BLACKHAWKS POSTGAME: Kraken Top Blackhawks Despite Bertuzzi’s 2-Point Performance | CHGO Blackhawks
The Blackhawks lose 3-2 to the Seattle Kraken and we have a ton to talk about. Join us next on the CHDL Blackhawks postgame show. [Music] [Applause] [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] [Music] Welcome into the CHTO Blackhawks postgame podcast presented by Bet365. Download the bet 365 app. Use our code choo365 when you sign up whatever the moment. It’s never ordinary at Bet 365. I’m Jay Zawaskki. That’s Greg Bson. Sarah and Khloe are here. Mario’s back at the UC gathering postgame audio. He’ll join us in about 20 minutes, half hour or so. Hawks lose 3-2 to the Seattle Kraken. And there are so many storylines to get to and we’re going to, but first want to remind you to hit that like button. Make sure you are subscribed to the YouTube page as well. And if you’re listening on the podcast later on, we love you. Make sure you’re following or subscribed on your favorite app. Let’s just get right to it. Greg, this was their best 40 minutes of the year. Yes. The first two periods were great. Yes. And then they start the third period not ready to go. And we’re going to talk about the referees who play a role in this game. But this was a team loss. This is a team that fell apart in the third period. Penalties be damned. Bad calls be damned. At one point they’re getting outshot 12 to one in a game they had well under control for 40 minutes. This team needs to learn the lesson. And maybe this is what it’s going to take because there’s been a couple games lately where they haven’t played well and they’ve gotten wins. Maybe it takes a painful loss like this to get the message of, hey, you’re feeling good about yourselves and that’s great, but you are not good enough to coast for 20 minutes against any team in this league. That is the story of this game. Do not get it twisted. The Hawks choked this game away today. Yes, the uh nonall then call on Bard. Terrible sequence. Yes, 100%. Uh but the not they stopped skating in the third period. The the way they played in the third period as a whole is far more egregious than that last sequence cuz it should have never gotten to that point. The game shouldn’t have been 2-2 there. Yeah, the Kraken scored a couple of Kraken goals. Yeah, weird deflection deflection goals. Sure through screens, but that’s what they’ve done all season. That’s what their team does. They don’t have the speed and dynamic forwards that the Blackhawks do. They grind out their goals. They played their game the third period. It’s like the Blackhawks switch the second and third period tonight. Yeah, they usually they stink in the second and then they dominate the third. They flip that tonight. But you you’re coming off, look at these numbers. Second period, the Blackhawks at five on five had a 76 75.8% Corsy for percentage. uh 75.3 sorry they had 29 shot attempts to the Krakens nine. They had 11 scoring chances to the Krakens one. Yep. And then the third period the Kraken had an 85.7% Corsy for five on five. Four scoring chances. Blackhawks had zero scoring chances in the third period at five on five unless you count the Bard. Yeah. But, you know, I mean, technically, I guess that was a score, but whatever. That’s the story. The ref blew it at the end. 100%. Should have been a slash on Bard. Yes. Absolutely 100%. Correct. Does Bernard need to react the way he did while the game the puck is still in play in a tie game with four minutes? Probably not. Say your piece. Skate on by. Get back in the game. Let the head coach handle it at the next whistle. What ticked me off even more after that was at the next stoppage they had the camera on Jeff Blow. He’s calling Justin Kia over there. He didn’t even go over there. He sent his partner over there to talk to him. Yeah. If you’re going to make a bad call, own it. Go take your tongue lashing. Yeah. But you won’t even go talk to Jeff Blaso. That’s garbage. Well, and and look like you’re right. Bard should not have while the play is happening stayed he could Oh, come on. Ref bat and start busting. I mean, I don’t think it helped that like he when he turned around, he was literally right with the guy right in his face. I mean, that might have had something to do with it. Maybe the ref felt threatened. I don’t know. It’s it was a garbage call. Garbage mis call. Garbage call on Bard. I’m more upset to the fact that the game was 2-2 at that point. It shouldn’t have been, right? The way they dominated that second period, they came out in the third period, took their foot off the gas, they assumed victory, and got owned in the third period. To me, that should be more upsetting than that whole final sequence. As bad as that was. It should never have decided. They shouldn’t have been in a a point where something like that could decide the game. The game should have been over at that point. Yeah, we we’re being called pessimistic idiots in the chat, which is fine. If you want just like pom poms and us throwing stuff cuz, oh, the refs screwed the Blackhawks. That’s not what happened. Watch the game. The Hawks screwed themselves. And yes, there was a moment where they got screwed. But here’s the thing. In hockey, in sports, there’s a term called makeup call where if a reflects on a call and says, “Yeah, you know what? Looking back on that, I probably should have called something there.” And I’ll get as soon as I get an opportunity to make it right, I’ll make it right. It happens all the time. It happens. How many times have we Hawk fans like, “There’s a makeup call.” A ref got in trouble for literally admitting that to a reporter. Yes. Exactly. Like that happens. But if you are in the ref’s face pleading at him, yelling at him, and again, I’m not a lip reader, but from what I saw, what said it was nothing too bad. It’s like like, “Come on, you got to call that. That’s brutal.” Or something along those lines. I think he said, “You got to be effing kidding.” But you’re not going to get a makeup call when you get in the face of the referee. Let the coach handle it. Jeff Blashel, if he’s proven anything through the his time as head coach, is that he can handle it. And look, we just got done over the last handful of games, especially the last game, praising Conor Bedard for his leadership. That was a moment that when you talk to him tomorrow, whenever he gets to talk again, when he’s cooled off cuz he’s still steamed in the post game, which is great. I’m glad he’s fiery. Upon reflection, that is something he has to learn to let the coach handle. It is not up. You’ve never like Jonathan TA was famous for going palms up on the ref, but that was it. He never got in the face or scream. Maybe after the whistle, after the penalty been called and he’s on his way to the box, then you get your extra word in there. While the play’s going on in a tie game, Conor Bernard’s responsibility is get back and defend, not get in the rest face pleading for a call. He’s not going to change his mind in that moment. Oh, you know what? You know, you convinced me. Arm goes up. No, that’s not how it goes. It was a bad moment for Bard in a game he played great. And look, while this team is overachieved this year, these are lessons that a young team, be it Connor Baddard, Ryan Green, Frank Nazar, Arm Lechov, whoever, have to learn at the NHL level. And this Kraken loss is going to be a massive teaching moment for Jeff Lash and his staff. I’m going to be very, very interested to see how this team comes out tomorrow. You got a game tomorrow. Kick Buffalo’s ass. You’re going to Buffalo, who is one of the worst teams in the league. again. Go up there and just win that game. Go out and win 7 nothing. Take your anger out on the on the poor Buffalo Sabres tomorrow night. Go out there and play all three periods. That whole situ that whole situation sucked. I’m glad Conor Bard’s mad after the game. Yeah, me too. I’m glad Jeff Blash pissed. That That was such a weak call. But I’m more taking your foot off the gas and not playing for an entire period to me is far more offensive. I totally agree with that because this team isn’t they’re not the 2013 Blackhawks where you could play 20 minutes and beat still beat a team by three goals. So hopefully, you know, this is one of those, okay, this maybe this team needed to get knocked down a peg or two. Maybe they needed to, you know, realize, okay, not everything’s going to be easy. We’re not as good as we think we are right now. Sure, we had a six-game point streak. Things are going well. We’re in a playoff spot. Doesn’t mean crap on November 20th. No, it does not. It’s just it’s just so aggravating because you, you and I both were so ready to jump on this show and be like, what a performance. And this team has gotten to the point now where they can dominate a Seattle’s a playoff team where they can dominate a playoff team and walk away with a win where in the last 3 minutes or victory formation and you’re feeling great about stuff. This would have been one of the best wins