POSTGAME: Arizona Cardinals QUIT In Embarrassing No-Effort Loss Against San Francisco 49ers

POSTGAME: Arizona Cardinals QUIT In Embarrassing No-Effort Loss Against San Francisco 49ers

Another divisional loss in which the Arizona Cardinals give up a 40 burger. While Sunday’s loss to the San Francisco 49ers feels like the beginning of the end for this regime. PHX Cardinals starts now. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] Hey, hey, welcome in live from Studio K. It’s the PHNX Cardinals postgame show. It’s your premier Arizona Cardinal podcast. Like and subscribe. Leave us a podcast. Uh, leave us a like wherever you get your podcast. That’s right. We’re scrambling. We’re doing it big here. Cardinals get shellacked 41-22 against the San Francisco 49ers. They fall to three and seven this year. 0 and4 against the NFC West. Bo Brock. Yeah, I think Jared speaks for most of us saying he’s dead inside. I mean, from the opening kick, this was a non-competitive game. 98 yards setting up. San Francisco 49ers punching it in. Christian McAffrey his first of three touchdowns on the day and the Cardinals can’t get out of their way in any phase of the game whether it’s just from special teams, offense, defense as far as being disciplined in trying to avoid penalties. How about a franchise record amount of penalties in a single game? We’re going to get into it. What’s the fallout? Because that’s what the conversation needs to be. It’s not this second consecutive future performance by this team. It’s what does this mean for the organization going forward? Who stays? Who gets to come with us beyond 2025? Because some guys their tickets are being cancelled. They’re being ripped up. Yeah. And you know, others, you know, you saw some decent performances out there, mainly from playmakers, but man, just they’re they’re now 0 and4 in the division with two games against the Rams who handled the Seahawks today. And and again, the two games non-competitive recently. That’s right. 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Um when the Arizona Cardinals decided that they were going to IR Kyler Murray a soft benching and they were going to go with Jacobe Brassette, they did so with the understanding that they had the blessing of Michael Bidwell and Monty Austin Ford and that they were going to get a chance meaning Jonathan Ganon to pick their own quarterback next off season. And like can’t push back on that. People like Rap Sheet and Adam Shaft have come out and said that that was their mulligan, right? And they liked how the offense ran with Jacobe Brassette and they very much have have made the decision that Kyler Murray was going to be soft bench on injured reserve. Kyler Murray is is healthy right now. And again, I we’re not going to see Kyler Murray play football for this team again. But when they made that conscious choice, whether it was Kyler, whether it was the team, maybe it’s amicable, you had to do what after you decided to do that? You had to remain competitive. You had to win some games. I think a lot of us assume that, okay, Jacobe Brassett’s playing well, not sustainable, but you should have the roster infrastructure to go out and win six, seven, eight games this year, especially with how the schedule broke down. At the end of the day, that is not what’s happening. Instead, you are being embarrassed outside of the Dallas game in back-to-back divisional games against teams that you play, I don’t know, every year. You have been completely outclassed to the point where it looks like your players have quit. It was 13- nothing at the blink of an eye. It was 35 nothing last week in the second quarter. Th this this statistical game for Jacobe Brassette is a nice footnote. This this game was non-competitive in the third quarter. You got embarrassed again. So, here’s where we’re at for the Arizona Cardinals. No one is safe right now. Monty Austin Ford, Jonathan Ganon, Kyler Murray, everybody is in the process of deciding their fate. And I don’t know how anybody can sit here and feel confident in any of them to return in 2026. I assume Kyler Murray would be traded. I still expect that to happen. But after this performance, whether it’s Monty Oenford who’s calling the shots or somebody else, you can’t cut Kyler Murray and just give him away. This is the product right now. Now, I don’t think Kyler Murray would be able to mitigate any of this. I’ll go on the record and say that. But I also believe that when you decided to bench Kyler Murray, you could not have games like this. This is the worst real all of all realities for Jonathan Ganon right now because you you were measured up against your divisional opponents, your coaches, your GMs. He and Monty Austin Ford clearly do not look like they have the goods to compete in this division. It’s been uh a long time since they were competing within this division. They won a game that really didn’t matter at the end of last season in the finale. Yeah. Against the San Francisco 49ers, but since then they’ve dropped all four of their NFC West games against the 49ers twice against the Seahawks. Last week was just an undressing. Uh and then this week it just from the opening kick, this game was not in the balance. The Cardinals had their chance to crawl back in, scratch, claw, and then they shot themselves in the foot repeatedly throughout the rest of the contest. Now, Jonathan Ganon is staring down a potential winless season in the NFC West where it seems like the other three teams are light years away from the Arizona Cardinals should be. The Cardinals are by far down in the basement in the doldrums, in the darkness of the NFC West seller, and nobody is close to them. There isn’t a disparity, I think, across the league that you’re seeing in the NFC West between three teams in the division and the last place team. The Arizona Cardinals have a lot of questions to answer. They have to look at themselves critically the rest of the way out with leaving everything on the table, everything that they decided weeks ago based on a couple competitive losses, that’s null and void. Now you’ve got people that need to show that they can find a way. They can find solutions throughout all this mess and chaos, find a way to compete and put on good tape and show good decisions as far as coaching. But we haven’t seen that in back-toback games. And anything that was on the table a couple weeks ago or anything that’s in discussions about the future of this team needs to be put on hold until they can show they’re competitive again in this league because they’re not they haven’t been that team the last two weeks. That’s a great point. You don’t get to decide the future of Kyler Murray beyond this season because you may not have a say in your stability with this franchise. Like you you’ve made your bed. You’ve picked Jacobe Brassette. Jacobe Brassette is who he is by the way. Like Jacobe Brassett’s interceptions today, we made this point on air. Jacobe Brassett’s interceptions didn’t even feel like they mattered today. He his production didn’t feel like it mattered. The Cardinals are supposed to be, and don’t get this twisted, a defensive team. Your head coach was a defensive coordinator for a team that had 70 sacks and 17 interceptions. Nick Rolls is supposed to be this seant defensive coordinator, future head coach in the NFL. Let’s put the offense aside for a second. We’ll get to the special teams. You can’t stop anybody. You You’re missing M. Wilson Senior Crimea River. 49ers on Fred Warner. They’re they’re they’re outclassing your ass up and down the field. You’re missing Will Johnson and Mack Wilson senior. And you can’t stop anybody. George KD wide open. Christian McCaffrey wide open. Your defensive line is healthy. You’ve got multiple first round picks, high high performing free agents. Doesn’t matter. you gave up 200 yards rushing last week. This week 49ers did whatever they wanted. So I I I think like the Kyla Murray conversation I think is a little bit irrelevant right now because when you’re the head coach of a team and all three units look terrible, that’s a reflection on you. The defense looks awful. The offense should have been completely revamped this off seasonason. Drew Psoning should have been fired last January. I I saw somebody say like Ganon’s demise is is his commitment to Drew. That could be true. And then how about the special teams now? The special teams, which was once the strength of this team. I know you’re missing your punter. You can’t you can’t cover kickoffs now. You had a field goal blocked. I mean, it’s just this is an embarrassment. You have nothing to hang your head on. You don’t do anything well. So now you have seven weeks to try to convince this fan base, if you guys care about the perception of the fan base, that you you are worth being retained. Like that’s where we’re at. You got to play a Jacksonville team next week that just beat the holy hell out of the Chargers. You’re playing a good Houston defense. I mean, like, winnable games left on the schedule. Maybe Atlanta, maybe Cincinnati. But I I I mean, like, I look at this team right now. I don’t I don’t know how many more. I think one to two games max. I think the overunder for wins the rest of the season is about four and a half for this team. You’re hardressed to find a team that they’re going to be favored against uh the rest of the schedule. Get to some super chats. about Alex 499 believed in this regime’s plan from the beginning, but there’s no denying anymore that they have to go. And then that’s kind of been the the pivot from this fan base. There was a lot of belief. They loved the direction even in the first year where this team was under man. They had tore this thing down to the studs and they were going to rebuild it and they’re uh what they wanted to see as far as being a draft and developed team. And they pull off the draft day trades. They there’s an infusion of youth on this team. You see some building blocks. You see a lot of nice things go from year one to year two. But this year you’ve seen a regression. Yeah. And it’s been in all facets. It has there’s nobody has been able outside of maybe Trey McBride. And McBride even in his good statistical performance wasn’t helping them try to get back in that game with the personal foul penalty. And you can say nitpick it whatever. You got to be squeaky clean when you’re playing from that big of a deficit. Teao Mackey, we’re waiting for JG press conference bites. Usually you