LIVE REACTION POSTGAME SHOW: New Orleans Pelicans vs Memphis Grizzlies

This program is brought to you by FanDuel, where we give sports fans the chance to win every Okay, this damn team. Pelicans lose a close one. I’m all off the I don’t know if my mic working. I don’t know. Start the show as Justin would say. Welcome to another episode of Propos Talk. I am your host here solo. Today, well, ain’t today. Tonight, the day before Thanksgiving, I had all these notes, man. Like all these notes about a win and all this stuff, man. We was about to we about to have a good time in here. And these Yeah. You know, you can’t you can’t invest even like a a percent of positivity. You got to treat them like in the like in the mud. But I digress. Shout out to all the good people that support us here. John Deere Sunshine Task. Uh, we got Fan Duel, we had Scott Vigner, you name it. Um, Justin is texting me. I always All right. But yeah, man. We here. So, I’m just gonna chop it up with y’all in the chat, man. This is pretty much what it’s going to be, man. So, uh, uh, prospect, this a good idea. This a good idea. Lie. Um, if you’re listening, we could just set up the set up the line, let people call in and just talk it all, man. Um, I quit, man. You know, bro, I be saying the same thing, man. But it’s a drug, dog. It’s a It’s a drug. Like, damn, bro. I’m supposed to be recapping. All right. So, the Pelicans lost 133 to 128. Maybe maybe you didn’t see the entire game, but I did. I did. On the same night, BI hit a game winner. Like, go a man. Um like Pelicans couldn’t have played like any better traditionally. Like if you’ have told me they was gonna hit 42% of their threes, like 19 for 45, they were gonna shoot 50% from the field, they were gonna win the turnover battle, only lose the rebound battle by what was it? Nine. If you’d have told me the bench was going to score, was it 35? That’s 49, 55, 61 points. If you would have told me the [ __ ] was going to score 61 points, ain’t no way they was losing this game. The [ __ ] almost outscored the starting five, but we gonna get to that at some point as well. Uh Derek Queen, Jeremiah Fierce, both 10 a piece. Queen 10 and nine. Um I see y’all lining up in the chat, man. Let me let me get through some of this recap stuff and I’mma bring y’all up here. The phone lines are open, so we just going to run it that way. I think Justin will join at some point, but I’mma tell him if you listen to Justin, you do not have to, bro. I got it. Um, Justin had a had a had a loss. Everybody lost tonight. Justin lost tonight. Like, you know, I mean, y’all ain’t lose cuz we here, but I mean, the Pelicans lost. Like Trey Murphy. Okay. Zion five turnovers. Like, I don’t know what was happening at the end of the game with the way the team was trying to run the offense. It goes against exactly what they were trying to do. Peavey had a good game. Hawkins, his best dog, you lost, son. Son, you lost on the night Jordan Hawkins had his best game in ages. You couldn’t win the Jordan Hawkins night. You ain’t winning ever again. God damn, man. Trying to be the one man show. Trying look. Eve me had Jiren Jackson on his knees. And I mean that exactly the way I said it. The brother was sc he was on all fours. I don’t care. It’s by me. I’m by myself. It’s over. Paul’s button out the window. Out the window right now. Jared Jackson Jr. was on his knees. I don’t had a picture. You don’t lose that game, bro. All right, prospect. You here, brother? Can you hear me? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We can hear you, brother. Go ahead. Hey. Hey. You know what? Tonight reminded me of Tonight reminded me of that game when when when Ellen Albertson crossed Jordan and he made that shot, but Jordan still won the game. That’s that that that like like that it was one of those nights like like we had all of the [ __ ] highlights. Excuse my language. I’m sorry. Ah, you cuss. But but but but like we had all the highlights of this game, but we lost. So what do we mean? Prospect. I watch Jaylen Wells. With all due respect, Jaylen [ __ ] Wells take the Pelicans off the dribble and shoot pivot fadeaways multiple times tonight. But hey, bro, honestly, I feel like it was more about the matchups and not any matchup. It’s really one particular matchup is Zack Edy. Zack Edy was the difference maker of this game. you seen like like I know we all may not agree with going small, right? We all may not agree with playing small, but in this game, one thing I noticed every time we went small, I don’t know who Memphis coach is, but when we went small, he took Zack Edy off the floor. So, play small. Zack Edy is who winning in Zack Edy making the difference. So, whatever keep him off the floor, do that. We if if playing small, keep him off the floor. Keep playing small. Yeah. Keep playing small. And the only the only the only person like the only um man like if they if they go small, you know, and and look uh Hey, Davis, Liam, Jaden, uh D boy, I see y’all down there. I’mma uh I’mma bring y’all up in a second here. But, you know, it felt like prospect some of their better lineups to your point was when they got a chance to get out and run. And that’s the McGawan lineups. That’s the Hawkins lineup. That’s Micah Peavey. Micah Peavey for example should have been you you find a way to have him on in the game to close. Um, and unfortunately like that just wasn’t the case. Can we talk about Michael Peasy? Let’s talk about Let’s talk about him. the my problem with with with Peasy, he he start the game off trying to shoot. And that’s what I don’t like. Yeah. Because it it it shows me that if it’s one of those nights where he make his first two three-point attempts, he going to keep shooting threes instead of going to the rim. Like if he would have made his first two threes tonight, I don’t think this game would have been close as it was because by him missing those first couple threes, it forced him to drive to the rim. And that’s what made the difference. Stop trying to shoot threes. That’s not your game yet. I’m not saying he can’t develop it, but that’s not your game yet. All right. Look, prospect, I got a I got a long line of people here, man. Go ahead. Go ahead. Do you think I’mma spin the block? I’m I’mma spin the block. All right, brother. We We’ll come back to you, man. Um Liam, yo, can you hear me? Can you hear me? Yeah. Can you hear me? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Go ahead, bro. Boy, I’m in hell. I’m in hell. You just got here. I’m in hell. No, I saw that whole game. I’m sitting here. I was I was with my girlfriend picking up tables and chairs for her her like Thanksgiving thing cuz I ain’t going to be there. I’m sitting there helping her out. I noticed the game’s on. I’m like, “You know what? I’mma toss on the game. I’mma watch it in the car.” We driving. I’m sitting here watching. I see Trey catching Ally. I’m like, “Oh my god, my boys are back.” I see Jiren Jackson get folded up like a lawn table. Like them tables you was carrying. Yeah. I’m like, “Oh, my boys are back.” I see us go into the half up. I’m like, man, this is it. This is it right here. And then we had that [ __ ] ass third quarter again. And then we we finally managed to way to I guess try to pull it back or mitigate the damage and then Zion gets cheated out of an one at the last second. Jar Jackson Jr. and Zack Edy. Both of them both of them should have been fouled out of the game. Absolutely. any other call. I’m I’m calling it now. Atlanta got hoed out of Zachary Reese. They fa to end up with AJ Cam or uh or Darren. I I’ll I’ll put money on it. There’s no way that those refs can be in that game with that egregious of mis calls. There’s no [ __ ] way. Well, Aaliyah, man, I I appreciate it. Uh te tell me real quick before I before I move to the next person. Why you not going to your girlfriend’s Thanksgiving, man? What what going on y’all? Uh my Thanksgiving uh I’m gonna be with my family. Uh it’s going to be about like an hour away. So I like that. I like that. I like that. Uh yeah, split split Thanksgiving. That’s all right for the family. All right, bro. Bro, I I appreciate you, man. I holl at you. Thanks for holding up. I’ll catch you. All right. A damn. What’s up, my dog? Whoa. What’s good, bro? You all right? Nah, I’m not, bro. I’m I’m not. I’m looking at this I’m looking at this [ __ ] box score here, bro. I’m I’m I’m going through I’m going through the [ __ ] time here, the playbyplay. The Pelicans, Alvin, the Pelicans at the six minute mark. Well, I’m I’m sorry. 7 minute mark. It was a two-point game. The Pelicans got up to nine. They got up to nine. I’m sorry. Nine with what? This is okay. I’m sorry. 6 603. They was up 113 to 104. The lineup that was in the game was Trey, Micah, Sadi, Jeremiah, and Queen and they lost the game. You think they should have closed with that lineup? I don’t know, man. I I’m going I’m I’m curious what you think because I because because I think like I wanted PB on the floor. I feel like Mei Mi had a solid game but Queen had Queen had it going like in the fourth and you know putting Zion back in late everything’s rolling through him and having Mi and Zion on the floor not using him in action it just clogs everything up makes it incredibly tough. I I I don’t know, bro. I I I really don’t know, bro. I There’s a lot of people I would have seen on the floor, and I keep trying to think what lineup I would have wanted out there. And to be honest, I can’t tell you. And that’s the with the injuries right now. That’s the biggest takeaway that I have, bro. To be honest, JB is doing a good job in my opinion of just playing who he can, right? Like it’s like, if you got it going, I’mma let you run. But at the end of the day, you kind of got to go with your star. But how do you how do you manage the star when like example like Mei got it going, right? Like not had it going, but like defensively you needed him out there, but then offensively Derek Queen had it going, but then Bryce was giving like it’s just I think it’s just a tough situation for him to be in right now. And like at the end of the game, this particular team cannot rely on the ISO ball. And that’s what they keep going to. They keep going to the ISO ball because that’s what it is that they that they know. And that’s the one the thing that keeps getting them in trouble until they could rectify that. you gonna keep having an issue especially with the lack of talent because with pool out and Herb out and you know now you starting L Carlo being out you know our limitations are really starting to show. So yeah, I just think come four quarters we won’t be able to sustain when teams, you know, they doing a better job at it at least like the game is competitive. We we don’t completely let go of the rope. But until we can figure out the lineups and I’m interested to see when P comes back what he does and like what happens with Herb. But man, it’s just it’s just a tough situation right now, bro. Tough tough situation. But yeah, to last thing and I I let you go, but uh at least we ain’t getting blown out, right? You don’t see the the big You don’t see the big 30 to seven swings and down 25 and all of that. So, it’s a bad team and we just doing what we can to survive. At least the game was entertaining. They forced it into overtime. You got some stuff you could work on. So, there is upside. just, you know, you know, happy Thanksgiving, I guess. Happy Thanksgiving, bro. Man, you and the fam, man. Be safe, bro. Absolutely, man. Appreciate y’all, dog. Y’all stay safe. Appreciate you, my dog. All right. This [ __ ] sad, bro. I I I don’t I Yo yo, it’s like, why you even What they not? What