of the year and one of those ones where you can say, “Hey, we’re a week away from Thanksgiving officially. The Hawks just took two more points from a playoff team that they dominated for 60 minutes.” Instead, they let the foot off the gas and they let the game get away from them. Like we said before that Bard moment, shots were 12 to one for the Kraken. Yeah, that can’t happen, right? And Oliver Moore said it in the first period. They don’t do much. That’s what he said about the Kraken. He didn’t mean it insultingly, but he just said like they’re just kind of a low event team, right? And you’re that you’re getting outshot 12 to one in one period by the Kraken. Nope. This has to be a learning lesson for the Blackhawks. I’m confident it will be because if anything, this coaching staff has earned our trust early on in the game. Uh, GI Joe 3211 says, “Are you going to address the miss icing, the soft calls on Nazarv?” Yes, of there are there are things happen in the course of the game where referees make mistakes. It happens in every NHL game. Calls get missed, icings get missed, offside calls get blown. It happens all the time. Unfortunately, you can’t review icing. Don’t get outshot 12 to one. Right. You’re It’s not an icing call that lost this game. It’s not the refs and the bad calls they made throughout the night did not cause the Blackhawks to stop moving their feet in the third period. Correct. Yes. Like it’s Yes. The refs tonight, but the Blackhawks lost cuz they played like ass in the third period. And I assure you when Jeff when Jeff Flashel speaks after the game, he is not going to say, “Well, we got screwed.” He’s not. He’ll have complaints about it and say, “Uh, you know, I think that was a mis call. I’ll talk to the league, whatever he’s going to do.” But make no mistake, listen, Hawks fans, we have suffered through 3 years of ass hockey that didn’t matter cuz it was a battle for it was a battle for draft position and it was a battle for the best whatever, right? And you want to play the kids and you got these bridge veterans. It don’t matter. These games matter. They’ve put themselves in a spot where games matter. So, let yourself get upset with them when they underperform. Let yourself feel upset after a game. And don’t blame the refs. They played a role. 100%. There’s no doubt about it. But the refs are an issue in every game. The NHL refering is famously awful. It’s really bad this year. Like we’ve seen it, we’ve seen it a lot against the Hawks this And how many times on Twitter have we said I would say if I think this play is offside or if that’s interference but I have no clue what calls are anymore because it’s so muddy. Officiating is awful and it was tonight but but it’s not just in Blackhawks games. It’s around the league. Yes. Don’t let Look at that. Look at that. That goal Tae Thompson got taken off the other night there with that leg. It’s bad around the league. Uh and the Listen to that. But the refereeing did not cause the Blackhawks to stop skating in the third period, right? Yes, they missed an icing call. You know, should there have been a penalty on the Burkovski play? We’ll probably get that in more depth after the breaks on that for sure. Probably. Um, you know, the the Nazar call wasn’t great. Um, behind the, you know, you never want to take penalties behind, you know, the opponent’s goal line. That’s not a place for that. All those things happened when the Blackhawks were dominating the game and winning two to nothing. Yep. And then the third period started and they stopped skating. Their best attribute, the thing that makes them where they are in the standings right now, the thing that separates them from almost every other team in the league, they stopped doing it. Yeah. Not because of a bad call. Yes, the bad call sucked. Yes, that whole scenario was terrible. The mis call, Bard’s reaction, and a penalty that, you know, come on. We’ve seen Conor McDavid do a lot worse than that. Not get called, of course. But Bard’s not at that level right now. We’ve seen guys berate referees all the time and not get called. So, I don’t know why all of a sudden in that moment of that game that needs to be called. That’s a bad call, but the game was already they had already blown the game at that point there. Listen, hear what we’re saying. That call sucked. The timing of it sucked. It was unnecessary. Everything about it sucked. But, however, you know what I mean? Like, he’s got to keep playing. And, uh, Tim Evans in our chat said, “Nick Fina would never get called for complaining like that.” Nick Fino wouldn’t complain in that way. He would if Nick Fo got a breakaway, that’d be a story. And and he gets flashed and they don’t call it, he’s going to continue playing and when the whistle blows, then he gives the referee an airfall on his way to the box. And referees are pretty lenient with that. They’ll let you do that. Blow off your steam, go sit in the box, slam your stick, spike the water bottle, whatever you want to do. You can’t do it while the puck is in play. You can’t. And Conor Bernard is one of the league superstars, but what we have seen over the last few years with him, fair or unfair, not a great reputation with the referees yet. Has a bit of a reputation as a whiner, is a complainer. And you know how this league works. It’s not right, but it is what it is. You got to earn your you’ve got to earn the call. It’s stupid. It’s one of the dumbest things about hockey, but it’s real. It is reality, and it’s something that he’s going to have to learn. And as the years go on, he will get those calls. It’s going to happen for him. But to blame this solely on the referees, I promise you, the Blackhawks themselves, the players want you to think of them the way you think of the Bears or the Bulls or the Cubs or the Socks. They don’t want you to treat them like a pee-wee football team or or a pee-wee hockey team. Be like, “Yay, you guys played really good and just so stinky refs got you.” No, the Blackhawks lost this game on their own. That is the story of this game. We will get a little more granular on the Burkovsky play, some of the other things coming up next. We got a bunch of super chats we want to get to as well. Do us a favor, please hit the like button for us. Make sure you are subscribed to our YouTube page. 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Brunt Workware. Our listeners get $10 off their entire order with code cho at checkout. That’s bruntwork.com. Use our code cho. Order today and let them know you heard it here on our show. Um, some quotes coming from the locker room. We’ll probably Yeah. Do we have any uh postgame video ready to go? Let’s Yeah. You want to Should we hear from Connor? I mean, based on what’s being thrown out there. All right. Let’s Let’s hear from Connor Bard. Um Yeah. Yeah. fired up. Yeah. Um, you know, I obviously in the moment you think things penalty, but I got to control our emotions in a better way and um, you know, I put our team in a vulnerable spot there. So, um, yeah, I just got to be better. What did you say? Next question. Sorry, I don’t want to be rude, but I’m not going to I’m not going to say. Was it that you turned around the second or third time, maybe got it? Uh, you got to ask him. Um, I don’t know. Uh, probably. Yeah. Just what happened with that whole third period? It just seemed that you guys have been very good in the third period. You had a great second and then things like they turned. Uh yeah, I think um you know they had a push and we didn’t Yeah, we didn’t skate like we did in the second. Um you know, I thought our second was was great. It was the best period and you know, we really took it to them and um we kind of got away from that a little bit. So uh you know, we got to be better there in some situations. you guys play ball for them tomorrow because does it kind of help to kind of have to immediately put a game like this behind you and focus on the next one? I think so. Um, obviously it’s a big one tomorrow. We kind of let that one slip away and uh with you know how tight everything is. You know, it’s a that’s one we can’t really lose. So, um you know, we obviously have to go in there tomorrow and uh give a good effort. On that break, did you feel like you got your hands or or did you feel the conflict? Uh yeah. Yeah. I mean, uh, I haven’t watched it or anything, but yeah, in the moment, you thought so, but who knows? Is it hard to restrain yourself? I mean, obviously, you kind of feel that like that’s such a kind of big moment in the game as well. Uh, yeah, but in the end, you know, we’re professionals. I’m a professional and I got to, you know, have a better response there, uh, when that doesn’t go my way. So, um, you know, uh, just learn from it and, uh, don’t let it happen again. This is a learning moment then for you? Yeah, I think so. Uh, you know, I think, you know, it’s a competitive game. You know, everyone’s going to get frustrated, but, uh, just knowing time and place and, you know, some that that ultimately lost