would have that. Bo opted to hang here this week. We appreciate that. So Teao Mackey says, “Still waiting on Jonathan Ganon in the press room. Maybe the longest it’s taken him to come out for a postgame presser.” I was curious about that because I was uh kind of scrolling the the Twitter streets like this is a little this is taking a little bit longer. Um, and and usually, you know, with with Mackey or Donnie Duan or uh our guys in the press room, they’re usually firing out quotes and there’s it’s it’s nothing. It’s it’s radio silence. I I think the Cardinals had had their press conference uh like their feed. I think they’ve even taken it down. We’ll see what comes out of that. Johnny, you were saying that you expect maybe a different tone. I I don’t know. I don’t the the reason it’s taken so long I guarantee is that that that the team needs is probably getting undressed in the locker room. Don’t you think as far as verbally undressed? I mean like what it’s a second consecutive year. Do we have somebody undressed his coaching staff? Can somebody come down? I’m talking about top to bottom. But yeah, we’ll get into Can can Monty Austin Ford rip the coaching staff? I I I that’s great. I like the players that they have like indictment on your staff that Michael Wilson can’t get consistent targets and today he set, you know, the marker for most receiving yards in an NFL game this year, but he was underutilized. It’s like, yeah, the coaches need addressed. The Cardinals get an F for coaching this year. They have failed their fan base. It’s an F. The players haven’t been perfect. They’re players. They’re good players. You know, you like Walter Nolan, Darius Robinson, who’s a first round pick. It’s like nobody’s developing. Nobody I I you you might have individual good players. Nobody is vibing together. Uh I I want to get to these super chats here and then we’re going to hear from Ganon uh who’s at the podium now according to Jaylen Blair. Um Blake 499. I would rather watch the Arizona Rattlers play. At least they won games uh contending for championships. Uh listen, today felt like watching an XFL team out there. Chaz 199. When do fans start to matter to this organization? I I would love to hear Jonathan Ganon apologize to the fans. He has not done that yet. I thought it was a mistake last week to open up the presser and not apologize to this fan base and say, “This is not who we are. I believe that. I believe what we’re doing. I apologize. You guys deserve.” You need to do that because you you can’t you can’t have the superiority complex. And we love JG on this show and we had him on the show and we believed in his messaging, but you you can’t you can’t get outclassed by Mike McDonald and Kyle Shanahan backto-back weeks, losing eight of nine and be like, you know, putting it on the players. You’re the coach. Kyle Shanahan’s winning games with M. Jones. Robert Salah has no players. You think they’re out here blaming players? Come on. That’s ridiculous. I I need to see some ownership from this staff. Yeah, we’ll get to uh what we’re hearing from the Cardinals head coach, plus more of your super chats on the other side. It’s PHX Cardinals and we’re fired up here on a postgame show. And the only thing to help your boys are our friends uh at Circle K. Circle K is going to going to do you right. Circle K is going to be my go-to on the way home. They’re not only going to save you 30 cents per gallon when you buy three of uh 12 to 16 ounce Celsius, but they’re also going to hook you up 79 cent Polar Pop, 99 cent froster. Uh the inner circle rewards are flowing throughout the venerable household. So much so my young son after his flag football game this weekend said, “I need a Polar Pop like I need air at Circle K and asking you shall receive young man.” And then they’ve also got so many good meal deals right now. four, $5 and $3, which is an absolute banger. The $4 deal for breakfast, that’ll get you going. 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Uh, want to remind everybody our player of the game, uh, is one Michael Wilson. He’s the X-Factor player of the game. Uh, tremendous job by Big Mike Willie. Um and and again like to me Mike Wilson is the proof is in the pudding with this franchise and this regime of like you’ve had a talented kid that we saw was talented since 2023. You had an offensive coordinator that wouldn’t utilize him. You had a you know a situation in which this team didn’t, you know, prioritize throwing the football downfield and now it’s like too little too late. I’m just glad Michael Wilson’s got another year under his contract so whomever’s coordinating this offense next year has a chance to utilize him. Uh 15 on 18 targets catches for 185 um and just over 12 yards per catch. Um I’m happy for Mike. His family, his youngest, he I think they he and his um lovely family, they had a daughter recently. Yeah. In September. In September. So Mike is the ultimate pro concept professional. This offense has been held back by Drew Petting. Um, and this the staff right now is just underperforming under Jonathan Gan. I don’t know what more there is to say about that. Well, I I think that Michael Wilson was kind of uh one of the major clues to the offense being in a wrong spot, how he started the season and his lack of uh involvement in the offense. And it wasn’t just, you know, obviously the Marvin Harrison Jr. not finding consistency early on. It was it was, hey, you know that these guys are talented. How come they’re not getting involved? How come this passing attack isn’t finding itself downfield? Well, you know, Michael Wilson given the opportunity and and I know in a lopsided affair, he’s been able to show. I mean, it’s not just in this loss. It was also, you know, he’s come alive where he’s had 30 to 40 yards, 60 yards um since the P downfield passing game has has come back to this offense. And then he went off in a big way as he did today. Those are those are eyepopping numbers. as you told me before the show, it was the most receiving yards from a receiver this season in the NFL. Uh crazy stat. Uh but it’s all it’s kind of a moot point as far as what the final statistics look like, but tip the cap to Michael Wilson. Um you know, 185 yards, you say, “Hey, that’s got to be there for close to franchise record.” But this is a franchise that has had a lot of, you know, impressive receiving performances. you know, 217 from Anquan Balden in his rookie debut. Frank Sanders has hit 190. Michael Wilson now has a higher single game receiving yardage than Larry Fitzgerald ever had. That’s kind of crazy. But uh I don’t think, you know, Mike, as humble as he comes, he’s probably doesn’t care about it uh nearly as much as we’re making it out to be because it was just a non-competitive loss for the Arizona Cardinals. We’re waiting on Ganon’s meeting with the media now and of course uh our guy Bo Brock would usually be there but he’s with us this week. No Britain Golden he’s back next week. Um let’s jump in to more of your super chats. Juan uh saying there’s no way JG staff stays another year, right? I think I mean like talking about the tweet from Cam Cox uh Cam at 12 News. Respect Cam’s opinion and he’s dialed in just as well as my co-host is here. uh you know Benjamin Albbright several people reporting I think it was in Fowler and and uh Shfter’s report on the Arizona Cardinals that it looks like you know Austin fort and Ganon are going to get to survive this and Cox Cam Cox was kind of reiterating that but he’s also pointing out like as far as the effectiveness or ineffectiveness as far as the coaching and and how it’s kind of not just following on deaf years but the team is not competing any longer this season right and that’s the keying yeah how do How do you make that case? And um I think as much as that might have been the report and might have been the case a couple weeks ago, things are heating up. I think things have to be heating up because not only with the additions to the stadium as far as, you know, cassitas and higher profile seating. You you’ve got to be able to draw season ticket sales. How are you going to do that when there’s no belief in in the in the coaching staff? And I I think you would look, you know, back to the last time we went through this with Cliff Kingsbury and if there was just like, you know, sitting presidents have their approval rating. What’s Jonathan Ganon’s approval rating? I think you’re going to find it at an all-time low right now and not enough confidence to that’s going to get people to go and spend their hard-earned money. We had some loyal Cardinals fans tell us today on a watch along they left early. Our guy Manny left the game early. He said he’s never done that. this this this organization as much as you saw things and you thought the direction was different the way the team was going to be built and everything they were doing led you to believe that by the way you’re not wrong for you thought that that was this was finally going to be the path to finding consistent success and it’s been just in line with previous failures of the past if not larger failures. Yeah. I uh I think that Benjamin’s report, which he came on our show prior to the Colts game, was very much of the mindset that the Cardinals were going to win some games, right? And I think that that was the byproduct of Sheffer and Rap Sheets report as well. Yeah. I got a I got some updates from the press conference. Our guy Donnie Drew always does his little summary here. Here’s your takeaway notes from Ganon’s uh press aility. He says, uh, the message to the team, we’re on the mat. When the alarm goes off tomorrow, you better wake up on the penalties. Was it Did they finish with 17? I think they at least 17. They finished with 17. So, they they won up by one penalty. They broke the franchise record today. That was early in the fourth quarter. On the penalties, JG said he knew the crew was a high flag crew going into the week. Clearly frustrated. uh again took ownership of the team’s shortcomings and he spoke to owner Michael Bidwell after the game highlighted turnovers, field position, why they’re they’ve allowed 40 points in back-to-back weeks. Said the defensive coach that’s unacceptable as a defensive coach uh and then come back to work when he asked how he was going to get off the mat. I don’t like bringing up the fact that the officials were a high flag unit. The Niners weren’t officiated. The Niners didn’t have a bunch 17 penalties. Let’s