it ending well. Probably not. I hope I’m wrong, but probably not. Trigg says, “Ple, please seriously consider making the draft pick sound as a super chat sliff sub alert noise. Thank you for your time. Also, rip to the jersey I won.” Did you win a sauce jersey, Trig or a Quinnon? I forget which one. Gh. Get used to this, Jeff fans. [Music] Craig 20 and 40 since 22. Five first now for two players who are only getting older. Craig, they’re 24 and 27. Can you stop with that? They’re only getting older. The Indianapolis Colts just gave you two first round picks for Sauce Garter. You don’t think, huh, they might know something? What if they’re such losing players? Why would the Colts who have the best record in the conference be willing to trade what you just got back for? You know what I mean? Like, we don’t need to act like the these guys were bad players. We reached this day because unfortunately this team lost so much and now the only way to try and present a new plan that the owner signed off on was to blow it up and start over again. Wrong verb. F this franchise. Hope they move to London. I don’t, but I understand your sentiment. A bear on YouTube. Dude, you keep saying AR was Glenn’s decision. It was Aaron Glenn’s decision. It was. Let’s not have revisionist history here. He was fully on board. I’m sure Woody was too, but let’s not act like Aaron Glenn was forced to get rid of Aaron Rogers. That’s not how that’s not what happened here. And once again, you traded away Quinn and you traded away Sauce. Why didn’t you trade Quincy today and get a sixrounder for him? Why didn’t you trade away Bree if you have no plans to keep him? Are you going to extend him now? Why don’t we get a bag of used footballs for Alan Lazard? I mean, I I Who doesn’t want some extra footballs around the facility? Come on. I don’t know. All right, more of your calls. Rob the Jet fan is next. Hello, Rob. Jake, just a complete [ __ ] [ __ ] show. This [ __ ] team. All right. Thank you, Robin. All right. Come on, man. More of your calls right now. Let’s go to Jason in Jerusalem. He won’t scream the fbomb a lot. Hello, Jason. I don’t think Rob’s happy with uh Muji’s decisions tonight. You know, I’m starting to I’m starting to think you might be on to something with that take. Yeah. Um you didn’t say this, but it’s also being reported that next year in 27 it’s the better of the Dallas or Green Bay picks that the it’s basically an option the Jets have. Yes. DT brought that up earlier and so we did note that. Correct. Okay. Um I’m going to miss the guys, but I understand why they did it. It’s a nice return and I I like it that they’re not just trading people just to get rid of them. Have people have value and if you don’t reach it, you don’t trade them. Breeze, I agree with you. They need to resign him. Yeah, but that was only supposed to be true for the guys that were on expiring deals. Like you don’t just give them away for nothing. But once you’ve already determined that guys that are supposed to be a part of your future, you have no value for them anymore. You want to get rid of them like a Quinn and a Sauce. Then I think you trade everyone, especially guys on an expiring deal. You go all in on the rebuild, not not be half pregnant. Unless they just feel that they they actually still want to get sell tickets this year and get a few wins. They’re not tanking. The tickets have already been sold. The tickets have already been sold. Rebuilding and tanking is different. I mean, you still want to create, you know, players still want to win. You look at that locker room after Cincinnati, they want to win. Of course, they want to win, but I mean, they don’t. The Jets, the Jets goal is no longer winning this year. So, if you know you’re not going to keep Quincy, which you’re not. You already paid Sherwood. You just traded away his brother. Why wouldn’t you trade Quincy Williams, for example, right? Because you tell the other teams that this is my price, and if you don’t reach it, I’m just going to keep the player. I mean, Muji’s a new GM. He needs to show the league who he is. I mean, they said, I remember with with Gar Snow when he joined the league, you know, to compare to hockey that he was just insulted with play people were offering him. You know, if you have a value per player, you show that this is what it is and you rather reach it or I’m willing to swallow it. Yeah, but that’s not smart team building because your team building approach was that’s based on the premise that they weren’t having a fire sale. You don’t just give players away. They’ve changed the entire direction of the organization today. though if you’re already going to trade sauce and you’re going to trade Quinnon, don’t no more half measures, right? Like go all in and trade away guys on expiring deals. Also give Quincy a uh sorry Quincy a time. Hey, do you want to be here? Can you earn your contract next year? I don’t think I breeze I don’t see him taking the contract. I see them offering him but him not taking it now. That’s what really stings now because I agree with what uh forgot the guy in Rhode Island, you know, who you brought in what he said that you keep the offensive line, you keep the offensive weapons so that whoever you pull in as quarterback can immediately succeed. You don’t have somebody like Darnold sitting behind a band-aid offensive lineman throwing to Vincent Smith as his wide receiver. You know, you put the the new quarterback in a position to succeed. That’s why you don’t touch the offense. That’s why I love it that they actually got AD Mitchell and they got in Mete in the trade as well. I look I I I like the fact that they got AD Mitchell in the deal because you know there’s some talent there. Mchi same thing. I just think Jason the value they got for Quinn and Sauce is not the problem. It’s the ch it’s not going all in on what this now is that I think is just confusing. Trade Quincy. He’s not going to be here next year. Doesn’t sound like Bree is either. He doesn’t want to be here. So, you got to get something for these guys. Even if it’s a day three pick, sixth round pick, you’re not trying to win anymore. You’re not. They could say they’re trying to win. They’re not. They’re not trying to win anymore. Glen Glenn could lose every game by 30 plus points. He’s coming back next year. That’s my thing. Dre says, “This is some BS. I think it’s time to pick a secondary team to root for. Yeah, I I have your secondary team to root for. Who’s ever playing the Colts? And who’s ever playing the Cowboys? There’s your secondary team. And by the way, the Jets actually get the better of the Dallas first round picks next year. So, we’re against the Packers, too. Hold the line. The draft jingles are rally cry. Yeah, baby. Oh, the pain. Charlie the dog groomer. Charlie, hope you’re well. hit the draft sounder. Right now, the Jets are currently third, but they’ve also played one less game than the teams in front of them. Wrong verb. Charles was right. Switching to the Colts. Yeah, they char first month as a Colts fan. Pretty good. Now he gets reunited with his buddy Sauce. Ablab in the house. Thanks again, Ablab, for the super chat. The free agents they brought in so far have been solid. Not really. I mean, the inseason trades have been good. I’ll give Muji credit for that, but some of their free agent signings were so bad. That’s why they had the trade for Briggs and Brownley in the first place. And a lot of their free agent signings have labor resigns. Sherwood’s been a bad resign, right? Like you chose to retain Tony Adams. You kept Michael Clemens. You paid Isaiah Oliver to come back for some reason. You paid Andre Cisco. That was a terrible signing. That’s a one-year deal, so it’s not going to kill you, but like, you know, the draft has looked pretty good. You want to give Muji and Glenn credit for that? They deserve it. Membu’s been a stud. Mason Taylor looks good. And now we’re going to learn real quick about Ay Thomas. Ay Thomas is a guy that I thought played really well in his first start in Forsauce, who was out with the concussion. But man, we got to see as far as your last point keeping Brace 100%. But are they going to keep him? Doesn’t sound like it. And I don’t think they’re necessarily going to get a comp pick. I I man. Wow. I just It’s hard to believe we got here. Blue, yellow, blood. I’m amazed at people that are surprised the team’s bad. Also, one of the Jets developed a quarterback. Sorry, I don’t trust their drafting. JD had one. Well, Douglas didn’t draft Darnold. McCagnon drafted Darnold. Problem was Joe Douglas evaluated Sam Darnold and chose to move on to take his guy in Zach Wilson. That obviously was the wrong move. But to be fair, like it was such a bad situation for Sam. He had like nine touchdowns in his last year. Like I understood why Douglas was like, I don’t know, man. Like if I restart start the clock on my quarterback, it does buy me some time. Which it did, right? If he kept Sam and it didn’t work out, he could have been fired a lot sooner. He had plenty of time. Frankie says, “A bad owner gives a first time head coach all this power.” I mean, the Niners did it with Kyle Shanahan and it worked for them, but is Aaron Glenn Kyle Shanahan? See, coaches having this type of power is pretty common. It’s the fact that Glenn’s a first time head coach having this much say in personnel. That’s what’s unusual. John says, “Sauce will pull a Rivas and hold out soon.” I will bet you a million bucks he will not considering his extension does not kick in until after the 2026 season. So, not happening. Jean says, “Let’s fight back, boycott concessions and TV games.” I mean, look, the the the revenue that the the Jets and the NFL teams make from season tickets is very minuscule compared to the TV contracts, but if you don’t renew your tickets, you know, that’s one way for ownership to take notice that you’re unhappy with what you’re doing. Like, why anyone would now renew for next year, I don’t understand. You’ll be able to save money if you just buy tickets on a per game basis. Big fella, I’m feeling about Muji, how bones he felt about Joe Douglas. Really? All right. Well, let’s get to your calls right now, ladies and gentlemen. We have 1,600 people watching live right now, so I’ll tell you what. We don’t have time for all 13 of his points, but let’s hear at least a few of them. Get ready for Neil. He will make 13 points about the New York Jets and maybe a hump of Patriots jersey. Get ready for new. He’s probably smoking a beard fat cigar and furnace house to the ground. [Music] That’s me. [Music] Hey Jake, is Peter on the hold? Peter Castro is not on hold. Bonesy, I want Bonesy on with me. Let’s put a couple people on here so we could take some callers. And who else is on? Who else is positive? I’m sick of hearing your [ __ ] I want some positive people on here. Who else? Who’s positive, Jake, that’s on the on hold? Let’s get somebody else on here. Rash not freaking fat waste of time off the phone. Some of you know the Jets. Let’s get an OG on the phone. Who else is here? PBM. There he is. PBM. By the end of this call, I’m going to make you so goddamn happy. You’re going to jump for joy and take the bag off. Let me tell you something. Bye. This Muggy Moogie Moogie. I am Muji. Darren Muji. I’m doing it because of that’s what his name calls a muggy mug. Um uh what’s his name? Anyhow, this guy is making moves here that makes Joe Douglas, your three-legged [ __ ] look like a This guy is amazing. Neil, how is he amazing? Like because he got a [ __ ] hall for two shitty players. That’s why. How are they shitty players, Neil? Oh, Jesus. Jake. Jake, let me give you Let me give you something here. Hang on a second. Quinnon Williams played 49 games. All right. And he had 40 sacks in 94 starts. 40 sacks. He has one sack this year. One. 40 sacks. He’s not a He’s not I saw two. It’s not a position where you judge them based on total sacks, though. That’s not That’s not what a defensive tackle does. I watched the game twice. This game we just had. Okay. Quinnon was getting pushed around by a rookie guard with no double team. He gave up, Jake. He’s not trying. If you look at the tape, and I’m sure Aaron Dw’s looking at the tape, Quinnon gave up. That’s why he wanted out after Aaron Rogers. He’s not playing 100%. He doesn’t want to be here. So, what the heck do you want him for? The fact that the other teams know he doesn’t want to be here makes Mooi Muji even better for what he was able to get for him. You don’t think these other teams knew that to Quinnon would want to be here? He said, “This is where you I need to move him and they took the bait.” I’m telling you, we got a hall for him. And sauce, even better. Let me tell you something about Sauce. Okay, I’ll tell you a little. Have you thought Have you thought about the fact that the fact that they were able to get this for these players? Tells you that teams around the leagues go, “Oh, they’re actually really good. They’ve just been in terrible situations to win, Jake. They have a shot to win now and they think these guys could put them over the top just like they thought they should. But that they should be on the Jets helping the Jets win. That’s the whole point. You’re excited about these picks. You’re hoping you could find players as good as the guys you just traded. Jake, we just cleared Wait, just we have $32 million in leftover salary from Quinton and Sauce this year alone. 32 million. We just took 32 million and threw it in the bank. To spend on what? To spend on who? He just said, “What about giving Bruce Hall a contract and getting him happy to be here again?” How How do you know they’re going to do that? It doesn’t sound like they’re going to do it. It doesn’t sound like they’re going to pay sound like they’re going to do that, Jake. They have the money to do it now. They had the money before. They had $75 million in cap space before they made any moves today. Jake, you can’t want a guy that doesn’t want to be here. I don’t have an issue with them trading Quinn. It’s trading both of them and then not actually then trading Breeze and Quincy and actually being all in on the rebuild, not being half pregnant and losing these guys now for nothing. Okay, let me tell you something. You shouldn’t have had to do this in the first place. Should they be one and seven right now? You feel good about this head coach? I know you’re in love with Sauce, but let me tell you something. I’m not in love with Sauce. He’s a really good football player. They just got you two ones because he’s really good at football. Okay. He is really good at football. Okay, great. Okay. And he’s got great stats. Rob always tells me about his stats. Okay. The bottom line, I have eyes. And my eyes tell me, they tell Peter Castro, they tell Joe Bingo, they tell a lot of guys, Jake, that he’s overrated. So don’t, your opinion isn’t the old overwhelming opinion of everybody in the world. I never said it was. But guess what, Neil? You called into this show where I offer my opinion. So you could be happy with it, but I I have nothing to point to that gives me any confidence that this head coach, who’s also the GM, is the right guy to oversee this rebuild. Now, wait a minute. What has Aaron Glenn done that he gets to trade away our good players and build it back up? All I’m saying to you is this Mugi Mucci, whatever you want. Works for Glenn who Woody referred to as been doing Let me tell you something, Jake. He’s been doing great so far. The draft is not bad. Okay. And Stevens is looking good. We got We got, you know, Taylor looks really, really good. AZ is good enough to take over Saucy. He’s played one game. Do you think he’s going to be good enough to replace a two-time first team all pro? Jake, one thing we got to realize. Let’s just trust. I hope you’re right. I really do. I just I I I I don’t understand why you’re this. Who knows more about cornerbacks? You, me, anybody in this chat or Aaron Glink, we at least say he might know something about the position, right? And that was my argument when when he paid Sauce Gardner in the first place. Okay, maybe he had to pay Sauce Gardner. Maybe he paid to pay him. Wait, maybe he paid sar. Let’s just say this to you, Jake. Let’s Let’s put two things as a fact. When you pay a guy, Jake, a lot of times the Jets have paid guys bags of money and they turned into [ __ ] players. Could you agree with that? 100%. And a lot of times the Jets have had they’ve invested in is laying off. We don’t know what he does in practice. I will tell you a fact, and this is a fact. I have a friend of mine who owns is an operator and owns planes in Yipsilonic in Detroit. He flew Sauce Gardner on a jet not this week, last week when he was in concussion protocol with his girlfriend down to Grant Cayman. I just read something here. If you have a concussion Oh god, Neil, I’m not doing it. Right. It was the bye-week. He obviously got clearance from the Jets medical staff if he’s allowed to travel and trading Sauce Gardner has nothing to do with what he does during the by-week when he could have cleared the protocol by then for all you know. How do you know he was even still concussed when he got on the plane? You could be you could be excited about the trade and you think Sauce is overrated. That’s fine. All I know is the reason why you got this return is because you had really good players and this is not like when they traded Jamal for example, that was clearly a rebuild and we all knew it needed to be. We saw what was happening, right? you were going to fire Dace and get a coach that was going to come in and work with the quarterback you were going to draft. We saw the tear down coming. This was not sold to be a tearown going into the year. Maybe the reason why Quinnon Williams, to quote you, was dogging it is because the head coach lied to his face when Quinnon said, “I guess this is another rebuild.” And Aaron Glenn said no. Because it wasn’t supposed to be. They were trying to win games. They thought they could come in and take a team that had the lead in the fourth quarter seven times last year and had the worst kicking situation in the league. Well, they fixed that. Give Glenn Emuji credit. Nick Folks, awesome. Gee, who could have told you that one? And they thought they were going to win games and now like the pivot is now to blow the whole thing up because for job security, they now guarantee themselves at least two more years by doing this. It’s coward stuff. Hopefully they are good at making the right picks, but it comes down to the quarterback, man. They got to get that pick right. It’s just it’s it’s so frustrating. I’ll get back to your super chats in a second. Let’s keep rolling with your calls. Adam is next. Hello, Adam. Hey. So, you know, the season died a few weeks ago and now you’re acting like it’s the funeral. I mean, the season means nothing the rest of the way. No one’s getting fired if they if they lose out. Nothing. Like, it’s all about the draft. I mean, it is, but I would say it really depends on which coaches are available. They’re not firing Aaron Glenn. Aaron Glenn could lose every game the rest of the way. He is going to be here all of next year and he’ll probably get a year three now, too. I know you feel I mean you feel so strongly about it, but anything’s possible. They just straight away they’re two allp pro defensive players. He’s not going anywhere. They could lose every game and they built in excuses. Now I have picks to get my own players. I mean, they could also say that they already knew the season was toast and they know they no longer need to evaluate Glenn. They know what he is. And