they now four and I don’t even know anymore. Three and three and 15. Some [ __ ] like that. Three and 16. I don’t know anymore. I Three and 16. I mean, I’m I’m frustrated because they could have went from three and 16 to 4 and 15. Oh, nah. Oh, slow down. All right, Jaden. What’s up, dog? How you doing? What’s up with you, bro? Well, Notre Dame where the Pells Notre Dame with a pel was up by 17 whatever points once again the third quarter. Wo to bite us. I mean they didn’t they didn’t flee the door to rope but again we are just not in a situation right now where we can be going toe-to-toe with anybody until we can figure out these rotations these lineups and all this we cannot be doing toe to toe with nobody because obviously you see every time we don’t toe to toe with any team we we fall apart and we and we fall on the crookies and we just can’t close out the game and they didn’t have John Moran and you still lose the What you what you think about the closing lineup, Jaden? Is that the lineup that you would have went with if that was the lineup you were you were thinking about closing with? Uh, nah. Um, I understand having Mi in there, you know, for defensive purposes, but just like when you’re in a situation when you need a bucket, I would have had clean up in there. I would like to have Jose in there so you at least have some defense and you don’t have Herb right now. But I didn’t like the closing lineup with me, Jose, Z, Trey, and Sadi. I’d like to have another scoreer out there like Queen, you know. Yeah, Queen didn’t have the most points, but he had nine nine assists and he had it going in the fourth quarter. So, I didn’t like the lineup, especially when he needed a bucket in the clutch. Appreciate I got you. Before I get you out of here, Jaden, what kind of bag is that, bro? H I even picked this picture. This is a picture that came up. This a green bag I I put on here for um We’ll go with it. We’ll go with that. All right, bro. Shout out Shout out to Green Bags. Go ahead. What’ you say? Oh, nothing. Just have a great night. Happy Thanksgiving. You too, bro. Happy Thanksgiving. It’s still dope. Yeah, I guess. Ah, [ __ ] Birds got fried on Thanksgiving. God damn. Yo yo. What’s up, my dog? What’s good, man? You hear me? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We can hear you. What’s up with you? I was at the game, right? Oh, man. And Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I got to see that [ __ ] up close. And um is this just me or am I tripping? It seemed like Zion and them rookies ain’t clicking like that. And I was watching up close. What you mean when you say that? I saw I saw I saw a few plays where they was looking them off, didn’t want stream for him, just completely ignoring them. And then Burggo set them too for the rest of the game after I saw Zion go over there and point at the rookies on the floor and told his coaches something and they ain’t played the rest of the game. Um, I don’t know, bro, because I think like, so I don’t think there was no way Fears was gonna close, right? But I think I think Queen between the two, Queen was the only one that that probably would have had a chance. I I just don’t know how Zion could look. I mean, look, they like they rookies, bro. You know what I’m saying? And they and they offensive like they offensively talented rookies on a team that that limits lacks creation. One don’t know one in fears only got one speed bro and the other one you know queen like he’s just super talented bro that it could do a little bit of everything bro he might look at he may not say it but he might he might look at Zion like I’m kind of better with the basketball than you bro in in the half court. I ain’t saying that’s right or wrong, but you can’t like end the day, you can’t be mad at bro for having like for having confidence. That’s that’s what you want. I don’t know if they ain’t rocking with each other or not necessarily, but that’s an interesting observation. I don’t know. Like I I was peeping it out and I was like, “Hold up. Is there a power struggle going on? What’s going on behind the scenes?” Oh man. Cuz that [ __ ] on the offense. Damn, bro. Happy Thanksgiving to you, bro. Hey. Hey. Before you get out of here, bro, what what the You gota You got to tell me what the building was like after uh Mei had that block and stood over, bro. Oh, man. That [ __ ] was crazy. Damn, bro. You can’t leave the game. All right, dog. That [ __ ] was rock. All right, big homie. All right, bro. Happy Thanksgiving. Oh, man. Why are you sniper? What up, Chris? How’s it going, man? What’s up, bro? Nice jersey, man. Thanks, man. Dude, I don’t I don’t understand the the going into overtime with Mei and not bringing Queen. Like, I get like Edy was cooking Queen. Like, I totally get that. Um, but like you ride with that. Like, the Grizzlies is going to score regardless. Like if you have Queen, he’s at least going to create three-point opportunities for Trey, space out Zion a little more, make Edy, you know, go out of the paint more. I just th this loss is an ombrego in my opinion. I just don’t really understand why Queen was not on the floor in overtime. I don’t really understand that. What’s your thoughts on that? Yeah, I I so originally I thought that like before before the sub happened and the Grizzlies started to make a comeback, I was like, “All right, I would close. I would close with Mei.” And I wasn’t sure how they would how they would put how they would put together the other four necessarily, but you think about it, I mean, the simple you you you know, Zion was going to be out there. You know, Jose was going to close over over fears and Sadique and Trey were going to be there. So, I I don’t know if I was if I didn’t mind it because Mei was having a he was having a good game. He was impacting the he was impacting the game defensively, you know. Um but just I mean the offense went to [ __ ] bro. I mean, specifically in the in the half court having Mei in it looked like Willie Green it looked like Willie Green was coaching still for me in the corner and just Zion Ball. Um, and they they did generate a few open looks. Um, but I will say I think once they survived the fourth quarter and getting and gotten to overtime. That is where I’m with you. I would have brought in Queen because you saw you got to be able to see enough there like, okay, we’re not going to stop Edy or Memphis right now more than likely whether Mei or you know, Queen’s out there anyway. Queen had a couple good possessions on Edy, but we’re much better off by being a little bit more creative on the other side. And that’s that’s where you kind of lose me because the offense just was hope Zion get a bucket or create a look for somebody. Yeah, that was kind of my thing because like Mi had a great game like not taken away from him and he was impacting on both ends but like his energy is going to go so far you can’t really roll with him into creating and generating offense in overtime. We scored three [ __ ] points in overtime, man. Three three. And then you have Jose over dribbling every single possession. Again, great Jose game. But this is what I’m talking about, man. Like I think as a as a fan base, we’re just ready to move on. Like we’re just going to beat a dead horse every [ __ ] game until we move on from Zion. And I like love Zion, man. Love him as a player. Like, but he just hasn’t progressed. And it’s it’s time for a new era of Pelicans basketball. We need a breath of fresh air. Burggo is going to be a good development coach in my opinion to be honest with young guys. So, you trade Zion, get rid of Herb for sure because Pavey can do 90% of what Herb can do on a rookie contract. Don’t know why we give him that huge contract and we just roll with Queen and Fear is rebuild and do it the right way. But I also have concerns because I don’t think this front office is going to do it the right way. So, I’m really uncertain. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it, you know, the, you know, it’s tough, bro, because it’s parts of this game that were, you know, that was encouraging, right? Uh Peavey has some moments. Bryce McGawas has had some moments. Um man, Hawk played his ass off. Hulk Hawk played his best game of the season. His I mean his best game in over a year. His best game in quite some time. And you know, I’m you know, I’m talking to uh to uh Mike Cyprien right now and he’s actually, you know, he believes Hawkins should have been on the floor because you need a space and you need a shooting. I don’t hate it. I don’t hate it, you know. But at the end of the day, man, you know, yeah, but I mean, I can’t I can’t disagree with you much, man. It’s just there’s similar to what to what uh D boy was saying. It’s like, you know, you have fears who wants everything right now. Like that’s that’s just who he is. He wants everything, every possession, every bucket. Now, you 19, I get it. Like that’s just that’s his speed. And it’s gonna work some nights, it’s not gonna work some nights. and Queen man at 23 minutes an effortless nine assists. Effortless nine assists, you know, it just it just comes to him easy. Some of the some of the ability, you know, you know, some of the uh the buckets he had comes to him easy. Um who needs to be involved and need to have the basketball and you have someone, you know, like Zion who is as entertaining and fun as he is, he’s limited. And at some point, like you mentioned it, they’re going to have to pick. I mean, I don’t know if we’re there if we’re there yet, but you kind of seen 16, Chris. We’re three and 16, brother. Like, and and I’m tired of like playing both lanes. Like, we’re not going to win anything. Like, we’re not going to Can we just Can we just rip the bandit off? Cut the losses. Let’s go. Let’s give the fan base some excited about like we got Queen. He’s a good personality, too, off the off the court. Fears is a dog. Like, we we can do this if we do it the right way. But this whole like stringing us along, getting into these overtime games with bad decisions. Trey can’t dribble. He’s trying to be an all-star, but he’s really a role player. Like, I’m just over it. Like, I I appreciate the the guy’s effort, but yeah, I think the fan base as a whole, we’re just kind of like it it’s time. You got to pick a you got to pick a direction. You got to pick a side and the quicker you do it, the easier, you know, it helps with with development, man. So, uh Sniper, I appreciate you pulling up as always, man. Uh I’m move on and continue the show here, bro. Happy holiday. You too, buddy. God damn. the [ __ ] And see that’s the thing about like even what Sniper saying like yeah three and 16 but they ain’t going they like we are a couple of months away like we haven’t even officially got into December yet. We’re a couple of months away if there’s going to be movement for any type of real movement with this team to happen. So you gonna have to see nights like this to where you know like dog Joe Hog have 14 bro you know Jordan Hog is scoring 14 it’s like Zion scoring 50 and I ain’t no disrespect to Hulk that’s just how bad and how much he’s been struggling you know score 14 in 15 minutes and he ain’t had to take 14 shots to do it. God damn. Let me get my dog prospect back up here man. Go ahead, bro. You? Yeah. What’s Yeah. What’s up with you, man? You know, what what you have for Thanksgiving, bro? Talk to me. Uh, I’mma have some stuffed bell peppers. Yeah. I’mma have a little macaroni. Uhhuh. You know what I’m saying? I’mma have a little some yams. Yep. Yep. You know what I’m saying? Got to had ham and the turkey. Got Yeah. Yeah. Them them them staples. Them. You know what I’m saying? The the the only Right. But the only thing missing is the pale W. Yeah. No, that would have been that you know that would have been a seven up cake, dog. Like it would have been you know what I like like you know I feel play. I feel play uh prospect cuz like I shouldn’t even be I shouldn’t even be disappointed about a three and 16 team bro. Hey Hey, you Hey, hey, hold up, hold up. Can I take it a step further? Can I take it a step further? Go ahead. You want to know why I feel played? Yeah. Not only because of exactly what you just said, but also because I feel like this was a Carlo game. Like, nobody brought up Carlo, but I feel like like this was a game, Carlo would have made the difference. You know what I’m saying? Cuz we needed a athletic big. Yeah. Nah. Yeah. No, I mean for real, bro. I mean, with with like like like Vince Williams has 17 assists, dog. And I know he been passing that hoe. I know Vince been passing the ball, bro. But god damn, bro. I got limits. I got limits, bro. And my my I I have limits as a watcher. I don’t give a [ __ ] what they’ve been doing. I know Jaylen Williams had a good game yesterday. I have limits. I should not have to see Jaylen Wells score 25 and Vince Williams score 17 and Zion Williamson Zion score 17 and Trey Murphy get 12. I should not see that, bro. Should I see that? The [ __ ] But hey, who who you put that on? Who you putting that on? Zion like like like Zion and Trey, they both scored under 20 points. Who do you blame that on? That’s on them. