Minnesota Vikings turning to Max Brosmer as QB.1?

Minnesota Vikings turning to Max Brosmer as QB.1?

Like a dog in the street. Purple Daily is daily Vikings entertainment. We just want the Vikings to win a Super Bowl before we die. I will ride with this group. Seriously, man. Please. And away we go. He is Darren Doogie Wolson from the five Eyewitness News sports department. Happy Tuesday. Little information, maybe some speculation about the Minnesota Vikings. And uh looks like there’s going to be a new starting quarterback for the weekend. So we’re going to get into some Max Brosmer discussion powered in part by Menards, which is your one-stop shop for everything for your car, including How’s Diesel Conditioner. Yeah, football. Don’t let the cold weather shut you down. How’s Diesel Conditioner prevents fuel from jelling, adds lubrication to protect injectors, and even boosts performance. Trusted by truckers and farmers everywhere, keeps your diesel running strong all winter long. 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Theo Jackson told me recently when he missed a game a couple weeks ago, he had to go through the concussion protocol. It is a lengthy process to clear that, right? We’re talking somebody outside the building. This isn’t just a Vikings team doctor saying, “Hey, you’re good to go.” So, it takes a while, right? Even Ryan Kelly, right? Just we can go up and down the list, right? This isn’t a new phenomenon. But for what it’s worth, being in the locker room on Monday, it was a ghost town outside of JJ McCarthy and TJ Hawinson. But JJ McCarthy walking through, smiling, had a brief conversation with our mutual friend Kevin Seaffort of ESPN. Gave him the nuts. Kevin just happened to be well positioned. I was on the other side of the locker room. But for what it’s worth, JJ seemed on Monday to be in a good spot. But yes, I mean, heck, you look at the betting line this morning, thanks to Yahoo Sports betting analyst Ben Fox, who’s a social media friend of mine, he just had the note, the Vikings right now, I don’t know if you know this, Phil, on Sunday are a 10 and a half point underdog. They have not been this significant an underdog in 12 freaking years. 2013, oh, by the way, a game at Seattle, right? So, Vegas certainly thinks, well, I don’t know, actually. Maybe Vegas thinks it could be either. It doesn’t matter. Yeah, but I’m thinking Vegas thinks it’ll be Max Bromer making his first NFL start. All right, Dudes. What’s What’s the chance here? If Brosmer goes in, plays well, Vikings win, does he he get he keeps the job, right? If even if McCarthy clears concussion protocol, I mean, how do how do you pull the plug on someone if he goes in and has 10 and a half point dogs and beats a big win in Seattle? It’s probably then his job, right? If they win. All right, that’s one heck of a leap, Declan. But, okay, let’s play this out. They shock us. They pull off the miracle. They beat the Seahawks. Max Brosmer plays well. Whatever the minuscule chances are of making the playoffs, they are still alive at five and seven heading into at that point a very, very, very, very winnable game at home against the Washington Commanders. Yes, this is me more opining. But yes, how would you not play Max Bromer under that scenario? How would you not play Max Brosmer against Washington on December 7th? So, yes, if Max plays well, I’ll tell you what though, I mean, that Seattle D legit, that is one heck of an ask, right, for your first NFL start. I’d feel a lot better if this was December 7th, right, that Max is making his first start. But yeah, if it is Max, I’ll tell you what, the ball is going to get out of his hands fast. I imagine we will see a healthy amount of runs once again. He can process things quick. It’s not just Quincy Avery. Coney Dur, former Gophers quarterback. I remember him tweeting the night of week one, first half, Chicago Monday night football game. He’s like, “Hey, I see it already.” Right? He’s got an advanced football mind. Cony’s like, “Okay, I know Max well enough. Max can process faster.” Right now, JJ is not processing things fast enough. I have no doubt that Max will have the right footwork, the right mechanics. The football IQ is off the charts. So, I’m a believer in Max Broer. To me, he has earned the opportunity to be the number two. So, number one goes down. Now, I am in the boat. If JJ McCarthy were healthy, I would still play JJ McCarthy. That it’s only been 24 quarters. I need a bigger sample size. I get it. Of the 24 quarters, what are we talking? 