If this doc was supposed to show the “real world of hockey you normally don’t get to see!” I feel like they should have left it in. There was some rough scenes we saw behind the scenes in the Oilers locker room too.
I’m pretty sure this isn’t new news, we’ve known this pretty much since that series was released

Noooooooooooo Nylander arguing ?? Doesn’t seem like him at all.
I mean, when CJ was on the Leafs Report he said “one of Willys former coaches told me “he cares about what he cares about, right”” and I literally heard it in Keefes voice, thats exactly how he talks.
That series sucked
It’s not what you think.
While yelling Willy’s hair got all messed up. He won the argument, and there was good reason for him to be angry, too, but unfortunately when he got worked up he momentarily slipped from a perfect 10 to just 9.5 and we couldn’t have that out there making the rounds.
William Nylander is one of the best players to ever wear a Leaf Jersey. Dude could be making huge $$ elsewhere but took a nice discount to stay here. He loves the city and is a local Torontonian. Any smack talk or drama stuff about him should be put to bed immediately unless it’s truly warranted. This is the stuff that makes it intolerable to play here. Don’t give this shit any oxygen.
Sheldon Keefe comes from the David Frost school of hockey so I will instinctively side against him on anything.
I thought this was very old news ??
This paragraph was written, and posted here, over 4 years ago. So it’s not a surprise
>The agent, Lewis Gross, would not discuss it, but William Nylander’s representatives were unhappy with how he was portrayed at certain points and fought to have those removed.
Isn’t that old news? I thought that was confirmed right after it came out.
Agent: WE OBJECT!
NHL: On what grounds?
Agent: On the grounds that this real life footage makes my client look bad.
Meh. NHL and Amazon cut out a shit ton of the Rantanen situation in his Faceoff episode too.
They also didn’t show players throwing slurs around and doing coke lmao. This is such a random story to randomly bring up
Who gives a fuck?
I don’t feed into unsubstantiated rumours about our best player, best personality and a great teammate. As if we haven’t had it horrible so far as fans this year. Let’s not do this ok.
One of the most genuinely CLUTCH players the leafs have ever had
Dont care, Nylander is one of the best goal scorers in the league and thats all he needs to do. He is not a 2 way forward and will not play defense, stop trying to force these dumb systems and just let him do his thing
My thoughts are:
It’s funny how much this player, one of the only few who actively contributes goals and produces in the postseason, is the first person certain people will identify as what’s primarily wrong with the team.
EDIT: that production was from 2021. Why tf is this news in 2025-26?!?
My thoughts are this was years ago so who cares.
A player and coach get into an argument. Shocker. Anyone who’s ever played anything knows that u don’t always see eye to eye with coaches. I’m sure if Willy was in a different market it probably would’ve made the cut.
This sub is getting so toxic lately, I might have to check out soon
I feel like it couldn’t have been that bad if he was in the next season?
I’m disappointed that Elliot Friedman would dig this up again. This was a rumour when the Amazon series was released.
My thoughts on this are basically, ok so the Amazon show isn’t really a documentary per se. It’s more like a series of very long commercials for the NHL. That gives me what I need to know with respects to if I watch or not.
Otherwise who cares? Pick any job, any career, and you’ll find employees arguing with their supervisors, managers, etc. What matters is happens next. How do you move forward to reach a common goal.
Seems like a distraction.
Willy’s the only player that could take this kind of heat and not be affected
With people foaming at the mouth to get rid of Berube and Matthews, something’s got to take the spotlight.
The leafs have always been a drama machine, with no tangible results. It’s a culture problem.
Let Nylander focus mostly on offense, wish the captain was more offensive hungry as well. They get paid to score points. Still gotta put some effort in defensively but they don’t make top money to be the best two way players imo
Friedman is a hack
Why is the media so weirdly obsessed with tearing down Nylander this season?
Is he the perfect player? No. Does he consistently play defense? No. But he is one of the only things keeping this team somewhat a float this year and is a game breaker.
The media really needs to get a damn life.
I don’t doubt it since it’s been mentioned already, plus Keefe was made to walk back what I thought were valid criticisms of our stars. It’s what NHL players do. But at the same time, if Willy and his team were actually compromising the integrity of the Amazon documentary, why would they feature him in a bigger role in another one they produced? This reeks of making mountains out of mole hills.
Nylander is fiery at times but he seems to have the respect of Berube, which means quite a lot to me.
until this guy hates playing here and starts playing like it, i will not entertain slander
We know what Willy is, stop trying to pretend every hockey player plays defence
Let’s just say for arguments sake that Friedman is correct and the argument makes Willy look bad and he’s completely in the wrong.
Has anyone here ever had a disagreement with their boss where they look back and realize that they were in the wrong? I know I have. The big difference is there wasn’t a camera crew in my face and media reporting about it years later.
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Don’t care.