so they thought, okay, well, build a cache. You think Woody Johnson is smart enough to say, “Trade these guys. I’m not really worried about evaluating you or I know you’re I know you’re terrible. I’m just going to fire you at the end of the year anyway.” No. I mean, with that shot, I mean, broken clock can be right, you know, twice as dead. There’s no chance. Woody blame the season being bad on Fields two weeks ago. Oh, cuz he’s a consistent, you know, is he consistent at one thing? You know what it is? My take can’t be that they’re going to they’re going to fire this regime after all this. There’s no My take is you think he’s invincible and he’s not. He is invincible. He is. He’s not getting fired now. You know, if Aaron Glenn was worried about his job, he’s not trading away Sauce or Quinton Williams today. So, that being said, I’ll talk I think we can disagree on that one and it’s fine. I think when we look at the rest of the season, it is an evaluation of how the offense will improve the these trades have quietly improved the offense. because the receiving room has gotten improvements and I don’t know if they’re going to be game changers, but we’ll have to see if this offense can can consistently score points. I mean, that is who’s on trial the most. Maybe you don’t you don’t think AG’s on trial, but certainly Fields is on trial right now. Angstrand’s also on trial right now. So, we’ll have to see. Fields is not the starter. His evaluation’s complete. They already benched him. He’s not going to be the starter next year as far as like him being like the long-term answer. Maybe he’s the bridge and there’s a rookie that’s being ready to play behind him and at some point they’ll go to that guy, but like we’re not eval evaluating fields at this point. Like we know what he is. They’re going to draft a quarterback. Yeah. I I hope that they do and you know we got a lot of picks now and we we will certainly land one and we’ll see where that goes. I’m pretty optimistic about that because at least we now know we knew this like halfway a quarter through the season that this wasn’t it. So, like why would we want to like not start stocking up on picks and rebuilding, right, if we knew this was a collapse? And I know that it was marketed a certain way, but they’ve pivoted. And why why why do why does your analysis there need to include trading away both S and Quinn necessarily? And then if then if you wanted to be on board with that, why didn’t they go all away with all the way with it and trade Quincy who’s not going to be here next year? Well, you and I you and I both I don’t think you and I knew that Quinnon was like a severe malcontent as what was reported. I mean that’s pretty bad if he had three different occasions asking for a trade that that was not public to anyone and good on Quinnon for keeping it quiet but like he was mal content. So he got he was unhappy because they lied to him. That’s why he was unhappy. They told him it wasn’t going to be a rebuild and they were going to try and win. And here are the New York Jets at one and seven. Okay. I mean I get it. He’s unhappy and he wanted out and we got a great deal from him in sauce. I mean, I who dear I don’t think anyone really thought Sauce was on the block after they just extended him. I think the Colts and some other buyers got really desperate and they gave gave an offer that imagine imagine if it got out that like we rejected two first rounders for Sauce. That would have been a pretty interesting, you know, conversation in the media about the what you turned down for Sauce um from that team. So, you know, I think the Hall was fine. I mean, if you Yes, the ESPN’s already trade graded them. Jets are coming out winners on both of those and the other two are looking terrible with those trades. So, everybody loves picks until you actually have to make the picks and get the players correct with the decisions. So, we will see. How can we grade a trade right now until we know what those picks end up being? The reason why the Jamal Adams trade is looked back on fondly is because they used it to get AVT and Garrett Wilson. Like, we time will tell. I just don’t like the power and the faith that this regime now has to run it how they see fit for two more years when they’ve shown you absolutely nothing and they’ve been wrong and have now tried now are trying to move the goalpost and successfully did it with the owner to get more time now. I don’t like it. I don’t think they’ve earned that opportunity. This was not supposed to be a full tear down blowing up at the trade deadline year. It now has become that and this is now their new pivot to buy them more time. But I like they they they now get to pick a quarterback. Hopefully they get the right one. And even if they do, is Aaron Glenn the right coach for that quarterback? Because Adam Gase had the right quarterback. He wasn’t the right coach for Sam Darnold. I mean, let me let me put this way for the for the offensive-minded coaches that could be on the market in the offseason, right? Mike McCarthy, everybody knows that. Has he was he the one that was attributed with developing Dak Prescott? I mean, Dak was pretty good and then he had his best three seasons the years that McCarthy was his head coach, right? Okay. But he was already developed at that point. It’s like like us getting Darnold back, right? He already got his, you know, education in the NFL at that point. So, that’s part one. The other two, Stfansky, he hasn’t demonstrated him growing a quarterback. Yeah. Haven’t seen it. I mean, he was a two-time coach of the year in Cleveland was a successful OC in Minnesota. Like, he’s an offensive guy. Aaron Glenn is not an offensive guy. So, you Tanner Angstrin is really good. Time will die. Now, here’s another name that think about, right? If Zack Taylor was on the market, what would you think about that? I would not want Zack Taylor. Yeah. So, I mean, it’s a tricky one because why why Adam, why are we doing this? Glenn’s not going anywhere. Like, we’re wasting time. Thank you for all the time. If Aaron Glenn gets fired, you can call back in and you can rub it in my face because if he got fired after they went one and 16, it would be warranted. He’s not getting fired, though. Like, once again, you could like the trades today or don’t like it. The biggest takeaway you need to know from today is that Aaron Glenn is here and he’s not going anywhere. They could lose by 30 every game and he will not be fired. I’m sorry. He won’t be. It’s not happening. Haron is next. What’s up, Harlon? Hit the mic button, Harlland, and we’ll unmute your mic. Great stuff. Nick is next. Hello, Nick. What’s up, Jake? You know, I I agree with you. I think I think the biggest issue is the timing. I think everyone needs to think because why give Sauce that extension in the offseason for however many guaranteed millions of dollars that potentially is now dead money to not just like you could have tagged and traded him then and had the rebuild and we would have had a much different mental I mean a slightly different probably mental approach to this season. I think that’s what I think everyone gets hung up on is that is just the timing of it because you offer him an extension and then you do this and I get the Quinnon deal because he’s got money on on his contract. He’s got a contract beyond this year and that makes you more valuable to other teams. So to me, I understand the rebuild. It’s just the timing of it that I think everyone is is getting hung up on. It’s just like why, you know, now? But again, having them under contract that that is leverage, too. I don’t know how much in the off season, you know, saw us with on the rookie deal and having to extend him, how much that affected it. So maybe the leverage kind of slightly to Neil’s point, you know, maybe the leverage was a little bit more there now than it was in the offseason. But again, I think the timing is what everyone gets a little weary on. It’s just it’s hard to it’s it’s hard to believe, but I mean, they they they made the decision to tear it down, but they didn’t even fully tear it down properly. Like why? Quincy’s gone and they’re not I hope they pay breeze. I do. Uh I am not How could you feel good about them actually extending Breeze based on anything that has been put out there today? I agree with you on Quincy. Uh the only thing I would think about Quincy is just that like and again it’s just like kind of like six in one hand, half dozen the other. Like what are we looking at defensively? But like maybe they don’t have anyone that can step in theoretically. I mean maybe you have to bring up a linebacker from the practice squad. I know they had that rookie played well in that one one game where a couple games where Quincy was out. So maybe that’s what we all kind of have saw in that short span, but yeah, that that’s the only thing that kind of confuses me about that aspect is is yeah, like Quincy should have probably like it seemed like it would have been a package deal with Quincy and Quinnon just kind of going and I just think that they don’t have anyone potentially that could step in and keep it as I and I laugh and say this tongue and cheek like respectable. Yeah. But but you know what? Trying to win and looking respectable doesn’t matter. What do you care? You just traded away Sauce Gardner and Quinton Williams today. It should be about getting as many picks as possible. Once you make once you make this decision, go all in with it. You should have traded Quincy Williams today. You should have traded Bree Hall today. Unless you’re going to extend Brie Hall, which I hope they do, but the Jets usually have done the last year they’ve done the opposite of basically everything I’ve wanted, so I’m not counting on it. It’s amazing. I I really I did not expect a fire sale today because I thought Glenn was going to try and value winning games and building winning habits, but he’s in year zero. He’s convinced ownership of that, so why bother? Ryan says, “So now we have to trust AG to pick in the draft.” Yeah, for better or worse, that’s something they take the right quarterback. Bobblelnick, only good thing is if and when it blows up next year, a new GM and head coach has to there. No, I don’t I I don’t I don’t think so. I think I think the three first round picks in 2027, I think that’s going to be used now as year three is going to be the year it all comes together for us. Like if the Jets win four games next year, right? If they go four and 13 in 2026, I think it’s going to be used as, well, we already have our quarterback. Now we got two more first round picks in addition to our own. We’re going to surround them with whatever we need to finally make the playoffs. And then if it doesn’t work, they’ll be fired. If it does work, they’ll be extended. That’s how this is setting up to be. They’re going to get all next year now, too. Kevin wrote in, “Uncle Neil not cooking.” Blue and yellow, what does Haimey do to keep his job for this long? Nobody knows. Knob says, “Neil’s 100% on point today. I got to acknowledge greatness when I see it.” Taylor writes in, “Qu asked for a trade three times. We got two picks in a player.” I have no issue with trading Q. It’s the fact that it got to this point because you you sold him on false promises that this wasn’t a rebuild and you now had to turn it into a rebuild because you were really bad at your jobs. So now we’re going to entrust you to pick the next quarterback and rebuild the roster. I don’t the value they got is not the issue. It’s it’s it’s why does Aaron Glenn have this much power for a guy who’s never even been a head coach before. Omega Man says these picks only make sense if they draft offense. Any defensive player selected, it’s an abomination. QB, receiver, O line, running back, tight end. I mean, the premium picks, right, should go towards the offense. You’re going to take a quarterback with your own pick this year. That second first round pick should go towards a wide receiver. Or if you’re not bringing back AVT Simpson, the best interior offensive lineman, right? Maybe it’s a center and Tipman stays at guard. Maybe it’s a guard and Tipman’s back at center. Whatever. The extra first round pick they have should go to a player that is going to help your young quarterback. The second round pick they got from Dallas should be focused on offense 100%. Ablab, Jacob, they didn’t want Brace, he’d be gone. I I guess I I hope you’re right. I hope they extend him. He will help a young quarterback regardless who it is next year. Third man, if they were going to get rid of the guys they just signed, why wouldn’t they offload Sherwood to a team? because I don’t think anyone wanted Sherwood. He hasn’t played well. People don’t want to pick pick up that contract. How they couldn’t get the Niners have four fourth round picks. How they couldn’t get one of those picks for Quincy Williams is wild to me. Salad didn’t want Quincy back. Green Empire says the roster was not broken when Glenn came in. Now he comes in a year of busted first round picks to elite players you cannot replace. That’s my big thing. Chad says Jake, this is a Hershel Walker Hall. you win through the draft. Bottom line, yeah, the Jets hit on most of their picks in the draft the last couple of years with their premium picks. Their big miss was quarterback. Chad, this is not a Hersel Hershel Walker Hall at all. It’s not even close. What it all comes down to is who is the pick at quarterback and did they get it right? And hopefully if they did get it right, we will know they got it right because we’re winning games. And it’s not Sam Darnold being failed and having to go to a couple different teams before he’s in the right situation to prove that he was a legit franchise quarterback. That’s it. And it’s not even about where you pick in the draft. It’s picking the right player. Most of the time the quarterback that goes first in the draft is not the best quarterback from the draft class. Jet Jaro Jake, as much as I agree with you on Glenn, let’s be real, he ain’t going anywhere. I know. I believe me. I I I don’t know how many times I have to say this. Aaron Glenn is not getting fired. Not happening. You’re saying these trades were absolutely no-brainers. I don’t know about that. Let’s see what they turn the picks into. Rice says, “The sky isn’t falling. We gave up two good players for good value. Four picks in the top 50 in 26 most likely three in the top 32 in 2027 plus a flyer on a wide receiver at a young DT opened up tons of cap space. Great. We’re back to cap space. They already had cap space. They had $75 million this off season. Everyone loves cap space and then you see what it turns into. Le’Veon Bell, Tmaine Johnson, CJama, we all love cap space. You know what I like? I like good football players. Do you remember the five-game losing streak? The sevename losing streak, the Mike White t-shirts burned the whole thing down. Bad vibes, good riddens. Yes, that the Jets have sucked because of the Mike White t-shirts. The bad vibes. Sure. John, if the Jets beat the Browns, will you change your tune? No. The game means nothing. Who cares about the Browns game? Hamburger up next and we’ll get back to more of your calls. We got the champ on the line. We’ll get back to PBM who was on with Neil too. What’s up, Mr. Burger? What’s up, man? Wow, what a day. I called three players out yesterday and only two of them went. I called out Sauce. Not that I’m saying that that I thought they were getting traded, but I mentioned Slo and Quinnon and they went and the one that I thought would go the most was probably Bree. I mean, what a [ __ ] show. What a what a circus, bro. I What a circus. We are We are committed to Glenn and that that is full on in the tea leaves today. He’s not going anywhere. We could be the worst team. We could not win. We can get blown out every game of the rest of the way and it doesn’t matter. He’s going to be here. I’m not very happy about it. I don’t like what I’ve seen for the first half of the year. Obviously, I’ve been at lengths saying it, but man, you guys are all nuts, too, to sign Bree again. He doesn’t want to be here. That’s clearly clearly he’s put that out there. He has no interest in being a jet anymore. So for me, I’m out on Bree, too. They should have traded him that with all the stuff that came out on Bree that he wants he wants out of here. The little memes he puts out. Let him go, man. We should have gotten something for him. They should have traded him. They should have traded him if they have no intention of offering him an extension right now because you’re not going to use the tag on him. He’s owed 16 million on the tag. Correct. Way too much. So, it’s either Yeah, 100%. They should have gotten rid of them today. I I don’t know, man. I We’re screwed. I have a pile of Jets jerseys upstairs now that I’m going to go and just throw out. I mean, it’s stupid to burn them, but just I’m going to go donate them to some people that have no idea what the Jets who the Jets even are. It’s just it it man, we are just the butt of every joke. You I like Yeah. Do I like that we got the round the first rounders? Do I think we got good value for it? Yeah. But who’s picking our freaking players? Who’s coaching our new quarterback? Aaron Glenn in company. Like it’s dude, I have seen nothing this year. Nothing that shows us that that this is a a a coach that’s going to last. We are in another at m at minimum two and a half to three years with this guy again. He’s getting he’s getting all of next year and he’s probably going to get 2027 as the make or break. Like we have all the picks we now use and this is where it all comes together. Yeah, I would agree with that. 100%. I would agree with that. And to those that are happy about this and are all riding high on Glenman, remember that I said this. He’s going to screw this organization for another for another 5 years after 2027. We are screwed. You can call me negative. You can call me whatever you want, but it’s right there. You see it. You see it on the field. You see it now. The indecision of the coaching, the indecision of upper management. Our owner sucks. We suck. Period. End the story. So enjoy this next three years because it’s going to be misery for five guaranteed. I look I I I hope that that he improves, man. Because right now everything you’re saying is fair because he’s looked terrible as a head coach so far and he’s also the GM, right? If it was like if if like the GM was good and the head coach sucked, well, it’s easy to make a change. The guy has full autonomy over the roster and he’s the head coach. So, for better or worse, Aaron Glenn’s got all the power. It’s It’s tough. I mean, they I don’t know what else to say. It’s just Let’s hope it gets better. NY Jets Florida is up next. Hello, Ted. Good talk. Uh, Ted, I see you now. Your camera wasn’t on. There we go. Ted, you there? Yeah. Sorry, I was flipping my phone. So, I actually actually thought we we would had a fire sale last year, but let me say what Mooi turned Sauce into cuz Sauce was basically if we had to flip him last year, he was having such a bad year, we probably got a second round or third round for him. for Muji to get two first. Maybe it was just an offer that maybe he didn’t want to trade him, but it was just too good to I mean not turn down, you know. Um, but I did want to say one thing, Jake. You said coward stuff about Did you say coward stuff about Glenn and Muji? Are you accusing them of sabotaging the team to keep their jobs by trading? Okay, that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that they’re they they they pivoted to