19 20 give or take have been pretty darn bad. But I would give him a longer leech. But I get it. Like this is a legit injury. It’s a thing. You look at the hit his head took to the ground at 501 of the fourth quarter on Sunday. Some other hits. There’s legitimacy to what he is dealing with. That to me circles back, Phil, to what we discussed a few weeks ago in this space. Regardless of the mechanics and the footwork and all that, to me, the biggest question mark with Jim McCarthy is can he sustain any sort of serious lengthy run in terms of just staying on the field? Yeah. Health to me is the biggest question mark. Can he sustain? Can he stay healthy for any lengthy stretch? Now it’s been three games. Now we’re back to where we were. Concussion, hand, ankle, they’ve all been legit knee, right? But I just don’t know if the young man can stay healthy. That to me remains the number one question mark. Yeah. I mean, he’s uh I I it reminds me of this is an obscure Eddie Murphy movie, but Bowfinger from like the late 90s, early 2000s where where his his brother is trying to cross a sixlane freeway playing Frogger. Like J, there are there are 250 lb 300lb monsters going 70 mph up and down the NFL freeway. And he’s been in the way of a few of them. uh the the hip dropish tackle against Atlanta, the you know getting dropped on his head against Green Bay. It’s like these are it happens in the NFL and it’s up you have to be able to not only play at a high level but defend yourself out there too and it’s been the the biggest thing. But Duke, I want to drill even deeper on there seems to be a dynamic with Brosmer and you I mean hell, you’ve you covered him as a gopher and you’ve you’ve documented for months on this show and even before he was a Viking how much that coaching staff loved Max Bromer with the Gophers, his football IQ, uh the work he has done to help uh Drake Lindsay, right? Uh the current quarterback. like he’s a he’s a from all accounts a very smart high football IQ guy that if it doesn’t work out as a player probably becomes a coach at some point. He went undrafted. Albert Beer had an interesting tweet yesterday. He said Max Broer has performed well enough in practice running the scout team for coaches to want to get a look at him in a regular season setting before this injury to JJ McCarthy. It may happen organically for the Vikings this week. It just feels like a lot of the talk about Brosmer coming from the building is we kind of love this guy. Curious to see what he looks like. And a lot of the talk about McCarthy is we love him too, but the mechanics are a train wreck. It feels like and we’ll see if Brosmer gets out there and he’s a disaster. Okay, now you now you got another mess on your hands. But it feels like the organization kind of wants to see this internally, Doogie. Well, I think there is some level of excitement. I mean, you talk to some defense players, whether on the record or even off camera a bit on background, it’s a thumbs up on Bromer. So, what Albert Brerier alluded to, yeah, I mean, I can I can certainly verify that that there’s been some excitement, some things he’s done in practice. Now, he’s only getting so many opportunities. oftentimes it’s running the scout team. But yeah, his mannerisms, a lot of things about Max Bromer have excited a lot of people in that building. Now, I’m telling you, if JJ McCarthy were healthy, I don’t think they were making a quarterback change. Like, if JJ McCarthy came out of Sunday, okay, JJ McCarthy plays on Sunday at Seattle. But that doesn’t diminish or take away from, yeah, that idea that there is some genuine excitement. Okay, we invested over $200,000 to sign him as an undrafted free agent. So, we invested pretty heavily when it comes to undrafted free agency. We spent a lot of money on him that Kevin Oonnell, others with the Vikings very much cherish the relationship they have with PJ Fleck, others with the golfers that hey PJ’s not going to just say something for the sake of helping his guy. He’s going to tell Kevin others with the Vikings the truth. PJ Fleck freaking loves Max Bromer. Greg Harbo loves Max Brosmer. And so, and it’s not just that, right? Quincy Avery, others that have worked with Max for a long time. You know, if you go back and chat with people at New Hampshire, wherever, right? You go back any number of years, you hear a lot of good things about Max Bromer. I just I wish it was a slightly different situation. And I just think that is that is one heck of an ask for your first NFL start if it indeed happens. Right. To me, we still need to find out a little bit more because I’m telling you, McCarthy looked pretty good