If this doc was supposed to show the “real world of hockey you normally don’t get to see!” I feel like they should have left it in. There was some rough scenes we saw behind the scenes in the Oilers locker room too.
I’m pretty sure this isn’t new news, we’ve known this pretty much since that series was released

Noooooooooooo Nylander arguing ?? Doesn’t seem like him at all.
I mean, when CJ was on the Leafs Report he said “one of Willys former coaches told me “he cares about what he cares about, right”” and I literally heard it in Keefes voice, thats exactly how he talks.
That series sucked
It’s not what you think.
While yelling Willy’s hair got all messed up. He won the argument, and there was good reason for him to be angry, too, but unfortunately when he got worked up he momentarily slipped from a perfect 10 to just 9.5 and we couldn’t have that out there making the rounds.
William Nylander is one of the best players to ever wear a Leaf Jersey. Dude could be making huge $$ elsewhere but took a nice discount to stay here. He loves the city and is a local Torontonian. Any smack talk or drama stuff about him should be put to bed immediately unless it’s truly warranted. This is the stuff that makes it intolerable to play here. Don’t give this shit any oxygen.
Sheldon Keefe comes from the David Frost school of hockey so I will instinctively side against him on anything.
I thought this was very old news ??
This paragraph was written, and posted here, over 4 years ago. So it’s not a surprise
>The agent, Lewis Gross, would not discuss it, but William Nylander’s representatives were unhappy with how he was portrayed at certain points and fought to have those removed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/pszu8e/32_thoughts_12there_were_also_some_battles_on/
Isn’t that old news? I thought that was confirmed right after it came out.
Agent: WE OBJECT!
NHL: On what grounds?
Agent: On the grounds that this real life footage makes my client look bad.
Meh. NHL and Amazon cut out a shit ton of the Rantanen situation in his Faceoff episode too.
They also didn’t show players throwing slurs around and doing coke lmao. This is such a random story to randomly bring up
Who gives a fuck?
I don’t feed into unsubstantiated rumours about our best player, best personality and a great teammate. As if we haven’t had it horrible so far as fans this year. Let’s not do this ok.
One of the most genuinely CLUTCH players the leafs have ever had
Dont care, Nylander is one of the best goal scorers in the league and thats all he needs to do. He is not a 2 way forward and will not play defense, stop trying to force these dumb systems and just let him do his thing
My thoughts are:
It’s funny how much this player, one of the only few who actively contributes goals and produces in the postseason, is the first person certain people will identify as what’s primarily wrong with the team.
EDIT: that production was from 2021. Why tf is this news in 2025-26?!?
My thoughts are this was years ago so who cares.
A player and coach get into an argument. Shocker. Anyone who’s ever played anything knows that u don’t always see eye to eye with coaches. I’m sure if Willy was in a different market it probably would’ve made the cut.
This sub is getting so toxic lately, I might have to check out soon
I feel like it couldn’t have been that bad if he was in the next season?
I’m disappointed that Elliot Friedman would dig this up again. This was a rumour when the Amazon series was released.
My thoughts on this are basically, ok so the Amazon show isn’t really a documentary per se. It’s more like a series of very long commercials for the NHL. That gives me what I need to know with respects to if I watch or not.
Otherwise who cares? Pick any job, any career, and you’ll find employees arguing with their supervisors, managers, etc. What matters is happens next. How do you move forward to reach a common goal.
Seems like a distraction.
Willy’s the only player that could take this kind of heat and not be affected
With people foaming at the mouth to get rid of Berube and Matthews, something’s got to take the spotlight.
The leafs have always been a drama machine, with no tangible results. It’s a culture problem.
Let Nylander focus mostly on offense, wish the captain was more offensive hungry as well. They get paid to score points. Still gotta put some effort in defensively but they don’t make top money to be the best two way players imo
Friedman is a hack
Why is the media so weirdly obsessed with tearing down Nylander this season?
Is he the perfect player? No. Does he consistently play defense? No. But he is one of the only things keeping this team somewhat a float this year and is a game breaker.
The media really needs to get a damn life.
I don’t doubt it since it’s been mentioned already, plus Keefe was made to walk back what I thought were valid criticisms of our stars. It’s what NHL players do. But at the same time, if Willy and his team were actually compromising the integrity of the Amazon documentary, why would they feature him in a bigger role in another one they produced? This reeks of making mountains out of mole hills.
Nylander is fiery at times but he seems to have the respect of Berube, which means quite a lot to me.
until this guy hates playing here and starts playing like it, i will not entertain slander
We know what Willy is, stop trying to pretend every hockey player plays defence
Let’s just say for arguments sake that Friedman is correct and the argument makes Willy look bad and he’s completely in the wrong.
Has anyone here ever had a disagreement with their boss where they look back and realize that they were in the wrong? I know I have. The big difference is there wasn’t a camera crew in my face and media reporting about it years later.
Shit happens, move on.
Why is this coming up 3 years later?