Reacting to Paul Skenes Comments, Naylor Turning Down Pirates & Schwarber Rumors

Reacting to Paul Skenes Comments, Naylor Turning Down Pirates & Schwarber Rumors

You have two things at play here and we’re going to cover both of them. One is an offer reported to Josh Naylor that did not get the job done but looked substantial if you believe it. The other portion is that little article that popped up there with an anonymous teammate of Paul Sche saying how much he can’t wait to be a Yankee. So let’s start there because they’re both tied to each other since some of the other reports say that the Pirates are trying to really build around Paul skins. like they’re changed, right? Like being in that relationship where they keep saying, “I’ve changed.” They claim to be changed. So, first off, let’s get skins talking to Dan Patrick on his show. Yeah. I mean, I was frustrated for a couple hours and then um and then, you know, kind of got over it and talked to the media later that night. Um it, you know, it is what it is. There’s stuff that’s going to come out um you know, good and bad. It’s, you know, obviously it’s it’s not true. I think um the hardest part of leaving Air Force for me was, you know, we had just won a a conference championship, the first one in in uh the school’s history. Um and you know, didn’t and and if we had built that um and it felt like there there was unfinished, you know, work that that needed to be done. So that’s how it feels right now. Uh we’re, you know, I won the we won the national championship or the the conference championship at Air Force. Um that’s that’s what is on the horizon for us. We just have to do it. And leaving before that would, you know, leave a bad taste in my mouth because there wasn’t, you know, there was work to be done that we didn’t do. H what do you think of the answer there? There’s one major difference. Air Force versus the Pirates. The Pirates are playing in the major leagues. Air Force is is a great school and a great I love the I love the military. I love all that but they’re not playing in the major leagues. The best players are the best. They’re in the conference. And listen, congratulations to Paul Ske, but he went to LSU to get paid and to win a national championship, which he did, right, with Dylan Cruz and that whole crew. Now guess what? You’re with the Pirates. They’re not winning anytime soon. Don’t say they’re trying. Oh, we tried on Josh White because Ben Verlander reported it, right? right? Like, oh, Ben Verlin, who works for the major leagues baseball, tried, reported it. Like, okay, so cool. But they were like $15 million off from Naylor. Guess what? He was in a place he liked. They’re better team. They have a chance to compete. He’s not going to Pittsburgh. You have to overpay. Thank you. You have to overpay to get people to come to Pittsburgh because they don’t believe it. They think you’re full of crap. So then, guess what? Yeah. Eventually, it’s going to happen to him. And he he can say, “I’m going to feel like something’s unfinished in Pittsburgh.” That’s cool, fine, and dandy. But at the end of the day, they’re going to trade you because they can get four or five pieces back. And it’s not going to matter. You can say, “I want to stay. I want to stay.” Unless you’re buying Bucks and have a full no trade, sign an extension. You ain’t staying, Paul. And I’m sorry, Pirates fans, because I think you guys deserve better. But you ain’t staying because they’re going to ship you out. Are we about to play a game this off season where the Pirates make BS offers to players that fall short? Look at Tercoel. Ter Scooble. They’re talking about trading TKO. Paul Skooel the two two of the best I don’t know three two of the if not the two best pitchers in the world right now in baseball right both want saw youngs both talking about being traded why why this the base everything I see in baseball is doing great attendance is up viewership’s up revenue’s up but every team is losing money explain that to me Scott because I can’t figure it out well the Pirates are making money that’s a fact every team is making money. If they weren’t making, if these are all businessmen, every owner is a businessman, business person, woman, man, whatever they are, whoever owns the teams are business people. Okay? These business people are know how to make money. If you’re not making money, you sell the team because you know what? You can make your money that way. And you say, “Yeah, it’s someone else’s problem.” Otherwise, if you’re Bob Nutting, if you’re the the what’s Mom Dick Mford in Colorado, if you’re not making money, you sell the team and you take your franchise value that you made all this money on and you take it, you cash it in and you put that into something else to try to make money. Yeah. The most So, don’t give me the we’re losing money and we can’t afford these players because you can’t. Times are hard. But in Ski’s case, I think we have a different topic here. It’s not about signing skins. It’s about skins actually wanting to stay there. Right now, if you’re Paul Ske, there aren’t many numbers that you’re saying yes to. If you want to look over to I mean, I know he’s a different position, Mike Trout, and say, “Okay, I might be one of the best pitchers of this generation, right? But am I about to sign with a team that I’ll never really get much success with?” No, you’re not. And they’re not going to make enough of an offer. They’re not going to make enough of an offer that would give them There’s just There’s to me there’s no number that’s going to come close. And we might even hear we might even hear a number. Oh, you know, the Pirates offered Paul Ski this or that. Like to me, until the Pirates make an offer that is even equal to what somebody would get somewhere else, it’s not even a blip on my radar. Like the Rays started doing that for years. They were making offers that were equal to what guys were going to get at other places. And I wouldn’t have believed it had I not heard it from the people that signed at other places, teammates of mine. And so, like, hey, you know what? They were definitely trying. It didn’t happen, you know, but to be 15 million under and then to have a pro have a superstar in Paul skins, you know, not being able to say definitively that he can that he can stay in Pittsburgh for the rest of his career is a disservice to the Pittsburgh fans and to his career. 