to me on Monday. But I understand it is a process, a lengthy process to get cleared. Okay. So, right now in this moment on Tuesday morning, I understand it. Let’s talk about this because yes, if we had to bet one way or the other, I get it. It seems like Max Bromer will play on on Sunday. But yeah, I mean it’s just that Seattle defense that environment man alive. Yeah. Yeah. It’s it’s a I just I wish it was a different situation, you know? Now, hey, if he can handle Sunday, you know, he can handle just about anything. I just wish it was a slightly easier situation. Now, maybe you can argue on the road perhaps better compared to a home game at US Bank Stadium. So regardless of opponent, you would take the road situation. Everything is stacked against you. Expectations probably not real high. And so, hey, just let it fly, you know, let it ride, right? And so, I understand that mentality. I do. I just I think this is a really, really, really hard, not like I’m going out on a limb, but I just think it’s a really hard ask of of Max on Sunday. Uh Alec Lewis at The Athletic had this today about just Max Brosmer’s maybe inevitability basically becoming the Vikings starting quarterback um uh that dropped this morning and he has this quote from Eric Gulo who is a the director of football operations for the East West Shrine Bowl and a longtime evaluator and he said in August, I’ll stand by it. I’ll be really surprised if Max does not start games in the NFL early. It’s not as crazy as it sounds. Max is going to run the offense at a high level. He’s not going to miss throws. He shouldn’t miss. He’s going to trust the offense. Um, end quote. So, even though, you know, circumstances, like to your point out, Doogie, yeah, we wish it was a different circumstance, but even if McCarthy had 53 net passing yards or whatever it was on Monday or on Sunday against the Packers, I I think if if if another stinker like that happened, which by the way, like that’s a very likely scenario again happening against Seattle. if if if McCarthy even is not concussed that he struggles again. If it does feel like they wanted to get him a look and if if this one might be a little bit premature, it from scouts, from coaches, insiders like Albert Fer, obviously Alec Lewis, a beat reporter who’s around the team also all the time, it it feels like it’s getting out there that they wanted to give Max a shot regardless of the situation at hand here. Yeah. And hey, I hope if it is Max that KOC opens things up to some extent. Yes, a presumption that they’ll continue to run the ball at a pretty high clip. Maybe not quite as much as they did in the first half on Sunday. I did see the note that for a first half that was by far the most under KOC as a play caller that the Vikings have have run the ball when talking about one half Yeah. of football. But, you know, there would be an expectation they’re going to run the ball a good amount, but I’m telling you, like, you can take the handcuffs off enough. Like, I don’t think the golfers did early enough with Bromer. I’ll die on this hill. They beat North Carolina in that opener a couple years ago if they had handed the keys to Max. That was way too conservative of a game plan. Now, I get it to some extent, like the Gophers didn’t realize what they had in Max Bromer. Didn’t really click until halftime of the game in Ann Arbor, the game in Michigan that they nearly came back and won. But Max can do a lot of things, right? And you know, you’re not going to find people, now I’ve said this about JJ McCarthy, too, but you’re you’re not going to find people to say bad things, and I’m talking on background. Like, you’re not going to find people to say bad things about Max Bromer. And so at 24 24 and a half years old, I mean, he’s got a couple years on JJ McCarthy. You just think about the mental maturation, right? Just everything he can absorb, you know, being fully matured at 24 years old. Uh there’s a lot to like. And so, hey, at this point, you know, to go with the cliche, I mean, what is there to lose? Yeah. You know, it it can’t get any worse, right? So, yes. Right. Like to me, there’s not even a reason even if JJ clears late in the week. Now, they will have a bit of an atypical schedule, they’ll go a bit longer Wednesday, cut short Thursday so guys can get home for Thanksgiving, then go a bit longer on Friday. So, Friday probably has a little more importance compared to some other Fridays. But even if JJ clears middle of the week, late in the week, I don’t know. I think I’m rolling and just saying no, there’s no reason like let’s not mess with a