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Because you want to know what piss me off? Neither one of them demand the ball. Like like y’all y’all the best two players on the team. And when I watch this game, when I watch y’all play, I never see neither one of y’all demand the ball. I don’t see nobody clapping. Hey, hey, hey. I’m open. You know what I’m saying? I like be queen be fighting prospect. But but do you blame Jose? No. No. No. This hold up. Let’s speak on Jose cuz that will piss me off when people try to [ __ ] on Jose. Do you blame Jose? They don’t want the ball. They the stars. They ain’t trying to take these shots. So I’mma make it happen. Yeah. Nah. Nah. No. I I understand. like Zion Zion had a play in which I thought almost lost him a game earlier where um I don’t know it might have been overtime I don’t remember but there was a there was a play where I I think they got an offensive rebound or something happened and Zion is driving down the center of the lane and he goes up in the air and versus either getting to the free throw line or attempting a shot he passed the ball to Mei tries to go up and gets blocked at the rim by was it was it was it coward they might have like just but if you like it’s it’s like the Dallas game prospect. It’s like bro at this point you we we are living the the last eight nine has been living or dying by what you do anyway just take the shot. Exactly. Exactly. But who but who you telling just take the shot? Who who you directing bro? Yes I am. Me too. Me too. He got he I mean he gota he got to take the shot. It’s like dog like like you can’t like but you won’t Hey Chris, can we be real? You want to know why he got to take the shot? Do like can we be honest? The real reason why Zion got to take the shot is because his very first NBA game. What did he do? Yeah. Yeah. What did he do in his first NBA game? He made how many threes? Yeah. Two. Yeah, man. More than more more in that game than he got probably attempted on the year. You know what I mean? But but but but not like not only did he make them, he attempted them. It’s not really about him making them. You attempted them. So you made the defense be honest. And Z, I hope you hear this [ __ ] cuz I know your punk ass be on the internet. But I love you, bro. Cuz you rep my city. Mike Mike and Srian agree with you. Agree with you prospect. He said Carlo would have been perfect in the game as well. Yeah. Yeah. That’s a good point, bro. I feel like Carlo would have made a difference. I really do cuz we needed a big that was like, don’t get me wrong, Mi athletic, but Carlo is athletic, but he can also step out and make a jump. Stress the flow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he could he could show he he like like I ain’t going to say Carlo perfect, but we know you know what I’m saying. You can’t leave him open. Oh [ __ ] My dog my dog a car. What they what they used to call him? Uh uh Carlo Crazy. That what they used to call him. Uh all right, bro. Man, prospect. I gotta I gotta get some other people up here, man. I’m, you know, um, just trying to make the show go. But, but I appreciate you, my dog. Run the show, brother. They left you out here solo. Run your ice. That’s all right, man. You know what I mean? You know, players players got to step up. I’m having my Jordan Hogers performance, dog. You know what I mean? Let’s go. Shout out to Hog. Yeah. Shout out to Hog, man. All right. Sports in three, two, one. What up, my dog? What’s up with you, Chris? What What’s up with you, brother? How you doing, man? Good. Wait for the barter. Give me some of that fried turkey. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, well, look, I mean, the Pelican just got fried, bro. So, what what how you how you how you how you feel about that, bro? I feel like I can’t say Zion or Trey fault. It’s the team fault for not coming out there and letting them boys just handle them. You know, turnovers and stupid [ __ ] You know what I’m saying? You know, I think James Berago when he start to feel her and realize that Fierce start doing turnovers, take him out. Take him out. You know, you got to teach him a lesson, too. You know what I’m saying? Yeah. And then that last one, I’m looking like Jose, you you shooting, but you not no Curry. Don’t shoot that [ __ ] like that. You know what I’m saying? He just went to go off like, man, hold the ball. Slow down. Give it to Zion, you know. Let let And Trey Murphy, he just can’t create [ __ ] dog. He can’t create [ __ ] Just let just let him be a shooter. You know what I’m saying? You know, he ain’t like B. See, Bi Bi gonna cross something up and he gonna get there. You know, Trey, he just look like he just be struggling. You know, he be struggling. So, I don’t know. It’s a whole team, man. Like, you know, I can’t even blame Bergo. You heard me? Because y’all NBA players turn the [ __ ] blow B over with a I’mma say a garbage team right now. You heard me? They don’t have J. They don’t have nothing. And he with J. They ain’t [ __ ] You know what I’m saying? Yeah. Stupid mistakes. They NBA players, bro. Yeah. All right, bro. What bro? I’m about to I’m I’m about to keep it keep it moving here, bro. But look, bro, have a have a good Thanksgiving, man. You know what I mean? You with the family, though. All right, brother. All right, move on. What we got? What we got? We got Who we got? Ghost of David Griffin. What’s up, bro? What up, Chris? Bro, talk to me, bro. You know, you know, you know, three and 16, bro. You know, time’s not good. Bleak [ __ ] looking bleak. You know, um, so you got some positivity, bro. What you got? What you got? But they about to they about to change it. Hell no. Hell no. Trey Murphy. Look, it look like Trey Mur, man. You could pack that up. Positivity ship. What’s wrong? What’s wrong with Trey? Come on. What’s wrong with Trey, bro? Why? Why? Why shots? It looked like It looked like last year Trey was starting to figure out how like he was starting to You know what I’m saying? Like he was trying to figure out he was starting to figure out how to do this and how to do that. Like, oh, I could Oh, this how you dribble. Oh, okay. This is how you shoot off the dribble. He started putting some things together last year. Then this year he he don’t know when he he he don’t know when. He look like he figured out how a little bit he don’t know when to go. He don’t know which which which button to push at what you know like Okay. It’s like it’s like you got a bunch of you got a bunch of weapons, but you don’t know which one to pull out at what part of the you know what I mean? I can see that Trey be zigging when he z. You feel me? He zig when he should have z. Analysis analysis. Shut up. hashtag. You know what I’m saying? Look, look who here, bro. Look, look who look brought up, bro. Look, look. I heard P prospect talking [ __ ] about you be Myers pulled up. Yeah. Yeah, man. Look what’s up, guys. But look, another thing, too. I see everybody everybody talking about Zion. Everybody Everybody talking about Zion. I think the main thing that got everybody frustrated with Zion, it’s like, bro, you should buy more. Like, we should be seeing so much more. It’s been all this time and it’s still no jump shot. It’s still the movement’s not there. They got a lot of time. Like, you seen Barago, your boy pointed it out on the broadcast. Bergo was telling them, “Press the ball.” Like, Z been in the league for six years. you still get the coach still having to literally tell you what to do from the sideline and then you supposed to be one of them ones. Like you clearly like taking yourself out of that like you completely removing yourself from that conversation even being in consideration for being in that tier whenever people keep having these same conversations. Yeah. Well, look well look, bro. I I got I got one more question before we leave, man. People want to know if you in witness protection, bro. They they they want to know why you’re in the dark and and and if everything is okay. Are you in a safe place? I’m not I’m not in the crib, man. I’m in my truck. I was smoking. Oh, okay. I mean, I’m about to say, you know, you you know, you ain’t had to you a disclose your location, bro. I just, you know, All right. Well, cool, bro. Well, appreciate you for pulling up, man. Yeah, it’s just the jacket. All right. Cool. All right. You know, cuz you know, happy Thanksgiving. Yeah. Happy Thanksgiving, bro. All right, dog. Let’s Thanks for checking up on me, dog. Yeah, man. We just, you know, we just trying to make sure everything All right, bro. You know, because, you know, crazy [ __ ] happen. People be getting kidnapped. All kind of crazy [ __ ] It’s Thanksgiving. All right, bro. I’mma holl at you, man. Nah, man. I’m sure. All right. Yo, stay later. Um, look who the [ __ ] showed up. Yeah. Wow. I want I wanted to talk about the last talk about the last five minutes. You You want to talk basketball? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we got to talk about it. We got talk about man cuz I watched I’ve been watching the whole time. Um I’m interested on like okay so I’ve been going back and forth right like what would I have changed in the for in overtime and on one side Mis was doing a great job defensively so you’re getting enough stops but on the other side you were playing four on five so like Zion basically and then with Zion you’re playing three on five because Zion’s got one move so the game plan was very simple you just you just guard the hell out a Trey contain Jose let him shoot makes a couple he makes a couple and then you live with Sadique Bay and I’m thinking Chris like I was listening I was conversation I think someone said Jordan Hawkins and I’m like okay so if you put Hawk in just say you put Hawk in from me how the [ __ ] you get a stop okay so then you say maybe peeve okay how you get a stop the only other option in my opinion would be Queen. Yep. And my point with Queen is yes, they like Edy like was cooking Queen on those queen lineups, but Queen was also answering on the on on the other side. Like he hit a couple jumpers. I thought he I think he he made a long two. I thought it was a terrible shot, but made a long two with his foot on the line. I think he rimmed out a three. Like I would have at least gone once I saw we couldn’t score like two and a half two minutes left. You question okay we can get we can get stops but we can’t score. So, it’s like a huge like it’s just a balance here, Chris, where I’m like I’m trying to play it back, but like Yeah, I don’t answer. I don’t know if there’s an answer. And that was the issue, Justin, because I was talking to I was talking to to uh watching the game, I had I had thoughts and then later on I had other thoughts and I’m talking to Just Davis. I’m like, man, I’m thinking about seven possible players that I could maybe think about having out there, but none of them bring the right complete unit I would want necessarily. And then I’m like to Sniper’s point, minimum though. Yeah. No, no, no, no. He was great. Minimum regardless of what the right move was, Queen should have started overtime. Once you survive the fourth quarter and you got what about five you got about four or five minutes at the end of the fourth quarter with with that lineup and you survived. You saw that the offense wasn’t clicking. You saw that like um it was just Zion ball. So can I address the sniper because yeah, you got called a [ __ ] Guess what we get called on a daily basis. Like that’s that’s part of the game. Who called him a [ __ ] Who called you a [ __ ] bro? On Thanksgiving. Damn, don’t do that. That’s tough. That’s tough, you know. But I mean, it’s just, you know, it’s tough, bro. Like, it was it was I mean, I son, the [ __ ] up part, Justin, is that there was so much fun in this game, bro. So much fun. So much fun. Young, that’s the So, like, look that. And like I think that’s part of the conversation, Chris, why why me and you were so frustrated. I’m sure the fan base is frustrated and people in the comments. It’s like we had an awesome brand of basketball tonight and back-to-back nights, right? You scored 74 in the first half against Chicago. You scored what 68 against Memphis tonight in the first half. And you have the third quarter. Woes. But I saw you tweet something out, Chris. They they responded with a run in Memphis. Memphis make a run. Okay, timeout or whatever. Regroup. We make a run. and so forth. Instead of these like 30 to four runs and 27 to2 runs, you saw the team battling back. You saw adjustments. You saw good basketball, right? Teams are going to make runs. You made your run, they made their run. You made your run. They the problem is just this crunch time situation. I read a couple tweets tonight like like they there’s just no like who gets it. Like so I think there might have been like a minute and a half left, two minutes. I’m like Zion hadn’t touched the ball or done anything. I think finally Jose like broke him down and then Zion just cut from like literally half court and it was an incredible like layup and that’s what get got Zion going but then they just can’t figure it out Chris like look we can talk about it like with five or six seconds left Zion ties the game it’s a foul. I mean he gets he gets fouled. They don’t call it. You go into overtime and lose and it’s just like when will this team ever win crunch time? That’s like the final hump dude. Uh, I don’t know. So, what do you what do you think about um Yeah. What do you think about the like Burggo developments as we go game by game? Like what what do you what are you seeing like like there? So, there’s certain things that there’s certain patterns that at least like I’ve noticed in the past two games with how he’s handling Queen and Fierce kind of raining them back a little bit. Um they may end up starting but they’re playing a little bit less. Fears. Maybe more so Fears, but I don’t love I don’t Let go. Let Queen go. Let him go. I get Fierce. Fears. Fears is a very talented point guard. He needs to learn the ropes. Yeah. Queen has shown you like he can change games. Yep. Like there he is an offensive hub and I just I know Burggo talked about a couple days ago like he wants to take he wants Queen to take it more seriously and so on so forth. He said some of that stuff in post as postpractice. Okay. um stuff. And I get like like Queen’s kind of a goofball, but like it’s kind of refreshing to be honest with you. But I do understand the point of like, hey, this is a business like you need to be a professional and there’s things he will learn along the way. It’s just I don’t like ganking queen because with Queen, man, like and and if correct me if I’m wrong, someone in the chat correct me if I’m wrong or Chris correct me if I’m wrong. When the ball is going through Derek Queen, how much offball movement do you see? I’m serious. That’s it’s Jordan Hawkins. It’s Mike Peavey. It’s Josie Alvarado. It’s Trey M. Like the list goes on and on and on. Uh, okay. Justin Justin, hold on. Hold on. It’s a day before like this this a family show. Most people going to be with their family tomorrow. [ __ ] that. You open up the showite. No problem. I said that while I was by myself. When I was by myself trying to hold this [ __ ] down. While I was trying to While I was trying to pie for seven people. You come up here and talk about people getting yanked left and right. What we need to do now is get focused and stop pointing fingers. You’re a problem. You’re a real real problem. I know. I was saying Derek Queen’s an offensive hub. That’s what I was saying. Like he deserved to close tonight. I I I get it. Like Chris, like okay, if you’re Burrigo, would you have changed anything? I know you have this kind of conversation, but if there was one thing you changed in overtime, what would it be? It would have been Queen once I saw Mei Mei standing in the corner and not being and not being you like I was having flashbacks. I’m like, “No, like this can’t because like Justin and you gota you gota like okay unless there were there were times later on in the game well later on or in different possessions throughout overtime in the fourth quarter where they did use me as a screener in other parts of the floor but the periods where he was in the corner and Zion has the ball either the top of the key at the wing even for possession I don’t understand at that point the only way to get him involved is either have him dunking spot have him screening or have him in some type of action with the ball handler. So that that those possessions where he’s in the corner is where you lose me cuz I don’t understand what the point of it is. Okay. So you bring up a really good point. There was one possession in overtime. I think Zion gets at a high post. It’s it’s kind of like broken down. Then all of a sudden cuz they’re playing off me, right? He sets a flare screen to where he hits Trey Murphy in the slot. Z hits Trey Murphy wide open in the slot and he misses. And that’s his only shot attempt of the night. I don’t know why they wouldn’t go back to the flare action, especially if Mei if Me’s man’s off. But like once again, Chris, like I don’t know. I forget who’s guarding Trey, but it was like this. I mean, it like there was no room to operate. Yeah. Yeah. It’s tough because you’re so limited. You’re so limited. I mean, like Memphis is a gigantic team, but man, um there’s so much good. There’s so much good. Do you have that uh do you have that picture by chance where where uh where Mei has Jiren Jackson Jr. looking up to the looking up at the stars in a fetal position on his knees? Justin like I would I would love to talk about that. I love to talk about Micah Peavey’s Euro step. Why can’t we talk about that? Why can’t we talk about the the uh the power the power dribble from Mike P the the punch dribble from Michael Peavey? Why can’t I talk about that? I love talking about Jordan Hawkins. Why Why can’t we talk about Jordan Hawkins having his best game? Tell me. I mean, I I love to talk about the Queen of Trey Murphy Lob just to uh just think about all the like just think about all the [ __ ] moments in the game and we can’t talk about it because we still have a team that can’t close with Zion Williams because we saw him figure out blocked Jiren Jackson Jr. twice and then Jose on the same night and then Jose Alvarado hits a transition corner three and like that’s the loudest smooth king center has been in like two years. Um can can I bring up another game winners? [ __ ] that. Um no I’m happy to see Brandon actually succeed in Toronto. Yeah. Um Chris, can we talk about one more thing? I think it’s the elephant in the room. One more thing. Yeah, one more thing. Shout out Leo. I mean like can Zion spin back right? Can that can that be a thing? I mean I mean literally can it be a thing? I I don’t I get it. I get Look, he just like has H has he developed anything in his game? A lot of people like, “Oh, you’re just hating on Zion.” Let me ask you this. Has he developed anything since year 1 to year seven? A jumper, footwork, ball handling, up and unders, screening, rolling, short rolling, playmaking. has he ju just ask yourself that if if the answer is yes, shout out to you. But from what I’m seeing, every [ __ ] in the NBA in the game plan, he’s going left. He’s going left. He’s going left. Why don’t you just start spinning right and finish with your right? He had the I mean, unfortunately, the little the little pullup runner or jumper that Stop. I’m sorry, Chris. Teflon, you’ve been saying some crazy [ __ ] You’ve been saying some crazy [ __ ] Shaq. Go ahead. Well, wait. You could do that. Shaq Shaq was 72, 300 lb. Uh, and he was running a [ __ ] gazelle with Penny Hardway. Like, are you what? Yeah. Yeah. Also, in the finals, you know, like there’s levels to this [ __ ] guys. There’s levels. You can’t say that. You can’t say incredible footwork. Really good passer. Uh Shaq Shaq was more than just power. But I I mean I I I get where you trying to go with a tough line, but you can’t we can’t compare Zion to Shaq because at least because look, bro, with Zion, it has been seven years. And the problem with Zion is that it’s not what he hasn’t developed. Justin, it’s the things that he has that he won’t attempt. What does he have in your opinion? I don’t think he’s attemper tonight. He attempted a meeting. But listen, I don’t think he’s a god aful shooter. He just won’t shoot it. And let me let’s have a deeper conversation. Let’s have a deeper conversation then, Chris, because, you know, I’m listening to Tom Brady talk and and Brady was always like I was never nervous because I was always prepared. I always prepared. I always, you know, practiced and and practice live game reps. And you talk about same thing. Do you think Zion works on his jumper every single day at a max speed where he thinks he’s comfortable using that in the game? No. There’s your problem. That’s my thing. He’s not working on it. So, he’s not confident in it. No. When he does shoot it and he misses it, it breaks his confidence automatically. Yeah. No, he he Zion Zion works on basketball during company hours. That’s it. There’s never any extra work. You never really see him during the summer. Like that. That’s my thing. It’s it’s the reason why haven’t we seen him develop anything is well he doesn’t work like he doesn’t work on it. Like that’s like there should be if you work on it and you put in the work and you trust your work, you’re going to shoot that jumper every single time it’s open, Chris, because you know eventually you’ll find your rhythm. But see this this why this what I was telling Leo uh Justin when you know he was talking about why Justin I mean Justin why Zion doesn’t take more more shots is because he can’t it’s impossible dog for him to take more for him to take 20 shots