this because it buys them more time now after they royally screwed up either their evaluation of these players or Glenn’s not very good at coaching these same players up. His staff is not good and that’s why they have been awful. Jake, did you ever come to Should they be one and seven, Ted? Should they be one and seven right now? Let me ask you a question, Jake. Well, with with the quarterback play, maybe. But did you ever think right who brought in the quarterback? Jake, my mantra. Okay, Jake. Who brought in the quarterback? I’m asking you. Who brought in the quarterback? It’s an obvious answer, but let me move to a better point. I I don’t I don’t recall who brought in the quarterback. Glenn and Glenn and Muji, I guess. Right. Right. Right. So, okay. Continue. It didn’t work. Jake. Jake, are you going to go into are you going to go into a team and and basically evaluate them and then say all everyone sucks? My mantra before the season was let’s see what happens. I was and you said I can’t do a show on that Ted. So now you I mean we have a lack of talent Jake. We have a lack of talent. It goes to show that why why is some of the talent here. They chose to keep these players Ted. They Aaron Glenn wasn’t forced to keep Michael Clemens. He voluntarily brought him back. Not every deal works out. Jake Jake I understand but most of them haven’t. and they have all this power and then just traded away our two best defensive players to kick off another rebuild. And I don’t think they’ve given me any indication to feel confident that they’re the right people to oversee a full-on rebuild. Most notably picking a quarterback first in the draft or second in the draft, wherever it ends up being. Bo Nicks turned out all right, didn’t he? What do you Darren Moo? I’m not muted. Darren Muji did not draft Bo Knicks. That was all Shawn Payeyton. Come on. Well, I’m just saying he might have been there for in the back in the background. Jake, great. He was in the background, man. Adam Gase was also getting Pton Manning his coffee, too. Jake, you talk like we’ve I mean, this team has been [ __ ] for the last 15 years. You’re going to have to bottom this thing out. You’re going to have to bottom. They bottom out. They bottomed out in 2020. We just went through this five years ago. Busted on a quarterback. What are you gonna do? Right. Right. So, why do they now get to pick a quarterback when they’ve shown incompetency so far? I thought I thought I thought Joe Douglas picked picked Zack Wilson. He did and he eventually got fired 100%. So, I’m saying why does Aaron Grant and Darren Rui get to now pick a quarterback and do this full rebuild when they completely miseal the team they inherited and gave Justin Fields 30 million and said, “We’re going to let him play quarterback. He’s never been coached properly and he’s never played worse.” That gives you I don’t think they’re going to be able to develop a quarterback. I don’t think I don’t think it’s a misaluation, Jake. I think you don’t know until you get in the building. And I did say you got to see what happens. You You don’t know what you have. I mean, he came from a winning organization. He sees what he has. He’s willing to He says, “Okay, um time to time to blow this thing up and and start over.” I mean, he got rid of players from a losing culture. You know, maybe Quincy wasn’t tradable. Maybe nobody wanted him. He paid S Gardner. You’re talking about a losing culture. He paid Jamie and Sherwood. He brought these guys back. Clemens, Tony Adams. They paid Francisco. Brilliant. I said to you, Sauce, it may have been too good of a deal to pass up. You know what I mean? Maybe he wasn’t really on the trade block. Yeah, but the reason why these guys are even on the trade block in the first place is because they’re one and seven. They should not be one and seven in the first place. That’s my I agree with you, but we are what we are. And God. I mean, it is what it is. We We can’t go back. So, the only thing I can do is I I You’re going to have to have faith because the only other alternative is to bring in who who’s going to do what with these picks. The alternative is that if you finish as the worst team in the NFL, you do exactly what the Patriots did. you one and done your coach and get a Mike. I don’t he’s not available because Woody Johnson, if he was going to make a real move, should have cleaned house after 2023 and Mike Frael would would have been the Jet coach last year. Instead, everyone got a mulligan and that brought us to where we’re at. Do you think Aaron Glenn’s done a good job, Ted? You’re telling me to be so hopeful and optimistic. You think Aaron Glenn’s done a good job since he’s been here? Yes or no? Maybe maybe with the talent he has, he he did. You don’t know that. You’re not a professional. You don’t know that. Jake, I know evaluator, Ted. I’m not an NFL scout, a GM, or a coach. I’m a Jets fan who’s watched every snap of every play for 15 something years, 20 years now, whatever it is. And guess what? I could form an opinion as can you. So, I’m asking you for your opinion. Do you think Aaron Glenn has done a good job in his first year? Yes or no? I don’t know what the talent he has. I’m going to go back to that. I don’t know, Jake. I don’t know what he has to work with. Obviously, these players I love how you’re like with the talent. He voluntarily chose to keep this talent. That that’s what people don’t seem to understand. It’s like, oh, he needs to get his guys in here. And it’s like you completely ignore the fact that he would tell people we have talent. They just need to be coached better. We led the league in penalties. That’s coaching. We had the lead in the fourth quarter seven times a year ago. We blew it. That’s coaching. We had the worst kicking situation in the league. We could fix that. You know what? That’s the one thing they improved. If they had if they had Nick Faulk on last year’s team, they went a lot more than five games. This was not a typical five win roster. So now, yes, they’re making the pivot to tear it down and they got great value on these deals, but I don’t care how many picks you get for the players if the guys who are making the picks aren’t good at their jobs. And I have major doubts with this regime. That’s my point. I hope they’re great, but I’m not going to sit here and blindly, you know, talk about the jobs they’re doing as if it’s been a good thing when Aaron Glenn’s been awful so far. Hopefully he improves. It was a great win over the Bengals. Was it an outlier? But now the problem is if they if they just suck against all these teams down the stretch, there’s going to be a lot of you just excusing it, being like, “Well, what’ you expect? They traded away Sauce. They traded away Quinnon.” And they shouldn’t get to use that excuse. But they’re going to be here. So, I’m rooting for them because I I I want the Jets to not suck because his fan base is great and deserves, you know, forget a Super Bowl. How about a nine and eight season for once? Unreal. More of your calls. Harlon, I’m going to come back to you. Hopefully, your mic is working this time. I’m good now. Hey. Um, so I’m not as negative. The I feel like the offers today, they were too good to pass up. You couldn’t say no to them. At the same time, like, yeah, this year’s been disappointing. Uh, there’s in some of those games there was definitely coaching decisions that could have been better. I think what gives me optimism about Glenn and about the regime is that they the that locker room after the win is really what’s sealing it for me. The way that they’re still fighting for him and with the whole thing with Sauce like how’s the fight going to be now knowing they just traded away their two best players on defense? You still gonna get that level of fight? I I think like uh people have been saying I think Quinnim was done and he wanted out and then with Sauce uh to be honest since his first two years he hasn’t played up to his level that we were used to seeing from him. I mean he’d be a second team all pro this year based on what he has done so far. Yeah. But e even so I he’s also been injured. He’s been out multiple times for single game here, single game there. So, to me, I feel like he’s not proving that he can stay healthy. The return uh like we said or like I said, is just too good to pass up for them. And with Glenn, I I’m not ready to like count him out in year one. Now, granted, you know, as we were piling up 0 and six, 0 and7, it’s looking worse. Yes, it’s only one game we won, but and I mean, we’re all miserable Jets fans here, but like I don’t think this is, you know, the end all. I I’d like to see where we start off next year and also how we finish the season this year before I write off Glenn. I mean, I didn’t want Glenn originally. I wanted to I was one of those people that wanted to bring back Rex Ryan because I was just sick of everything we’ve had since Rex Ryan and I love Rex Ryan and he wanted to be here. But obviously Glenn wanted to be here, too. I mean, look, he he is going to get all of this year and all of next year now for sure and probably the following year. So, I I I I hope he’s improves and he’s good. Once again, the returns they got for the players are very very good returns. It’s just how we got to this point is concerning because you could have as many picks as you want. I like how we got to this point should be concerning that it got to this point that you had to blow it up and you didn’t even blow it up properly. They didn’t trade Quincy today. They didn’t trade Bree. If they extend Bree, great. I don’t think they’re going to, though. I think they’re going to lose Breeze for nothing now. That really bothers me. I hope I’m wrong. I will come out and say great job by extending him. Glad I was wrong about that, but I I don’t know. Mike Dems, you’re in the raffle for five. Uh, we are going to give away a Jets jersey at the end of the show. It won’t be a current check cuz it won’t be on the team for that much longer. But Joe Nameoth, Joe Kleco, Curtis Martin, Wayne Crevette, Derel Rivas, and the great Nick Mangle. Speaking of Rex, let’s go to eat a damn snack. I am getting hungry. So, we’re at the three-hour mark. I did three hours of radio today reacting to this trade. Barton Carlin on ESPN New York and on the ESPN New York app. Do we have something cooking here? Oh my. Oh my lord. No. Holy crap. What? Holy crap. Yeah, been a day. Oh, hamburger. I had the Jets ow and 17 because of the coaching staff, not because of the talent. Just so we don’t get it twisted. Yeah, the coaching has been horrible, man. That’s the problem. And we just guaranteed the coach two more years. That’s why I’m so upset. It’s not the pick. They got good value if you were going to do this. It’s that Aaron Glenn has looked incompetent for most of the season and we just now gave him two more years. So if he doesn’t improve, we’re screwed. And like if they finished with the first pick of the draft, you could have got a legit offensive coach that wanted to coach that quarterback. Your job would be attractive. Robert Craft showed balls and fired Gerrod Mayo, hired a real coach and Mike Brael, but then hired Josh McDaniels to be his OC. Like you could turn this around if you get the right coach and quarterback. I don’t think we have the right coach. So, is he going to pick the right quarterback? Like, that’s my fear, man. I hope Glenn proves me wrong. It gets better. But I got to I got to base my analysis on the first eight games of the year, which has been an unmitigated disaster. Even their win against the Bengals. Have you seen the Cincy defense? Like, are the Jets probably going to go out there on Sunday against the Browns and score 10 points? Would it surprise anyone? Buck says, “Rebuilding better next year. Give time.” It might not be better next year, though. That’s the thing. They might win four or five games next year and they’ll blame it on having a rookie quarterback. See, this is now year zero. Next year is year one. To use Salah as an example, his year one was four and 13 with Zach Wilson. I like I like I I don’t think the team’s going to be very good now next year unless they get Lightning in the bottle with the quarterback. And then if that happens, I give Aaron Glenn and Angstrand assuming he’s the OC all the credit. Muji all the credit. If that happens, I have major doubts. You know what I mean? Like if they get Lightning in the bottom of quarterback like Jaden Daniels or CJ Strad is when they were rookies. All right, then the expedited timeline can be better. But like we’re not looking at a playoff season realistically till probably 2027. And they have now sold Woody on that because they’ll say we’ll use our three first round picks in 2027 for that year’s team and we’re going to be good. Watch. John says Jets finished the season seven and 10. Do you change your tune? No, man. If the Jets go out there after starting 0 and seven and finish seven and 10, I I’m still going to be ripping every obviously. Yeah. You think they’re finishing seven and 10, John? What drugs are you on? Holy [ __ ] Abraadoodle. How are they going seven and 10 now after they just traded away Quinnon and Sauce within an hour of each other? It ain’t happening. More of your calls. And only thing better than all shoes is Joey D cuz he totally rules. Jake my brother, I’m high as a kite. I love everybody. Damn, this show is crazy. [Music] Jake my brother, Mr. Bonesy. All right. First, let’s start off by saying with all the hate that we have for Aaron Glenn, myself included, how how badly I’ve been down on him, we shouldn’t be so down on the draft picks because in my eyes, Mebo is a great hit. Mason Taylor’s a great hit. And now Ay Thomas has shown the the coaching staff so much um you know good play and and confidence that they were willing to actually accept his trade for sauce. Now I love sauce. I I have a signed Sauce jersey. I have multi all my kids have my son was Sauce for Halloween. He literally wore his sauce jersey out for Halloween. So obviously that that hurts. He’s a homegrown player. But on the flip side, when when we traded Jamal Adams, right, Jamal Adams was coming off a year that he looked like a freak. Like he was everywhere. All of us were in awe of how um the our defensive coordinator Williams was using this guy. And we got two two first and a third for Jamal. Now, I’m not saying Sauce is going to crash out like Jamal, but let’s just go back on Sauce’s resume so far. The man has three inter career interceptions. he doesn’t turn the ball over. This year in particular when when S when S’s name on the back of the jersey when we were a top five defense was holding weight and he was able to hold a little more and he was in solid scheme that played to his strengths was but which was you don’t travel, you play uh cover to zone, you keep everything in front of you, you play good bump man and and and you just you know S was good at that. But this year and and last year, Sauce hasn’t been the same player. He gets called on on holding con often. And yeah, PPF has him holding wide receivers to two catches, but then we still put give up 30 points. So, in my opinion, when we traded Derell Rivas, we only got a first round pick and a and a fourth conditional for him. We just got two firsts and a and a a wide receiver, too. that’s, you know, he’s a second round pick who’s young that maybe could switch teams and and show us something. I don’t know if he’s a wide receiver, too. He might be by default on this team, but agree, but he’s a wide receiver. I mean, he’s a second round pick that, you know, he hasn’t been all he’s been hurt by injuries and they like Alec Pierce. So, have you thought about that some of the reason these But Bones, have you thought about maybe some of the reason why these players have not been as good this year that you’re referencing, right? You’re talking about Sauce and some of the other guys I’ve mentioned because the coaching’s been worse. You thought about that? I completely agree. I completely agree. But last year, uh, Sauce was in the same exact scheme. He was just when Salah got traded, he just like kind of checked out. I think the entire defense got immediately worse the second that they fired Salah. And we saw that all the guys that we were kind the only player who overachieved last year, I think, was Will McDonald and Sherwood came out of nowhere, right? And now Sherwood’s awful this year. So, it’s like, yeah, it’s it’s just I I look, the returns itself are are fine. They’re they got they got the right value. I’m not killing the I’m not upset with the trades because they didn’t get enough. I’m upset that we’re just here and it guarantees without this regime doing anything to warrant the the belief that they now just got from the owner today. Like like to me, if the Jets finished with the worst record in the league this year, it was justifiable to clean house and get a real offensive coach for the quarterback you’re going to take. Now they could be god awful and nothing’s going to change. they’re gonna get to oversee the picking of a quarterback and all the other moves around the quarterback and they haven’t done anything to me that warrants that if they’re this bad the rest of the way. But now there’s a built-in excuse for them to be this bad even though I think it’s a built-in excuse though. I do think that they aren’t throwing this season and trying to flush it and lose out. I personally don’t think that because but if they do lose it, they’re back. Glenn can lose every game the rest of the way and he’s back. Agreed. Agreed. The picks definitely help him stick around an extra year. I I completely agree. Probably two years. Let’s be honest. He’s not selling them on this is going to be year three is the year it all comes New York, man. We can’t We can’t be this [ __ ] next year. And why not? Why not? Why not? The plan’s going to be 2027. We got three first round picks. You can’t fire us now. We’re going to get our quarterback this off seasonason. He’s going to develop in year one. Then we’ll figure out development from a quarterback though, we’re going to be ecstatic. So, if he hits that, we could be four and 13 next year, but have the next Joe Burrow. We’re going to be uh not necessarily. Look at the Giants. They all want Dable Gone and they’re right for wanting. They’re in year four or they’re going to be in year five next year. All right. But if Glenn’s coming off a year where he wins one or two games, then next year they only win four. Like, are you really going to want You win one or two this year, I’m still going to be out. I’m still out on Glenn. I still don’t trust his his his coaching. That still hasn’t been answered. But what I do think they do is they definitely admit their mistakes. They didn’t draft a DTackle in this uh this year’s draft. They went and got two. And they’re both pretty solid. Briggs is young on a a contract that’s a couple more years. He’s looked solid. Phillips is a nice savvy vet. They they admit their mistakes. They signed Sherwood. That’s a disaster. He’s not a scheme fit and and they probably couldn’t trade him or they and they probably wanted to. They paid S. They made him the highest paid quarterback. I think they’re regretting it. He’s not a scheme fit. They bet on his potential. They said, “Listen, this man said he’s going to practice tackling. He wants to be here. He’s a great kid. He doesn’t get in trouble. we’re gonna bet on his potential and we’re gonna pay him. And I think after watching eight games, they’re like I don’t think they had him on the on the uh trading black. I think the the Colts just said, “Who’s who’s