this game. So, uh, you know, can’t do that. Tough to lose for a call two period. We’ll find out what’s going on, but tough to go two periods for them. For sure. Um, especially a hit like that. Uh, you know, I think I don’t know. It’s back toback games. guy’s going right right to the head and uh nothing nothing really happens. Um so yeah, I mean I think that’s you know it sucks. He’s a great player and that’s something that you know it’s he swore uh he said the BS word. Yeah. Yes. We can’t have that kind of language on the fast channel. By the way, that’s what we’re talking about. That is leadership. That is your young star at the end of the game saying, “I’m a professional and I have to have a better response there when it doesn’t go my way. I’ve got to control my emotions in a better way. I put our team in a vulnerable spot there.” Correct. That is what we are saying. Both things can be true. Yes, the refs sucked and Bark could be better in that situation. Both things could be true. 100%. Um, so yeah, good to see that, you know, he’s uh he’s upset but also realizes that, yeah, we kind of did this to ourselves, too. A lot of the same things we just been talking about for the last 20 plus minutes. Um, but it is nice for a change of pace to be as a collective whole here upset about a loss. um for some for different reasons. You know, it it’s nice to have a little disagreement uh about why things fell apart because that means this game matters. We haven’t had a game matter in a long time. Um so hopefully tomorrow you get the response you want to see because if you don’t get two points in Buffalo and you get zero points out of these back-to-back games, that’s not not ideal. not ideal. So hopefully we get that response. We see these guys uh you know angry a bit and on a mission and they go out and they dominate for 60 full minutes tomorrow and they’re going to have to do it without Andre Burkovski. Yeah. Um there is a chance that we look back on this game in a month or two months and or three months and say maybe that loss was a bit of a blessing in disguise or the other way. you know, we you don’t want this to get things or they miss the playoff by two points other you don’t want this to lead to like okay you go into Buffalo and you lose to Buffalo and then Colorado’s in town on Sunday and all of a sudden you got a three-game losing streak and you’re facing adversity for the real first time with this particular group. That’s why winning in Buffalo tomorrow is very important. That is essential. Um we should since everyone’s mad at us already anyway, we should probably get to the Burkovski hit. Um, do we got those uh stills I sent in? Um, yes. I got to say, and uh I I hate that he’s hurt. Bl said he will miss uh tomorrow’s game against Buffalo. Um could Lingren have softened the hit a little bit? Probably. But Burksy’s got to have his head up. Like that is if anything, you can call a penalty on Schwarz there for tripping. Yeah. I mean, Lingren is one of those guys that always seems to walk that fine line and you know, like a Jacob Trouba, like some of these other guys where the second he sees a guy get in a vulnerable position, he pounces and that’s what he did. Um, but yeah, Burkovsky had his head down and became susceptible. He drilled him right in the head, which is never good, right? Um, but at while with that play going, you know, it happened so fast, do I think Lingerin purposely went out there to hit him in the head? No. Burkovski got himself in a pos in a vulnerable position or put in a vulnerable position and he pounced and he hit him square in the head. Yeah. Had he not stumbled, he would have got hit square in the chest, right? Yeah. I mean, Burkowski is bent at the hips and his head is leading. You surprised there was no call. Usually I mean a guy gets hit in the head, his helmet comes flying off. You should call something there. I’m a little more surprised. He didn’t have to answer for that. Yeah, they were on the power play. So I got maybe in the moment happened in the first period. You had 40. Yeah, you had time. And there was a moment in the third season. There was a moment late where Murphy went after him a little bit behind the net and like hit him up like cross check. I mean, that’s when you need your your Louis KVY or Colton Doc, the next shift he’s out there, you grab him and say, “Okay, you took one of our you have to take this beaten now. There’s got to be a that’s happened so many times this year to not have it happened tonight. That’s upsetting.” Yes, I agree. Um, but you know, maybe there was some karma at the very end there because Ryan Lingren took a shot right off the hand. I.e. like Nick Felino the other day and was hurt. So, you know, maybe maybe the karma gods came back and evened things out by the end of the night. Yeah, I hope so. I mean, cuz I really wanted to see. Look, whether you think the hits legal or fair or clean or dirty, whatever, every hit, you know, it feels like every hit where there’s contacted head, there’s going to be discussion about it. Um, you know, the expectation there, clean or dirty, whatever hit you’re talking about, there’s going to be a response. And I was like there was a moment I think the maybe the first shift after the power play Colton Doc was out on the ice. I was looking for Linger and he wasn’t out there and then Crevier was out there a few times and just it just never came to fruition. But I think at some point you’ve kind of got to go find 55 and yeah cash in that receipt. Yes, exactly. I was I like I I don’t know how Lingren can avoid the head when he’s coming at him with his head like poking at him like my dog does when he wants to eat like hey feed me nudging me with his head. Yeah. I mean his head was already at shoulder level as he started moving for the hit. Unfortunate result. Do I think he was targeting the head? No. Unfortunately that was the main that was the main point of contact and it didn’t look good. He probably could have softened it a little bit. Pulled up a little bit. easy for us to say, but like but his style of play is that guy that walks that line and especially when a guy gets in a position where he’s susceptible to a big hit, he’s going to take advantage of it. He’s done that his entire career. So, him making that play was no surprise. You know, seeing a guy’s helmet fly off and be down on the ice, you would think that would make an arm go up. I was surprised there was no call. But again, and you would think that would make a guy, but if what we’re learning about uh what’s his name? Key. Justin Keyi, is that he he fears the what he’s what Jeff Flash will call him. And I’m not going to put him on a five on three. That wouldn’t be fair. Well, I wouldn’t have even cared if you wiped out the rest of that power play because you jumped on his back and started pounding him into into goo. That’s the I wouldn’t have cared. That’s the thing. I It would have been four on four. Fine. Yeah. Message sent. You don’t do that to our players. Yeah, I was very disappointed that nothing happened. He didn’t have to he didn’t have to answer for that hit. Right. There’s got to be very surprised because this is especially from a team that’s done, you know, has backed each other up all season long. We saw from Krebier with with Nazar. We saw for Colton Doc with Nazar. Maybe they only like stick it up for Frank Nazar. I don’t know. But I’m I was surprised that Ryan Lingred did not have to fight, you know, have to answer for that. That that that was disappointing. Yeah, I’m sure that will be addressed in the video session as well. Could you just put the uh stills up again one more time um of Burkovski? Um and someone said like he wasn’t targeting his head. Well, he was What else is he going to hit? Look at the picture. Targeting the head is when Go back to the other one, Sarah. Targeting a head is when a guy is standing straight up and you go up and I mean his head is at shoulder length right there. It’s an unfortunate result. It’s borderline dirty. Yeah, he got hit in the head. He’s got hurt. He’s he Burkowski is watching his pass with his head down. That is like the number one thing you are taught as a young hockey player is to keep your head up and know where your surroundings are. Again, call the trip on Schwarz something. And David Garcia says, “I’m rage baiting.” If you’ve ever watched this show, we’ve been on the air for three freaking years. It’s not what we do here. No, I’m giving you my opinion. And if that was Conor Murphy laying out Jordan Everly, you’d have t-shirts printed of the hit by now. Don’t lie to yourselves. And now I’m a social justice warrior. Whatever. Because I didn’t. Because I didn’t think the hit was dirty. That doesn’t make sense. All right. We can’t play the video. Keraw05. We don’t have the rights to do that. All right. Um, we’re going to hear from Mario Tierbosi. He is standing by at the UC. We’ll also hear from Jeff Flash there. We have a lot of super chats to get to. We will get to them as well. Stick around back in 2 minutes on CHDO Blackhawks. And I need to pull my reads up here because my computer is jacking around. But I want to tell you about our new sponsor, Senorita THC Margaritas. Senorita is the full flavor THC margarita. That’s rewriting the rules of happy hour. Crafted by wine industry experts. Ooh, fancy. Senorita blends real fruit juice, organic Mexican agave, and a hint of pink salt for award-winning taste. With 5 milligrams or 10 milligs of fasting THC, every can delivers a smooth social buzz without the hangover. That is key. It’s non-alcoholic, real juice, fast onset THC. 