brain injury. Let’s give you a week to to rest up and hey, you know, we’ll make Walford the back quarterback. Maybe you need to do some stuff, elevate him, you know, whatever you need to do to to make him the number two on on Sunday. But that JJ, you know, we’ll reevaluate re-evaluate you come come December that hey, this is Max Max’s show on Sunday. Yeah. I I want to flip to the other side of this, the JJ McCarthy side, because it it does feel like it it has been about as bad of a sixgame numbers, everything people have put there’s been so many numbers that have shown just how how bad it has been among quarterbacks this year and historically. Uh, but I I have some sort of big picture questions about it for you here, Dukes, in a second after we shout out Federated Mutual Insurance Company. 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That iconic Green Mill restaurant tavern style pizza now available in your own kitchen with your own pizza maker. Find Green Mill restaurant pizzas and more including soft bread sticks and sauces at your local ger. Learn more at greenmillfoods.com. So Dudes, lot of people lot of people bailing after six games and uh if you are mad at us or Thorne Istrom who uh is going to be on the Tuesday state of the Vikings episode of Purple Daily. So check your feeds for that. A lot of people bailing after six games. The six games have been if there was a scale of like what could this look like after six games? This is about as low on the scale as you can possibly get. But I’m wondering is this enough? Like, have the six games been so bad in your opinion that whether you’re a fan, a media member, or you are a wolf, or someone who has stake in that front office or Kevin Oonnell that you feel like, you know what, I know it’s only been six games. It’s been two years, but I’ve seen enough to go explore other options in the off season. I do wonder what the patience level is going to be for an ownership group that doesn’t like to be irrelevant and maybe people working for those owners if they keep their jobs in some cases that might go into preservation mode versus hey let’s keep hammering the rock at this long-term development project. What what what do you make of this whole stew right now? Yeah, I mean, heck, if the Vikings lose at the New York Giants, you think about the Wolves, the history they have growing up in that area, following the Giants, if you lose that game, if JJ McCarthy is back by mid December, if he fails miserably in that game, oh boy. I mean to me JJ could play well if slash when he comes back and you still need to do something in March. You can’t hand JJ McCarthy any sort of keys to the 2026 season. He may earn that right, but he would have to. You can’t just say, “Hey, yes, you’ve done enough in a two or three game sample size. Here you go. This is your team in 2026.” I mean, I can’t sugarcoat it, Phil. I can’t. When you’re in the same breath as Jamarcus Russell, Blake Bortles, when talking about Vikings lore, Christian Ponder, what we saw in 2012 from Christian Ponder, I can’t put lipstick on that pig, right? Yeah, it is what it is. But there is something to be said. For me at least, 22 years old, really to me, 23 quarters because his ankle was pretty jacked up that fourth quarter against Atlanta. that I just I can’t write the final chapter. I can’t. And I do think and I’m not an X’s and O’s guy. Okay. But you watch Curt Warner break it down. Great break or some others that it’s not all right. I’m sure you’ve done a deeper dive on it than I have. But it’s not all on JJ McCarthy. What about Micah Parson steamrolling Ryan Kelly on Sunday? What about any number of receivers not doing what they were supposed to do? I did see that Jaylen Naylor, not that I had Zaprruder film, you know, breakdown of what Jaylen Naylor did on Sunday, but I saw his PFF grade. Whatever you think of PFF, and we can debate that, and I’m with Jeremiah Sirls and others on PFF grades, but Naylor was a no-show, right? And so, there was something to be said about when Jaylen had his snaps, and I’m not just putting it on Jaylen. some of the other receivers too, some mistakes that were made. But then like I think about that third and 10 on that first possession, that simple throw to Aaron Jones senior. Like you have to be able to make that throw, right? So to me it’s all encompassing, but I just I can’t Phil. And I understand I may be on an island outside of, you know, I guess Thor and I maybe are on that island, but I just I can’t I can’t say done. No chance. he’s the next you name bust quarterback that it’s just it’s not going to