a night. Why he can’t because everything his game is too limited and he’s not seven he’s not Giannis he’s not 611 or 610 he’s 65. Name one thing Zion’s improved since year one. Can you name one thing? I think that’s a serious question. No, I mean that that that little pullup midi maybe. Okay. How many times? We didn’t really see that year once. How many times How many times did you see it in a game? Maybe once, two, maybe. Um I can’t I can’t tell you enough that he’s improved that he actually shows game in and game out consistently. So that’s the problem. I it’s just like so, you know, we’re talking about Berego and in substitution packages in overtime, which is fair. It’s a fair conversation to have, fair opinion. What did Zion do in overtime to help your team? I I I personally I didn’t see anything. Now, you could say he’s playing four and five. Okay. Well, did Z I think he’s a better He’s Okay, I I got you. He’s a better playmaker. Okay. He’s a better playmaker. Do you think Zion made us better tonight in overtime? Did he make you worse? Superstars got to make you better, right? Max money players got to make you better. I’m not I’m not No, no, no. That That’s over. You sign a super max deal. The New Orleans Pelicans. Did you make your team better tonight? You give a chance to win. Some can say, “Yeah, sure.” But winners win that game in overtime. He’s you’re supposed to win in the fourth quarter. Chris, he went 0 for three. He went 0 for three with two turnovers. Yep. Yep. I agree. Look, Nolic. Take the jumper. No, I agree, dog. Just take Just take the jumper, dog. Just Just please, bro. Just take the stand still. Just take the jumper. I don’t care for Just shoot it every time. Just shoot it every time. I I’d rather that than have Jose up a three like you know with six seconds left up on the shot clock like Chris he could tough line he’s never getting these calls that’s the thing we’ve been here seven years we’ve been here seven years though fair or not right or wrong he’s never consistently got a good whistle he gets f you could argue he gets fouled every single possession they’re not giving him calls especially not in crutch time they’re Not. They’re not. So, so at some point to like you can’t keep trying to run into a brick wall. You got to you have enough evidence to say this is just what I’m what I’m up against. And the only way that he could change this the only way he could change this is by making his game easier. And I’m not saying he got to he got to turn into [ __ ] um a stretch four overnight, but I mean, dog, he got to take more jump. What are we talking like? Okay, like Zion went seven of 15 with five turnovers and five rebounds, 17 points. Sadique Bay had 18 points, six of 13 from the field, 10 rebounds. Like Michael Pee 11 points, four of nine. How many How many people outrebounded him tonight? One, two. Mi out rebound, Jose Tidman rebounds. He just doesn’t do enough to impact winning. It’s a very s look and you’re gonna ask well where’s this team gonna be without Zion? They’re gonna be three and [ __ ] 16. Like it is what it is. I’ve just I I’ve I’ve seen enough. Like I’ve just seen enough. And I think I forget who said it, but like I think it might have been um ah [ __ ] what’s his name? Um I just [ __ ] compliment him. I forget I’m forgetting his name. By sniper. Um, he said just rip the band-aid off cuz Chris Uhhuh. Okay. Change coaches, change different styles. But once again in crunch time again tonight, what did you do? Well, I mean, and I’ll say this, man. Yeah. I mean, listen, it’s it’s not that he doesn’t get any calls, bro. is that when his entire game is predicated around his driving ability and in close shots, he does not he’s not getting he should probably go to the line close to 20 times a night, but we know it’s not going to happen. So, I mean, the rate is different because everything everything is like 11 11 is low for the type of game he has. That’s how like that like that he he should he should live there even a lot more. We should be talking about SGA kind of nights where he’s at the line prime James Harden nights to he’s at the line 20 18. He’s not getting them those those kind of calls. He’s not getting those kind of nights consistently. It’ll never happen. Um Chris, so out of the 15 Yeah. before before we continue on Zion. Yeah. We also got to talk about Trey, right? Or you got to talk about Trey. I got to talk about Trey. Um um so I call the second half when we got Troy 5126 from deep. Yeah, Trey struggle. Uh I thought he had a couple open looks. Um they could have hit and he didn’t. Um it’s I don’t want to make an excuse for Trey, but Jesus Christ. I mean, how are you expected to shoot the basketball when literally there is somebody that’s going to like just fully deny you? Like, you’re be in full denial. Now, you could say we need to set back screens and open up shooters and blah blah blah, but yeah, he wouldn’t he wasn’t very good, especially down that stretch. Um, Trey Murphy, yeah, 206. He wasn’t uh he wasn’t good. And that’s the funny part, Chris. Trey Murphy and Zion Williamson, in my opinion, weren’t very good. And you still scored 125 points. You got to win that game. What’ you say the bench was? What? How much the bench score? 60 something points. I forgot, bro. 68 points. Some [ __ ] like that. Jordan Hawkins had a [ __ ] career night. Like night. [ __ ] Five of nine, four of eight from deep. Like he looked like he was playing free. Can we get back to Zion? Because this is where the the conversation all surrounds. Like like do they look better tonight, Chris? Like do they look like a better team from years or from games past? Would you say they look better? They had they had moments. Yes. Yeah. Do you think that with Bergo? Do you think he’s using Zion the right way? How do you use Z? Um, no. Okay. Can you can you explain why? I I’ve never liked I’ve never liked seeing Zion set up on the block or elbows or wings. I’ve always I’ve always thought having him in the center of the floor matters whether it’s at the free throw line or is it whether it’s at the three-point line. Kind of like Queen, would you say? Would you would you say would Okay. Yeah. Do you think Zion can run the offense like Queen runs the offense? I do not. Why? Just don’t think he’s as he’s he’s as good as Queen in that in that part of the game. He’s not as skilled that No, I don’t think I don’t think he views the game in the way that Queen does when Queen has the basketball there. No. And and this is a I’m him forever. This is a good point. I’m glad you brought this up because this is like what I wanted to talk about, right? So like without Zion or I’m sorry, you have Mi on the floor, Zion’s got nowhere to drive. Completely agree. Okay, so you couldn’t go with Derek Queen either. I mean, you could have, but the the Grizzlies were going to defend that that way even with Queen. So I’m just trying to get at like what else could you have done because you weren’t going to get stops defensively? Queen gives you a better chance offensively. Yeah. But I think Memphis is going to score every single time down. I don’t know, man. Like we’re talking in circles now. I’m just frustrated. No, I mean if you Justin, if you if you consistently worry about how you gonna stop Zack Edy, you already lost. Yeah. Like we couldn’t stop Zack Ed. You already you already lost. Stop Zack Ed. If it’s like, okay, we gota we gota like if it comes down to we got to stop Zack Edy to win the game, you lost. But but it goes but you’re right, Chris, but then it goes back to the other point. So offensively, we’re blaming Mi, but when does Zion get blamed that he can’t shoot a jumper? He can’t shoot a 15-footer. So now we can have Edy and Jiren Jackson Jr. just [ __ ] camped in the lane. Like I get it. We can blame me all we want, but Zion can’t shoot a 15-footer. I mean, seriously, Chris, he can’t shoot a 15. Name a supermax player that can’t shoot a 15footer consistently. Can you name I’m serious. Can you name one person, one player that can’t shoot a 15-footer making super max money? I’m having a really hard time thinking of one. Maybe in the past. Maybe not right now. No, I’m not talking about I’m talking like right now. No, right now. Not off the top of my head. No, it’s like Yeah, like sure, blame me all you want. At the end of the day, that dude is making the most money on the team. He’s supposed to be the superstar. You’re supposed to be your number one overall pick and he can’t shoot a 15-footer consistently. It’s Me’s fault. Burggo’s fault. Fine. Blame him. It’s great. Willy’s fault. Even better. But you know, you know, you know, Zion’s Zion’s going No, no, no. Flight. No, no, no. Flight. No, no. Flight. Y can shoot a 15footer. Can shoot three-pointers. I said nobody said a fivefooter might be generous. Think think about what we’re asking here. This is also another really good point. 504 Fresh LC. I’m sorry, Chris. I know we’re dragging along. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. You’re late to the show. It’s all right. You You think they try to That’s a good point. I was thinking about that. Go ahead, Chris. You know though, there’s going there is going to be a stretch. And December is usually it for Zion. December is usually traditionally where he really starts to get it going. He’s not a super max player, Bob. There’s going to be a period, let’s say soon, but if not soon, at at some point, where he goes on a run? He goes on a Zion run. Then what? Zion. What? The Zion run of what are you asking? Then what do the Pelicans do? I mean, I guess I mean, at that point, you just told me he can’t get to 20 shots. No, no, no. I No. You know what? He’s got another run in. He’s just going to be more a Zion run means he’s he’s not going to shoot seven for 15 from the floor. That’s what that means. So, he’s got to go what? 12 of 15 every single night. 13 15 to be productive. No. No. 10 10. I mean, if he’s 10 of 10 of [ __ ] 15, that’s fine. if he’s if he’s got them I mean it’s night where he’s nine for 12 and he go to the free throw line like I mean it’s just I mean but but you know I do think that um this is partially just just frustration Justin frustration of watching the same thing happen over and over and a three and 16 team a three and 16 team but as limited as Oh yeah of course we’re always overreacting [ __ ] it it’s Hey. Hey, [ __ ] You know what, guys? This is what we do, man. Hey, we’re three and 16. We We got Golden State next, then a backtoback in LA. You know, love where we’re headed here. We got Jordan Pool coming back. We still can’t figure out crunch time. I’m over I’m overreacting. I’m over Okay, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Prospect. Prospect got some words, bro. And then we’ll And then we Yeah, Prospect, go ahead. I’ve tried kicking out prosper like four different times. Go ahead. Freddy, go ahead. Just What’s up, my guy? Hey. Hey. What What pissed you off most about this game? Wait, what pissed me off? Yeah. Yeah. Most about this game here. Good question. Um, and this is not a shot at him. I don’t want to like Josie Alvarado had the most shots in overtime. I would say the I would say the process the process of crunch time is is the most frustrating for me. I agree with you. But at the same time, I feel like Jose, he shouldn’t have even been on the floor. You know what, Prospect? You’re probably right, but Jose Alvarado, whether we like it or not, led the [ __ ] team in scoring and went nine of 15 from the field and six of 11 from deep. word that that aa that’s not what it’s about. That’s not what it’s about. What you been drinking, dog? What you been drinking, brother? Huh? I’ve been