available?” And two first and a and a player. That’s incredible, man. We only got a first for Derell Reeves. Like I just I just think that the value they’re admitting that sauce is not a scheme fit. They’re admitting that they aren’t comfortable with Sauce isn’t a leader. He he’s he’s getting the most money on the defense. He’s not even a captain. Like they’re looking at him and they’re maybe thinking they made a mistake. If Sauce goes to the Colts and starts picking the ball off, I will 100% going to No chance. If he does, and by the way, the rebound doesn’t even work. He doesn’t sniff interceptions. He doesn’t sniff them. He doesn’t get them in their hands and drop them. He doesn’t come close to interceptions. If he goes, he has to get targeted. That’s why we just like that. Like you’re watching the games 30 on us, you know? Like I I just I love sauce, but two first is something that I get the value is not the issue, but it’s the fact that we’re here in the first place. They should not be one and seven right now. And now it’s like, oh, they got to trade these guys. Fault though, right? I feel like But that’s No, that’s Glenn’s fault. No, the defense sucked at the beginning. You’re right. That’s Glenn’s fault. That’s Wilks fault. His handpicked DC all the name me a defensive player that has gotten better under Steve Wilks. They’ve all gotten worse. Brownley, which he was not he was not on the team last year though. Muji gets credit like like Brownley’s been a good like the inseason trades have been good. Like give Muji and Glenn credit for that. Fine. But there there hasn’t been enough that gives me the yes, they should be allowed to trade sauce, trade Quinnon, but then not even go all the way in on trading Bree and that’s where I disagree with you. I don’t think that they look at Bree as like, “Yeah, let’s trade Breeze for a fourth.” They look at it like, “Yo, keep them. Extend him.” Uh, maybe do that. But Bree, if Bree plays well, we win games. Bree infects affects the team more than almost anyone else besides Garrett and Justin Fields. Like, he’s a big part of our offense. So, like, getting a fourth for Bree ain’t helping us win games. And I don’t think they want to lose games. They want to win games. Quincy, right? We should have traded Quincy. They’re probably looking at like, yo, Quincy could help us win games. He He could fit our scheme a little better. I think they looked at it as we got a Stevens has been probably our best defensive player the last couple weeks. Ay Thomas is already I trust Joe Buitt and when Joe Buitt tells me that Ay Thomas already looks like making him be like, damn, like this kid’s actually coming to play and he’s showing us tangibles and potential. It’s like, yo, maybe they’re looking at it like, we’re going to get two first round picks. We’re going to let our third round player who has potential now develop and Stevens is playing great. We just won without S. Why not take I I get the, you know, five years of S and all that, but S has been struggling in this scheme. He’s been he’s been holding too much. He’s been trailing players in man. He still can’t sniff an interception. And then it’s like, how do you say no to that trade? I if you got off if I offered you that trade before the deadline and said, “Yo, would you give up two first round picks for sauce?” I don’t know if you would have said no. But here’s the problem, it it’s the fact that we’re here in the first place. They shouldn’t be one and seven. That’s the problem. You still You could have all the picks you want. If your head coach is terrible, you’re not winning [ __ ] anyway. We’re not winning. We’re not winning with this guy. That’s my fear. I don’t care how many picks they have. I don’t care. And the reason why you were able to get picks for these players is because they are good football players that have been put in a terrible environment to win. And it’s not getting any better now. That’s the problem. How does this improve? It improves with winning. That’s the only thing that can can warrant anything Glenn does. Glenn needs to get He cannot finish this year with us losing games that like you got to admit though this year, right, we haven’t been blown out too many times. I think it’s been twice where it’s been ugly, right? It’s like both fields fault. Uh the Buffalo game and what the Cowboys game, right? Those are the two. I mean, the defense sucked in those games too, though. It wasn’t just Fields. Agreed. The defense has not been better until we played shittier teams. And Fields could be blamed specifically for the Fields and Glenn should be blamed for the London debacle because Glenn’s decision-m at the end of each half was horrendous and he should have benched Fields. And the Carolina game was horrific. I mean, they they they the defense did it. They allowed 13 points and still lost. I I really do believe that um when you when you eliminate a quarterback and a DTackle that yes, they’ve been all pro before. I think it still is going to revert to quarterback winning. We will not be able to evaluate this trade until we pick our quarterback and we see what happens with that because that is everything. and getting these picks, getting what we got for Quinnon is is unreal. A first and a second. I mean, we are super loaded the next two years. And it’s not about what they got. It’s how we got here. He could draft though so far in the first two. I mean, okay. Like Joe Douglas, your guy drafted pretty well too with these players. All right. Like quarterback though, right? And this and they like Aaron Glenn’s awareness of offensive football is embarrassing. Like I like Tanner, right? Tanner’s shown a little something. I guess I I mean, you know, I thought he caught a really good game uh you know, against the Bengals, but I don’t know, man. It’s just let’s let’s hope they pick the right quarterback and that guy is so good he could overcome any concerns we have with coaching. Otherwise, they’re going to be bad again. Jake, you know, the Jets are winning Sunday because of how how we all feel. They’re the Browns. The Browns suck. They should win. Who cares? But it’s just it’s just going to be like, “All right, everyone’s been saying, “Oh, man. We just we just traded our two guys cuz we’re in rebuild mode. We’re not winning another game.” And then we’re going to come win a game. I look, they could they should win a game. They should win multiple games. There’s not like there’s still good players on this team. Even without sauce and Quinnon, they still have Garrett Wilson and an offensive line. They didn’t trade Bree, so they still have him. Like Mason Taylor looks good. Like glad we didn’t trade JJ because I I love JJ as a player. I think he’s a great scheme fit. He could stop the run. He could rush the passer. You know, I haven’t been big on Quinnon for his effort has been a little scary the past, you know, two years. He he’s he’s seen he’s always shown me someone who could show a little quit and he doesn’t make enough impact plays. He doesn’t cause any turnovers. He doesn’t cause enough big plays that you’re like, you know, that’s what my whole thing with Sauce, man. Saw has three interceptions in his career and he doesn’t he doesn’t like get close enough to like jump in a pass. It’s always a deflect and he’s also never targeted. Like there’s like numbers that prove this. Like like I I I don’t know, man. I’ve I’ve when uh what’s his name was on here um from Youth Stadium. Why am I missing his name? Frankie, help me out. When Frankie was on his when his sauce thing, I he was going a little overboard, but I was like, you know, man, he’s got some points. He’s got some I saw this, too. I saw this. We act like this like like it’s And also, it’s not that once again, they got a lot for these players, Bonesian. Good call, man. I I I love love the passion. It it’s just we’re we’re now locked into this regime for a couple more years. They don’t like that’s what scares me the most. They don’t they don’t they haven’t earned this. like they they sold Woody Johnson on on this plan and then completely changed the plan and Woody’s just going along with it because he has no clue. So yeah, I mean it could work. Pick the right quarterback. But okay, couple notes here. There was another trade the Jets made. It’s a nothing burger trade, but it is a trade. They made a deal with the Chargers. They traded away a 2028 conditional seventh for cornerback J just Taylor. He was drafted in 2022 in the sixth round or Jier Taylor. Jier Taylor, corner, sixth round pick, played at Wake Forest. He’s actually from New Jersey. He’s from He’s from He went to uh Brick Township. It’s from Asbury Park, it says on his Pro Football reference page. So, a minor trade there. And then the other move that it’s not a move, but something I wanted to talk about is Germaine Johnson’s tweet. This is why I’m thrilled they didn’t trade him. Germaine posted, “I’d be lying if I said I was happy my brothers are gone, cuz I’m not. I’m sick. But I believe strongly in the organization staff and my other brothers in the locker room. I said when I got drafted, I wanted to be the reason or part of the reason this thing gets changed for the better.” And that’s going to continue to be my outlook. I love this team and this fan base and y’all will continue to get my all, my absolute best on and off the field. Let’s look onward and upward because better things are coming and I get my word on that. Go Jets always. This is the guy who if if you’re going to buy any Jet jersey, there’s two of them you should buy. A number five or a number 11. And they better extend Germaine Johnson. This is the guy you keep. So I’m thrilled they didn’t trade him today. But I love his optimism, man. But I don’t know how I I don’t know if you’re if you’re a Jet fan, how you could be blindly optimistic. Yes, they got great value for two great players they traded. It means nothing. You don’t have a head coach right now. I’ll feel better if Aaron Glenn proves he’s a good coach the rest of the way, but if they lose, you guys are all going to say, “Oh, Jake, what did you expect? They’re supposed to lose. Look at the talent.” And it’s like, nice. Here now you have your built-in excuse. Congratulations, Ralphie. There’s no way AG’s guaranteed all of 26. Carolina, New England, Chicago, Tennessee, all got rid of coaches early once they drafted their QB1. Oh, he’s going to get all of 2026. Ralphie, let’s be real. None of those teams you mentioned did their coach also have GM power, right? Mattflu wasn’t the GM. In Tennessee, Callahan wasn’t the GM. New England. Mike Vrabel is now the GM. He Elliot W Elliot Wolf reports to him now. So Glenn, the Jets can win four games next year. He could have proven at that point that he’s a terrible coach and he’s getting a year three after what they did today. That’s my problem with this. We are now locked into Aaron Glenn for two more years no matter what. So, he has to improve. Otherwise, I don’t care how many picks they have. They’re not going to win. Jet fans anonymous. Several first round picks and shedding huge contracts is huge for us. Can the Jets do something with that? That’s the big question. It’s not huge for them. They already had 75 million in cap space this year and we’re going to have a top three pick to get a quarterback. Hennessy says, “Sauce pick six first game with the Colts.” Well, well, now we’re rooting against the Colts every week and this is like the Seattle thing all over again. We rooted against Jamal Adams. I don’t want to root against us, but I hope he doesn’t win a lot of games. I hope Daniel Jones plays like Giants Daniel Jones. The Cowboys, the first round pick is the better of the two first round picks. Either Green Bay or Dallas. So, we’ll see how next year looks for that. The two this year is great. Look, the returns are great today. It’s not about that, though. It’s how we got here and how we are now moving the goalpost and giving a new regime that has sucked so far guaranteeing them two more years. NYJ Jake’s life is like Als from Married with Children. I’ve never seen Married with Children, so I will take your word for it. Joe says, “Please tell us who you would get when you fire Glenn.” an offensive coach with previous head coaching experience, but they’re not gonna fire Aaron Glenn now. So, we’re not gonna entertain it. He’s not going anywhere. You can’t wait for me to sing their praises next year. I hope I do. See, if you’re new to the show, I talk about the scene for four hours a day, year round, right? I’m as dieh hard of a Jet fan as you’re going to find. So, I hope they are great and Glenn is awesome and I could be like, “Wow, he really improved. I was dead wrong about him.” I hope I get to say that. But I I can’t pretend like I feel that like that’s going to happen. I can’t lie to you guys. I got to just tell you my honest opinions in real time. And when there’s new evidence to evaluate and change my opinion, I have no problem changing it. But I I don’t know how anyone could look at what has happened this year and be like, “Yep, they got a real plan. This was this was not part of it.” More calls. Jack is next. Hey, Jack. What’s up, Jake? Um, not sure if you remember, but eight days ago, I called you and Robbie Sabo and I floated uh a trade proposal that would send sauce to the Eagles for two first rounders. You did. I said there was no way that the Eagles were going to do it or the Jets would do it because they just paid them. But here we go. Yeah. Got the got the team wrong. But, uh, I think you obviously know where I stand on this. I I think the the problem from your end is that I think you probably hold Sauce and both um uh Qu Williams in a bit higher regard than a lot of Jets fans do. I mean I I agree with you. I think they’re both good players. I think the problem with with Sauce was always the amount of money that he made. I think the league agreed with me though, Jack. That doesn’t concern you. Like the fact you were able to get this because other teams are like, “Yeah, they’re not being used properly. They’re in a terrible environment that’s not conducive to winning. we’ll bring them here and they’re going to be successful. Like that’s the problem 100%. I mean I I I argued that sauce was better served on a contender. I think these are the prime years. Uh the next three years for him are the prime years, right? Age 25, 26, 27, 28. I think the where the Jets are, he’d kind of just be wasted here. Um by the time the Jets plan to be good like sauce is probably next year, they got the quarterback. Look at the Patriots. I I just Yeah, I mean it’s all true. Texans look look at the commanders last year. Like it doesn’t take that long. We like we’re now being sold on this long rebuild again. It shouldn’t take that long. It really get the quarterback right. Problem is they could get the quarterback right, Jack. And my big fear is if we if if they get the quarterback right, we might not know because the coaching is so bad. I also wouldn’t rule out I mean you’ve got five first round picks in the next two years. If the Jets are picking at the top of the draft, it’s possible they trade down and acquire more first rounders. I’m going to float another little trade possibility your way. Uh, which I’m sure I’ll be shot down on. But to send a rookie court you say anymore, Jack. I mean, you had Sauce Gardner being dealt before anyone who quarterback the Jets are going to now trade for Joe Burrow. And hear me out on this. You’ve got trade my entire draft for Joe Burrow immediately. It’s not going to happen. But I hope I hope it does. I hope you’re right. I believe I I I just think that he’s in a situation in Cincinnati. He’s in the middle of his prime. He’s been injured a bunch. They’ve had quarterbacks go in there and perform at a really high level. I mean, you wouldn’t notice the difference statistically between Joe Flacco and Joe Burrow. I just wonder, knowing how cheap that organization is, do they decide like if we can get three first rounders for Joe Burrow, do they end up pulling the trigger on that? I mean, their window is basically closed. Um, I I’m I’m just wondering from their perspective if like that is a possibility that they would do it. I just think from the Jets perspective, you know, if you did go the rookie route, you’re in a much better position than Sam Darnold ever was where you’ve got a receiver, you’ve got a couple running backs, you’ve got a solid offensive line, you now have the draft capital to go get some more receivers. Like, you’re putting him in a better spot. That would obviously be my preferred route. But like, if you think about what Aaron Glenn has done, he’s trying to copy like the Lions playbook, right? where I think he would prefer to have like a Jared Goff veteran quarterback that he can just pair with with with uh with an offensive coordinator and not have to worry about that side of the ball. I just I don’t think he has the time to bet on a rookie quarterback because the early results on a quarterback are never good. Um with very rare exceptions. The Jets history has obviously been terrible with rookie quarterbacks. finding a veteran who might be on the market, I think, is the is could be what they’re gearing up for, but that’s a wild card prediction. Uh I don’t stand by it if it doesn’t work out. Yeah, I look I I I would love it. I don’t think it’s going to happen. I don’t. Uh let’s see. JJ, been on hold two hours because I really want to say 95 and one or overrated. Surprised we got what we got. Defense terrible this year. AG also to blame. Well, I’m looking for you right now, JJ. I don’t see you on hold, but thanks for waiting. I got a bunch of people on hold. I’m going in order here. Tommy’s next. Hello, Tommy. Jake, thanks for taking my call. Um, you can hear me. Okay, I hear you. Let it rip, Tommy. Okay. All right. Uh, I’m going to be fast. I know that you were on for over almost three and a half hours now. Um, two positive things for the Jets family today is you killed it today on uh ESPN New York radio. You killed it. Um, and boy Green’s son turns one years old today. So, God bless his son. Happy birthday. Um, you had a whole bunch of great callers call in and I agree with some of their takes and I disagree with with some of them. Like um I’m not as negative as Hamburger. I’m not as negative as Neil, but uh the thing is what I what what gets to me hold on because everything you said today I agree with and you speak a hell of a lot better than me. It’s in my brain but you’re speaking it. Um, we didn’t get we got two first round picks for Sauce, but one is in 2027. So, we got one first round pick for next year. And with Quinn, we got a second round pick and the first round pick is in 2027. So to me as a Jet fan, it’s basically saying, you know, whatever we did positive against Cincinnati, like you you already gave up on this year and you’re giving up on next year because if we when we draft our quarterback next year, um he’s going to have to, you know, he’s have to he’s going to have to develop and you got three first round. So, you’re basically saying two years are just shot and and you’re you’re you’re hoping for 2027 uh to turn out and uh I don’t understand why Quincy wasn’t traded, but Quinnon was. And I don’t understand Quincy wanted to be traded. You see his tweet from just seeing this. Also, Tommy, your audio now is acting like you’re underwater. Good lord. Quincy just had a tweet. I’m seeing this. He tweeted a gif of like Will Smith going like this and it says I mean I mean how do how do you not get something from him? H just the pain never ends. JJ’s next. Hello JJ. You’re Mr. Jay Gasman. I will I will say