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So, I’ll get I’ll get all that non the off-topic stuff uh out of the way. The second period was basically the best period of of hockey that the team has played in the in the middle frame this season, dominating uh Seattle and then it completely flipped on on its head on the third period. And Blashel kind of chalked up that to uh interestingly enough the start of the game. He said that at the start of the game they didn’t have uh enough guys ready to go as far as like you know the the adage that we’ve heard all season. It’s an every night league. Um to that effect he basically said like they didn’t have enough guys ready to go for for the game like ready you know from from puck drop. And that was evident in the first period because it really wasn’t a great period of hockey. You would have figured the Blackhawks the way they’ve been playing you know they’ve got some momentum going. They’ve got some good vibes going. So, you would have thought that they would have gotten off to a a better start against a team like the Kraken and then it it showed up in the second period. Um, but then second period and and and on the final 40 minutes of the game, you’re playing only with 10 forwards. Um, so I think as the third period went on, Seattle pushed the guys didn’t have the the the legs either from the start of the game and then carrying over into the third period and then you got tired guys out there. So, um, it just kind of breaks down slowly over the final, uh, 20 minutes of the game and then, of course, you know, the the the final four minutes of the game, the final sequence. Um, that’s a real backb breaker. But, uh, I mean, as far as the overall effort goes, I mean, you would have thought this team would be motivated um, against a Kraken team that, you know, just I don’t know what, 10 days ago, they played them on the road and outplayed them and lost 3-1. another night where I’d say overall you’d give the advantage to the Blackhawks tonight for the you know 60 minutes uh combined but when it mattered most Seattle was able to to come in and and steal this game and and the Hawks should I mean even down to 10 guys like you got to feel like this is two points slipping away and I know you guys kind of talked about it a little bit um you know if if we’re talking about playoff races we’re talking about meaningful games in in in March and April, two points against this Seattle team who now jumps you in the standings. Um that matters. So that’s um that’s a tough way to come away from this game. Yeah. And this is uh you know the 11 and seven thing. I’ve liked it. I think it’s worked. But this is now the fourth time. I think top my head Dickinson twice, Felino and now Barakovski leave the game early and you’re stuck with 10 for the majority of the game. AR game too in Calgary. Yeah. So, it’s a Yeah. I mean, obviously that probably shouldn’t happen that often. You would hope. You don’t go in there thinking, well, oh boy, I can’t, you know, but there’s still no one played like Connor Bard led all skaters. Is this updated? Yeah. With 21106, so no one had to like take on a ton of minutes all of a sudden. They were just kind of more evenly distributed. Yeah. I mean, this is the downside of the 11 and seven. You know, having to play with 10 forwards is definitely not something you want to do, but I don’t think you go into very many games thinking I’m going to lose a forward for two periods. And unfortunately, it’s happened a bunch of times already this season. Yeah. I mean, that’s that’s unfortunate and bad luck um to keep having it happen. And it seems like every time the Blackhawks get one of their guys back, you know, Tyler Puzzi comes in tonight and, you know, overshadowed by all this stuff is an amazing game from Tyler Pertusi, especially in that second period. But, you know, now Alex, you know, Barakovski, Andre Barkerovski is out. You know, Jason Dickinson, he’s close to coming back. It’s like they just can’t seem to get everybody going at the same time. Yeah. and and you know, Dickinson uh skate has been skating a lot, so maybe tomorrow he’s in in the lineup. We’ll we’ll have to see. But um you know, Landon Sligger didn’t play tonight, so they they have bodies that’ll fill in um for tomorrow’s game, but again, losing Bikoski the way that he’s been playing this season, like that that’s a that’s a tough blow. So hopefully it’s not a not a long-term thing um to be out with that. I mean, you guys heard it from from Connor. This is, you know, back-to-back games where you got Conor Murphy taking a hit to the head and there’s no penalty uh on the play called uh and then Burkovoski gets hit in the head uh and there’s no penalty on the play called and and honestly there’s no no answer from uh Lingren. Like that’s I I side with Connor. That’s BS. I and and I think we’ve seen this Blackhawks team stick up for for themselves and their teammates a lot this season. Um so I’m a little surprised that they didn’t just, you know, force the issue, so to say. Um but uh it’s it seems like there might may have been some um some uh refusal to uh to to oblige. I guess that to me that was the most surprising thing. I mean, anytime I had contacts made on a hit, there’s going to be a ton of discourse about it and it’ll be 50/50 depending on the fandom. But like again, if there was no and again, you’re on a power play, so maybe wait, take a number. They had a lot of time to take a number four over 45 minutes to get them back for that that one. And as I said earlier, I don’t care if you wipe out 45 seconds of a power play to defend your teammate, you do it. Well, and that’s that’s the thing is the the first guy to react is Tavo Terrain on the power play. Like you don’t have anybody out there that’s going to go up to Ryan Lingren and give him a what four. That’s that’s worth anything, you know? So, I think I think in that in that instance, you’re probably thinking don’t give up the power play. Um, and you don’t have I mean, who else is out there? Terrain. uh Nazar Badar like none of those guys you’re going to you’re going to want to drop the glove. So um yeah to not have anything and it was at the end of the period too right like there’s two minutes left in the period um you know so Lingren probably leaves the ice and doesn’t come back on but even still I like like you guys like anytime I saw Colton do out there I would have figured okay so you know try and match him up with Lingren but um just didn’t happen. Let’s hear from um Oh, go ahead, Greg. No, I was just gonna say maybe, you know, you’re down 10 forwards. You probably, you know, there’s that conscious. We don’t want to have nine forwards for at least five minutes, possibly 17 if you get an instigator. But you got seven defenseman, send one of the defenseman. Yeah. You know, uh plenty of guys that can handle it. It’s just it was, you know, it was surprising uh especially the way they’ve been all season. Yep. Uh let’s hear from head coach Jeff Blashel on the uh the Bur Burkovski situation and then we’ll uh then we can after that dig into the Bard stuff. A very eventful game. So this is what um uh Blashel said after the game regarding Burkovski not playing tomorrow and what he saw on the play. Uh he won’t play tomorrow. Um so we’ll see uh moving on beyond that, but he won’t play tomorrow. Just go ahead. Did you see anything on on that hit? Uh actually just watched it. Uh yeah, I mean honestly uh he doesn’t have the puck and he gets hit square in the head like of all the stuff that was called tonight. Uh uh he gets he doesn’t have the puck. He never had the puck like he had the puck up in the air. I guess if that can you know I mean if he passed that puck and stared at his pass I get it. The puck’s up in the air and doesn’t have the puck. It’s not even close to him and he gets it directly mid. I’m trying to read into his demeanor on the bur like he’s not going to play. I don’t know. I don’t know him well enough to be able to read into the severity thing. We probably don’t know yet. And concussions if it is a concussion, we don’t know this to be clear. No, those are there’s no way to tell how long those are going to last. No, it’s not a set timetable. So hopefully, you know, I if that’s what he is, he does the goes through the protocols and responds well and we’ll see what happens. But, you know, that’s that’s the main key here is is, you know, hopefully this isn’t too serious for Berkovski, who’s been very good this year, been a great fit on this team on that top power play on that top line. And, uh, unfortunately, this has been that was his, uh, biggest issue his last couple years in Seattle was dealing with the injuries. So, hopefully this doesn’t send him down that path. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he’s been playing on a on a career best uh pace to to begin the season. Um so, yeah, you we know for sure it’s not it’s it’s not tomorrow. It’s not going to happen. But hopefully, um hopefully it’s not a long-term thing. Um just, you know, for his health obviously, uh first and foremost, but also because you know how important and how well he’s been playing, how important he’s been to the team. So, um, yeah, and and and you know, on the hit, like it’s again, like he’s he’s not in control, uh, of the puck. Clearly, it’s, you know, it’s it’s a puck battle. It’s going up in the air. He’s trying to find it. And, um, you know, Lingren just kind of tease him up in a in a vulnerable spot. And um I I think to to not have a call on that uh especially the it’s you know the next game after Conor Murphy’s uh hit which again like you know he’s clearing a puck he changes levels but it’s it’s it’s a hit right into the head and nothing happens like I I I got to imagine um the Blackhawks are feeling some extreme frustration that that’s happened twice. Uh and um there’s been no penalties called. I’d imagine maybe an email, strongly worded email is going to go to the league office from uh from Kyle Davidson’s desk, but we’ll see. I don’t know. There might be a knock on the referee’s door tonight. Um, you know, hey, I’ve seen it. I’ve seen it in the AHL level. I’m sure it happens in the NHL level. I’ve seen AHL general managers go into their ref room after a game and get their 10 cents worth. So, yeah, you never know. I I just we say this after every controversial play and there’s been a lot of them this year. A lot of this could be solved, but the refs had to face the media or face questioning after a tough play. Other leagues do it. I you know, I get that they’re going to I get that they’re going to protect the referees, but like that’s the stuff that frustrates fans more than anything is feeling like we get no explanation. We just got to sit here and take it. That’s incredibly frustrating. Well, it’s like it’s it’s instances like these. Um, and then it’s the, you know, the reviews and everything that we’ve been subjected to so far this season. Like, it’s it’s been a rough go. And I Yeah, there’s I mean, it’s the NHL. Like, do do you expect things to change or or or get better or be different? Probably not. But probably worse, actually. Yeah. But um yeah, it’s just it’s starting to feel es especially since games now feel there’s more weight to them. Each point is matters more as we move on with this Blackhawks team and in this season. Um you you can’t let things like like that like go and if honestly like you have to have a team mentality and I think these guys will figure it out. You know they’re a lot of them are young in their careers but the veterans can can say it too. the refs aren’t going to, you know, be the ones to to have your back in those situations, then, you know, the the the policing the game themselves kind of thing needs to uh needs to occur. So, we’ll see how the team responds moving forward um in those situations, but I I I hope this is a game where they they kind of maybe perk up their ears and say, “Look, if you know, we’re we’re pushing against teams that are are right square with us.” you know, the the the gap in the in the league, you know, is is not wide. What is it, like nine points is the difference between first and last in the Eastern Conference. You know, the Western Conference is isn’t that far away. Alex Flask was talking about it this morning. There’s like the difference of two points between, you know, where the Hawks are at right now and the and the bottom of the West. Like, you know, it it’s it’s not it’s not a wide gap. So each game is going to matter. So you can’t be letting these these things um make the difference. All right. What else do we hear from uh from Blash after this one? Uh he did talk about the sequence at the end of the game with Bard on the breakaway um and what uh what he saw, what he did and did not hear. Um so this what he had to say about all that. Well, it’s a penalty, you know, so like that’s where like we got to control we can control, but it’s when I walk in the room and and uh and see like when you don’t have position of the guy and you put your stick in there and you hit his glove, which he did. Yes, he got the stick after, but he he the first contact was on his glove. That’s a penalty. It’s a penalty. And then, you know, like I don’t uh I don’t know what was said. Better have been really really really really personal to to uh to be that sensitive about it cuz you’re deciding games. So, if if it was super personal, I wasn’t there. I don’t know. But it better have been really really really personal if you’re not going to have enough thick skin to just keep playing through it. I mean, he’s right. There’s there’s no question it was a penalty and there’s no question that it was an overreaction by the referees. Yes, absolutely. By the referee. Sorry, Justin Key. Um, it’s just And we saw somewhat lip reading. It was nothing that bad. At least nothing came. You know the words that are deeply personal that he’s talking about. You can see those on TV because Jeff Flashel had one of his own for the referee. Jeff Blash said it uh when Justin Kia wouldn’t go over there to talk to him talking about his cat apparently. Um and there might have been some sounds from Conor Bard, but he’s frustrated. He’s had the game on his stick and they took that away from him and it should have been a P. There’s no doubt about it. Um, I don’t He’s Look, I like what Bashel has to say. I I got I got no beef with it at all. He’s right. It’s It sucks. And as we’re sort of rehashing all these things that have happened to the Hawks this year, it is odd. It’s a It’s often It’s often that they’re on the wrong side of really questionable things happening. Yeah, it’s it’s super frustrating and that’s probably led, you know, I don’t think Bard’s reaction to that was just because of that missed call. I think it was a culmination of some of the things that’s gone on over the past few games and earlier in this year. I think he just had enough of like what do we got to do here? Um, but you know, we we’ve said all season that this team is different. We’ve we’ve said many times that, you know, things have happened within the course of a game that last year’s team or the team from two or three years ago would have fallen apart in a game. Let’s see if this holds true for losing a game like this. The way it went down, all the stuff we’ve been talking all night about, the team from last year, two years ago, three years ago, that sends them on like a nineame losing streak. A game like that. I don’t think that’s going to happen. I think you’re gonna kick the crap out of the Savers. That’s again I that’s what I’m hoping. We’ve been saying all year this room is different. God, I hope God I hope they prove us right tomorrow and and just dominate a full game. Yep. I hope so. Yeah. I I I I hope that this this is a game that that does kind of snowball the opposite direction. And and I think I I I hope they have the the confidence to know like, hey, like we just won, you know, five out of six or whatever it was, five out of seven and they got points in in in their last six games. Um like they know that they’ve been playing well. So don’t let this effort, don’t let this game where some calls or non calls didn’t go your way, don’t let that snowball into seven games in the wrong direction. You can you you have a lot more home games coming up to close the month. This is the you know this is the one road game out of a nineame stretch and it’s against the Sabres. Yeah, it’s it’s second night of the back. Sure. It’s against the Sabres. Like you should you should you can’t have this the start to the game you had tonight against the Sabres, but you should still beat the Sabres and and I think you should have some extra motivation to go out and get those two points that you didn’t get tonight. Um, so I I I I I think this team I believe this team has the attitude and the confidence to go and do it. Um, now they just got to go out and and execute it. And I and I do like that Jeff Blashel publicly is not necessarily um you know going after the refs to the tune of what would potentially be a fine from the league, but he’s laying it out there that like look if you’re if if you’re going to call what was a penalty tonight a penalty and then you’re not going to do anything about the Burkovsky hit and you’re going to give Conor an unsportsmanlman like in that situation in which you missed what is a penalty in a big moment. Um, he must he must have cursed your family to to hear from here to the end of time if you’re going