drinking a lot. I’ve been drinking a lot. But what though? What the What the What’s What’s been What’s been the drink of choice tonight, bro? A lot. But look, nah, nah. I’ve been wanting to talk to the funniest moment to the [ __ ] Yeah, I was talking. But nah nah. But listen listen. This what I’m saying. This what I’m saying. Yeah. Cuz I’ve been waiting to talk to you about this. Talk to me. I’m ready. I’m not mad with Jose. But I just feel like in the clutch moments of this game in particular. Mhm. Like Jose shouldn’t have been out there. I know Jose did his thing in the earlier moment of the game. Like I watched this game from start to finish. But like when it came down to crunch time, we should have went big. Like don’t get me wrong, like, okay, like Memphis was playing to how we was playing the whole game. Like when we went small, they took Zack Edy off the floor, but at the same time, he was in foul trouble. So they had no choice. Yeah, they had no choice. So at the at the ending point of the game, we should have played big. So who So if you you’re saying play big, who would you who would you have played? I would have played Ni at the five. I would have put Queen at the four. I would have put Z at the three, put Trey at the two, and at the one. You know what? Matter of fact, I done put Zion at the one. Okay. Okay. So, who plays a three then? That would be Sadique. Sadique. Okay. Now, if that didn’t work, then I will put Zion at three and let Fierce run the one. Not not not Jose. For the simple fact, we needed more sides. So, not not not to say not to say Jose was playing bad, but I just felt like we needed more. We No, you you know, I’m trying not to make it a pause moment, but we needed a bigger we needed a bigger point guard. Like, don’t get me wrong, like like like Jose do his thing, but he a little [ __ ] Like, I’m sorry. Forgetting my But but like can I can I can I intervene here real quick? Cuz the problem shots you, bro. You know, you’re my guy. The The problem wasn’t defense. I don’t think you had to go bigger. I’m just thinking you needed more off. No, no, no, Chris. But I just think you needed more offense because you got enough stops, but you know, you’re saying take Jose out. You do realize that Jose Alvarado scored all of your points in overtime. All of them. But listen, listen. This is what I’m saying. Okay, you’re right. You’re right about that point. But at the same time, we at a we we had the upper hand this whole game. Like like we dictated the way this whole game went and we choked it. That’s why this game made me so upset. Like we had the upper hand. This we like like we decided how this game went the whole week cuz you play with and we lost. You you play with pace prospect, right? you play with you saw a lot of like just pace pace pace pace in overtime and in and crunch time situations. The reason why you struggle is that you can’t play pace. What happens is that you play half court basketball in and you know four minutes left down, you know, four minutes into overtime, you’re playing half court basketball. So at that point it really becomes a matchup dependent, you know, offense and defense, right? And so, right, I see your point and I see Berago’s point because you I thought Jos Alvarado was your best offensive player tonight. Like he literally was and you couldn’t score. The problem though which presented it was the Mi situation. Now you have to juggle the question, okay, Queen was getting cooked by Edy. You worry about getting enough defensive stops, but offensively you would have scored. Maybe you’ve gone match with them with Edy, but you bring in Ni, you get enough snaps, but you have no offense. So, it’s like what what do you go with? Like, I probably would have gone with Queen. I We got to We got to We got to move on. Prospect. Prosper been up here three times. He drunk. Hold up. No, I’m not drunk. Nah, [ __ ] I’m not drunk. I’m not drunk. I’ve been I’ve been waiting for Justin to get up here cuz I’ve been waiting to talk to Justin. I ain’t gonna cap to you. I ain’t drunk, [ __ ] No cap. Bro, nah. Nah, you ain’t about to do me that. You ain’t about to do me that, Chris. Nah, you you you’ve been rocking an ISO all game. Nah, you ain’t about to score on me. I be down. But look look look. Okay, let me say one more thing and I’m gone. Listen, I just feel like this game was like very matched up matchup dependent and we just we just didn’t pick our matchups right. You think maybe the roster is just limited? No. No, don’t. I I I feel like we have a player for every situation, but it’s always something that hinders it, you know, like like like either that player hurt. Like I said, this would have been a perfect Carlo game, but guess what? He not available. That’s a good point, Prospect. That’s really good point. That’s what I’m saying. I feel like we have we have the perfect player for every situation. It’s just not they not always available. Prospect. Now everybody else wants to talk. You know what? Happy Thanksgiving, bro. I always appreciate. Happy Thanksgiving. Always appreciate you coming on the show. Quanza, Hanukkah, all that. Shout out to you, man. Thanks, bro. Hey, be safe out there. All right. For sure. Later, bro. Yeah, I’m glad. Great question, Deep Fresh. Did you see that Euro stuff in trans? I didn’t know he had it in the bag. Couple of I probably go top five. Might be better than her. It’s better than Oh, Mike Peavey did have a nasty ass tonight. You know what, Dresco? You You know Ball. He knows Ball. All right, we got a couple more and we’ll get out of here. Sorry, Chris. What’s up? Whoa. What’s good, fellas? How you doing, bro? What’s up, bro? Welcome back. Good. Good. So, real quick, I just want to kind of lighten the mood a little bit. Let’s lighten the mood. Okay. I think I think the overreaction and the frustration is real and it’s fair and warranted, right? You’re three and 16. You just lost that game. You blew the game to Dallas. You blew this one tonight. So, it’s kind of a situation where you see the potential and then you still keep losing these games. So, that part is frustrating. But let’s think about this. About a week ago, maybe two weeks ago, Willie Green was your coach. Willie Green was still your coach, right? Is this where we’re at, bro? No, I’m just This is where we’re at. This is where we’re at. Let’s just Let’s just hear me out. Hear me out. Two weeks ago, Willie Green was your coach in that in the time in the What is it? It’s been seven games since then. Seven games since then. In the seven games since then, you’ve seen them play at a essentially at a record pace with minimal like the roster is still not whole, right? So, even in the games that we think that they should win, it’s still a bad team with bad habits that we’re trying to overcome. We just were hoping that they would be competitive and not losing by 30. And and look, Justin Davis, you’re not wrong. Um, appreciate all your support, by the way. Um, love y’all, man. Make sure I love you too, man. Make sure you check out his show as well. He does a really good job. Justin Dav, let’s talk about this. Appreciate Dave. That’s where Chris, he brings up a good point. Like, that’s where the bar is. And he’s completely right though. Like you’re one and six, right? Under Barago. One and six. Are you? [ __ ] God damn. That’s three. So we lost three in a row. Then you lost to Dallas. You lost to Atlanta. Yeah. You’re one and six. Then you beat Chicago. Mhm. The product is better. The the identity, the process is better. The process is better. Still not it’s not still not equaling the wins. Now this is very unfair, right? Like you you have to implement a brand new system seven g or whatever it is, you know, uh 12 games into the season or whatever. Yeah, you have like two or three practices, but you can already tell it’s better. Um Chris, now the bar is low because at the end of the day, yeah, we have a better You’re still losing games and you don’t have a first round pick. So, it’s frustrating. So, there there’s still like this level of frustration. The the watch is way better. You’re still not winning games, though. It’s a better product. It’s a more It’s a more exciting product. And there there’s a lot to take away uh from for the present and the future. It’s just you don’t have a draft pick next year and you’re three and 16. So, every every game you don’t win that you that you should have won, you should have found a way to win, it hurts a lot more. And we’re here having conversations and being overly critical because you really should have won the [ __ ] game. That’s it. But the details of it, the details of it tell you that the team is playing much better. Like they they tried like hell to win the game tonight. They didn’t look like a three and 16 team for most of the night. Yeah. Uh sports from 321. What’s up, Justin? What’s up, bro? Got Chris and Justin here. See you, James Brigal. Okay, Justin. Okay. Okay. What would you do with Trey? Would you make him be the shooter he was used to be or a driver? Yeah. Um, fair question. I That’s actually a really good question. I think Trey is trying to expand his game and I I appreciate him trying to expand his game, but I like to get him back to like where he like Lo explained this perfectly to me a couple days ago. Four dribbles or less. If you can’t get to the cup in four dribbles or less, just get back off it. pace it. Um I I think you’re starting to see Burggo use him more. Like he had a great like great couple flare screen sets for Trey today. He just missed. Um but Trey gets caught up sometimes where you know I think he got ripped late in that game where he’s just trying to make a play and his handle’s just not there yet. Um I like to see him more of just you know one two three dribble drive try to get to the cup. If not bounce back out, chase off of it and go from there. But sometimes Trey gets um kind of lost in no man’s over excited. Yeah. Yeah, he gets a little over excited over dribbling and stuff like that, but man, when he gets going like you’ve seen you’ve seen nights though, sports in 321, like you’ve seen nights where he’s dropping 40 and I mean his efficiency is serious. Like he’s not over dribbling. He he’s off ball movement, back screening, back cuts, curling, like he’s doing a lot more stuff like that instead of That’s the old Trey. Yeah. From the size of a defender. Yeah. We got enough people that you got enough people that’s that could drive and take the ball. He needs to just sit back and just settle down for a jump shot or a a pump fake and go straight to the goal. That’s why I feel he trying to do BI too much. He trying to do what BI you did, but he ain’t got it like that. One thing, see, but but hold on. I I do want to say this though. Uh cuz I I forgot who he was talking to earlier. And I understand this from I understand this part from human element, right? You work so [ __ ] hard in the offseason. I actually see Trey work out [ __ ] right? So, you work so hard in the offseason and then last year you got a chance to put most of it on display. Having to reel that [ __ ] back to be more of a to to to fit into a old version of yourself. I don’t know if that’s as easy as we want it to be, bro. Like I I’m not saying he right for it cuz it with fit the team more right now it’s him doing a little bit less I think but I understand somebody that’s like damn bro like I was averaging 20 last year I improved everything with the ball and now I got to go back and revert the average 20 without Z. If you got to go back you got to go back because you got to do what you could do that’s best for you. You can’t just you know you can’t just be like oh I’m Steph