this man. uh you’ve built a heck of a platform on YouTube and for the most part people usually agree with you. I think today is the first day that you you you’re getting significant push back. I think the day the day they got rid of Rogers and I screamed that it was a bad decision. I would have kept him. That was probably the most. But I I I once again I don’t care if people agree with me or disagree with me. It’s my authentic opinion and and everyone’s entitled to their own. You know, that’s it. That’s true. But I I for the first time ever I never agree with Neil, but I kind of agree with Neil. Um, I I do believe that Sauce Gardner and Quinnon Williams are overrated. I’m sorry, but when you look at Quinnon Williams, the excuse everyone gives me for him is, “Oh, he gets double teamed.” I mean, so what? Aaron Donald got double teamed. Okay, let’s not compare him to Aaron Aaron Donald. Fine. Chris Jones gets double teamed. Dexter Lawrence gets double teamed. Uh, what’s his guy’s name? Via, I probably said it wrong, but he gets double teamed with the Bucks. every all the good defensive tackles get double team and they still find a way to make it an impact on the game. And I’ll say this, I mean, our defense has been worse than our offense overall this year. Um, in my opinion, they’re they’ve had flashes, but overall, they’ve been worse. And at the end of the day, you have Quinnon Williams on the defense, you have Sauce Garner on the defense, and they they haven’t made any impact. They haven’t caused any turnovers. And you would think if you have a a stud D lineman and a stud corner that you would have more sacks on the season because the corner should be doing his job not allowing guys to get open and you get more cover sacks, coverage sacks or something. No, we haven’t seen it. So, um us losing these two players um and getting what we got from them is is shocking to me that we were able to trade and get what we’ve gotten for them. On the flip side though, with that being said, our defense shouldn’t be this bad. if you’re able to get first round picks for these players. So, I’m going to be a little contradictory here. If you’re able to get first round picks for these players and your defense should be a lot better. So, that’s where we have to talk about Aaron Glenn. And I I don’t remember the caller, but there was a caller who was arguing with you and trying to tell you, hey, listen, Aaron Glenn shouldn’t be, you know, an untouchable next year. Um, I agree with you that they aren’t they aren’t going to fire him. I just don’t like how you’re kind of like okay with it. You I’m okay with it. I’m not okay with it. I I I don’t want them back next year if they finish with the worst record in the league. I’ve been on the record saying that they shouldn’t get to pick a quarterback first overall. This is not a first overall roster. Like, they shouldn’t be one and seven in the first place. We should not have gotten to this point where, you know, trading these guys ended up being like a move you can argue makes sense because they’ve done such a bad job taking a team that did have talent and making it worse and now we got to blow the whole thing up again. Like, that’s my concern with all this. We’ve now guaranteed this regime two more years. They’re not getting fired if they win three or four games in 2026. They’ll blame it on a rookie quarterback that needed to go get through the growing pains and then they’re going to go out there and use their three first round picks in 27 to supplement the roster and make the playoffs that year. That’s now the pitch. We’re now signing up for two more years of this regime. And it only gets better if Glenn improves and if they hit on the right quarterback. Otherwise, they’re going to be bad again next year. We’re not winning. Well, Mr. Bonesie was on earlier and I always like to throw shots at Mr. Bones because he thinks Joe Douglas was great. But you kind of shared a sentiment that, you know, this is going to be year zero for them. And this was the same sentiment you guys shared when Joe Douglas first stepped into the building with Robert Ser that that four and 13 season shouldn’t count because they were playing with, you know, uh, practice squad players and practice squad players and all that stuff. In my opinion, right, I feel like this is the same story that we’ve already seen where, you know, a new regime is coming in and they’re saying, “Hey, the the players that we have aren’t good enough to win and we have to rebuild.” And in the past, you guys were open to it and now you you guys are all so against it. I think that I was completely wrong about Robert Salah. I don’t think Robert Salah was as bad as I thought he was. In retrospect, it was actually uh Joe Douglas was a terrible GM and Robert Salah had the team playing better than the the talent that was on the team. When you look back at the at at what’s transpired, you can clearly see, okay, we didn’t have as good as a football roster as we thought we did and or the coaching this year is so much worse. Well, no, two things could be true. I think the coaching is even worse and it’s highlighting how bad the players actually are. I don’t think these players are that I think it’s a combination of both Joe Douglas and Robert Salah were not overall great at their jobs. I don’t think it’s like what to what you’re saying where oh Salah took guys that weren’t good and made them better. I I think he maximized the players they did have and my fear with Glenn is a lot of the players he chose to keep was because he didn’t think they were coached properly last year and he was going to get the most. Remember Will McDonald the whole thing with him and Conor Hughes. It’s coaching man. It’s coaching. Will McDonald has been nowhere near the level of player that he was last year. I think there’s just so many examples of that, right? That’s my big thing. I think me and you are kind of saying the same thing in different ways. I agree with you that Robert Salah and Joe Douglas were both not great at their job. I think Joe Douglas was just worse and Robert Salah was able to maximize what he was given. Obviously, they didn’t have the quarterback and then even when they did get the quarterback, the roster wasn’t good enough with Aaron Rogers uh to win. So, and I think Aaron Glenn is just at this point historically the worst head coach we’ve seen. Well, I’ve seen um in my lifetime. Um but with that all being said, hey, you never know what can happen. I mean, next year, I know you’re not going to entertain talks about who that uh the quarterback will be, and you don’t want to entertain talks about Archie Manny, but you know, I think Archie Manning is going to come out in the draft, and maybe we draft him, maybe we draft the Mendoza kid, maybe we draft whoever it is, but at the same time, we have uh 90 million in cap space, so we don’t even really necessarily need to use these draft picks to go draft somebody. We can trade these draft picks for for for a player. Um, you know, the quarterback though. It’s all about who the quarterback is. Kyler Murray in this. Yeah, I know you wouldn’t want like a Kyler Murray or something like that. But I mean, what if we whoever it is that we get, we have enough uh uh pieces around us with Bree Hall, Garrett Wilson, Mason Taylor as the core uh a core O line, which I I’m seeing improvement week after week. We have a core on offense and then the defense it I mean it was trash with Queen and it was trash with sauce. So I think with everything that we we’ve just got for these two guys, we have the makings to be a better team. It’s all going to come down to coaching at the end of the day. Aaron Glenn talks about coaching is coaching. with everything that Muji has done because you guys keep saying that it’s Aaron Glenn who’s doing this, but whoever with everything that they’ve done, they have the the opportunity to build a better team and and and take us from 1 and seven to, you know, something possibly better. I don’t have any faith, though. So, I will say this, Jake, you were right. I’m stupid for saying that if we beat the Browns, I’ll renew my season tickets. I come to the conclusion that I’m not renewing no matter what. I don’t care anymore because I don’t I I personally don’t see this getting better next year. However, I am optimistic that with all these first round draft picks, with all with 90 million cap space, like I mean, we can’t be much worse, right? I mean, they could just be bad again though, right? Like, like it can it can turn around if they get real improvements from this head coach and they pick the right quarterback. Like, but now my my issue is JJ, it’s not that they traded the players they traded. It’s that it now signals that this regime, which has done nothing but make a team that had talent worse to get to a point where they’re one and seven in the first place, we have now given them two more years no matter what. And and I just I don’t like that. I don’t like that no one’s going to be held accountable for the disastrous decisions they made from this the second they were hired. But I will say this, right? Like it to I think it was uh Jason in Jerusalem said this. It it’s a little bit different when you’re watching film and then when you actually get into the building in person and then you’re evaluating and maybe they they they misealuated through film and now that they’re actually being asked to evaluate a quarterback and who they’re going to take and then what they need around that quarterback to make them successful. That’s my fear, which I agree. So, and this is my question to you and the rest of the Jets fans, what what do we do now? So, what do we do with these picks? We pray we pray. We we hope do we draft a quarterback? Do we try to do like what Detroit did and and and trade for somebody? I mean, obviously it was a even swap Matthew Stafford for um Jared G, but do we try to do that or do we try to draft and develop a guy? Like, we have a lot of of capital now. So, what do we do with this capital? You know, we’re in we’re in a better trade for a quarterback. I think what they’re going to do though, they’re going to heavily load up on on players that could help their young quarterback, which is smart. That like like the the approach they’re taking is right, just like the approach the Jets took rebuilding their team postgase was right. You got quarterback, you tried to draft offensive linemen, tried to draft playmakers, Breeze, Garrett, you go out there, you sign some guys in free agency you thought could help you on that side of the ball. Like they did everything right the previous regime except they missed on quarterback. And then Douglas to his fault was way too stubborn to admit he missed on that quarterback till it was too late. They got a legit backup. They probably could have made the playoffs that 2023 season, right, when Rogers went down. So like I I like Well, all we could hope is that they they learn from the mistakes that they have made and improve. But I don’t like about this is we’re now guaranteeing them a job for all of next year and probably 27 as well. And I don’t think they’ve earned that. But I’ll be all in if they make the right moves and they’re winning. Like we all just want to we all want the same thing. We all want to see this team win games. But I don’t think the Jets became a better team today because they now have future picks. If the coaches got awful, we’re only going to go so far. We’ve had talented teams that didn’t win. Why? We all blame coaching. We still have the same problem today. But overall, I think I don’t think we’re a better team necessarily, but overall, I think we’re in a better position to win next year than we were uh at the beginning of the day. Like in in the beginning of this morning, if we, you know, would have went 10 and seven and went out and went to the playoffs and then next year try to run it back with this squad, I think that it wouldn’t have been a good a good thing for us. I think that it was time for us to realize, hey, maybe Quinnon Williams isn’t as good as we thought we was. And then now we’re able to get a second round pick and a first round pick for him and then S Gardner, two first round picks, and he’s probably not even to be honest with you, arguably right now he’s not even top five quarterbacks in the league right now. And and we got two first rounds for him. I think it was a steal and I think that overall going into next year the Colts see this is a guy that’s really good that’s going to help him and he’s going to be Yeah. The Colts are the Colts people are laughing at the Colts like why would you pay two first rounds for this guy. I mean there’s better quarterbacks out there that are probably on worse teams that or not worse teams but just as bad teams that you could have trade for and got way less and could come in and make an impact for you. So all I’m saying is I don’t think that we’re going to be a better team next year. However, I do think though we are in position to be as long as Aaron Glenn gets his head out of his a-hole um and and and learns how to coach, then we we you know, we can have something. That’s that’s great. We just need our head coach to learn how to coach and we’ll be good. Awesome. That’s the problem, man. It’s like the picks. It’s not the problem with the picks. It’s that we got here because of their incompetence and be and they use their incompetence to now give them an extra two years of job security. That’s what I think people are missing here. It’s not the return. Like, they got a lot for Sauce and they got a lot for Quinn. I’m not criticizing the return. I just don’t like the fact that we’ve now guaranteed these guys all of next year if they win four games and they’re going to get 27 in all likelihood, too. Glenn’s not getting fired. They got three first round picks in 2027. It’s going to be sold as, hey, we got our quarterback in 2026. He went through growing pains. Now in 2027, we put the final pieces on our team, baby. we’re ready to go. And it’s just like when do we ever win? We’re already We’re not winning next year. The playoff drafts at 15 now. We’ll be at 16 by the end of next year. And if Aaron Glenn is this bad, is it really going to turn around? Like, but Jake, Dan Campbell was bad, too. Awesome. Let’s bank on outliers as the reason why this will turn around. I I hope everyone out there is right. Believe me, I’m just like I got to keep it real. I I I could smell where this is headed and I don’t like it. And honestly, when I smelt the four- win season after they got rid of Rogers, I was being too kind. And yet, I bought into what Glenn was saying all summer and I moved my win total to six. They’re not sniffing more than what, two or three wins, maybe. And And now there’s like if they get embarrassed by Mike Vrael and the Patriots on Thursday Night Football, there’s no consequence of that. Very frustrating. I I just I hope I hope Glenn gets better. I I hope he improves and I hope they pick the right quarterback and they surround that quarterback with what he needs to have a chance cuz that’s what it all comes down to. [Music] You might be purple, but he can still kick your dirty ass. Jake, do me a favor. For the last time for my wife, cuz she’s upset that Q’s gone. Play the Q for her. She’s watching. Play the uh the Q dance for her. Oh, I got to have to find it. I don’t have it handy right now. Hold on. All right, let me see what I can do. Uh, in the meantime, I’m I’m kind of pissed off. Not that we traded everybody, but the fact that we were sold that we were going to win now and now we’re rebuilding. So, we basically threw this year away when we should have did this just in the off season. And everyone’s happy about the picks. The picks aren’t that good because you’re not going to hit 100% of the time on your picks. You’re not going to. The first round picks there there’s a 50% fail rate. So for you to think that you’re gonna hit gold on all of them is just delusional. You’re going to miss on those picks. You’re not going to go seven for seven. So my opinion is next year we shouldn’t draft a quarterback if they’re if it’s not at our pick and and get rid of the picks and draft up because we have a lot of holes now. A lot of holes on this team. And draft where you are or trade back and get as much as you can and try to hit on that. And if the quarterback is there, let’s say we have the number one overall pick, fine. Or if we’re the fifth overall pick and the quarterback is there, fine. But don’t force the quarterback because you have two years now to draft the quarterback. Yeah, but they’re going to take a quarterback, Mike. Like, that sounds nice, but they’re going to be under the gun to get someone. See, I hope that they don’t because then we’re going to because But then we’re giving them more time then because then they get to use, oh, well, we didn’t like any of these quarterbacks. We’re focused on 2027. And then, oh, you can’t fire us after 2027. We only had one year with our handpicked quarterback. We need like they got to win games, man. Quarterback and they don’t like it, then I don’t think they’re going to force a quarterback. Their job is to find a quarterback that they that they believe in and take them. There’ll be someone they could get. 2020 draft, right? And a quarterback really every year. A mistake was not taking one this year in the later rounds. Correct. Yep. I you know because if if I don’t even know if this is possible. This might be like super delusional but let’s just say next year we draft our picks and none of them are a quarterback. Cincinnati sucks and then in 2027 like all right give us three your three firsts and you’ll get Burrow. I mean I would do that in a heartbeat. So uh yeah. So would I but I’ll tell you what the Bengals aren’t going to give you Joe Burrow. So I I think they would. Oh, no. I I don’t think they will. They paid him. He took them to a Super Bowl. He’s the best thing to happen to their franchise since I don’t know. You tell me. Boomeris. Like, they’re not going to trade Joe Bar sauce and got rid of him. I guess anything’s happening. It’s a franchise quarterback, though. That’d be like the Jets finally getting a quarterback and then trading him. Would get rid of him. I would do it for Burrow. I love Burrow. I think I would trade him. I Here’s the deal I would make for Joe Burrow. They get our first round draft pick every year until Joe Burrow retires or or he’s not on the Jets anymore. I would literally do that deal every year. They get our first because he’s Joe Burrow, but he’s not gonna be available. You’re not gonna get him. Yeah. I I wish. And And I’m also pissed off about one thing. It’s that why did we turn down the fourth round pick from from the Chiefs because Bree is not reported that that was out there. It’s It’s all over the place. Yeah. Frankie V’s got it. Um it’s it’s l it’s all over. I need to know which NFL, not Frankie, who’s who’s, you know, taking it and they’re repurposing it on Duke Stadium. Which, someone send me or tell me which NFL reporter said that the Jets had a fourth on the table for Breeze from Kansas City? Cuz if they did and didn’t take it, they better now extend them. Dini. Dannini reported it, too. Dannini said the Jets got a fourth on the table for Bree from the Chiefs. Yeah. Then I would have done that. And unless you’re telling me you’re going to keep Bree Hall. If not, then I think it’s taking out a trade. They should have just took it. I don’t know. We’ll see. I I just I don’t I don’t have a lot of faith in this regime and it sucks. But I don’t see a tweet where she said they got that. The only tweet I see from