to call that a penalty. Um, and and two things can be true. The ref should be able to handle what a 20-year-old says to him. Um, but also Connor can’t yap that much at the ref. Um, but even still, like it’s that’s a that’s a tough a tough look, I would say, on the ref in that scenario in in a two- two game. That’s, you know, you you you know, it’s we don’t want the refs to manage the game with penalties, but that’s kind of one of those times where you’re like, are you really in this moment going to call on sportsmanlike? I don’t know. Darren Pang was really pissed about it and saying, in this moment, you can’t do it. And yeah, it should not have been called. Absolutely not. I I think we’re I don’t know if our message is getting misconstrued here. Um cuz we’re being told we’re backpedaling now cuz Jeff Flashel said that the refs are deciding. This thing’s a skill sometimes. Listen, of course it played Conor Bard had the game on his stick. It’s not backpedaling. If you don’t think that Jeff Flashel tomorrow in the film session, if you think that he’s going to spend the la the third period portion of the film session talking about and this is when the ref screwed us and not the 12 to one shots against advantage, you’re out of your mind. You’ve not been paying attention to what Jeff Flash’s doing. Did it play a factor in this game? 100%. Is it why is it the sole reason they lost? It is not. They had a two nothing lead that they blew before that opportunity even happened. And you Hawks fans should expect more from a team that has shown you more. And they want you to expect more of them. They don’t want to be, like I said, pat them on the head for a nice little effort. Really good 40 minutes. No. No. These are professionals. Like it’s okay to hold them to a standard now because they’re telling you, “Look at us. Look where we are. We demand respect. We want respect and we’re not getting it.” Paul red there for a second. Hey, look at us. Yeah. Like it’s just it’s okay. It is okay to be pissed that the team let this game get away with it. And then when they found an opportunity to to and at the same time when they had the opportunity to undo the fall apart with a Bard breakaway, they get denied that be pissed about that too. Yes, both but it’s not one thing. Both things are true in this game. The referee, the officiating was bad and the third period sucked. Both of those are true. That’s all we’re saying. I don’t know why this is controversial. Did one play into the other? I don’t know. Probably not. But yes, the the the Bard sequence with the official was terrible from start to finish. Not calling a penalty on Burkovski. Not ideal, not a great call. You know, should have been a response for that. None of that changes the fact that you had a two nothing lead, played the best period of the season, and followed it up with the worst period of the season. Yeah, they just they just they had their their periods uh missequenced. Usually their first, you know, their first period’s good, third period’s good, middle period’s bad. You had the bad first period, a your best second period and they acted like it was the third and then they forgot they had to play the third period. So there just, you know, get your sequencing right. It’s fine. Again, Zachary Stone is the one yelling at us the most. We are, no one is saying that. We’re saying you guys are ignoring the actual fact that the players and the coach all said it was a deciding factor. It was a factor. They were winning two to nothing and were outshot 12-1 leading up to that point. It was 2-2 when it happened. What are you talking about? It didn’t start the third period. It was a parade to the penalty box cuz arrest felt like it. They got screwed on a play. Yes. Do you think Kraken fans are pissed that Joey Decord got a penalty for poking Tyler Berusi’s skate? We all looked at each other like, “Didn’t he just trip himself?” We were all laughing at that call like, “Okay, the Hawks scored on that power play.” Yes, he did. He actually did trip him. Yes, he did. But again, if if that if Spencer Knight had done that and the Kraken scored on that power play, Hawk’s hands would be live it. Oh, he barely touched his blade. Like, come on, guys. Let’s let’s try to have some objectivity here. It’s not Obviously, the Hawks winning is great for all of us. We said the other day when we when it’s a non-game day, we’re upset because we wish it was a game day because we’re enjoying the hell out of the season, but it’s not just going to be the Hawks are great and and and the only part of this game is that the ref screwed them. If that’s your if that’s your takeaway from this game, you weren’t paying attention. You weren’t. I’m sorry. I look at the numbers Greg said at the start of the show. First period at five on five, Hawks have 16 shot attempts to 15. Second period, 25 shot attempts to nine. Third period, the Hawks had two shot attempts and even strength. That’s not the referee’s fault. I I play the game. What what makes that sting even more was the Kraken scored with two seconds left in that penalty, too. It wasn’t like they scored right on the ensuing faceoff. They almost had that thing killed. Two seconds left. I mean, they kill that off. The momentum switches, you know, you’re feeling good. Like, hey, we we we you know, bad bad call. We overcame it. That’s what that’s what’s that’s what stinks about that even more where they were they were so close to killing it off and that made it I think that hurt made it hurt more than if they would have just scored seven seconds into the power play. Yes, all these things are true. The Hawks had a horrible third. The refs had a horrible game. Yes, that was a horrible blown call to not call a pen on the Bard slash. The combination of all it was an overreaction by the referee to call a pen on Bard while at the same time Baddard should have gotten back into the play cuz it was a tie game with four something minutes left. Go defend and then talk on your way to the box or talk on your at the bench. All these things are true together. There’s not a one There’s not one defining factor that costs a Hawks this game tonight aside from the fact that they let it get away from them in a third. I I don’t know why this is a controversial take or a or rage bait. I I don’t know. I don’t know. Yeah. I mean I I I think I mean you can you can look at you look at the game in in a in a you know bird’s eye view. Um, you know, it’s it the whole entire third period was trending in the wrong direction. Um, but you have you have the key moment, the key moment and and that’s what this team has kind of been this season is, you know, for this is now 20 games in into the year for the quarter mark of the season. They’ve been a team that usually doesn’t get more chances on net than their opposition. usually doesn’t get more scoring chances, usually doesn’t get more high danger chances, but at the right moments, in key moments, they’ve been able to capitalize and they’ve been able to, you know, get out chanced 15 to seven in a game, you know, let’s say scoring chances wise. Um but especially and especially in Spencer Knight games, you’ve been able to give up maybe one of those chances against and you score on two of them and and you’re able to um you know really when it matters make those make those moments count and we can have the debate about sustainability and everything, but in this game that third period was was exactly like that. They’re getting out chanced, they’re getting walked, they’re getting outscored, but then you have that moment where Connor Baddard’s got that breakaway. Who else on this team would you want to have a breakaway? No one. So, he’s got that chance and then you if he if he just misses that breakaway, you go, “Ah, damn.” And then if if Seattle scores, you say, “Wow, Wheels just fell off in the third period. Can’t let that happen.” But the fact that it played out the way it did and then they score the third period or the third goal rather. Um, you look at that sequence and that key moment and you say that breakaway, that missed call, then that subsequent penalty like yeah, you can say all everything that led up to that moment is all important, but that is the key moment of this game where the Hawks have the chance to stop the bleeding, get the get be the ones to get the third goal. It ends up going the other way. I agree with that. But I yeah, we’re going to go to overtime, by the way. So, if you’re watching us on one of the fast channels on your Samsung or Roku or whatever, switch over to lchgo.com while we continue the show. Um, yeah, I think you summarized it right. I just, you know, I toas was that the key moment of the game? Yes, because it was the best player on either team with the game on the line, but it should not have gotten to that point is what I’m trying to say. I I just don’t Maybe I’m not articulating it correctly, but I feel like I’m taking bills. I I don’t the way the way that the game was going and and the way that you feel about this Blackhawks