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After your purchase, they’ll ask you where you heard about them. Please support the show and tell them Foul Territory sent you. You had Jeff Passen in his notes column reporting that yeah, they were willing to sign Naylor for more than twice the franchise previous record free agent deal which currently stands at $39 million before Naylor said, “Yeah, no thanks. You’re the Pirates and I’m ad living now on this part. You’re the Pirates and you didn’t pay as much as Seattle would.” Uh the other part that passing ads in his column is Pittsburgh is known to have interest in please hold your laughs. Please hold your laughs. A murderer. Kyle Schwarber. You think Kyle Schwarber is going to sign with the Pirates to finish up his career? Okay, you want to you want to sign Kyle Schwarber, you better sign about three or four other dudes first before you get to Kyle Schwarber because he’s not he’s looking to win. He’s not signing there. If they if they went out and signed Tucker, I don’t know who the hell else whoever else is a free a I don’t know. Name the four best free agents. They name they signed the best four free agents. You pair them with skins and some of the other pieces they have. Pete Alonzo. Huh? Breman, Alonzo, Tucker, and then Schwarber’s boom. Now you Now you’re talking about a team that might be able to do some stuff. Fine. I’m in because you’re off. He’s not signing unless by the way. Sorry, I had to get that was Cora. He’s His phone died, so he’s calling back. Of course. But you got to be kidding me. Kyle Schwarber is going to sign with the Pirates. How much money would it take Kyle Schwarber to be offered from the Pirates over anyone else’s offer for him to sign there? I don’t know if there’s a number. He’s super rich. He want He He likes to win. He wants to finish winning. Yeah, but I mean you if you if someone offers him four years 150 and the Pirates come in and say five years 250. Fine. There’s your number. $100 million. I’d probably do that one. Okay. I mean it ain’t going to happen. But I’m just saying Kyle would probably say, “Hey, can we use that to spend money on anybody else ever?” True. Maybe it’s just such a joke to think that he would actually consider that franchise right now with the way that they’ve treated their team and free agency. Tell me I’m wrong. Please tell me I’m wrong. That Kyle Schwarber is going to get an offer from Pittsburgh that’s similar to another offer and say, “Yep, going in there.” I can’t. The baseball fan in me, the heart of hearts, knowing different pirate fans, they want that. Yes, they want it. And it’s like people are going to say, “Well, what about the like Jason Worth with the Nationals? Like he signed there. Jason Worth got offered 50 I think it was 52 million more than the next highest offer that he received. Like we’re not we’re not talking about it’s not the same. It’s not apples to apples. Like the Pirates won’t go to where Kyle Schwarber even will get. And I hope I get to eat all my words that I’m saying here. I hope I hope we get to play this all back and Pirate fans can laugh at us and look at us now because they do have a rotation with some offense. Could be a great team. Do I believe they’ll I want the Pirates to be good because I want all the teams to try and I want fans to be rewarded for their loyalty and there are some awesome Pittsburgh fans. It’s one of the best ballparks. It’s one of the coolest stadiums you could ever go to and there are some diehard It’s the same as Oakland, right? Like for a year as Oakland, people were like, “Oh, there’s no fans.” Well, there was like about 10 to 12,000 Oakland fans that were at every game and they were unbelievable. I mean, they were loud as hell and there was like none of them there. I mean, there was like 10,000 people there. Yeah. And it was loud as hell. The same in Pittsburgh. There’s like your core base and they should be rewarded for it. Look at the Steelers. The Steelers are packed all the time, right? Because they try and win every year. It’s not about that. Pittsburgh has a great fan base. They have a great ballpark, but it’s about the fact that I feel sorry for the fact that they haven’t had a winning team in a long time. Yeah. And you know, even in this report too from passing like they might let Connor Griffin win a spot. He’s one of the top uh prospects in the sport, top from Baseball America right now. He’s 19 years old. Is he the savior yet? I mean, it’s early. It’s awesome that they’ll let him compete. I’m all about it, right? And they do have some exciting young players and I do think they’ll sign someone, but they’ll probably end up signing someone more in like the 30 something million, 40, 50, right? like something much more mid-range and say, “Hey, we tried for the big They’re going to sign a couple of mid, yes, mid- free agents and say, “Hey, look guys, we’re really trying and we tried to play in the big boy pool, but it didn’t work out.” It it’s we hear this from numerous teams at this point. I just don’t think we can forget the track record for a long period of time now. They’ve had other teams like, I don’t know, the one coming into this season had some pretty good-looking pitchers and they completely neglected the free agent market to help the offense. The offense was terrible.

The crew reacts to Paul Skenes’ comments on The Dan Patrick Show after a viral rumor claimed he “couldn’t wait to be a Yankee.” They break down why his response matters, how it connects to the Pirates’ reported low offer to Josh Naylor, and whether Pittsburgh is truly building around their young ace. Plus, they examine Jeff Passan’s notes on the Pirates’ offseason approach, why top free agents like Kyle Schwarber won’t consider Pittsburgh without a massive overpay, and what this all means for the team’s long-term competitiveness.

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