her on Bree is the Jets asking price for Bree is a third round pick. Teams, you get to meet their asking price with an hour to go to the deadline. There was nothing about the Chiefs offering that. So, I I don’t know if that’s true. I’m not going to run with that. All right. Let me I’ll find it and then I’ll send it to you. Sounds good. And if your wife is watching, this is for her. Quinnon gets the sack. Oh, Baker goes down. Quinnon and Big D now, baby. Quinnon gets the sack. Oh, Baker goes down. Unreal. What a day. All right, membership, super chats. We got a raffle coming up here. Uh, this will be one of the longest shows we’ve ever done, but you know what? Fine. It is what it is. This is what we do around here. By the way, if you haven’t joined the Patreon yet and you want 10 raffle tickets, join patreon.com/jakeasman show. I will add you to our raffle tomorrow for a signed field jersey, signed correet football, signed RIP Nick Mangled football. Matt L is in the Asmaniac raffle. Yeah, go to eat a damn snack. Thank you, Matt. Nick Shine says free money for everyone this weekend. Bet sauce to get a pick. I agree. So, he will get an interception sooner rather than later. You know, that’s coming. And let’s not act like because Saw didn’t have a pick this year, he’s not having an allp pro level season. He is. I mean, Dylan said it earlier. He’d be a second team all pro. Jake, I agree with your concern. Tiki Barber just said it’s normal to break it down when you get a new coach. Well, Glenn ain’t the right coach. Do we then break it down again? That’s the problem, right? But they didn’t break it down right away. They took a team and said that they were going to be better than what they were a year ago because they weren’t coached properly. And they did such a bad job that they now pivoted to blowing the whole thing up. It didn’t need to be this way. And now by blowing it up, we have now guaranteed that the coach who’s also the deacto head decision maker with personnel gets all of next year no matter what. He doesn’t need to win. He’s getting all of this year because the games now don’t matter. He’s getting all of next year and we can only hope that he gets better and improves because we’re stuck with them either way. Joe writes in, “Our Jets luck will be the Cowboys will be playing the Colts in Super Bowl 2027.” I look, we could say that the Adams trade worked out great. They got Garrett Wilson because Seattle in year two with Jamal was terrible. That’s why it was a top 10 pick. We can only hope. We need Daniel Jones to play like Giants Daniel Jones. Then we need the Cowboys and Packers to be bad. It’s pro more likely to be the Cowboys, I suppose, because the Jets first and 27 is the worst of the two or I guess the better of the two from a draft positioning standpoint. Henny says, “We always win trades, never win games. You’re not wrong. That’s a That’s a moral victory. [Music] Now that my friends is how now that’s what I call music. Now back to the Jake Edmond show. Take it away Jake. Like I gas right now. [Music] Ladies and gentlemen, more of your calls. The Love Man is on the line. You had to make me laugh again, Jake. That’s what you do best. I don’t know how I’m laughing today though. Wow. I mean, wow. Dja Vu all over again. We have all fixed. It’s a great day. According to It’s like But it’s like Groundhog’s Day, but Jet style, right? We do the same thing. We get all this talent. We [ __ ] it up. We We you know, the coaches stink and then we get these draft packs and we hope again and then we fall back on our face. It’s like deja vu all over again. And I know the pain, Jake. The pain is we had this talent and we had this talent. We hoping this coaching staff would be coaches and they could get this talent up to the next level and then they find out after one and seven. They suck and now they’re going to get more years. That’s that’s the pain that we’re feeling right now. That’s the pain is that these talented players that under being a Jet has been miserable for them instead of seeing them flourish. Can we get some good talent to flourish? Do we have anybody who could flourish? That’s where the pain is, Jake. That’s what I’m feeling. Are you feeling the same thing that this regime just [ __ ] on that talent? They’re going to haul. Yeah, they’re going to haul, but we’re going to do the same thing we did last, you know, last four years ago is we’re going to we’re going to get this great talent again, be excited about it, and then we’re going to have the wrong coaches. What can we get for our defensive coordinator? How that can we get a good pick for him? Can we do something like that? I mean, it’s it’s it’s like this cycle of jet life. That’s what I’m feeling right now. What do you Are you feeling the same thing, Jake? Yeah, I mean it’s just I I I I I get the thought process of doing it. I don’t like the people that are allowed to do this because I don’t think they they’ve shown me any any ability to have a real plan for like like this was not the original plan and we’re only here because of their incompetency and I don’t like that. So I’m very concerned. And now he’s got more years. It’s the same cycle. It’s the same cycle that we’ve been going through. Something has to change. It’s like the definition of sanity. Keep doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. I mean, maybe I if if Woody really had half his sense, if Glenn sucks the rest of the year or it shows his incompetency because now it’s going to be You do what they did in New England. Yeah. You do what they did in New England. You fire them against somebody else. And the only thing I saw, which is a glimmer, you got a glimmer of the offensive coordinator. You got a glimmer of uh the the GM. You got a couple of glimmers that we had them with Douglas. We had them with other regimes. It’s just it’s it’s it’s if they weren’t the right fit, they should have started out the season by doing the trades they needed to trade and started out fresh at the beginning of the season of the middle of the season when they realized that wrong. They evaluated the talent wrong in the beginning and now we’re going to expect them to evaluate the talent in the draft next. That That’s a problem to me. That’s a problem. Yeah, let me with you. And by the way, uh Connor Hughes of SNY was the one who said that the Jets apparently had a fourth on the table for Bree and they said no, they wanted the third. So if that’s true, then they should have taken that or they extend Bree Hall. If you lose him for nothing, even if you get a comp pick, it’s not going to be a fourth. And the comp pick you couldn’t even use till 2027. Just keep Breeze, right? He’s going to help your rookie quarterback next year. Zedward says, “We have trade capital. Maybe we could poach a good starting QB from another team. Who’s giving you a legit quarterback in the NFL? The next time the Jets trade for a future starting quarterback, right, that will take over and be the unquestioned starter. The next time they do that will be in 2038. All right. Not until then. When they acquire Jordan Love from the Packers in 2038, that will be the next time we make that type of move. All right. That that’s the next time it’s happening. They’re drafting a quarterback. Jet Johnny, who’s had some of the dumbest comments in the history of the written word today, but he’s back from the shadow realm, says, “You don’t blow up a team before the season.” Yeah, you know when you do it in the offseason last year. Not now. Not after you extended sauce. Not after you told Quinnon Williams it wasn’t a rebuild. You should have said it was a rebuild and we’ll trade them in. No, they completely misevaluated their roster, their talent, and their coaching is a big reason why they’re one and seven right now and had to do this. I don’t care how many picks you have. If your head coach is this bad, it will not matter. So, he has to improve because he’s going to be here. Peter Store is in the raffle for five. I like what JJ said. I could get with some of these players that are not good. Get it that these teams antied up. Those teams are in trouble with those positions. defensive rebuild, add a a QB, receiver two and three, and let’s see. I mean, all their picks should be on offensive players at the beginning, right? They actually have, I think, decent corners. They don’t have sauce, but Stevens has played well of late. I like what I saw from Ay Thomas. He has to be good. They use a third rounder on him. I mean, come on, man. They got to get safety help, that’s for sure. Design mine. Imagine hiring a sales manager who makes no sales all year than putting them in charge of training new sales reps. That’s what the Jets just did. Yeah, it’s risky. It’s not like Aaron Glenn is a proven coach and he’s tearing it like Shawn Peyton when he took over Denver and he got rid of Russ and they dealt with it. Like he’s proven himself. Aaron Glenn’s not proven anything. He has Shawn Peyton power, right? Because Pton’s the decision maker there just like Glenn is here and he hasn’t won anything. But I I I I hope he starts winning more. I mean, I think we all do. All right, home stretch of calls here. If you’re on hold, you’re guaranteed to get on the show. But up next, we say hello to a legend. Heat. Heat. [Music] Not this one, but that one. So, two weeks ago, we were ready to run Aaron Glenn out of town on a rail, right? 0 and6. If he if he doesn’t win more than three games, he’s not going to be back. we make these moves today which I I don’t think anyone can really argue with the value that they got back but now they basically I think that they’re they’re in for a guaranteed four years of Glenn because especially if they keep these picks and they make them right if if they go all in and they try and uh trade for or or trade up and get a quarterback and they expend some of that capital that maybe maybe he’ll be gone after year three, but I think he’s going to have a fourth year now. And I based on what we saw in the first six or so games, both with the media and the in-game stuff, I don’t think, he’s the guy. Like, that’s the thing. That’s the thing that worries me. Like, it is it possible that we hired the right GM and the wrong head coach because it certainly is. Yeah. I mean, but but the thing is like any big move like this is not Muji necessarily. Like Muji could be the one. But yeah, it’s him extracting the value though, right Jake? That’s true. I I but I I don’t know if he was all in on on these particular moves here. I don’t know. Yeah. I I like I’m a I’m not so frustrated, you know, obviously with the Quinn. Uh, I’m not I I don’t even like G giving AD Mitchell is probably a good start. This guy is an incredible athlete. He’s got decent size. Uh, he might be he might be uh an a good ex distraction across from from Garrett. That might be like a a hidden gem. Um, you know, I kind of like taking uh, you know, these flyers on these guys that were drafted kind of high like like him and Mazy Smith and and seeing if we can uh, use them um, for the future. You know, Matchi, all these guys. By the way, Muji is speaking right now. The Jets are not airing the press conference on any of their socials. So, when it’s done, I will grab a couple clips and react to it at the end of our show here. But continue, Kyle. Right. But you’re you’re a thousand% right like to get stuck with Bree like either either you trade him first or like you extend him because like once you signal that you’re having a fire sale then you’re never going to be able I mean they must have been adamant that they needed to get a third round pick because that’s what was out there in the media. I I I agree with you. I don’t think that they would have gotten that for him. But like I think what you said was you’re not seeing a a comp pick until 2027 and it’s not going to be the value of uh a Chiefs fourth rounder in in 2026. The Chiefs are really struggling this year. This is the year to go get their fourth rounder. They should have traded Bree if they have no plans to keep him. If they keep him, then I understand why they didn’t trade him. But I like to me they like there needs to be an extension for Bree today. like I like let him know that you value him based on what he’s signaling in social media though, right? I don’t think I I don’t think he wants to be here. So, you’re gonna lose him for nothing. So, if that’s the case, they should have to taken if Connor Hughes’s report from SNY is accurate, they should have taken the fort from the Chiefs and Traded Breeze, right? Uh and and you know, I assume that they made a a lesser deal with the guy they think they can develop, you know, you know, for he’s been in the league for like four years already. Like, I don’t know how much development there is. Uh, I mean a seventh round, what is it? 2028 pick or something like that. Maybe teams value or what have you. Um, maybe maybe they think he he fits what Glenn wants to do. Whatever. I mean, they they’ve shown enough in trading for other teams players, especially with this Brownley deal that I’m I kind of trust them with that a little bit. But like like I I don’t know that I would trust Glenn to build the offense, right? Like they could be the ultimate shot caller on the offense even if we have guys that are running open uh you know downfield in the 10. We don’t have the trigger man for that yet. And I don’t I don’t necessarily trust Glenn’s judgment based on how he’s handled the media and based on on some of his in-game stuff to kind of build this team from the ground up and have the immense power as what you were saying before. It’s it’s a it’s a little daunting to think that we could be doing this every year for the next three years. And and and that’s what I don’t think the fan base gets because we’re we’re fickle, right? Like I feel like we’ve signed up for four years of Glenn when we were we thought we might have an escape hatch and and now that escape hatch and I I usually uh love Adam’s calls, but I I I think that we are attached to him for Glenn for the first Oh, he’s here. Like I’m not mean like I’m not the one and done talk. It’s over. He could lose every game the rest of the way. Aaron Glenn’s not getting fired, right? And you know, like even even if he struggles next year, if he comes in with four wins next year, they’ll say, “Oh, this is the first year with the guys that drafted.” Like they built to look, I don’t I don’t like it, but from a job security standpoint, Aaron Glenn and Darren Muji just bought themselves another two seasons no matter what, pretty much. I mean, unless they go 0 and 17 next year, which is not going to happen because they didn’t go 0 and 17 this year. Like, they have now built in at least two more years. is they’re going to get the rest of this year no matter what. They’ll get all of next year and they’ll get all of 2027 because they’ll use the fact they have three first round picks. That’s it. And and here’s where the team building comes in, right? That all that cap room for a terrible uh free agent class, you need to be able to trade for other teams that uh players that are under contract that are still viable and bring them into your and and bring them into your your building. Yep. and and and I I have some confidence that Muji may be able to do that, but I don’t have ultimate confidence that he’ll be able to do that. It’s just you’re asking a lot for guys that have never done it and like this year has been so bad. Like the reason why we’re here is because of their poor decisions and poor coaching if in the case of Glenn. So it’s like I don’t get how people are like loving today is like this great day. You’re only at this point because you couldn’t take a team that had talent and do anything with it. So this is this was the next best thing you can come up with to try and give yourself, you know, more opportunities to turn it around because you screwed up your evaluation of the team you inherited in the first place. If you don’t have ultimate confidence in Glenn, what it comes down to is you’re crossing your fingers yet again. I appreciate we’re praying. Yeah, great call, Kyle. Well said. I look, I I hope Aaron Glenn’s awesome, but like I’ve seen nothing that tells me he is. And Kyle’s so right. You know, before the Bengals win, even the Glenn uh fanboys were saying, I don’t know, man. like maybe he will be one and done, but now we just gave him two more years. Here’s Muji’s opening statement. I’ve seen some of the quotes. I’m calling BS on some of them, but we’ll get to that after we hear from the GM of the Jets who’s speaking with reporters right now. In regards to the trade deadline and the trades we made to made today, a little um kind of backstory, you know, leading up to it, um a lot of work goes into it. Never an easy day. a lot of tough decisions. Never easy moving on from any player, let alone guys like Sauce and Quinn who have been a part of this organization um and a part of this team this year. So essentially nothing in the opening statement that the Jets posted them. Let me read you some tweets. Why don’t we do that? That will probably be better to kind of recap everything. Uh let’s start with this from Muji. We got up today and we had these offers that we felt were too good for the team to pass up. Darren Muji on Sauce said they structured the contract in a way that would be tradable if that sort of opportunity came to pass. Darren Muji said Indianapolis kept getting richer and richer with their trade value for Sauce and they felt it was too good to pass up. Quote, “The goal is always to win. The focus is winning.” Said that remains the focus every week even now. Darren Muji won’t say if Quinn and Williams requested a trade. Darren Muji said the Jets uh Darren Muji on if the Jets are shifting their focus to 2026. Quote, “The focus is winning Sunday against the Browns and that’s the only focus.” Darren Muji declined to say if Quinnon requested a trade. That’s another one there. Um Darren Muji said being one and seven didn’t factor into the team’s decisions to make the trades today. That’s horshit. Said these discussions about potential trades start as far back as week four. Yeah, because you started 0 and4. Hey, of course it factored in. You’re one and seven. Wrong verb. Okay. Which one of us was a tyrant in a past life to deserve this karma? Man. Ah, this team, dude. Look, I think we’ve been a little light on energy today, though, right? Like I feel like we haven’t had uh people come in, scream and yell, be really passionate, have strong opinions. I think we’ve been missing that the first I don’t know four hours I’ve been doing the show today. So why don’t we try and get back to what this show is obviously all about. Does that work for you? Does it? Because it should. Because joining us right now is a man who needs no introduction. He’s a man who might be on drugs or aderall or Red Bull or Monster energy drinks or all the above. It’s time. Ifadin’tapp. [Music] Can you guys hear me? Oh my god. Yes. Let’s talk about the the trade uh the trade deadline. So, the sauce move, it was the worst move I’ve ever seen in my life. You know, why would you trade Sauce Garner? Like, come on. He’s a cornerstone. You paid him a $140 million extension. It’s a horrible move. This move just shows me Aaron Glenn is just the most clueless head coach I’ve ever seen. Like, I’m sorry. You do not trade Sarner. Like, I’m sorry. Like, I understand like you got two first round picks. I’m like, we need talented players in the building. I think S is the best corner in the league. I mean, yes, I understand like the last few years he’s fell off, but he’s a productive corner. He