team, you feel that they’re better. The the first game they played against the Kraken, they were the better team up until the third period tonight, they were the better team. And you felt, okay, this is this is the going to be going into that third period. At least I felt this is the two points they didn’t get in Seattle. And now you come away with two games in which you feel like even for the whole 60 minutes you were the better team and you get zero points to show for it. So it’s extremely frustrating. Yeah, that’s it. And everyone’s frustrated. Well, thank God they play tomorrow. Get it out of your system. Get right back on the ice and and move on. And uh Tim says, “Will Dickson be back Sunday?” It seems really close. Um I mean remember the day he got hurt. We said don’t come back if you’re ready unless you’re ready. Unless you are fully 100% ready. He even said that the I do not want him rushing back tomorrow because Burkossky’s hurt. You’ve got Landon Slagger there. If you give him another day and he can return against the Avalanche, that’s better, right? You hope that this team, even without Burkosski, can handle the Buffalo Sabres. You hope because then it’s then it is the juggernaut of the NHL coming in here on Monday, which is going to be a huge test. And I’m pretty confident they’ll be ready. What did I say? Sunday. Sunday. I don’t know what day it is anymore. Um yeah, so the next game Sunday. Um it’ll be a huge test for them and I expect them to be ready. I I I really do think that this experience today is going to go a long way for this team just because of the way they’re coached, because of how they’re made up, because of the personality of the team. I think they’re going to be raring to go tomorrow from the second the puck drops. And if it’s if it’s they’re not, I will be shocked. Yeah, it would be definitely surprising if they come out and lay an egg tomorrow night. That that would be um against everything we’ve seen from this group from day one. Yeah. Um you know, we’ve said it all year that, you know, this team is different. So, prove it tomorrow and and be ready to play. And I and I think with this coaching staff that they’re not going to let them, you know, this this game derail what they’ve got going on. All right. Anything else to add, Mario, before I let you go? Um, I’m I’m not going to spoil it, but um we’ll just we’ll we’ll be uh we’ll be alert. We’ll be alert tomorrow morning. Be alert tomorrow morning is all I’ll say. Okay. I’m gonna be sleeping. Don’t sleep too long. All right. We’ll talk to you tomorrow. Thanks, Mario. All right. See you guys. All right. That’s Mario Terbosi from the United Center. Follow him on Twitter, Mario_tierbossy. All right, we’ve got a bunch of super chats. Let’s get through these. Uh, sorry everybody. It’s been a very newsy show. Uh, Charlie the Bing guy, $10 says, “Supporting the to the fine any Blackhawks player or coach gets for their comments tonight. No excuse to blow that two nothing lead, but the rest blew that.” There you go. $10 from Charlie. 10 more hours from Adrian says, “The ref screwed us repeatedly on the no call on Burikovski hit, the Bard slash, and a cowardly unsports and leg penalty. NHL has a referee problem.” I agree with all those points except the Yeah, I all those individual things are correct. Yeah, there is a referee problem in this league for sure. It’s not been great. And I know if I know anything about the NHL is that they’re going to be accountable and they’re going to fix it. Well, they’ll have this they’ll have the officiating running like a welloiled perfectly justifiable machine come playoff time. Can’t wait. And it’s going to be innovative right down the line. Fair and just like we all dream of. Yes. Uh, Healer 1515 two bucks says unacceptable knowing grabbed Lindren to go. Yep, we all agree with that. Surprised it didn’t happen. Uh, Lingren to go. Is that the Chappelle? Lind to go. Lindren, what is that commercial? Take it to go. Is it Robinson’s ribs? Whatever it was. Carson’s ribs. Carson’s ribs. Yeah. Yeah. Take it to go. Take it to go. Someone will know that. The old will get it. I want ribs now. Yep. That’s it. We’re getting ribs. Uh, Alex says, “Uh, crazy. They don’t adapt when the dump and chase doesn’t work. Uh $2. I assume I think you saw about the Hawks there. Um I don’t know. I I think it was they were just having trouble getting the puck away from the Kraken in the third. It just you can’t dump it if you never have it. This is true. That was kind of the That was the issue there. They they weren’t chasing dumps in the third period. They were chasing Kraken. Yeah. And like what we were talking about though the first 40 minutes like look how much simpler they’re playing and look at the you know they’re chipping the puck deep and they’re chasing it down and like they’re not doing this east and west stuff. They’re going north and south. They’re playing that straightforward game and it gave them their best. I agree with I agree with Jeff I disagree with Jeff Flash about the first period. I think they were good in the first period. They started good but the second half wasn’t great. I think part of that was Kraken. They’re just kind of they’re just so happy to play boring hockey. Well, yeah. And that’s and I even said it like when the Hawks scored first, I was like that’s huge. Yeah. Because in the first game in the first game they this Kraken scored first and then they just clogged the zone and the Hawks couldn’t figure that out. So I thought, oh okay, they’re up two nothing. Should be good. And then it didn’t happen that way. It did not. Uh, $5 from Joey Smith says, “Refs suck, but ultimately they played like Bort Hole in the third period.” Way to throw it back, Joey. Thank you for the hole. Bort hole. My favorite of the holes. That’s the best one. Uh, let’s see. Garden garden hoser $2 says, “Best second period, worst third period. Frustrating.” Yep. A very, very frustrating uh game indeed. Labowski 55 five bucks says in the pulley voice it’s family board of directors got to earn your calls. Yes, thank you for that. And natural cat trick sends $2. I don’t know if that was in reference to an earlier uh super chat. We’ll see if we can find it. There we go. Uh he says, “I appreciate you teaching us how to fan. You are right. Hawks lost because of a third period now, not because of a few bad calls.” We’re not trying to teach you how to fan. I think we’re just I just Here’s the thing. I’ve been covering this team for a really long time. This is my 17th year covering the Blackhawks in some capacity and I have 30 years of fandom before that. What has always frustrated me about the coverage of the Blackhawks in this town is that they’re not treated like the other teams. They don’t get the attention, they don’t get the analysis, they don’t get the criticism, they don’t get the praise, right? And it sucks all around. So when we had the opportunity, first it was being on the score occasionally when the Hawks were really, really good. Then when that died down, I started the Madhouse podcast with James Dvau. And now we do this and it’s been awesome. Our goal, you, Mario, James, everyone I’ve ever done a show with, has been to treat the Blackhawks, and to treat Hawks fans like the fans of the big boy teams in town and to treat the Hawks like the big boy team in town because they are. They’re an original six team. They’ve won three championships lately. Can’t say that about any other Chicago team. Um, so I’m not just going to come on here and Greg’s not going to come on here and Mario’s not going to come on here after a game they let go for various reasons which we have covered ad nauseium in this postgame show and just be the meatball blame the ref show that I will never do that. If you want that it’s out there. Well, I’m sure there’s all kinds of uh shows all across the tubes of you with with that. It’s out there for sure. And yeah, it’s I love the frustration and I love the the the the passion of of you know the chat that they’re pissed and that’s good because that means this game meant something. Yes, it did. And that’s that’s awesome. You know, don’t want to you don’t agree with my opinion of it. Fine. That’s part of the game. Like I have my take, you have your take. Awesome. But the fact that everybody is upset maybe about different things, you know, you’re upset about the refs. I’m more upset about, you know, the the how the play uh, you know, went down in the third period. But the bottom line is is we all can agree that this was a game the Blackhawks should have won and for whatever reason they didn’t and we’re upset that they didn’t because damn it they need those two points. That’s exciting to me because that means we have been trying to get here for years. Yes. That means like everything we’ve been saying for the last 3 years is finally to starting to turn around and come to fruition and they’re playing games that mean something and that’s awesome. So we can you know disagree on why they lost this game. Um, yes. 10 four