happen. Like I can’t I can’t go there. I just can’t. But I fully acknowledge I can’t turn this into any sort of positivity when it comes to JJ McCarthy. I just can’t do it. Right? And so I don’t know where I fall. I mean, you can figure it out somewhere middle, right? I mean, you know, maybe it’s just me being stubborn, right? I mean, I’ve said for a long time I’m bullish on JJ McCarthy. I just feel I’m still trying to figure out whether it was the immediiacy after that Raiders preseason game. I guess that would have been what, August of 24. And I get it, the Raiders weren’t playing all their first teamers, but think about what we thought before we heard about the knee injury like immediately postgame after that pre-season start against the Raiders. all that excitement or even at the draft party at the Fillmore, the excitement we had, some things we had heard behind the scenes. Then we watch throughout the summer. Think about that second day joint practice against perhaps the best team in the NFL, the New England Patriots, how good a practice that day, those two hours JJ McCarthy had, right? Like, how did we get from that point to this point? And I get it. I firmly believe he’s made a lot of good throws. He’s done a lot of good things in practice, but it’s not translating to the game field. I just I can’t solve that conundrum. Why at times throughout the summer we saw shades of brilliance from JJ and we really haven’t seen it game action. Now, he made a couple throws. I thought some of the throws to Jefferson on Sunday were pretty good, right? So, there’s different moments. The throw to Naylor to seal the Lions game. There are different instances where I’m like, okay, you know, the two touchdown passes early against Detroit, there are different glimpses where I’m like, okay, there’s something there, right? But I just I can’t figure out why he can’t sustain any level of any sort of success just based on what we saw throughout the summer. Dudes, what’s your take maybe your the temperature of the room with with Justin Jefferson? I know a lot of people are are trying to make this maybe a bigger thing than it is, but at the end of the day, he’s a star wide receiver. He’s always been a typically a very good soldier at at not making things uh uh more than they should be and and the diva personality of wide receivers. I would certainly not classify Justin Jefferson in that class. Uh but what what do you make of of of Jefferson’s you know not antics but performances over the last two games and I guess his patience level if this are if this is to continue with uh JJ McCarthy or if like heck maybe Max Broer’s obviously just as bad. So what what is your kind of take and temperature of the room of Justin Jefferson’s happiness and patience with the Vikings? Well I mean he’s had incredible patience. What are we talking about now? Bromer potentially being what the seventh quarterback that he’s had throw him passes in games, right? He still puts up big time numbers, rightfully so. Earned a monster monster extension. I mean, I guess the conversation would be Declan, is it going to get to the point in January or February at the combine that it leaks that Justin Jefferson is asking out, right? Is that where we should take this conversation? Does it get to that point that Justin Jefferson just says, “Enough is enough. I need out of here.” I’ll just tell you if we want to carry that conversation through. I have not gotten one inkling that it’s ever even been considered from his camp whatever like that he’s thinking get me out of here that there’s still so much respect for Kevin Oonnell that they can figure this thing out. So, you know, certainly publicly incredibly smart guy. He’s got the right people in his corner educating him that I don’t think he’s going to say anything that is even remotely controversial. So, you know, they could stink on Sunday. They could lose by 20 points. Jefferson may have another four catch, 34 yard game, right? Not numbers he’s used to putting up. He’s watching Jackson Smith Jigba, you know, well on his way, well, on his way to setting the single season record for most receiving yards. you see him on the other side, I’m sure there’s a tint of jealousy, right? You gota be thinking, “My god, and hey, I had that quarterback last year. What happened?” Right? Look at that chemistry Darnold has with Smith and Nigbbo. How come I can’t have that here? But I don’t think he’s going to say anything even remotely controversial publicly. And I even get the sense behind the scenes, yeah, of course there’s frustration. How would there not be