plays better than 90% of NFL corners. And I think the Colts got a good deal. You know, I think Sauce is a good corner. And then for Quinn, I understand why he made the move. Like he was lied to. He said Aaron Glenn was like, “Oh, this is this team isn’t going to rebuild. Oh, we’re going to win right away.” Like, and then with And then he’s like, “Oh.” And then we’re start one and seven, you know, Phil like I understand why Kang got tra cuz you know like the Rogers move. He’s like, “Oh.” And Glad’s like, “Oh, we’re here to win now.” And then he’s flip-flops, you know. was like, “Oh, sinking ships need time to rebuild.” You know, we’re not the same old jets. So, I understand, but like I just think the sauce move is dumb. Like, even I was shocked. I was like, “Are you really going to trade sauce ger?” Like, honestly. Well, they did trade him. I was shocked. I was like, “What? Like, are you crazy?” Like, I thought it was a fake one. I thought it was fake. And then I just saw it was like, “Are you crazy for training sauce?” Like, honestly. Now, Mad Max Vax, the jacket that you’re wearing, is that actual leopard fur? Uh, just just a coat. Uh, a sweatshirt I got from Marshalls. A little fleece I got at Marshalls like last year. It looks good on you. Thank you. Hey, Mad Max. Did you see the message I sent you on Discord today? Oh, what is it about? Uh, I have two tickets and parking for the Jets game on Sunday. It was donated by a listener. I know you said you wanted to go to the game after the Jets trades today. Do you not want to go anymore? I mean, I already I bought two tickets just today. Jake, I already bought two tickets. A just I just Jake, I bought two tickets like earlier today. I just bought them on I messaged you. I messaged you around 11:00 a.m. Why didn’t you Why didn’t you check your messages before you bought tickets? Oh, man. It was Stop checking your phone in the middle of a call. It ruins your video. Stay on Streamyard. Okay, so I mean I I I got a good deal, Jake. You know, I got I got a really good deal on Segeek for like $75 per person for two tickets. Well, guess what? $75 is not a good deal because you would have had to have paid $0 if you checked your messages. Sounds good, Jake. All right, Mad Max. Well, you have a great day. All right. Don’t make Sounds good. College ladies. Sounds good. All right. What are you guys’ opinion on me doing a backflip through this orange wall, Mad Max? Ladies and gentlemen, if you’re new to the show, welcome. Tom D in the raffle for five. Last chance to get in. We’re going to give away a Jets jersey. Not of a current player because why would we do such a thing? They won’t be here. But we got Nick Mangle, Derrell Rivas, Wayne Creette, Curtis Martin, Joe Cleco, and Joe Nameoth as your options. So, enter the raffle like Tom did with the super chat. Q didn’t want to be here and I love sauce, but see more value in stacking offensive talent with these picks for a rookie QB. Agree with you. I don’t feel confident in the staff, but hoping they improve. It’s all we can do now. Totally fair. But how we got here is because of Aaron Glenn and his inability to coach thus far. How we get out of this is him improving and then finding a quarterback. I don’t feel great about it. Ladies and gentlemen, S Gardner might not be a jet anymore, but he is a member of this guy’s favorite team. Hi, I’m Charles and I’m going to talk about Spiderman and movies and sports and video games and maybe hot chicks. Um, [Music] hello Mr. Asmin. Colts Nation, how we feeling, Sauce Gardener? This uh it was unexpected. Uh, I had no idea this was coming. I was congratulated earlier today by Sham BTW. Huge shout out to him. I had no idea Sauce was going to be traded at all this year, but hey, [ __ ] happens, I guess. Are you excited? Are you excited to watch a two-time first team all pro corner play for your team? Yes. Good. I’ve always liked him. I know his production has dipped down these past couple years, but I do know that he’s a very talented player, so we’ll see. You know, our defense has been pretty decent for the most part, but even though we did get our buzz kicked by the Steelers last week on Sunday, I should say. Hey, Charles, can you make a horse noise in honor of you being a Colts fan? No, I can’t do that. Give me a nay. Come on. I’m I’m giving you a horse noise. No. No. Come on. Yes. I’m not giving you a horse noise. Anyway, just wanted to I know uh Purple Belt Mike was teasing me saying I had something to do with it. I had nothing to do with it. I heard you called the Jets personally and said trade sauce to Indie. I don’t have the Jets number so I don’t know what the heck you guys are talking about. Um I know uh people is your favorite athlete besides Wait, Charles, is your favorite athlete besides Sauce Gardner now? Secretariat. Wait, what? I heard you’re a big Secretariat fan. I know who else Secretariat is. You won the Triple Crown in 76. Never heard of him. You guys You guys are right sometimes. Listen, um, all I’m going to say is I know you guys are going to hate to watch every other team this year, including the Packers, Colts, and Cowboys. Well, guess what? I have every reason to hate your team now. I hope you lose every game, Gorman. I want the highest pick possible. We’ll see what happens. All right, now give us a horse noise. Come on. Why? You can hate watch my team even more? I don’t think so, Bob. What do you mean? Jake, I know you supposed to be want to be my friend, but sometimes I think you just do things just to run a show. I am your friend, Charles, but I also am your friend who’s not going to let you get away with ditching the Jets after all this community has done for you. Well, there I’m not the only person who did. I mean, there was another guy in the chat that says, “I stopped being a Jets fan last year.” Yeah, but that doesn’t mean they’re actively rooting for the Colts. Doesn’t matter. It does matter. You could be disgusted with the Jets, but you can’t actively root for a different team. That’s the whole point. I could do whatever I want with my life. Jake, obviously you can, but that’s not the point of this. Charles, look, Jake, I’m going to stick with my guns here. Keep the Colts as my team this year. And maybe I might next year use my new team permanently. I might, but who knows, Jake? What do you mean who knows? Here, Charles. Can I give you some inspiration? I’m a crazy person, Jake. I know you’re insane. You’re nuts. Here, why don’t we do this, Charles? All right. You tell me if you could hear this. All right. A little inspiration. I can’t make that noise. D. I’m going to get going now. I’m going to watch some TV. Have a great day. [Applause] Hey, you’ll never get my chicken soup recipe. I need some of it. Hey Charles, who is that lovely lady? This way, Charles. Thank you, Charles. I guess Charles is off his meds cuz last time he called in, he said he wasn’t on his meds, which was why he made the poor judgment of being a Colts fan. But today he called in and he was all about being a Colts fan. Harvey Buchard is in the asmaniac raffle for fun. I got gas right now. Tom D says, “Charles, your mother’s chicken soup is overrated. Traitor.” Well done, Tom. All right. I went to this guy. I think he might have been the first call today and his potty mouth was so vulgar. We had to remove him. Maybe he’s calmed down in the uh He just dropped off the line. Rob, I was about to go to your call. Oh, you’re not even there. All right, Chuck Wagon, close us out. Hello, Chuck. Hey, Jake. Listen, um, couple of things. One, it’s kind of funny that the line moved for uh, the Browns game because the Jets were initially one and a half point favorites. Now they’re two and a half point dogs uh, after those trades. But I didn’t bet on that. I bet on the under. So, doesn’t really matter who wins. Um, for everybody who’s saying that Mitchell was a good pickup as a wide receiver, um, I really would like to know if they checked his stats because he only has 32 career catches and he has three fumbles. So almost 10% of his catches he’s fumbling. So yeah, good job. Um, can’t say much. Um, I agree with you, Jake. Um, I thought that once I heard about these trades that yes, I thought that Glenn can do no wrong this year. Um, about him coming back for 26 is most likely going to happen. I have a feeling they’ll probably use their two picks in the draft and go offense offense. Um, who knows? Um, I did look up the Lions when they started 010 and one in 2021. I went to see if they made any like fire sale trades or anything like that in the deadline. They made no trades. No, of course not. Because they had no talent, right? Because they had no talent when when uh Campbell and uh Brad Holmes, their GM, took over. They had no talent. They had two total Pro Bowlers on their roster when they got there. One was Goff, the other was Hawinson. They traded Hawinson, but they didn’t need to do this because they didn’t have the talent the Jets had that Aaron Glenn and company inherited. That’s been my point from the beginning. Stop comparing the Jets to the 21 Lions. It’s not the same thing. It never will be the same thing. No, but um I mean I will push back a little bit on this, Jake, in 2026 because again, I do believe he’ll be back for next season. If he starts 0 and6, he’s gone. No, I don’t know. I’m sorry. He He He will not He will not last the year. If they go 0 and6, 0 and7, he should be, but I don’t think so. I think he probably will get the year and they finish with three wins. Maybe it’s a conversation, but I mean I I don’t know about that. Yeah. Um he better you better hope he improves because I’m going to be sitting here miserable just like you are if this team continues to suck next year. And the, “Oh, we have a rookie quarterback at each time.” Shouldn’t be a legit excuse. You chose to go in this direction by tearing down the roster. Now, you got to show improvement. And you don’t need a great quarterback to necessarily look confident. We’ve seen teams in the league. Mike Tomlin every year has never had good quarterback play since Big Ben retired. He wins every year. Every year. Great coach. He’s a great coach. Um, and I know I think it was a week ago, almost two weeks ago, I said just for shits and giggles, over under two and a half trades um by the dead of before the deadline. You said under, I said over, but we were both wrong. It was only three. I said four, you said I think two. Um, so we were right in the middle of that. And I hearing that um the ch the Chiefs were going to give a fourthrounder for Bree, but the Jets um were hard set on the third. I I really don’t understand why you’re hard set on just one round, especially when someone is unhappy as Bree. But just like in any sport, if the Jets do uh extend Breece and resign him and make him top three running back, uh moneywise, money will solve the problem. He’ll be making new treats saying he loves New York and this and that. If we overpay, you overpay on a player, he will change his tune just like that. I don’t think they’re going to pay him though, Chuck. I I don’t think so. I think he’s gone at the end of the year now. Maybe he’s so good the next nine weeks it changes. I I don’t know. Winning cures all. Like if if the Jets actually somehow start winning some games here in the second half and Bree is a big part of it and they want to keep them, maybe he would want to stick around because it is about money. But I’m not so sure if if they had a fourth from Kansas City for Bree after what they did with S and Quinnon, they should have traded them because my thought process of not trading Breece was like I I want to win games here, man. Because I thought Aaron Glenn had to show us, you know, some competency to definitely be back. But he’s back now no matter what. So what do I care? Get me the fourth for Breece. He’s not going anywhere. Iron can lose every game by 30 points these next nine weeks. It will not matter. He’s back. So I I don’t care anymore. Honestly, that’s my big thing. Like I didn’t want them to be able to use the excuse, well, we traded away our players. I wanted them to keep everyone because I didn’t want them to get the opportunity to do this. They I don’t think they deserve the opportunity to do what they did today. But what he felt differently, they’ve done it now, so I don’t care. Now they’re going to get nothing for Bree Hall. The comp pick they’re going to get, they’re not even going to get a comp pick. They’re going to spend money in free agency. They might be able to get a sixth or a seventh compensatory pick. They’re not getting If Kansas City offered you a four, I take it. They didn’t take it. I want to hear a little bit more from Muji here now that I know that the screen sharing uh has worked where you guys could hear sound because I was able to play the horse sound effects for Gorman. I’m gonna play a little Muji and then Rob from Glenhead called back in. So assuming he doesn’t sound like a sailor again, we could take a couple of his calls here uh or his last call here and then we’ll get to the raffle. So let me get to though the presser sound we have here. This is all from SNY Jets to the trade deadline and the trades you made to made in the chat. Let me know. Make sure you guys can hear this before I start rolling the clips today. A little um kind of backstory, you know, leading up to it. Um, give me a thumbs up in the chat if you hear into it. Never an easy day. A lot of tough decisions. Never easy moving on from any player, let alone guys like Sauce and Quinn who have been a part of this organization um and a part of this team this year. And but we put a lot of effort leading up into this day. We meet weekly as a staff to discuss our roster and the potential trade values of our players. And we do this weekly um as we go through the season leading up to it. So we have these these values kind of set and these comps discussed as we go through the es and flows of the season. So when you get to this trade deadline, you um kind of have your set values that might not be um you know more I’m losing track. Sorry, it’s been a long day, but you’re you’re set on what these values are really what what they’re really worth in these players and what you might be willing to do to part ways with them. and we got to today and had uh these offers that we just felt were too good for the the team and we made that withh and Quinn and with that I’ll open up to any questions. Beautiful. Beautiful. Here we go. More from Muji. The the natural question with S is you know less than four months ago you guys made a pretty substantial commitment to him with the contract. what changed between then and now that we’re here and you’re you’re trading him? Yeah, I understand the question and I’ll start by saying just like this process leading up to the trade deadline, the process for the doing that contract is a very detailed one where credit to Nick Sabella, we had a lot of discussion going through that contract process and some of the details we had to have in that contract because you never know how the future is going to unfold and we always wanted to be in a position to potentially trade these contracts and credit to Nick Sabella. He did a great job on that contract. Made that contract still a tradable contract for the case that you get into a situation where the value you think is just too good to pass up. And uh that happened to be the case here. Value too good to pass up. I I get it. You got a lot for him, but you’re also in a spot where you had to trade them because you’re one and seven. That’s the whole thing. You shouldn’t be one and seven. of the cults talks like how how how long have you been talking to them? Did you contact them? How how did it all materialize? Yeah, Rich, good good question. So throughout the year, I have a lot of discussions uh around the league with different GMs and a lot of discussions with players and um you um they you never know how they’re going to materialize, but it was never something again like you hear them and you’re like, “Ah, I probably wouldn’t do that.” But we have our set values. We keep all those conversations private. And when it came down to the last few days, Indianapolis um kept getting richer and richer with their value and eventually, like I said, um was was too good to pass up. But there’s I have a lot of conversations throughout the course of the year with with different GMs and this one materialized. I mean, clearly called them. I mean, we we all could see that. Uh Muji, we got more clips to get to here. Muji asked about the message to Jet fans either to the team or the fans of you know you obviously got a lot of trade draft pick value but you did just trade away two of your best players. So curious like what would your message to be about like what the goal is for the for the Jets right now? Yeah, I understand the question. The goal is always to win. Look, these coaches and players work too hard every day all day with the goal of winning on Sunday and that never changes because that’s what the the fans deserve. That’s what the players deserve. That’s what the coaches deserve and that and that never changes. I understand uh the trade deadline and different moving parts but the the goal is to always win on on Sunday and that’s what we work to do all week and and that’s and that’s that’s how it is. What would your the problem is you had to trade these guys because you didn’t win enough and this was your only counter your only pivot. There’s not a one in 17 that’s blowing it up and starting over. It’s now become that because Aaron Glenn and you have done a bad job and completely misvaluated the roster. The record being one and seven, you know, with the with the way the season’s going, how much did that factor into today? Now, I like I said, we have these processes in place to have these discussions throughout the season when we start having those discussions week four, and we’re talking about a lot of things in those discussions with players and what the roster could look like and and contracts and values. It started week four because you were 0 and four. You were the only team in the NFL that had a win until last week. And compensation and there’s a ton of things that go into it, but we’re very consistent throughout our process regardless of of of the record. How much the record being I mean, I see this comment from JD. Can’t evaluate the roster fully till you coach them. Then don’t extend players and don’t tell us that you’re going to get the most out of players with your coaching. Aaron Glenn said, “It’s coaching, man. It’s coaching. Justin Fields never been coached properly. We’re going to let him play quarterback. You don’t get to use that excuse. They’ve done a bad job here. They got great returns for two excellent players. No one’s disputing that. But now they have Carb Blanch to have job security for two more years based on what? I don’t think Muji’s done bad with the trades. His trades in season have all been good. The picks for uh uh Brownley worth it. The picks they gave up to get Briggs and to get Harrison Phillips worth it. This is a whole different level though. This is a fullon we’re tearing it down at the studs now and they didn’t even do that necessarily properly because they didn’t trade breeze today for a fourth round pick that was reportedly on the table. All we can do is hope Aaron Glenn improves man because none of this matters. We all love these picks. It will not matter. They will not win anything with this coach if he doesn’t get better and he’s not going anywhere now. So forget the Mike McCarthy talk or getting a real offensive coach to coach up Fernando Mendoza