words. They’ve done this five times already this year. Yeah. Like as whatever, whatever reason you want to say, you know, and I love that the guy that has the worst takes in the history of CHTO say we have the takes are wrong. None of you probably can see that cuz all you have him banned or blocked more specific, but yes. So, thank you the the founder of the bad take for saying if you’re saying my takes are wrong, then I’m pretty proud of my take. Yeah. And uh game puck, as we mentioned earlier, a guy who played absolutely awesome from this moment this game started. Tower Batusi is our game puck winner. Uh I got to I got to mark the I don’t know if I marked the winner last time. Who was the winner last time? Conor Bard. Bernard. So I got to I’ll after the game I will count to make sure I mark the last one. But this is Tyler Bertusi. This is crazy. This is only his second game puck. He You could argue aside from well can’t argue he has been the most consistent Hawks forward aside from Bernard. Hey, he’s the reason why he’s our backboard. Yeah. Hell yeah. Like he was awesome tonight. And boy, you his uh him being on the ice makes such a difference for this team. Such a difference. He’s so effective as as uh what Blash was saying the other day like he just wins puck battles, gets into corners, goes in a net and basically said like Tyler’s willingness to go to the net inspires other players to also go to the net when he’s out there. He says it’s contagious 100%. People see what he does, they want to emulate it. And uh it was it was great to see him back out there. He had some uh uh you know that second period you know was the the full Tyler Patusi experience. You know he had the goal the real nice setup the passing play with table unbelievable. It was a great goal 10th goal of the season already. Then he draws the penalty on that that the Jakort like you said earlier with the tripping. But that whole shift was funky. You know that’s why I’m bummed that like the game ended the way it is. We had to spend all the time arguing about referees. That shift was insane because uh Matty Beneers breaks his stick and then he gets a then he gets a slap shot off the foot. He’s got no stick. He’s on one foot and then Pratusi is all alone. Nobody within 30 ft of him. And that was crazy. He might have, you know, he was tripped. Yes, he was. It was very like but it punked him, you know, I thought he seriously stepped on a pug or tripped on his stick. Yeah. And then they showed the replay. I was like, “Okay, yeah, the stick was in the skate. That’s the right call.” But that was just such a funny shift. And then of course they score, he sets up the best play he made all night was the assist on the power play goal where he beats uh what was it? Um it wasn’t Larson, whoever the defenseman was. Um the big the big guy. Um yeah. What is it? 24 guy that was on the I’m drawing a complete blank, but uh 400 game for him by the night and 200 for tonight. Yes. Um but he beats him to the puck and then makes a one-handed pass across the ice that somehow gets under two Kraken stick gets on the stick of uh Terravan and he puts it in the net. Like just th that second period was awesome for Bratusi. There’s an angle of that Tavo goal where it’s like from it’s like from the goal line like almost like it’s almost as if Brutusi was wearing a GoPro and you can see Tabo’s like his mouth is wide open like oh my god that pass hit my he is so excited he scored the easiest goal he’ll ever score. Um it it and you can just see the fake of the the face of Tavo uh as he’s like, “Holy crap, what a pass. That was unreal. I dude, we saw hints of him like this last year. He has been this Tyler Buzzi every game. It’s great to see and he has been a huge huge catalyst for this team.” All right, that is uh 15 extra minutes and we’re back at it tomorrow night. 5:30 pregame, 6:00 puck drop. We will be here for Hawks and Sabres. Let’s hope we are celebrating. We don’t want Noodle Man gathering too much dust. I’m confident the Hawks will take this loss, rally from it, learn from it, and beat up on the Buffalo Sabers. You got to have pregame wings to make it happen. Buffalo wings. No, not that. Enjoy that. All right, we’ll talk to you tomorrow at 5:30 on the CHGL Blackhawks podcast presented by Bet 365. [Music] [Applause] [Music]
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18:30 Connor Bedard postgame interview
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Did we lose a playoff game? Jay freaking out 😂 maybe you should take your own advice and control your emotions. Always liked you and have watched from day one. A bit much.
The referees made a terrible call. That should have been a penalty and the Hawks should have been on the PP. However that’s not the reason why the Hawks lost this game. If Bedard was skating and didn’t yell at the referee. I would be more on the referees but Bedard had to yell at the referees instead of playing whistle to whistle and he got a penalty. It’s a soft call but Bedard cannot go off and be angry when it’s in the late stages of the 3rd period. Bedard taking the penalty cost us the game . Playing in our own zone while the Kraken kept getting quality shots on goal is one of the reasons why we lost. When having a 2 goal lead and not skating to making the game 3-0 is not a winning formula. Jay and Greg are right and people can get mad all they want about the officials costing games. That’s not true and if anyone thinks that’s true you probably haven’t watched hockey for a long time because playing whistle to whistle and playing a full 60 and playing simple hockey especially having the lead will win games. Hawks had a great 40 minutes of hockey . That doesn’t win games in the NHL.
This show continues to fall off and I'm glad people are starting to see it. Arguing with the chat and speaking so matter-of-factly? This show used to be a fun listen but lets get some maturity and people that won't cry over being disagreed with. Stop talking down on people, you look like terrible people for it.
That Burky take also has to be one of the most awful, out-of-touch, from-the-couch takes I've ever heard. Trip and stumbled and you have the audacity to say keep your head up? Then double down, throw a pity party, and say "don't lie to yourselves"? Get real, y'all. And get off your high horse.
Defending the ref like they did with Seth jones all of last year and arguing with every single fan over it
This was a hard watch… u guys seem out of touch with what majority of the fan base thinks of this game
Mario great take tonight. Voice of reason. Maybe it helps to be in the building. Keep up the good work. Love the emotion is back with this team. Go Hawks!
I think the team is suffering from two major things: 1. Exhaustion from the 11/7 esp. when it goes 10/7. 2. Frankie has not looked himself since that big hit he took that sat him out several games. He lost …something. A step? An edge? Not sure but he does not look like that guy earlier in the year.
This is why we like Panger, Rick and tony granato they call out the abysmal reffing
You guys need to be better. Oh I’m a contrarian I’m soooo smart!!! Ugh.
I think the issue the viewers were having is that it seems like it was a full combination of ref bad calls and bad performance by the hawks in the 3rd that led to the loss. it seemed like at the beginning of the show that Jay and Greg were dismissing the multiple bad ref calls because the hawks played so badly and that the bad calls wouldn't have mattered. I know that is not what they were saying but that is how it came across. It was definitely a bad first half of the 3rd but we'll never know about the second half of the third based on that whole scene with the refs. Just think that even if they were playing bad in the 3rd, Bedard was on a breakaway that could have been another score or if not a score should have been a PP, which could have led to another score. Then the bad call on Bedard was a PP that the Kraken shouldn't have had. Would we be talking about how bad the 3rd period was if they scored on one of those two opportunities or didn't have a PK for bad call? especially since the two goals the Kraken did have were both multi deflections and not great goals. just my two cents.
Jay is condescending and nasally annoying and he has always been. He’s very immature and he sets the tone for the show. Greg is knowledgeable but he follows Jay’s lead, not good. Mario comes off condescending to me but not as bad as Jay. This show needs someone with a more mature and engaging personality to lead the show.
They definitely shouldn’t have choked but it wasn’t just the 1 call in the end that the refs messed up. Mikeyhevs penalty was bs, no penalty on the hit to burakovsky where he didn’t have the puck and the guy went right for his head. Also multiple trips on the kraken that weren’t called. I don’t blame Bedard for the way he reacted. And again shouldn’t have choked it but the refs were awful
Greg will spend his life trying to convince you he knows hockey better than everyone lol