frustration? but that he can tolerate things enough and it certainly helps that he has the big money extension. I want to I want to touch on one more thing here. You you kind of you alluded to the Curt Warner film breakdown. There’s a bunch of I mean Dex has been giving us the cliff notes the last few weeks of the JTO Sullivan QB school breakdowns. Uh Connor Stallions who whose name has has uh not had a high approval rating in football circles and media the last couple years. And that’s legitimately him. Like somebody has figured out that’s like legitimately Conor St. Conor St. I can confirm it’s Conor Stallions. Yeah. Um so he is he well I mean he listen man like he was part he was at the center of that Michigan sign stealing scandal Jim Harbaugh whatever. uh but he he did kind of a 10 11 12 minute breakdown that he’s friends with JJ McCarthy and obviously skews toward defending his friend and then there so there’s a lot of really good film breakdowns out there right now and to varying degrees I’ll give you the like my cliff notes on the Curt Warner if you don’t have time to sit down and watch 50 minutes of Curt Warner breaking down every JJ McCarthy pass play. Uh he does criticize McCarthy for being slow to get through some reads where hey if if it were me and obviously Curt Warner is now you know 55 60 years old or whatever and Hall of Fame football player but I would know pretty quickly to get from this over to this and just get the get the ball out. But then a after he sort of lays the base of McCarthy has there’s some passes sailing and some got to get through your reads quicker stuff. He pretty quickly gets into criticizing two other things that are beyond McCarthy’s control. Kevin Oonnell’s pure progression scheme, which requires a quarterback to you’re you’re supposed to be going through sort of an order of progressions because if by the time you get from here to here over to here, the defense will have cleared out because of some of the other routes and now the timing works for your third option or whatnot. And uh and Curt Warner hates peer progression schemes because it’s they’re kind of rigid and difficult for a young quarterback to get to quicker answers in the face of pressure. And he also criticizes what I’m I’m putting this word in his mouth, but he kind of calls out some pointless tight end and running back chips where, hey, there are some long developing routes here, and it’d be great if your tight end that you’re paying $17 million to could just be flash open more quickly. And there was a few plays where the Vikings are asking Hawinson to chip in a situation where and then he chips and then he gets out on a route, but it takes him three or four seconds to flash open. It’s too late by that point. That you’re you’re better off actually letting a defender free rush and just replace the the free running rusher with a wide open short pass to a running back or a tight end. So, I would say it was like Curt Warner, I would say like 30 to 40% criticizing McCarthy, but over 50% criticizing and poking at KOC’s scheme, which is He’s not the first guy, by the way, to to poke at it. No, he’s not. I mean, that’s interesting. That’s fascinating. I mean, we hear KC say all the time, right? More often than not, it’s an organization. It’s a coaching staff that fails a quarterback. It’s not the quarterback failing the organization, failing a play caller, failing an offensive coordinator, right? So yeah, I’ll defer to the Hall of Famer who even at 55, 60 years old, knows what the heck he’s watching, knows how to articulate points and and make it conversational and and you know, noteworthy and everything for the audience, right? So I will I will absolutely defer to Kurt and all that that we can’t take KOC as much as I am a KOC apologist, we can’t take him off the hook. So in yeah, in many ways it’s all-encompassing. Yes, mostly on JJ, but if we’re diving up the pie of blame, it’s not 98% JJ McCarthy. Yeah, I get it. It’s over 50%. I think that’s safe to say, right, Phil? It’ be over 50%. Yeah, but it’s not 98%. Yeah, it’s not. People are oversimplifying. I think what’s happening is people want blood, right? They want it’s like this offense has been historically inept from a like if you go back and look at the yards per game and the the points per game. We’re with JJ McCarthy. It’s one of the worst offenses in six decades of Vikings football. That’s a fact. And what happens is people people aren’t stupid. You’ve watched enough Vikings good offenses to know what good offense looks like. And and and and you want someone to be held accountable for it. And