not do that. I I don’t love that the optics of that. Uh the Niners were fine. I mean, they had a typical game. And of course, what stands out is he met with Michael Bidwell on the, you know, before he went out there, which maybe is why he took a while. Is that how do you read that? Also, why is Jonathan Ganon relie like putting that out into the ether, making that available to everybody? That’s a little bit odd, don’t you think? Maybe he’s trying to show that his his owners kind of figure out get to the bottom of what the hell’s going on. Well, why does Michael if I’m Johnny Ganon, I wouldn’t reveal that that it looks like I think that’s a bad look. I dude I have no idea. I mean, I’m just I know. I’m just ask I’m trying to make sense of that in real time. Like, why are you admitting that you spoke with your boss? And when you talk about the disparity in penalties, do do you know how lopsided it was? What was it? Cardinals had 17. Yeah. Niners had what? Guess. One. One. They had that one for five yards. They had a five yard. They had They had a 15 yard. Oh, a taunting play. It’s like, oh, that that crew, they throw a lot of flags. Well, to one team, they did. Yeah, that’s a bad look. Uh, that’s tough. Yikes. Meeting with Michael Bidwell before the presser and then revealing that to people. What are we doing here? Come on. Let’s not do that. I met with Michael Bidwell. What did he say? What does it say? I met with Michael Bidwell. This is according to Donnie Drew. Okay, this is uh he said all it says he’s he spoke with Michael Bidwell after the game. Let me see. I went to the principal’s office and I’m in it. I’m going to play byplay with all of you now. That’s Come on, that’s rough. Hit that like button. Uh by the way, we got a thousand people watching live. Let’s get this postgame up to a thousand likes. It’ be great. We’re going to answer all your questions throughout the course of the show and then at the end of the show, Bo and I are going to relieve or uh reveal, excuse me, relieve ourselves. We’re going to reveal the Arizona Cardinals potential top head coaching candidates because it um got Michael Bidwell meeting with JG before press conference. Anyone else reporting from the JG presser outside Donnie Donuts? Quite the bite. Uh F and I didn’t see anything about apologizing fans in there. F and Tony 499. W2F are we doing? We’re not doing that. Patriots are New England. Uh, new head coach, second year QB, 8-2 record, three years in making. We are three and seven NFL laughing sock. Well, they’ve got an elite owner and they’ve got an elite head coach and they’ve got an elite quarterback prospect. Yeah, they hit on the quarterback. They got all three. Elite lead owner, lead head coach, elite QB prospect. Um, Cardinals are are struggling for any of those right now. Lo, $2. Fire Pine and JG promote Nick Rollins to head coach. I’m I’m guessing he means for the rest of the year. Ganon’s not gonna get fired during the season. Uh if he gets fired, but I I would love to see somebody get fired tomorrow. You think that Rolls could get fired tomorrow? Do you think Ross could get fired? I don’t think so. Okay. I don’t believe so. Okay. David Shepard 9999. Same thing in the Titans game. We were at least two offensive drives destroyed by offensive line penalties. Probably only one of the drives was Kyler’s fault. Not saying he’s the answer, but like we’ve said, like we’ve maintained our argument this whole time. It wasn’t Kyler, it wasn’t Kyler’s fault either. But yeah, you uh you just continue to just move backwards offensively. It’s tough to make a living at this level. David 10 bucks. It’s frustrating watching teams like Jacksonville, Carolina making turnarounds quicker than Arizona. I predict New Orleans and Tennessee will get to the playoffs before Arizona does. Yeah, you can’t get lapped by these teams that started their rebuilds after you. Uh, Desert Vulture $2. Please JG don’t say we’re close. I mean, I don’t think he did, but they’re not close. And that’s disrespectful when they say those things because we all we all say I mean, like, you could kind of theoretically say that when they were losing close games. You can’t now. Like, what do you what are you supposed to say now with these kind of outings? There’s I mean you could I would come out apologize to the fan base, talk about your process, talk about what’s gone wrong, highlight the players that are, you know, succeeding. I But I need some accountability, you know, but it may not matter. Al phone’s 199. Wilson has that dog in him. Always a Michael Wilson truth or as were we. Yeah. A lot of people are like they need to trade for a receiver. They need to sign one in free agency. It’s like they have an offensive coordinator problem and they should have moved off of their offensive coordinator. Give me a Mari Cooper. He can mentor Marv. Mari Cooper got a contract and say I can’t play anymore. You guys thought I could. I’m telling you, I can’t. Desert Vulture $2. Teams looking forward to playing and get right. I’m sure the Arizona Cardinals and that Jacksonville defense was the reason they won uh in um you know easily easy fashion today against the Chargers. Yeah, let’s get back into some some more super chats on the other side, plus more takeaways from Ganon. Some uh postgame takeaways and also what really really went wrong out there today that we’re not talking about. We will get to it coming up next here on PHX Cardinals. But first, big thanks to all of our partners, including our friends at Hillet River Resorts and Casinos. Wild Horse Pass is our way game location, but they’ve got one of four locations to experience the vest the best the valley has to offer. Nobody does it better. Lounge at either the AAA four diamond resorts. Let relaxation take charge with unbeatable desert mountain views. 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Think he’s got to the end of the year to try to to mitigate this disaster. I I would have assumed it would have been Drew Petting being fired first. Maybe he has been leapfrogged by one of two people. Justin Fry, the offensive line, continues to be a disaster. Uh although they were better today than they were Jacobe Brassette, was he sacked? I don’t think he was sacked, but they had so many holding penalties. He was sacked zero times. Yeah, he was sacked zero times. So Justin Fry though, that unit not very good. And then Jeff Rogers, my god. I mean, Jeff Rogers, he’s he’s got no Blake Gillikin, but still the unit on special teams has been terrible. Um, so I I don’t think that though that sends the message that you that you need to send. And I here’s why I’m I’m asking Jonathan Yan because you may not have this card to play much longer. Are you gonna let Drew Petting continue to to potentially make your bet for you before the end of the year when you may have that decision forced on you when you and your entire staff are fired? Like, wouldn’t it be something ironic? Whereas John refuses to pivot off of Drew and then at the end of the year it doesn’t even matter because he’s fired anyway. the entire staff along with JG Drew Petting right now from the Jacobe Brassette like RPO in the red zone, the twopoint conversion, direct snap to Michael Carter, the the backwards development on guys where it shouldn’t take Michael Wilson this long or Marv to get going. I think the message you send tomorrow is you relieve Drew Petting of his duties. You allow Drew Terrell to call plays the rest of the year, Israel Wolfford, maybe whomever, pick one of those two guys, and and you try to make it through these next seven games and you see if that lights a spark on your team. Maybe you fire a defensive position coach, but I I I think at m like tomorrow, fire somebody, get a you need to have the players feel like that there’s a sense of urgency. If everybody’s just grandfathered into their roles, why why are the players going to care? The messaging is the same. It’s falling on deaf ears. Yeah. There needs to be like a public display of accountability of a head rolling and like when when you lose two games like they have in non-competitive ways, but it’s on top of losing games like they did five straight where it was different ways to to crap the game away at the end. And it was, you know, a boneheaded play where the player let relieves the football before crossing the goal line or you fumble an interception into the end zone and you’ve got all these issues, all these kind of uh really kind of high volume, highly publicized mistakes that cost you games. You couple that with non-competitive performances, that’s where people want to see some sort of change. Exactly. And I think that the the Arizona Cardinals before, like when they were losing close and the season wasn’t completely lost, that they couldn’t stand to fire a key coordinator, a top coordinator, coughing at that, right? Just try to keep this train on the tracks. Train’s off the tracks now. Yeah. the season is lost and now you have to try to save face for your for your own survival and and realize that the the coordinator or the players that you were, you know, protecting, they they better not be here next year. No, they’re not they’re not helping you. Move forward and and and make a move that’s that’s going to send a message. Uh because otherwise, you know, you’re just you’re just going down with the ship. And you know, I don’t I don’t think that’s going to get show the fight that’s going to be necessary uh for to to get anybody to buy it. Let’s count some cards here on the PSN Cardinals postgame show. Then we’re back to your super chats. We’ll run through these brought to you by our friends at Hila River Resorts and Casinos. Trey McBride continues to put together what should be if the Cardinals, and again, this is I don’t want to go on a tangent. This is where the Cardinals screw their own players by not winning enough. Trey McBride should be an allp pro this year. He should have been an allp pro last year. Cardinals don’t win enough games. That’s unfortunate. I mean, 10 catches, 115 yards, a touchdown. Trey McBride now, I think he’s got six touchdowns on the year. Yeah. Uh 600 plus yards. Uh he’s he’s he’s going to dominate over,000. Does he have seven? Does he have six with Jacobe? It Yeah, maybe he does. Maybe it hasn’t been updated on ESPN yet. So, I mean, Trey McBride dominant effort. Josh Schwe another sack up to nine. The thing about McBride, too, is he’s in rare air. I mean, he’s he had already established this last game. He had his 11th consecutive game with five catches or more. Yeah. Joining Kelsey, who’s done it twice, and and uh Tony Gonzalez. Now he’s at 12 consecutive games with five or more receptions. He’s had 700 yards and seven touchdowns. I’m sorry. ESPN had haven’t updated his stats yet. So, over 700 yards receiving in how many games played? 