or Dante Moore or whoever. The big takeaway from today, whether you agree with the decisions of now committed to Aaron Glenn, they being the Johnson family, committed to Aaron Glenn for all of this year, all of next year, and probably all of 2027. And if they don’t make the playoffs after the 27 season, then they’ll be fired. But they’re getting a second year, and they’re going to get a third year because the third year is going to be we have our quarterback. We went through the growing pains in 2026 with him. 2027, the offseason. We have three first round picks. We’ll solidify our team. Quarterback takes the leap in year two and we’re going to make the playoffs in year three. That’s where this is headed. They’ve now given themselves two additional years when I think if this was trending the way it was trending till they finally won a game. You can make a strong case that they should have got over it. They should have been one and done. Jquest says, “Dude, get over it.” I will not, Jquest, because I’m reacting to one of the craziest days in the history of the franchise and I’m going to give you my unfiltered opinion. If you don’t like it, you could leave. No one’s forcing you to watch the show. I’ve been live for four and a half hours. You could check in and out. That’s fine. But no, I will not get over it when they just traded away Sauce Gardner and G and uh excuse me, Sgardner and Quinn Williams today. I will not just get over that. Like, no. All right. That’s not how this works. You’ll just get over that. This is a pretty big deal. But you love Aaron Glenn. Oh, I love Aaron Glenn. You a week ago were like, I’m a Glenn guy and even I have some doubts right now. who called in and said that on this show. So, what’s changed? They beat the Bengals who can’t stop anyone and now we’re just now we’ve guaranteed them two more years because that’s what they did, JayQuest. So, you tell me. Get over it. No, I will not get over it. I make a living talking about this team. It’s one of the biggest days that the Jets have had in in their franchise’s history. You never see player movement at the deadline like this. And they traded away two cornerstones. So, no, I’m not going to get over it. Sorry, man. I can’t get over it. I live and die with this team for better or worse. One last call and then we’ll do a raffle for a Jets legend. Rob the Jet fan. Rob, hello. Hey, Jake. Yeah, I’m sorry I lost my craft before, but I I’m just really pissed, Jake. What I see is going on. And the thing that that bugs me the most, Jake, is that we’re stuck with this regime for the next two or three years. No matter what happens, it’s not going to matter if we lose the rest of the games by 40 50 points. Uh we’re we’re stuck with these jerkoffs and I don’t trust them picking players. Everyone’s the Neils and the Peter Castro are all happy and stuff. But the thing that they don’t realize, uh Jake is prior put some nuance to what’s going on. Quinnon and uh Sauce when Salah was there were all pros. Those coaches leave for whatever all the reasons we already know and they start going uh downhill. So there was nuance there. You had crap coach trying to get these guys to play better. And you know what? It wasn’t working because the coaches suck. Now this year you have this idiot Glenn and Muji and the same crap is happening and everyone’s confident because they made all these trades. You still have to pick the players. It’s not that easy to pick all these players and you’re going to hit on every guy. So you know what? Like you said, this is going down to the studs now, Jake. So you know what? If we don’t pick these number ones and number TWS and hit on most of them, we’re going to be a crap team for the next maybe three or four years. And you know what? We have to sit with these players. We have to sit with these coaching staff. All of this crap. And you know what? Woody should have went to the UK and stayed there. I I agree with you. Chris Johnson should be running this team because this guy is letting this uh Glenn rape this team of players who don’t even want to play for the team anymore. They want to leave the Lazards, the Adams, the Clemens, the Cisco. It’s amazing how these guys are still on the team. But you know what? Our good players, they rape and they take off. Okay, we got good value for Quinnon. I get it. He didn’t want to be here anymore. I can live with him leaving. It hurts, but I can live with him leaving. But I don’t believe the sauce thing, Jake. I I still think that Sauce is a really good corner. Okay, he doesn’t get a million interceptions. He was never that type of corner. But you know what? Under Salah, he was all pro two years in a row. They wouldn’t be paying all this picks and stuff and giving a player in the deal that these guys sucked, right, Jake? No, I agree, Rob. The the problem is it got so bad that this was their escape lever they could pull cuz now they’ve given themselves job security by doing this. Glenn’s not getting fired. Muji’s not getting fired. They now have all these picks to point to. And Joe Douglas did some of this too, but at least it made sense logically because he took over a terrible team. Like Joe Douglas got here in June of 2019 after McCain had already spent all the money and made the draft picks for that team in 2019. They finished seven and nine after a one and seven start. So he tore it down over the course of 2019 and 2020 they bottomed out which was the direction they chose to go in which was right. You knew you were gonna have a new coach. Problem is Glenn’s here said they were going to win overhyped his ability to coach these guys. now is trading some of the guys that he wanted here and now we have to trust that they have a a new plan that’s going to work. Like they shouldn’t get the opportunity to do this plan after they were so incompetent with the first plan. Paul says, “How do you get job security by doing a lousy job?” “By doing what they did today.” Right? This team wasn’t supposed to be one and seven. Where are all the people that called the show who said, “I was too negative when I had the Jets winning four games this year.” I listened to you. bumped it to seven. Then AVT got hurt the Tuesday before week one went down to six. And I probably was way too generous with that. This wasn’t the plan. They’re bad because their coach has been bad. They’re bad because they misealuated the their own roster. They brought back players that should not have been brought back. We all knew that Xavier Gibson should have been on the team. It cost them a game. Clemens being here with no edge depth behind them. They got job security because they turned their good players that they had at their disposal that they inherited. And guess what? They turned those uh good players into a lot of draft capital. So now they could sell the owner on look at our war chest of assets. Great. All we could hope is that Aaron Glenn improves because he’s going nowhere now. I don’t know how many times I could say that. I’m sure I’m gonna get the fire Glenn calls all throughout the remaining uh nine games and I’m gonna tell you he’s not going anywhere. He’s not. They could lose their next nine games that they have left and finish one and 16. He will not be fired. He has now built in an escape plan to being god awful at his job this year. That’s what he’s done. Hopefully he’s not god awful at his job. But eight games in, you know, the NY Jet Florida Ted who wouldn’t say Glenn’s doing a bad job, right? couldn’t get yes or no question, Ted. Is Aaron Glenn doing a good job? I can’t say. Okay. He’s done a terrible job and hopefully he does a way better job in the second half, but if he doesn’t, it doesn’t matter because he’s given himself a built-in excuse by making these trades. Tyrone says, “What a crazy day. What do I do with my gardener shirt?” I don’t know, man. What do I do with all this? Huh? I mean, some of these like sauce, he ain’t going to be here. Reese, he’s not going to be here. Come on. The only guy who will be here. Him and JJ, I hope. Oh, sauce jersey. Nope, don’t need that. Oh, this uh gardener Wilson shirt. Nah, don’t need that. Oh, this uh passing the torch shirt. Nah, we’re good. Oh, this uh other sauce jersey. We don’t need that. I mean, there’s two jerseys that I could proud proudly wear that are active players. Germaine Johnson and Garrett Wilson. That’s it. That’s it. That’s where we’re at. Sucks. We’re back to rebuilding. Tear it down. We have to get our guys in here. No, you you chose to keep these guys and you couldn’t win with them because you were bad and now this is your pivot to buy yourself more time. It’s lame. Like anyone with a brain can see through it. Hopefully they picked the right quarterback in Glenn and Proves because that’s the only way they get out of this mess. Nick Shine says Muji drew his line and made them pay. It’s a great sign to have a GM that doesn’t get taken advantage of. Nick, he got a fourth round pick on the table for Brace. He turned it down. Are they keeping Brace Hall? If they don’t end up keeping Bree Hall, that’s a mistake. That’s a mistake. He should have traded Bree. Also, uh Quincy wanted to be traded, too. You couldn’t get anyone to give you something for Quincy. Zahara says, “No sense trading for picks. Muji does not know how to pick.” I mean, look, the the the the draft is not terrible, which gives you a little hope, but if your head coach and your coaching staff remains this bad, we’ve seen the Jets have talented teams that don’t win the last three years. Because if you screw up quarterback or you don’t have the right head coach, you can’t overcome it. I don’t care how good your roster is. You’re hoping you draft players as good as what Sauce and Quinn have been. Can they franchise Bree? They’re not going to franchise Bree Hall and pay him $16 million on the cap. They won’t do it. Not going to happen. It’s the whole thing just sucks. But we’ll be locked in on the couch on Sunday. I know I will be. And I I’m rooting for a win. I am Edward Ze. I think I missed his super chat earlier. We now have five first round picks and three second round picks the next two years. I’m aware of what they have. Do we have a head coach? Do we have a quarterback? If we’re saying no at this time next year, it doesn’t matter how many picks they have going forward. Yo, Holmes, real fans understand what this is. I hug AG every day. There were a lot of hugs today at One Jet Stra. I hug him every day. I hug him every day. Unreal. All right, who’s ready for a raffle? Ladies and gentlemen, let’s give someone a chance to get a Jets jersey. Not from someone currently on the team because why would we do that? Ladies and gentlemen, the Wheel of Champions. Right now, it’s time to announce the winners of the weekly Asaniac Raffle. Let’s spin the Jake Asmin show wheel of champions and find out which Asmaniac is winning an epic prize. Here we go again. Thanks to everyone who tuned in here. We were live for 4 hours and 37 minutes so far. are in black gypsy, you sicko. He waited till the very end to enter the raffle. He always does. He is in for one. All right. Uh Spencer Green, can you Spencer, stop it. Let’s get you in for two here. Did I miss anyone else who’s trying to pull this at the end? Let’s see. Harvey wants to know where the tailgate is going to be. I have no idea, Harvey. I’m not going to the game Sunday. I recommend you go to either L5, Gotham City Crew, or Tailgate Joe. All three do a phenomenal job for Jet fans. Spencer Green, let’s see, Stevens, Glenn, Brownley, Glenn, Membu, Glenn, Mason Taylor, Glenn, AZ Glenn, Malachi, Mora, Glenn. All are good. Sorry you didn’t dismiss Clemens or Gibson, who aren’t his guys. They cost him games. How about Justin Fields, Spencer? Justin Fields. How about the Steve Wils hire? Your thoughts? How about no depth on your defensive line? I mean, come on. Anyway, whatever. I don’t have time for your nonsense. Ladies and gentlemen, good luck to everyone. If you win, please email me asminjake atgmail your name, the player you want the jersey in, size, most importantly, your address. The winner is Ablav, you missed it. Big fella, you missed it. You just missed it. Muji cooks. Big fella is a Darren Muji stand. Ablab, congratulations. He is our raffle winner. Appreciate everyone who tuned in. Uh, I’m about to wrap up here an over seven hour day of broadcasting. So, thanks to everyone who listened on the radio today when I filled in for Bart Scott. Thank you to everyone who tuned in. Please hit the like button and subscribe to the channel if you’re new around here. We’re live usually 4 hours a day. 1 at 10:00 a.m. and then again at 400 p.m. Eastern every day. We’ll be back tomorrow cuz oh boy, do we have a ton to certainly talk about. You might have heard the Jets made some headlines today with some moves. We’ll have more reaction tomorrow. Break it all down. The good, the bad, reasons to be excited, reasons to think this is bad. Plenty more reaction to go. So, I look forward to that tomorrow. again. 10:00 a.m. tomorrow is the plan. We will be live. So, I’ll talk to you guys then. Until then, though, enjoy the rest of your evening. Go Jets. And I leave you with a laugh because if we don’t laugh, we will cry. My fellow New York Jets fans, is about time I come and tell you, consider the fact that the New York Jets continue to give us the same abominable product year in and year out. I’m officially boycotting this [ __ ] franchise. I have chosen to adopt the Indianapolis Colts as my team this year because they’re playing very good football. They’re listening to their coach that I’m making stupid decision. There are certain fans of mine that would call me a traitor, but guess what? I don’t care. I’m a grown ass man. For anyone, including my my friend Jake Asmin, tough titties. Anyways, hope you guys have a great day and I’ll see you guys next time. You sons of [ __ ] I got a problem with my prepaid card and I’m trying to fix it. There there’s some bogus charge on my card and I don’t like the sign of that. Hey Beast, which tank top do you like? Uh, I’m not interested in tank tops. Those are for girls. What the hell is wrong with you? Give me someone American I can speak to. Unless you get the account, I won’t be able Give me someone American I could talk to. Why you so upset? I do apologize. I already gave you the account number. Why are you sitting here bsing me? Well, you’re sitting there with your hand up your ass. Hello. I had a problem fighting with one of the idiots on the phone. Couldn’t speak one blit word of English. What did they charge you? $9.99. So, this is all over $10. What’s your Venmo, Beast? You have a Venbo? I’ll give you $10 right now to make your hole. I’m pulling it up right now. Jason-Storm-31. You’re down $9.99. Yes. Here you go, buddy. You You’ve been made whole. New password, and I can’t even get one. I I don’t even know a password. I’m I’m trying something here. Gator says, “Was Beast the best choice as your tech support engineer?” I still believe in him, Gator. Absolutely. I tried Roni 14. Doesn’t want to work. Minimize eight characters, maximum 20. 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37 comments
Aaron Glenn isn't the GM of the jets. Mougey is. Idk where you're getting that from
Its amazing how some of you are not thrilled about this move .Sauce has 2 fucking picks in his career and cant tackle for shit . Quinnen is soft also and for a fat f UK hes invisible often . also and they are so over paid . Great players in next 2 years draft classes … and we freed up a shit ton of cap space .. THIS IS A TURNING POINT FOR US FINALLY !! Diehard since 1982 … BE ECSTATIC CAUSE I AM . MARK MY WORDS
And a good receiver prospect in sauce deal .he ll do good for us too… amd signing him which is considered a fair salary which cracks me up … we can still win with out these 2 OK PLAYERS
Also these NFL “insiders” can go jump in a lake, none had these deals as a rumor. All these insiders do is report on stuff from the players agents for access, no real reporting at all.
if ANY quatreback is going to save this team it will be a Manning
Breece Hall wants no part of this bum organization
Jake .sorry i missed the show crazy busy with work …. But let me give you a differnt thought process.. Guess what , YES YOU CAN GET RID OF THIS COACH AND REGIME … IMAGINE WITH ALL THOSE PICKS AND CAP SPACE IMAGINE THE REGIMES YOU COULD ATTRACT .. Quinnen was so over rated and sauce had 2 fricken picks in HIS CAREER AND DOESNT/CANT TACKLE …
Best thing that ever happened to you guys, it’s essentially the same as what the 2021 Detroit Lions did, buy-in is a hell of a drug.
The Colts made an offer the Jets couldnt refuse. Wouldnt you take it. Its a no brainer. Colts got fleeced
2 1st rounders for Sauce? Yeah I’m okay with that. Sauce is good but he’s not the best CB in the league. He was being paid like he was though. He’s soft unfortunately and it didn’t work out here.
There have been 90 rebuilds !!
Glenn isn’t competent to drive a cab!!
Jake, you will be eligible for social security by the time the Jets may contend for the playoffs!
They are unwatchable !!!
Jake you are 100 percent right !!
bunch of crybabies
Fantasy land ! They just flushed the next three years down the toilet for job security for incompetent jackasses !
His teammates did not make him a capitan of the defense what do you not SEE
All Glenn does is lie!!!
They were hoping the first round picks would be in 2030 so they can stink the place up for five years!!!
By signing Gardner, you got 2 first and a player. If Gardner was not signed you wasn't going to get 2 first round picks.
The defense sucked last year.
Stop the b.s. The Jets with Rodgers and the same defense went 5-12
Have some of you been watching a different team than I have? We haven't done shyt with these guys. Y'all act like we are a couple of decent players away from being a good team. This team needs an infusion of serious talent and a lot of it.
Jets SB 2028
the team did a number on these kids. go win boys!
2 1st and 2nd round picks 2026. 3 first rounds and 2 second rounds 2027. We are good. Stop stressing it out…
ARCHIE MANNING 2027
When AG said Sauce was a foundational player, he wasn't kidding.
If Breece is disgruntled…should we keep him?
AG has never been an HC, but he’s been a scout and hopefully he shines when turning this haul of picks into cornerstone pieces for this team. #JetUp!✈️
I played football SAUCE wasn’t all that he was average to me so I’m not surprised at this trade at all
Glenn will be fine and I’m sticking with him period
Remember when the Jets traded Revis and used a first round pick on Dee Milner to replace him? This franchise that I’ve loved and supported since 1995 has officially told the fans they’re content with sucking for the next two years. AG/Moogey are going to tear this franchise down to the studs and will be gone when they’re halfway through a 5 year rebuild.
This regime said that this was a "win now" plan and that Justin Fields was going to be coached up correctly and shine. Now, it's a "fire sale". I have "zero" confidence in this regime to make the right selections with these picks and turn this team into a winning franchise. Now, they're basically guaranteed three years. Thanks again, Woody. Great job, as usual.
At this point I'm just so done with this team!! We had three to 4 studs traded away for what? New guys? They couldn't get it done with a star filled team on both sides of the ball now they gon trade away the best we have SMFH!!! Looks like the coaches along with the org is trying save there own asses they're the ones that need to be traded!!
Alot of 1st Rd picks now they got to get it right