Curry or somebody now. Oh, you got to you got to be who the who you are, you know. Oh, lord. And every time Trey Murphy goes to the goal, he hit the floor. Boom. He that foul f they cry over foul clay ball. Ain’t nothing you can do about this [ __ ] now. You know sports, bro. I don’t know what’s Hey Sports, you in the you in the dining room. I’m ready to man. You ain’t got a You ain’t got a hat on. You got a haircut. Look, he got like lined up like look at you got what say bro? Is that that’s that that’s paint or what? That is I mean why you why you Huh? That’s a paint right there. What you talking about right here? Uh hello. Oh, what? Huh? I can’t have art in my house. The mic on? No, I ain’t I ain’t I ain’t got a mic. All right. Where you at? Thank you. Where you at? A cocktail. That cocktail. Yeah. Is that Is that Edna? Yeah. Did you just get it delivered by the way? Like wait wait wait. Why you wait a second? No. No. My wife said I go buy it. So I And then she delivered you eggnog. Huh? She a [ __ ] angel. And then she just delivered you eggnog on the [ __ ] angel. Shout out to Lee. You wearing the outfit tomorrow. Crazy. this. Yeah. No, no, no, no. I’m first. Okay. AS, what’s up, dude? I wanted the pod, man. We’re going to pod. Aris, y’all had a y’all had a good conversation that I want to be a part of. Okay, let’s talk about Aerys, what you got? We’re gonna try one more time. AS, what you got? Damn it. Aris, this I tried. I tried. Prospect’s not coming back up. He go Yo, he going he going to try though. Come on. Come on, Leo. What you want to What you want to talk about? You You said something about Zion. Go ahead, man. Y’all was talking about his uh his deficiencies and [ __ ] and uh what’s up, Miss Clearance and Egg Dog. He got delivered eggnog on the [ __ ] shell. Like he got to go and got some egg dog immediately, bro. And he just like Yeah. Like it just like kept moving like just No. No. Chris, I don’t hear [ __ ] Go ahead. Listen, man. You was asking about you you asked Chris about the the the spacing on the floor for Zion or the correct way to use and it’s like I don’t I I What is the correct way to use him? What is the cor what is the correct way? He his game is his game is like his game is is very limited. It doesn’t have a lot of creativity. So I can’t put him in certain situations that I will put my superstar in because he can’t create a shot for himself. He can’t go. He’s not going to go right or if he do does go right, he’s spinning back left. He not gonna shoot it with his right hand. It’s like it kind of limits you as a as a coach. And then I don’t know what his schedule is. When he go play like I really I really don’t ask Leo asked Chris’s question. What is Zion name one thing Zion has developed from year one to year seven? And Jarvis Williams. Yes. You just absolutely got blocked. Can’t you can’t troll the chat. Only we can control the chat. Go ahead. Uh, nothing. Come on, y’all. What? What are you good at? You think? No, for real though. Like, like in all in all honesty, like trun y’all think y’all think he has not improved a single element of his game in seven years. Okay, let’s go down the checklist. Can he shoot better? No. No. Can he dribble better? No. A little bit, but okay. Go ahead. Just a little bit. Can he rebound better? No. I think he’s a better rebounder. Christ. Okay, so one thing. Can he Can he pass out of a double team yet? No. I got to watch. I I Okay. He’s also averaging a career low five and a half rebounds for 2025 2027. Is he playing? It’s like 10 games. Go ahead. I’m not y’all y’all turning me into a into a No, you’re being questioning questions. I’m being racist. He’s being my wife. We just asking you questions. No, no, no. Y’all y’all are telling me y Well, cuz I don’t have no egg. No. You scaring us. Y Y’all pimping the [ __ ] out of this egg mouth. Every time I look, he’s just y’all are telling me you angry black man before Thanksgiving. You scaring us. Rel, Justin up here looking all [ __ ] frag. You scaring us. You You in the You in the You in the dining room now. You dude. I kind of want something back now. Good catch there, Chris. Go ahead, Chris. I’m interested. Y’all turning me y’all turning me into a into a Zion um uh protective. I’m not Chris, I don’t think he’s just asking questions. He’s just question. No, no, I understand that. But but I don’t think I don’t think you guys if if you truthfully sit sit down and think about it, I don’t think it’s fair to say he’s improved at zero in seven years. I don’t think that you think Okay, I’m just asking you what though. Is he a better defender than he was at Duke? No, no, no. Since he entered the league. I ain’t I ain’t I ain’t talking about Duke. If I’m No, I’m saying if the first uh Thank you. The first the first the first the first idea of defense I had from him was him blocking DeAndre Hunter’s three-pointer at Duke. Do I think he got better from that standpoint? No. Flash forward to that close out against Naji Marshall against Flash forward to the [ __ ] close out the night in the corner left corner. Okay. So, so he same player. I think he’s worse. Oh, yeah. I think I think the same player. I think the activity got got worse. This going to be one of them situations. Then a month from now, we going we going to run this back when he going on one of them Zion runs. No, no, no, no, no, no. I’m off the narcotic. It’s not going to matter to me. I told you this. He g you think you think you think you think you think cuz you got a haircut and you drinking like egg. No, you could talk to me like this. Yeah. Like why you why you so calm? I I’m just saying like I we had these conversations. I’m not on the narcotic anymore. He’s going to go on the run. He’s just what I told you. He’s going to give you 20 incredible games where he going to look like he the best player in the NBA. I’m I’m I’m sick of losing, Chris. You know, you How do you think I feel? How How you think I feel? I don’t know. A lot of people are attacking me on Twitter. I’m like, it’s fine. Like, you can blame Blame me. Blame me. That’s fine. Y’all want to blame me? Fine. Okay. I [ __ ] told y’all Willie Green wasn’t listening to James Bgo offensively. Okay, it is clear as day. The offense is a hundred times better. The product is a hund times better. They’re still not winning games. He’s right. He’s right, Leo. Get a get a matcha in the morning, Leo. They’re still having one tomorrow. They’re still having crunch time issues. That’s that’s that’s what’s that’s what’s keeping me up. Are you Are you frustrated with the losses? Are you frustrated with the players? I don’t know. I’m frustrated with Zion. Can I say something? That’s what I’m frustrated with. If you frust, this is not a shot at you, Justin. [ __ ] you. If you have expectations, if you have high expectations for a three- win team, that’s a choice. Yeah, they won three [ __ ] games. What you expecting them to do? Do you if Let me ask this. Why are you so happy? I don’t know. So happy. No. If if Bereo if Bereo coaches team game one If got if shout eggnog if coach team gave one and had had an off season in a training camp, do you think they’d have more than three wins? They do. They will. Do I think it would be a good team though? Ask me that. Do you think it’d be a good team? No. What’s a good team? What’s a good team is a team that has reliable players. Well, 90 90% of that is been ready to get off the show about four for 45 minutes. You ready to get off the show? I got two hours of potting. I’m ready. I said, “Chris, Chris, let me baby me and you hop off and let Lita run it for the next 45 prospect.” Yo, let let Nog man run it. Yo, Justin, I was telling I was I was sitting in the corner. I was telling my wife before you joined the show, I said, “Chris is running the show byself. He’s a [ __ ] sicko. Something’s wrong with him.” I’m [ __ ] sick in the head, dude. I lost twice tonight. I got my ass kicked twice tonight. Y’all lost? Yeah, it was bad. Yeah, Chess is a good team, man. We’re just not ready yet. That’ll be fine. I mean, man, sometimes you’re the bagel, sometimes you the croissant, man. You just got to deal with it. What’s wrong with the croissant? Oh, what? What? What does that mean? What the [ __ ] did you just say? Sometimes you bagel, sometimes you Sometimes you the croissant. Yeah. I’m What does that What does that mean? I like both. You ever had a bagel from Laoner? It’s fantastic. Little salmon. Yeah. Just that’s you just Yeah. But then you had to croissants. You have the toasted croissants like if you had to choose between if you if you had to choose. Would you rather be a bagel? Would you rather be a croissant? I mean we have a chocolate croissant which I think it’s a game changer. So you would rather be a croissant? I don’t know. I also like the Are we Is it an every, you know, everything bagel? Are we going plain? You know, maybe. Look, bro. We talking top of the line bagel versus topof the line croissant. At their prime at their prime. Okay. I can add honey and like can I add a honey and butter? You can add whatever with what with with whatever you want. Would you rather be a bagel? A croissant. Or a croissant. Croissant. It’s a easy question. I think Yeah, I go croissant. Huh? There you go. There you go. What would you go, Chris? I’d rather go croissant. Bagel. Bagel. Bagel is just too plain, bro. It’s it’s it’s beige. It’s gray. What’s wrong with beige? There’s something. It’s old bread. I’m straight. Yeah. It’s just, you know, Yeah. Old bread. It’s old bread. Yeah. It’s just overrated. You got to do too much to it. Like, come on, dog. Oh. Oh, [ __ ] man. We got to win games, bro. Just a seen what? There’s a there’s a donut five minutes by the way. Oh, okay. Now you Yeah. This [ __ ] just barely he barely been here. Not what the been here for an hour. You the reason Leo showed up. Oh yeah. We I We saw you were solo. Okay. You ever seen You ever read Banded Brothers, right? Do we have Do we have eggnog? Can we make it from scratch? How long How long eggno take to make to be made? You know, my wife is just I don’t sleeping. Huh? What if What if somebody What if somebody had had eggnog and a fancy glass? What would you say about that person? What’ you say, Chris? I’m sorry. By the way, guys, if y’all are like, this is like this show’s off the rails and it is what it is. We’re potting for Thanksgiving. Happy the team. We’re 3:15. Prospects off for the 30th [ __ ] time. So, Prospect, you can go It’s your turn. Hey, I want to say before prospect, I do got to hop off. Love y’all. Happy Thanksgiving. Um, salute to y’all and I will see y’all Saturday. Saturday. Bye, guys. Later. All right. Hold up. Yo, what’s up, dog? Hold up. Justin bailed out on me. Yeah, bro. Yeah, bro. He said he had to go. Yeah, I gota I gotta go watch I gota go watch some film prospect. Love you though, bro. Man, you all, man. Look, man. He ain’t trying to hear all that. I feel I feel a trying to hear all that. Do it. Don’t worry, though. You got you got look look look we don’t need to do all that. I just want better n check this out. Check this out. Let me ask you a question. Leo, what’s up man? For this game this game here in particular, what will be your closing lineup? It’s crazy. Me and Chris Me and Chris are just texting about that and u we was just texting coach uh shout out to coach Mike. Damn Chris, what we said? I don’t know where my phone at. Uh, I think we said uh Oh, wait. Remind me who was on the floor. So, was it I really don’t wait. Let me say this, Chris. I don’t I don’t remember who was who was on the floor, but I remember who wasn’t. There you go. And that was that was Derek Queen. Queen wasn’t out