10 games play. That’s pretty wild for a tight end. Um, and then obviously Michael Wilson is and he and Marvin Harrison Jr. have a roughly 500 yards receiving. Josh Schwe his ninth sack of the season and then the penalties the 17 flags on the day which is I mean it’s hard to fathom that and I’m very disappointed in Ganon’s answer as I I mentioned before the break about blaming it or kind of blaming it on the crew when the NerS had one flag. I mean that that that to me is just I I get it. I mean take ownership at some point. I that that’s that’s just basically saying like, “Oh, we knew it was going to be a problem.” Well, the Niners knew the same things that you knew about that staff. Yeah. And they opted to not be flagged 17 times. And sure, there probably a couple that were ticky tack, but I mean that that run we saw that hold on the Bam Knight run. I mean that that was a hold right there. there. Max Melton tackled a player on the one like it you guys are not well it’s not a well coached team right now like that’s screaming at this fan base. You can’t polish this up anything other than and the f the fan base likes these players. You’re not going to get them to turn on the players when you’re losing in embarrassing fashion consistently. No one’s going to defend your game plan. Everybody’s going to compare you to the rest of the NFL and the rest of the division. You got three playoff teams right now in the NFC West and then you got a team that’s just getting boat raced in their own division. And the here’s the the biggest word the word of the year for the Cardinals is it starts with an E. It’s like Sesame Street, the letter of the day. Erosion. The Cardinals have a they’re an eroding product, right? They’re not on the rise since mid year last year when they were six and four. Yeah. Right. Two and five at the end of last year. Don’t let that little Don’t let that little lsanity run tell you that this is a top 10 player in the league because it’s not. This is not a team that’s going to be consistently winning football games. They haven’t done it yet. They have they have to get there. And you know the old adage of, you know, lose by a lot, lose by a little, win by a little, win by a lot. Like they’re not even on that trajectory. They’re not they’re back to lose. They’re they’ve gone backwards to where they’re losing by a lot of points. And this this coaching staff, they they’re going to have to figure out, you know, where where it went right because at least in 2023 when when they didn’t have a competitive team, they were a disciplined team, right? They were playing tight games. when they were when they were losing tight games and like you saw the division the NFC West and they was getting out of out like out of their reach early on because the Niners kept winning and the Rams kept winning and the Seahawks kept winning and you would see the division standings and people would be like well the Cardinals aren’t that bad. Yeah, the Cardinals aren’t that bad. They’ve lost a lot of close games. Now they are matching what their record is. the the past two performances match what their record is and now they’re turning into more of what that you know where they are in the standings and it’s really it it’s it’s you can’t hide from it. No, they they were a three-point underdog and they lost by 21. I mean like they they’re three-point home underdog and they lost by 21. Last week they were six-point dog and they lost by 20 plus points. Like that’s everything. Sitting here and blaming the players. Come on. Like what? Like what are we doing? Nobody in the chat. Michael 499. Ganon can’t say he wants killers and have zero energy on the sideline. No mention defending Mr. Screen passing consistently. It almost feels like like like Drew Pine and Jonathan Ganner are like a package deal almost. That’s kind of what it feels like. It’s like hey I Ganon’s like I’m going to defend Drew to the end of the line even if it cost me my job. That’s what a really depressing kind of reality for JG to go out like this. David for that’s being loyal. That’s not looking for killers. Not that’s not looking for people who are going to win it at all costs. Kyle Shanahan’s fired like defensive coordinators for the past three years. He had Steve Wils. He had a couple other people. Like this is the NFL, man. You can’t produce that. Get the hell out. That RPO on second down. I mean that the game was 19 to 10 at that point, right? Or 19 to7. 19 to7. And you were knocking on the door. You were moving the football and you call a second down RPO with your 32-year-old immobile quarterback, right? And you lose four yards. And I think you did you lose yards on third down too? Yeah. Yeah. And you have to settle for a field goal and it’s a two-score game. You’re still it’s still a two-score game. It doesn’t matter. Like you make almost zero headway there because of that bone hunted call. Like that’s the difference. Like the the like statistically you’re going to see the wide receivers have better numbers and the quarterback passing statistics are up and the points per game are up from where they were, you know, going through the first five weeks of the season. But you’re still in crucial critical moments making boneheaded calls. When it’s like when when it’s third and one, when it’s fourth and one, we’re still seeing seeing the wrong call being put in there. Yeah. Want to hit some of these super chats. Bo, David, $4.99. Wasn’t Shester and Co about Kyler starting in Dallas. Maybe Ganon’s future isn’t as secure as others think. I think that Yeah. And by the way, Chef and Ramp sheet got those articles up at the same time. Those were that they got information directly from the Cardinals. This is this is an organization that’s been uh tighter the vest since Austin for Ganon took over. So information that leaks or gets out, it’s usually put there. Uh Chief Skull Bidwell is selling an experience that right now frankly sucks. Ganon isn’t coaching and I said keep Roll. Now I say clean house. That’s what this is. This is that’s what it’s snowballing into. It’s it’s right now it’s hard to argue that it’s not the best for the team moving forward. Yeah, Bob two bucks cards helmets say choose love, not football. All right, Darth Vader 499. Uh, I agree that the penalties were out of all-time high, but some of those penalties that were called were egregious. Yeah, I agree. I agree. But still, you put yourself in that situation where like you take away some of those penalties, does it does it really change the the outcome by that much? I mean, the Yeah. And that’s also like it goes back to not to get on a tangent here, but it goes back to what we talked about earlier this year. There were people who were making arguments that the Cardinals were the best two and five team of all time. And it’s like, hey, they were losing that. There’s things people were saying that they had the best win percent, they had the best point differential and they they should have been winning these games, but they were losing them. Yeah. It’s like the people that right now and like I thought the Broncos were frauds. All the statistics point to the Broncos like not winning games. Guess what they’re doing? They’re winning games. They’re the best two and five team of all time. It’s going to turn around for them. They’re terrible. They’re three and seven. They’re getting blown out now. Where’s their gold star for the best two and five team of all time? Get out of here with that loser mentality. Losers lose games. Winners win games. You got coaches in this division that are winners that win every flipping year. And and another reason why it points to coaching issues is why they couldn’t capitalize on being the two best two and five team. Yeah. Why it went the other direction. We’ll explain why. It’s going to come up next here. PHNX Cardinals. Hit that like button for our friends at the husband and wife law team. I was driving in today. Yeah. And you see a lot of advertising. You see a lot of billboards and then I see some promotions for the husband and wife law team. They have themselves put together experience ready to deliver for you. I promise you right now, of course, nobody can guarantee the outcome of a legal case. They’re here with promises that are proud for you and all their clients when it comes to relationships. This is a relationship. 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Find your local Rally House location. can shop their entire product assortment online rallyhouse.com. Hit that like button, subscribe to PHNX Sports, we got by the numbers here on the postgame show. We’re going to get to your super chats and we are going to get to our coaching candidates here. Uh in this crap box of a game there, what about our play of the game? Oh yeah, let’s do that. Yeah, we’re going to get to our play of the game. Here’s by the numbers here presented by our friends at I believe Desert Financial Credit Union. Of course, Cardinals had a lot of good box score numbers. I did see this. This was via Josh Weinfuss uh on Twitter. So you see that 488 total yards. Cardinals outgainain the Niners by 207. That’s the worst yardage differential by any winning team this season. Yeah. Doesn’t matter. Yeah. Doesn’t matter when you’re giving up 98 yard kick returns and your special teams are terrible and you’re turning the ball over and you can’t receive the football and you can’t secure an interception. Look at those penalties. 17 for 130. The Niners just came. It’s suffocating the the poor one on that side. The Niners just came and took what the Cardinals gave them. Players wide open. The Niners are are on to bigger and better things. The Cardinals are on to what uh we assume is going to be a top 10 top five draft pick. Um let’s jump back into 17 penalties, three turnovers. Yeah, that’s poorly coached team. Can’t force turnovers. Can’t clean up penalties. The car the Cardinals dominated in garbage time. They had garbage time touchdowns. Um they had garbage time yards. Yeah. Um and that and that’s unfortunate. Doesn’t mean the players don’t care. They didn’t Kobe Brassette set the NFL record for completions today. 