this dweeb of a young quarterback is the reason why. And it’s but it’s more complicated than that. He’s been bad. And after two years, I hate the fact that we’re talking about mechanics still for God’s sake. So I know he missed a bunch of practice last year. So there’s a bunch of things that aren’t good enough with JJ McCarthy, but there’s a lot of other things kind of around McCarthy that feel like they’re letting him down as well. And now we’re moving into kind of a total system failure copyright Minnesota twins circa, you know, 6 years ago where there there does need to be a no one, as Jud would say, no one should escape criticism here. Maybe McCarthy is the biggest chunk of of criticism in the pie chart here, but there’s some KOC stuff here, too. and maybe front office because I don’t now that we kind of look back on it and all the veteran quarterbacks that KOC was flirting with his wandering quarterback eyes. Uh I don’t know that McCarthy was at any point in the last two years like his ride or die number one choice. Dukes well I mean Drake May was the number one ride or die choice, right? Maybe not realistic and Josh Macau’s connection to Drake May as well as kind of a mentor. I think they hired Macau maybe hoping that they could put those guys together. 100%. Right. I mean, I’ll tell you what, I’ll admit I was wrong, right? Because we said back in July or August, sometime before the season, that JJ McCarthy with this infrastructure in place that if he’s going to fail, that means just about any quarterback was going to fail. that literally everything that a young quarterback needs is here. That you have one of the best receivers in the game. You have one of the best number two receivers in the game. You have a top 15 tight end who at this point is not top 15, but we thought this in August that you have a top 10 left tackle. You have a top five right tackle. You have veterans interior of the offensive line to help the rookie first round pick who we think is going to be good. You bring in Jordan Mason, so you have two capable running backs. You still have 15 snaps a game from a fullback who’s done it for a really long time. Like everything was in place. You have the right quarterbacks, coach. Heck, whatever Wes Phillips does, you have Wes’s brain to pick, right? That just everything is here. I’ll admit I was wrong. Right. Clearly wrong because we’re saying it’s not all on JJ. And I thought in August that if JJ were going to fail, it would have been all on JJ. It’s not all on JJ. So, I admit it. I was wrong. Absolutely wrong on that one. Yeah. Uh to be continued here, Doogie. A lot more to be discussed. We’re not going to have our usual Thursday scoop session. We’re all going to be stuffing our faces. Oh, yeah. In one form or another. Uh so the next time we convene when you uh with you will be after Max Brosmer likely plays at Seattle as a 10-point underdog. So should be um you know I will say at least it kind of puts a little exciting jolt shortterm if nothing else into a season that’s very quickly swirling down the drain. We’ll see what happen. Yeah. I mean heck now we’ve seen some crazy seasons. I mean, Alec Lewis brought it up in the in the media room on Monday asking Kevin Seafford and just kind of collectively, hey, you know, this has to be about the craziest Viking season. And we’re like, oh, no, no, no. Yeah, 2010, 2010, like go up and down the list, right? Like, yeah, there’s stuff, but this year doesn’t compare to so many others in the past. But yeah, I mean, it it just it adds even that much more intrigue if it is indeed Max on on Sunday. Grateful for you two. Happy Thanksgiving. Grateful the audience for consuming this product. Have a wonderful, wonderful Thanksgiving. Happy for Kevin Williams, firsttime semifinalist, Pro Football Hall of Fame to me, incredibly deserving. Yes, admittedly biased having covered his career here. But when you think about what, five or six first team, all pro nominations, I mean, all decade team, I mean, I get it. It’s a hard position to quantify exactly like who at that position is a Hall of Famer and who isn’t, but to me Kevin Williams undoubtedly a Hall of Famer. So very happy that Kevin Williams is a first time semi- finalist. Yep. Yep. Uh grateful for your uh intellect and scoopage and opinions on this show as well, Dukes. Appreciate you. We’ll talk to you after. All right. Much love the Vikings Seahawks game boy for Dex and Jud will be back tomorrow here. Purple daily. We just want the Vikings to win a Super Bowl before we die. So, yep.

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