there. So, so the lineup, bro. So, look, I’m g tell you this. Shout out to Chunk. I I didn’t see the whole game, but what I did see I saw that and I was ask I was texting Chris about the minutes for Queen. And then I I was asking Mike about why Queen wasn’t on the floor on the floor. He told me he said because the [ __ ] that they was doing to me, they was doing to Queen. They wasn’t respecting the shot. So, but my thing was I ain’t see them involve Edy in no action. Like he needed to be more involved. I kept running the [ __ ] I You got to come out here and slide your feet, bro. You got to come out here and slide your feet. I’m just You cannot allow Sun just stand in the corner cuz Mei just living. He camping in the paint. All right. Can I say a little something right quick? Talk to me. It’s the difference between Queen and Mei. M like like the difference is like like Mei he your fast break play in the park type of player like up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up temp tempmpo type of big but queen when it come to queen that’s he the set play figure it out when the game slow down like that that’s what I feel like haven’t been figured out yet like like when the game going up tempo you supposed to play me. But when it come down to the clutch and the game slow down and we got to figure this [ __ ] out that I feel like that’s when Queen need to be out though. I ain’t I ain’t mad at that. I I think I think you got to have a scoring threat on the floor. The only thing with that is I don’t want Derek Camden a corner either. So you go have to get him involved. He gonna have to initiate some kind of way. So, and that’s that’s what makes him important. That’s what make him important when the game slowed down because he’s the best slow player. Does that make sense? I feel like he he like he the best player when the game slowed down. Like like once they once they try to make it a muddy game, that’s a Derek Queen game. Yeah, I I’m I’m with you. I think man I think you it was a lot of basketball on the floor for they could have look I ain’t never advocate for Jordan Hawkins got to have a threat out there Michael Peavey somebody gota have a you got to have a threat out there I I just ain’t peeve not a threat he not at least at least offensive he he not a threat but he gonna cut you know what I’m saying he can make a timely three he he he he’s a I would say as compared to Mei who was on the floor. You know what I’m saying? Like I just I don’t know. I just I I also they had a lot of people missing, right? Jordan Pool was missing. Um Shane really not that many people was missing it, right? It was just Jordan Pool. Not. You’re right. You’re right. You You’re right about that. That’s a fact. Well, Carlo call I Yeah, I said that I said that to everybody else earlier. You probably wasn’t here. You probably didn’t get to hear me say it, but I felt like this was the perfect Carlo game. I did say that earlier. I’m not gonna cap. I felt like this was this was a game where Carlo could have shined. I I’ve been I’ve been saying for a couple games now, they’ve been missing Carlo. like you you need you need somebody like for instance him on Edy like obviously he can’t guard Edy but like he gonna get up and down the floor they gonna have to sub that I will say too when Zion had Triple J had four fouls I just wanted him to keep attacking Triple J and that’s why I feel like Paul would have made the difference like honestly because like Zion Zion by himself got got Jiren what three four fouls. Mhm. That just by itself. So Carlo could have got the rest and sometime you got to just think on the aspect like just get him out the game. Play the foul game. I’m with you. I I just man I don’t know. It was a It was a It was a tough loss, especially to lose like that. But like I was saying, it’s a 3-1 team. So, it’s like if you got not talking about you, but like if you got expectations, I don’t really I don’t think the team got a lot of talent like that. You know what I’m saying? Like it needs to be Look, I tweeted this earlier. I said I don’t know if Bergo the best option but as far as coaches who the Pelicans could hire Mike Malone not coming here bro Taylor Jenkins not coming here because they gonna want they gonna want coins and they gonna want a say so in the roster and I can’t see the Pelicans giving up that kind of but one they ain’t going to pay him and I can’t give them see him giving up that kind of power to have a say so you you see how a line ran But can I say this? Talk to me. Honestly, like I feel like Bingo is the best option. Because and and listen, the reason why I say that is because even though we lost tonight, right, it were interesting. It kept us like like, okay, we might lose the game, but [ __ ] Give us a reason to watch the [ __ ] I’m with you. Like like like don’t let us get burned. Like don’t blow us talk about 30. Don’t let us get like that’s the difference. Like I know I was a big Willie Green hater. But that’s why like when Willie was coaching the team, we getting blowed out by 30. At least when like when James coached the team, we ain’t getting blowned out by 30. The [ __ ] intercept, man. You can’t be bad and boring. You can’t be bad and boring. You know what I’m saying? And that’s that that’s what I said tonight. I was like, man, look, game was entertaining. That’s really all you could ask for. Like, I mean, obviously you want them to win, but it’s a three- win team, so you got expectations. I don’t really know what to tell you. But like Leo, real talk, the only thing that make mother like honestly I wouldn’t be mad if they lost if it wasn’t about the draft pick. Like like that’s the thing that make it so bad that they lost. Like if you put a protection if you put a protection on that trade when they traded for Derek to get the pick to get Derek Green. Let me let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Do you think that Derek Queen’s talent how you feel about Derek Queen? First off, I like him. I love him. I just feel like they don’t give him a chance to fail. Like, don’t get me wrong, like I feel like Jeremiah Fears, like I feel like him and Derek Queen is just as good as each other, but Fierce has had more opportunity to mess up than Derek Queen had. It’s like Derek Queen make one mistake, he going to the bench for like a quarter and a half. But fears get to play like three and a half quarters. Like what? No. All right. Now, let me ask you. Do you feel like do you feel like Derek Queen if you were to draft Derek Queen this year, let’s say he stayed in college, do you think he would have been a top three player in this draft? No. No. I know just for the simple fact players in this draft is more athletic and I feel like they kind of value the athleticism more than the skill. Thanks and that’s the only reason. But is he just as good as those players? I think so. All right. Well, with that being said, because I mean even this draft, right, like you had players more athletic than him. He got drafted up with 13, but his ability, his skill is the reason why he got drafted. He never gonna be athletic. But overall, like gamewise, like take the athleticism out of it. Gamewise, do you think that he would be a top five, top three player in this draft coming up? I give him I give him like top eight. Top eight. Yeah, I give him about between six and eight. Somewhere up in that range. The only rationale that I got. And it’s only it’s only because of his athleticism. That’s the only thing. It’s like if Derrick Queen was doing the same things that he do now, but he also jumped out the gym, it’ll be it’ll be a different game. See, but you can’t just to think with the type of player he is, how cerebral he is, like you could look at his let’s say the blueprint of his position, right? Sabonis, Yogic, Son, none of them dudes jump out the gym. They all got a similar type of build and play style. So, it’s I’m gonna say this. I’m not co-signing the the the the trading of the pick because I’m with you. You should you you absolutely have to put protections on it. Only thing I can say is they looked at it. They got their guy and they basically was just kind of like I think he might be a top three, top five pick next year and we just gonna roll with it. Now, however we feel about it, we feel about it. I was a huge Dary Queen fan. Again, didn’t like the protections not put being put on the pick. I just think that I’m with you. Especially with what’s at stake. Take the take the take the let them go, bro. Like, let them go. Let them make mistakes. Let them right, you know. Let them learn because the only the the thing with him and fear, the only way they gonna learn is try through fire. Got to go through the fire. And that’s the thing. You got to let them learn. You got to let them learn. But man, appreciate your prospect, man. Look, I’m about to get out of here myself, man. Y’all have a happy Thanksgiving, dog. You know you my dog. But man, y’all have a happy Thanksgiving. Shout out to Chris. Shout out to Justin. Shout out to LA to everybody. Shout out to y’all in the chat. We appreciate y’all pulling up every time. It’s still 184 people in here. Y’all sick. Each and every one of y’all. Y’all insane. I don’t know why y’all here, but we crazy Pes. They dry you to drink. But they play Friday. They play Friday, I think. N Saturday. Saturday. They play Saturday. Yeah. Yeah. Saturday. Golden State. Oh yeah. Jordan Pa will be back. JP gonna be back. But man, look. We gonna holl at y’all Saturday. I’ll see y’all Sunday. Y’all be cool. Prospect. Holl at me, dog. For sure. Got it.

LIVE AFTER THE GAME

18 comments
  1. Its too much complaining now. At least these mfs are playing basketball. The games are watchable now. They are starting to learn how to play together. Zion is learning how-to play in a real offense. Stop acting like Willie Green wasn't the fucking coach the past however many years. Give it some time

  2. 10 years from now if you look back at this roster, who will you say was the best player on the team? I really think that's going to be Derick Queen. It's not Zion and it's not Trey Murphy. Maybe because they're veterans they can be better right now, but Queen is the future. I want him on the floor in crunch time.

    And from a PR standpoint, in terms of how the rest of the league will view that Queen trade, I would want to try to get him as many triple doubles as possible and get him to be rookie of the year. Then at least that trade doesn't look so bad. Even if the Hawks end up with the top pick the narrative is still better if Queen is rookie of the year.

  3. I’m not mad at this game this was a great game the refs trash Edey camped in the paint no 3 sec calls on him when Zion had the ball wells played amazing and the game plan should have been let Vince Williams shoot not pass the ball around like that

  4. And we have trouble with big ass teams like the grizzlies with Karlo and looney healthy you could play 2 bigs but right now we can’t do that, but again when Zion gets the ball in iso situation it still needs to be actions off the ball that’s how you force Edey outta the paint make him go set off ball screen for Trey or bey for shots Trey only shot the ball like 9 times that’s not gon cut it trey and z needs to be taking at least 17-20 shots every game jose had more shot attempt again than everybody shot selections are bad from him and Hawkins straight up that lead to easy points for the grizzlies

  5. Brandon showing out for glo rilla we 3-16
    But atleast trey is shining now that Willie and Brandon can’t hold him back
    And skinny Zion still won’t shoot 3s lol

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