47. It was it was the most like Chris Paul hits a three down 40 for the Suns type of stat I’ve seen in a long time. Uh uh let’s jump to these super chat. I’ll get through these as you furiously type away. Brian P season ticket renewals come out this week. At least we saw Shadore in a game and the trade for him can officially die. Yeah, he is who we thought he was. How did Shadore look? Uh bad. Be bad. Uh against the uh Baltimore. Say, let me take out a box score. All right, Lamar $5. Uh make Michael Wilson wide receiver run. Give him more opportunities going forward. I think that’s a given. Oh, with along with uh Marvin and Trey. I I mean I like I like the co It’s like we say this every week. I like the players. I like the players. Four for 16. Yeah, he was really bad. Uh I like the players. I think like a good coach, good coaching staffs get more out of these guys. John John’s $2. JB giving us all the empty calories. Jacobe Reset, God love him. I mean, he’s out there. He’s s he’s having a good time. He’s making mistakes, but he’s trying to make plays. He shouldn’t be in this position. We’ve talked about it. Here’s where he said he said on that first pick in his press conference that uh wide receivers both of them ran the wrong route. Yeah. Great. Alance, what do you think a caller like Ben Johnson would do with K1, Trey McBride, Michael Wilson, Marvin Harrison Jr.? We have the talent. Find that guy to unlock this team. We all know the issue. I mean, you’re seeing that full display, right? I mean, what Ben Johnson was able to do in Detroit, what they’re doing you what’s happened post Ben Johnson and what’s he’s been able to do with with the Bears, like play calling matters. It’s it’s one of the things you have to prioritize when when building a team. But here’s the problem now is like the defense has regressed worse than the offense now where like you’ve got talent on defense, you can’t stop anybody. I mean I Yeah, I I mean I I think the offense is is really in special teams have put the defense Yeah. in a tough situation. Like the defense like they they struggle minorly against Seattle, but they also didn’t give up 14 of those points. Sure, that’s fair. They’re all But like Yeah, it’s not it’s not good enough. It’s not good enough. Yeah. Uh let’s jump in. Steve Kim’s burner. Josh Frier looked decent. Yeah. I mean, he I thought Bishum was fine, too. I could beat him had couple penalties or what, but no one is bad. Let me repeat this. No one is as bad as Jonah Williams. No one. Nobody. No more. Stephen Jackson, any other team in the NFL would fire Ganon tomorrow. I think I think coaches are very trepidacious of that. I I think if Monty Austin owners or coaches owners, excuse me. Yeah. I I think Monty Austin for and Michael Bidwell can get started on a head coaching search even before the season’s over. Yeah. I I mean what I I I you John and Ganon deserves to finish this year. I know people are going to, you know, throw fruit at me for saying I mean what’s the what’s the point? What are you trying to What are you trying to determine? You’re not keeping anybody from the staff if you fire Ganon now. I mean like I I think somebody else should get a chance to call plays for a while. I think that that should have been done a while ago. Yeah. Sean Scott move on from JG bring in Kenny Dillingham and that wouldn’t make Dilly a liar because he said he’s staying in Arizona, right? I don’t think I don’t think Kenny Dillingham that’s a big jump. Yeah. Belongs in the NFL yet. That’s a big jump. If if you’re going to the college level, too, like don’t you look at Signetti? Don’t you look at Lane Kein? Yeah. I don’t We do have kind of our uh our I guess future JG successor power rankings coming. We do. We have We have five candidates. Jeff Mike looked like Marv was what Marv was drafted to be. I But Mike’s been in the league a while, too. I think Mike set the tone. I think it was his first catch. It was on a tough third down and he went up and won that one-on-one falling backwards and it just uh Jacobe Brassette just knew, okay, I can trust this guy. They got they have weapon. I think the the takeaway should be they have too many weapons to be this ass weekly with their passing game. So beautifully said. Darth Vad Darth Vader. What poem is that from? That’s I think that’s beautiful. I don’t know any poets to reference here. Darth Vader 499. Do we really have a chance unless we steal coordinator from within the division? I got a coordinator for you that I’m going to bring up later. Darth Vader. I got one too. Ay Moses 89. Uh we knew the offense was bad, but you can’t have 40 dropped on you back toback weeks. 100%. Especially when you are defensive head coach. Time to clean house. It’s the biggest if they were losing these games and and the defense was playing really well and the offense was just bad and it was a quarterback problem, then you could then you could have Kyler be your martyr. Wouldn’t be the right thing to do from like a nobility standpoint, but you could Yeah, Kyler’s the problem. We we’ll take care of that. We’ll do this. Like there have been plenty of examples like this year in and year out. Like Kevin Oonnell and Brian Flores can go into this offseason saying JJ McCarthy, get the f out. We’re we’re competitive despite you, right? the Steelers every year competitive despite their quarterback. The Cardinals are no longer competitive. The Cardinals can’t stop anybody. The Cardinals can’t cover a kickoff or field a kickoff or punt the football. Nothing works for the Cardinals right now. And and and the biggest indictment is the fact that you got to play your like we don’t get to say goodbye to the NFC West for three years. You play these guys, you play these mfers every year. Like does anybody think it’s changing with this regime right now? I don’t think so. We got another break according to Noah. I thought we were way through all of our breaks. I’m sorry. I’m a bad boy. Uh we’re gonna get back uh to your super chats here. Uh first I want to just highlight before our break. I’d love to do this, Noah. Our play of the game. The play of the game. 49ers 49ers opening kickoff 98 yards set the tone. The Cardinals wet the bed since then. can’t label this the Cardinals quit and say, “Well, this is the play that turned the game.” Unless it’s the opening kickoff where the Cardinals seemingly quit on the opening play. Yeah, you can’t be out of the game from the opening kick unless you do give up a big time play on the opening kick. So, and that’s that that that’s uh brought to you by our friends over at Arizona Lottery. If they’d like us to maybe give a positive for the hometown team, let’s just use the one I said about Michael Wilson. That was a good catch. Yeah. Uh, we got one more break, then we’re jumping into our head coaching hierarchy here. Dingo says no more breaks. Noah, did you listen to Dingo? Noah makes the rules. Too bad. One more break and we’re coming right back. It’s PHNX. Fired up because we hit our boosted prop with our friends at Bet 365. I’m rolling it, man. Boosted parlay plus 600. You could have gotten it this morning. We plugged in on the pregame show. Three for three on our three-leg parlay. Michael Wilson over 60 yards. Trey McBride anytime touchdown. And of course, Jacobe Brassette over 225 passing. My man almost doubled that total today. And you can do more with with that. Bet 365. And again, download the bet 365 app today. New customers get 200 in bonus bets. When you bet $5, win or lose, sign up, use the bonus code PHX365. Deposit $10, place a five spot. 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Yeah, but according to Donnie Druan via Jonathan Ganon, JG met with Michael Bidwell after the game in the report from Theo Mackey is it took JG a long time to get into that uh press room post game. Yeah. Chief Skull Flores in Minnesota will get a head coach job while JGales get defensive coordinator positions in Minnesota. Yep. Absolutely. Uh well, we’ll see. see got a long off seasonason to go. That seems like it’s a good fit for one of the guys. I mean, they they got a good relationship with KOC. Louie 199. This team is done. It’s time to tank for Mendoza. I like Mendoza a lot. Bo’s not a huge fan. Um, but you always do that to me. You always Well, I just like going as far as the prospects go. I’m not saying like Mendoza just flat out Bo said he doesn’t like him. He wouldn’t draft him. He says he’s got a rag arms, bad personality. No, Bo likes him. He doesn’t love him. I love me some Mendoza. Sigs out for Mendoza. Uh, Buanaki, our friends in Canada. $2. Go get Salah. He was not the issue in New York. Buanaki, hold that thought. Alones, um, 499. You notice 49ers didn’t milk the game away being up 2510 at the half like Day-Z would do. That’s the difference in coaching. The 49ers, Seahawk, and Ram coaching staffs run rough shot over the Cardinal staff. It’s not even comparable. Yeah. what are we even talking about? Like that’s where we’re at, right? And and I teased this going into one of our breaks. Uh like how this team at two and five, you can see historically that you know they’re one of the better two and five teams of all time. That was way back when in week seven, right? and and we’ve been proven that well they are what their record is because when you have the the data that was available and you saw the wins just the two and you saw the losses and you saw what was exposed and you saw the shortcomings of this team and what needed to improve you you’ve seen their competition be able to more so expose the issues than the Cardinals make up for their shortcomings and that’s a testament or an indictment on the coaching staff. They weren’t able to say, “Hey, we’re this team that we were hard luck losers that we fell to two and five, but we’re better than that.” They’ve proven that that record actually was pretty accurate and that now that they’ve had these major exposures, this team is now having a tough time to stay competitive. Um, they’ve they’ve given up 80 points in two weeks. I mean, what what can you say? You shouldn’t get to keep your job if that happens. your two your two games in which you made a a conservative call to go with the back of quarterback. 85 points allowed in two games and and and the games are not competitive. They’re not fun. They’re not engaging. This is an entertainment product. You have failed at entertaining your fan base, much less winning games. Players are regressing. You you have basically, you know, ousted your once franchise quarterback and like you had to be right on that. You may not have been wrong, but you had to be right on that. Yeah. For the optics of this to look okay, redeemable, and and you weren’t. And so, here’s where you’re at. You’re at the point where Kyler Murray may or may not be gone, but you you got a one-way ticket out of town right now. Like, if this continues, like this this isn’t even a conversation as we go ahead. Well, I mean, and the Kyler conversation becomes like, does Kyler Murray want to come back, right? Skyler Murray, does he want to have an eighth go at this? Does he feel like, hey, this we’ve tried everything for this relationship to work and and we’ve reached this stalemate? And maybe he’s like, yeah, I I I’d like to see what else is out there. So, you know, people wanting to point to the organization. I I think that this is going to be uh probably a collaboration to find, you know, the best option forward. But the the Cardinals, as we were talking about in the pregame, like they they cannot lose out on that asset on Kyler. They have to be because they don’t have any kind of um they don’t have any equity built up that can say, “Hey, they have any business dropping what’s considered what many teams in this league would consider a franchise quarter.” Well, I think this this is going to help Kyler Murray’s value around the NFL. I think people are going to be looking it’s like, well, you couldn’t win games without Kyler Murray. Like you were slightly below 500 with Kyler Murray. Like what could our infrastructure do? Moaz Cards fans saying like K1’s under contract is not his choice. I mean, we know that it’s more than that. Like player empowerment is at an all-time high. Uh, I think that you’ve got several pieces of evidence throughout this even this this season alone or this tenure that Kyler Murray wasn’t put up to put in a position to find success here. Um, and I I think that like they they would probably oblige if they could find a trade partner. I think no doubt actually no doubt they but here’s what I but here’s what I’ll say. Like Kyler Murray also isn’t going to hold out. is going to get paid regardless. And so like I I do think like if they had a like if somehow someway they had a new regime come in and they couldn’t find a trade partner and the trade options stink for the Cardinals and the draft class doesn’t work out. It’s just like I not just be like all right Kyler you’re going to be on the team this year right like I’m not saying I think they’re going to do that. I think my Osfor is going to try his best to trade Kyler Murray, but I’m with you and I I’ve come to I haven’t come to Jesus moment like the last couple of weeks cuz I last week or so cuz I I thought John Gan was going to win seven games and and this was going to be redeemable and you’re quitting now. You don’t get to quit and then cut Kyler Murray. I don’t want to do that. That Cardinal fans shouldn’t be subjected to that. You want to quit then quit and get fired and then we’ll have a new regime take over and then yeah, if you can get a second round pick for third round pick for Ky then so be it. You can’t cut Kyler Murray winning four or five games and just being completely outclassed because it’s just like he’s an asset. He’s clearly an asset. And right now he’s proven a point for better or worse that like he mitigated your pass rush. Your co your coordinator offensively didn’t want to work with them or couldn’t work with them. Like get get out of here with that. Don’t cut Kyler Murray. If you have to keep him, keep him. God forbid you have to keep a quarterback that you know a lot of teams would you know rather start than I don’t know JJ McCarthy like the the Vikings would sign Kyler Murray. Yeah. The the Steelers Aaron Rogers just broke his wrist. You don’t think they’d take a flyer on Kyler Murray? Like they’ll get a draft pick for him. I’m pretty convincing at this point. Keeping it going with the super chats. Nope. Okay. You want to Here we go. Here we go. Ask and you shall receive. We got 10 plus new members in 10 minutes via our watch along. And because of that, we are debuting our potential JG successor coaching hierarchy. Okay, we’re not sitting here saying JG will be fired. However, three and seven, 15 and 29, blowouts of plenty. Now is the time. Here are the five candidates we’ve identified as of right now. No, man. Let’s see him. Mike McCarthy, Super Bowl winning coach of the Packers. won 12 straight games, I believe, in three plus straight years with the Dallas Cowboys. Was out of football last year and this year. Clint, or excuse me, this year. Clint Kubak, the phenomenal OC for the Seahawks. Dad was uh head coach of the Texans. Robert Salah, former Jets head coach that has completely undressed this franchise more times than I care to admit. Joe Brady, the OC for the u uh Buffalo Bills. would go along the the same vein of draft a quarterback, get an offensive head coach, and then lastly, Brian Flores, who’s done a phenomenal job this year keeping the Vikings competitive despite egregious quarterback play from Carson Wentz and JJ McCarthy. These are our big five right now ahead of some uncertainty. Seven games left with Jonathan Ganon. Yeah, we we had kind of crunched the numbers. Mike McCarthy very comparable to Shawn Payeyton. People won’t admit it, but like wins, losses, Super Bowls, they’re they’re kind of the same guy. Yeah. Um and you would take some of the seasons that he had in Dallas that were called failures that made it to the postseason. You would take that at this stage. Can he kind of um could he maybe find some success that we haven’t even tasted in far too long here? Could he compete with some of the other head coaches in this division? I I think he’s got a track record. Is there a ceiling for a guy like McCarthy? Yeah, I I think you can absolutely say that. Um Salah, yeah, I’m it’s I’m tired of watching him celebrate on the Cardinal sidelines, you know, every time he faces them because his defense is is finding a way to make big time plays and shut down this offense and win football games. Like, it’s solid. There’s the experience there. It checks a box as far as not, you know, bringing in a new first year head coach. I think that the fan base is tired of seeing that happen. Yeah, I agree. Um because it was what, three consecutive post Bruce Arens, right? And Bruce Arens was technically a first year head coach, but you know, he had so much experience under his belt in the league and he had that interim uh stent right before he was hired for uh was it Pagano who had cancer and with the Colts and he led him to that playoff appearance. So, um, it’s a list and I like Clint Kubak. I mean, Clint Kubak is has shown he’s got a ton of success, get the most out of quarterbacks from Brock Pury, his career year in San Francisco. He’s the passing game coordinator to uh, you know, Sam Darnold. He’s worked with Sam Darn, he’s working with Sam Darnold right now and has worked with him in the past and then also found some success early in New Orleans last year in a disastrous season. I see people dogging on some of these picks. We’d love to hear your recommendations. Matt Lafur, I saw people floating that Matt Lafur is not getting fired. Um, and I I’m not sure Matt Leafur would would take this job. And again, like we’re under the impression that I think a lot of these coaches would would do an interview with the Cardinals. Um, I am not anti-defensive head coach. I am Listen, if it works, it it’s it works well. Like Mike McDonald, we’ve seen that. And I also think when you when you talk about the Cardinals not having security at the quarterback position, it also might lend itself better to a defensive head coach because like who’s the quarterback of this team next year, guys. I don’t think anybody knows definitively whether it’s Flores or I I’m I’m a huge advocate for Robert Sol. Let me give you my my sales pitch of Sal here, okay? As I’ve done it many many times, he was a head coach of the Jets. He won seven games, I think two straight years. They bottomed out. They were two and three. He got fired. I I I think at minimum like you’re going to get high level defensive play. And I I think he holds his players accountable better. Yeah. And I think he and Woody Johnson clashed and he he was forced Zack Wilson was forced on him. I I like I like really strengthening the Cardinals with Robert Salah while weakening San Francisco. And yeah, I you know, my buddy Blake text me, he’s like, “Well, you have to give the Niners a third round pick.” You know, you that’s a drop in the bucket. You’re you’re giving them what? Yeah. If he’s a good coach, he’s a good coach. You’re giving him pick 100. Congratulations. Like I I I the Cardinals are bigger than just a draft pick right now. Put that list back up real quick. Let’s just look at the the the number one positive for these guys, right? Uh Mike McCarthy obviously a resume. Yep. Winning resume. Clint Kubak hot coordinator. Weakens the Seahawks. He would weaken the Seahawks and he would give you offensive upside. Yep. The defense would be a complete unknown. He’d have to find somebody to be his his defensive counterpart. Yep. Uh Robert Salah would all the defensive talent that you have that you’re not seeing a lot of production from, he would be able to untap that. He would weaken the Niners and he would also raid the 49ers offensive staff for potential future offensive coordinators. I think Flores falls into the the defense, unlocking the defense, too. Yeah. And then he could raid Kevin O’Connell’s staff for offensive. I love that combination. Whereas Clint Kubak, could he get, you know, a secondary coach for for uh Mike McDonald to come over? I I just love the idea of stripping good coaches from within, right? I I I think Joe Brady can’t do that for us, right? Joe Brady would be the ultimate like you’re you’re the Cardinals have a top three pick. They’re going to get a quarterback. We’re going to mirror the quarterback with Joe Brady and this we’re we’re strapping him for the long haul. And and again, that might be the right decision, but I I think I like the defensive coaches being able to come in here or Kubak being able to come in here and really just kicking the ass of the coaches in the division. I have seen Click Kubak put up big points on the division rivals. I have seen Robert Salah shut down the Rams, shut down the the Seahawks. Like those are tangible things. I I Claymore Jones say not Salah. What What more did Robert Salah have to do? He’s the reason the Niners are going to make the playoffs this year. Like with M. Jones, they got no player. Look at Look at who the Niners are playing with defensively. You see Fred War. If it was Fred Warner and Nick Post out there, Cardinals wouldn’t be scoring at all. I I He is an elite defensive coach. And again, like people are going to have PTSD because Ganon’s a defensive guy. You a good coach is a good coach. You’re going to have to couple him with a with an offensive guy, though. And and you also have reservations like when you look at Flores how things went south with the quarterback. Anna saying Rams OC Michael needs to be in there. Wouldn’t hate that. I mean I going the NFC West man coaching tree is actually has some success. I I I but there’s there’s not a whole lot of experience there. You gotta you gotta be able to find somebody who can come in here and not this is gonna sound harsh wet the bat against the NFC West. You you got to be able to come in here. Alawishas, you’re too concerned about simply damaging the Niners. They’ve hurt him so much. Well, this entire division. Oh, let’s You know what? I’m sorry, guys. Let’s go get another Cleveland coordinator. Awesome. Let’s go pick more people from the NFC East. Let’s get somebody from the AFC South. My bad. No, I see the Gruden in there. I just I I don’t know if Gruden’s going to get a honest look as coach in the NFL. Michael Bidwell wouldn’t do that. No. No chance. I I think those are very realistic options here. For people who say there’s not an option on the list, that that’s what you’re dealing with this off season, right? And that’s the one of the biggest reasons Bo and I have been supporters of Ganon. Yeah, even when they were losing, it’s like, okay, give them another year. Retool the offense for the love of God. Fire the offensive coordinator and and retool in January, right? That’s gone now. I’m sorry. You can’t be outscored 85 to 44 and just be like, “We’re good. Everyone’s safe.” It’s like, come on. Come on. And I You’re saying Bidwell won’t won’t lure like top-notch head coaches here. I think that’s why you have to keep money awesome for well Jaylen Blair saying these head coach options stink. Not a great year to have switch head coaches. And it’s like you you’ve got that twofold. You’ve got head coach and quarterback and potentially quarterback. And that’s what why one of the big main reasons we’ve been such proponents of of Kyler Murray and and Kyler Murray being the franchise quarterback, you know, now and in the future because there there haven’t been any options to to pivot elsewhere. Like you look at this quarterback, whether it’s free agency or trade market or now the dwindling number of prospects in the NFL draft. Like Todd McShet is saying there’s seven potential quarterback needy teams between, you know, number one and the 11th pick. Now, the Cardinals now firmly in the top 11, but you’re going to have to buy with those teams aggressively for a quarterback if you’re going to pivot off of Kyler Murray. How about this quote from Ganon? I I had heard this one. I think this is this is telling for what the perception should be. He says, he lays it out. Ganon, I’m a This is from Tea Macki. I’m a defensive head coach. Yeah, it’s unacceptable. You can’t win when you give up that many points. It really doesn’t matter how you get there. So, this is the first time really Gan has acknowledged like I’m a defensive head coach. He didn’t and he’s and he’s a CEO coach and he wants to empower his coordinators and he doesn’t want to call the defense. I mean, does he call the defense next week? Is that a change we could see? Does that even matter at this point? I mean, does he feel like Rolls is that big of a liability? Jesus, what a fall from grace. No, I mean there’s I don’t think there’s any chance if it’s if play calling is going to be stripped it’ll be to Drew. Don’t you think? I don’t know. Is Ganon so out of the box out of pocket with the offense that it’s like he has to have Drew around? And is is if there was some sort of tweak to the defensive play calling and he was going to maybe assist like we wouldn’t I don’t even think we would find out about that. Howie 999 I firmly believe that this coaching staff will be replaced. Think no coach wants to come here with Kyler Murray’s quarterback but I think Kyler Murray is done in a new regime will come in and pick their quarterback. What happens too, Howie, if like, and I agree, I agree with all that, by the way. Um, what happens if Kyler Murray’s is traded, right, and Ganon and Austin Ford go out and they they pick another quarterback and then like we’re right back here next year. Then it’s just like then you saddled some some second round draft pick to this like it’s you you Tyler Shuck it, right? You’re just like, what are we doing? Like I I I just you have to what’s I need a vision that I can be sold on. of of success. Like Ganon keeps being asked rightfully so by the media like why does this keep hap you say this keeps happening. Yeah. Says I’m not doing enough good enough job. The vision that they had for this team they’re failing and like I get it. You’re missing some players. You got all your defensive players like most of your defensive players. Okay. Their defensive players last year were playing better and you had it like Dante Stills and you and me out there. Mhm. I I think the messaging has been lost with this team and I I do I do wonder maybe I’m I’m reaching here Bo like after the D Marcato thing like they played like one good defensive game since then. Did some guys check out. I I you never know how I’m never going to sit here and say like I know how players think but after the D Marcato incident and then you got Kas Campbell saying yeah coach messed up like did did he did did he lose the the trust of some players at that point? I thought that was ridic ridiculous to assume at the time. Now since then, they play against the Colts, they stink defensively. They play against the Packers, they stink defensively. They play well against Dallas, give them credit on a nationally televised game. They had 15 days to prepare and then they get shellacked two weeks in a row defensively. I mean, like I’m not it’s not nothing. And now like who knows, maybe players didn’t agree with the Kyler Murray benching. He’s got fans in that locker room. Like I I just feel like there have been so many different emotions that this team has gone through. I I And then you start losing like this. When you start losing like this, I’m sorry, it doesn’t just stop. It doesn’t like it takes a really resilient group, right? Is is all on the same page. And when when you lose like they have you when you win like they have um seems a bit far-fetched to think that that camaraderie that wholeness continues. Trade K1 plus our first to get a quarterback. Jets maybe Jonathan Castro. I don’t know if the Jets would relinquish that top pick. I mean why would the the Jets who are staring down and embracing a fullon Jets aren’t the Jets I’m sorry. Go ahead. The Jets don’t have the first overall pick, though, right? But they they have a high pick. I think the Titans are more likely to trade the pick to somebody who wants the quarterback. I I I think if the Titans the Titans are sticking with Cam Ward, we have to assume maybe. And so, unless they pull a let’s say pull a a kind with Rosen, but that that wasn’t what the first overall pick. I like the Titans pick is going to be open for sale. If the Cardinals want it, they could trade up for it. Yeah. But it’s going to be like a Bears Panthers package, right? For sure. You could get like even as it stands right now, what are they? You said they’re seventh. No, they’re 10th. They’re 10th, but they’re all these teams are separated by a game. So, it doesn’t and they and these teams play each. Let me go through. The real like them getting in the top five. It’s probably pretty tough. That’s separated from a game. So, they have the same winning uh uh not win percentage, but they have the same uh number of wins as the ninth team Cincinnati. Mhm. Falcons, which is the Rams, dear God, at eight. But the they play a bunch of shitty teams. Washington 3-8, Vegas at 2-7, the Jets at 2 and eight, New Orleans at 2 and8, the J Giants at 2-9, Cleveland at 2 and eight, and then Tennessee at 1-9. I mean, like, if the Cardinals lose out, there’s a chance they could have a top three pick. Are they winning another game? If the players quit, they’re not going to win another game. They’re three. They’re the They’re the three and seven. They have the highest strength of schedule, unfortunately. But I I think they’re getting in the top five. How are they not getting in the top five? How are they What? But then you still have to to get up that high to one. Oh, why? I don’t need Mendoza. Give me one of these other guys. Give me one of these other slappies. Dante Moore, Ty Simpson, Mendoza. Those guys are going to be top picks. Ty Simpson give you a bunch of confidence. Talk to me in April. Let’s see it. Let’s see us at Hila. Die for Tai or whatever it is. I don’t whatever our slogan’s gonna be. I would die for Ty Simpson. It’s a bit dramatic. They’re gonna they’re gonna I watched him play Oklahoma. I wouldn’t die for that guy. Oh, this is sad. Moaz Cards fan 199. Guys, thoughts on Spagnalo uh to leave Kansas City. Steve Spagnolo. No thanks. He was the Rams head coach way back when. Didn’t go very well. No thanks. Great defensive coordinator though. I like Robert Salah. He’s got a little bit more juice, a little bit more cache. Plus, he’s already been a head coach. I guess specul was a head coach like it feels like decades ago that in the Edward Jones dome. He was before Fiser, right? Right. He was in the Edward Jones dome. Stephen Jackson, Miles Johnson. I’d rather get K1 another shot with a new head coach due to the quarterback market for 2026. A very popular response right now. And listen, I think I’m gonna shoot it with you, Miles. I think the damage is done with the GM and the and the quarterback. That is my understanding. I think but you’re not wrong in thinking that. Like, hey, get a a really competent OC in here. You got a quarterback who has shown to have some juice, but I this is going to be the most chaotic bat, you know what off season? Cuz there’s no security for anybody and there’s a chance Black Monday everybody could stay or everybody could go. Kyler Murray, what’s going to happen with him? Like make an argument that offseason is going to be a hell of a lot more entertaining than whatever the hell we’re watching right now. Yeah, you you have a potential coaching search, quarterback trade, quarterback search, draft, free agency mixed in there. Oh man, Jonathan QB market helps K1 trade. I think it does 100%. 100%. Uh, Dazzm Good said, “Ty Simpson is okay, but I’d rather take a second round quarterback like Sawyer Robertson. Sign a quarterback free agency be a trade.” The free agent quarterbacks are hell. They are so so bad. Matty Ice wants to get Bellich off from the house in condition of what is it? Uh, we win a Super Bowl in four years, but is he bringing Jordan? Do we do we get Jordan his girlfriend? Is that a package? I’m trying to win games. I don’t want old man Bell. Trade for Joe Burrow. I Theo I think that’s So any quarterback that you like that’s signed his deal after Kyler Murray like that deal is kicking in and the money the dead money that the team that would be trading that quarterback would have to endure is too high. Here’s a I’ll give you a quarterback from like Burrow to Tua to Trevor Lawrence. Like all those guys, not saying that they’ll be traded, but like their dead money is so problematic that I don’t think you could even fathom it. I’ll give you a quarterback. Send Kyler to his home state of Texas. Package picks CJ Strad from Houston back to Arizona. Straoud’s had two bad years in a row after a phenomenal rookie season. There’s no chance they would do that. But that’s the extreme example. It’s like you give up your top pick plus Kyler Murray plus another pick for CJ Strad. And I mean, the only thing you could hope is that the negotiations, because this is the offseason that that happens for quarterback deals, goes so far that publicly it forces a divorce. Green guy Castro K1’s contract is untradeable. It is not. It’s got one-year guarantees left. 2026 is big money. Then they can go year-toear with him. So, the team that would take him would take on like the 37 million in guarantees. You would get hit with the dead money on that. But as far as quarterback deals, that that’s also middle of the road. You can cut him for nothing the next two years. It’s it’s actually a very appeal. It’s a one-year deal. It’s very appealing to teams and then you have built-in options after that. Mo, he can’t because Dak is right there. Like the new money on his contract makes his contract untradeable. like he’s like a hund00 million dollars in dead money. Jaylen saying if I’m Kyler, I’m making a release me so I can pick my destination. That’s the worst of all realities. Then then then you’re then you should just keep him and play him because theoretically Bo and I have been on the same page with this. That no quarterback you’re going to get from the jump is going to be better than Kyler Murray. But this this regime then has dug its own hole because they had a mini feud with him during the year and they’ve put him on IR and now it’s like are those people like I what are the chances Monty Austin Ford gets fired because you got Kyle Odigar going on Twitter saying goodbye Monty goodbye JG I think there’s a zero chance Monty Osford gets fired zero% chance it’s close to zero I mean the way things are trending I don’t think anything’s out of the question but fair yeah I agree with like our earlier conversation where I don’t think Bidwell wants to clean house again three years later after Kim unceremoniously resigns and he has to blow Cliff out and then start from scratch again. I don’t think he wants to do that. So I agree. I think if uh if anybody’s retained who has the best chance, I think it’s Monty and then I would say JG and then I would say Kyler. Agreed. Uh $2 from Brian Feno in round one. lol. Uh, interior offensive line in round two, Sawyer Robertson round three, Baylor quarterback. I don’t hate that, but again, are you playing with Jacobe Versettle next year? I mean, almost feels I mean, Jacobe Versett is going to put up a lot of like empty calorie numbers here in the second half of this year, but like going to battle in this division. I’m only rolling with Jacobe Verset as my opening day starter if I draft a rookie quarterback high and they need a couple starts or something like what they did with Russell Wilson with the Giants this year. But Monty Osenford is going to have to win games. I Here’s the here’s the problem for Ganon. What What head coach has come into a situation and had a record as bad as he has that had that got a fourth year? I don’t have those numbers in front of me. I I can’t imagine it’s ever happened where it’s like you you don’t have a winning season. You’re going to have two double-digit loss seasons bookending a nine loss season. You’re going to have two last place finishes. your your trajectory looks worse at the end of year three. What co what coaches have been given a fourth year after that? I don’t know if it’s ever happened. I can’t in my adult life. I can’t think of it. Yeah, it’s it’s tough to to fathom that it’s happened within the last I’m not trying to be a jerk either. Like I’m Daniel had as bad as the last two plus seasons. He got blown out this year, but his first year he was a playoff and playoff win team. Like you you go what were they four and 13? Four and 13. Yeah. Eight and nine. Mhm. Let’s I’m going to say four and 13 again. Or five and 12. Let’s say five and 12. I’ll give them two wins. Five and 12. Four and 13. Eight nine. I mean, what? What coach gets to keep their job after that? I don’t know. It’s really disappointing. No coach is getting that grace. I I also think like Monty Austin Ford h is going to have pressure on him. I think this is what a lot of people are discounting to win next year. I like keeping Monty around from that standpoint. Like I I do think if you get another general manager, it’s like who are you gonna leaprog in the division? you you San Francisco, you better you better target somebody. I mean, if you if your solid move, you know. Oh, I think Oh, I you’re laughing at that. I think Robert Salah could overtake Kyle Shanahan in a year. Sure, he could. Kyle Shanahan, they were terrible last year. They were awful. Then Robert Solace saved his job. Come on, Bo. Saved his job. I watched them fire Ganon. They don’t even interview Salah. I’m going to flip and break my laptop. Would Robert Solid take an interview with the Cardinals? I think he would at this point. I think too. Like if you’re a defensive head coach, you’re not turning down interviews. No one looks defeated. You all right, bud? It’s tough on these Cardinal streets, huh? Welcome to hell. Uh, we’re going to keep you locked into everything. Taco Corp. Cliff got extended on the decline. I I’d count that. No, but he won 11 games. Went to the playoffs. Yeah. And every year was better. It was he was five he was 510 and one then he was eight and eight or whatever it was. Yeah. And then he was 11 and 11 and five and then lost in the playoffs to the Super Bowl champ. I like the extension at the time because I was like, “Okay, well are they just going to be a competitive team every year?” And then they became the laughingtock of the NFL. The problem for Ganon is Ganon has not shown to be a competitive head coach. like you cannot they’re not competitive in the MFC West now. Um trying to find I’m looking through all the teams with coaches. Yeah. And if anybody’s held on No one through that much losing because what what did Campbell win his first year, Noah? He went 313 and one and then they won nine games the next year. Yes. Nine and eight and then they became the juggernaut. But but there was a they started slow and they were losing like walk-off field goals of like 60 yarders, but there was fight there. Then they played the Cardinals and Cliffs last year and beat the hell out of them. And then you could see this happening and that continued into the next year. Th this is Ganon. And now it’s we’ve crashed and burned. It’s like that scene from Tommy Boy with the car on the table and it’s just the car is on fire. Like that’s that’s puking his guts out. New coach in the back puking his guts out after that kickoff return. New special teams coach in the back. Put you on the spot. Somebody get fired tomorrow. We get Does Ganon walk up to the the press conference and say we’ve made a change? I’m going to give you my answer then I want yours. Okay. I think yes. I think when he’s telling us he’s telling the world unprompted that he talked to Michael Bidwell before the press conference. Someone’s getting fired tomorrow. I don’t unless it’s Drew in my opinion is a big nothing burger. Drew I think sends a message. Everybody else is blah. Does somebody get fired tomorrow? I think we’ve reached the point where somebody gets fired tomorrow. 8544 in two weeks. Who’s the most likely candidate? Rogers. You think special team? I I think he’s got too much cache here. Yeah, I think somebody like Justin Fry might be the sacrificial coach tomorrow. You think Drew makes it to the end of the year? Not No, not with performances like this. Pine, you think Pine gets fired before the end of the year? Um, I think Pine I think Pine’s safe to the end of the year. I don’t think he’s getting fired. Teflon. I think Gan I think Ganon wants his coordinators till the end. Jay, are you getting fired tomorrow? If it is, it’s news to me. I’m gonna go meet with Espo right after the show. I’m going to go sit and have a conversation. That’s why it took us a while to get on air. Johnny had to go talk with our GM Espo. 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For the second straight week in the NFC West, the Arizona Cardinals QUIT in embarrassing no-effort loss against the San Francisco 49ers. What’s the future of HC Jonathan Gannon and OC Drew Petzing? Is Jacoby Brissett starting the rest of the season over Kyler Murray? Will Drew Petzing or Justin Frye be fired? What’s the latest with Michael Wilson, Marvin Harrison Jr. and Trey McBride.

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0:00 Intro
2:00 Fallout of the Arizona Cardinals
10:45 Super Chats!
16:45 Michael Wilson HUGE game
19:30 More Super Chats!
30:15 Coaching staff changes?
34:30 Counting Cards
39:00 Even more Super Chats!
45:30 By the Numbers
47:00 Additional Super Chats!
52:30 Play of the game
56:00 Final Super Chats!
1:03:00 Coaching candidates
1:14:00 JK Final Supers Chats!

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