Why Minnesota Vikings will move off J.J. McCarthy | Colin Cowherd NFL
Welcome to the official YouTube channel for the Colin Coward podcast. Go on, hit that subscribe button if you’re new so you don’t miss any of our great football content this season. All right, Green Bay 23, Minnesota 6. Um, it’s official. Um, JJ McCarthy does not work in this league. So, Minnesota had four yards and three turnovers in the second half. Four yards and three turnovers. JJ McCarthy sacked five times, no confidence, two picks. The Vikings had 145 total yards. This is with an elite offensive coach, Justin Jefferson, above average O line. I mean, I I watched today. Green Bay coached this game. This is what the film told you. Emanuel Wilson. I I lost track after about 27 carries, 26 carries. Green Bay told you because Jordan Love had a bruised left shoulder. So, they were going to protect him. They told you in this game as they settled for field goals. You wouldn’t do that if you played if you’re playing Detroit or you’re playing Caleb Williams. You wouldn’t do that. Or Sam Darnold in the NFC. They were telling you, “We’re dominating time of possession. We don’t think JJ McCarthy can get into the end zone with our defense. We don’t think he can get in there.” My takeaway in this whole game was they were protecting Jordan Love. his left just non-throwing shoulder. Um, but their commitment to the run game I think was also a nod because they’re not a great running team although they had over 100 yards today as they committed to it. But I their game plan told me a Jordan Love, we don’t want him throwing 40 times. B, we can win this game on field goals because it was beyond conservative by Green Bay. I I thought my favorite game on the board coming into this weekend, I I don’t even know what that number would have had to be for me to take the Vikings against the Packers on the road with what we had seen out of JJ McCarthy. Uh I you know a lot of talk about JJ McCarthy changing his mechanics and then working through it. That is impossible when you are actually playing in games, right? when they if you go back to Aaron Rodgers when they drafted him from Jeff Tedford and he used to hold the ball up high. They spent years changing his mechanics in practice and wiring that muscle memory. They’re trying to do this on the fly with a team full of veterans. It’s an epic disaster because this guy’s getting worse by the game. I mean, he looked by the game. It it was pretty embarrassing today. And if you’re I always defend like there there’s a big difference of acting like you know Terrell Owens or Antonio Browns being a full mal content and just being a wide receiver who’s kind of angry like AJ Browns some of his uh arguments have had some validity behind him. You know I I don’t think he’s always wrong. Now we can argue how he’s handling it but what he’s saying is not incorrect. So when I see Justin Jefferson sometimes get a little pouty like kind of understandable. He’s the best player at his position in the sport and he’s playing with a quarterback who probably wouldn’t be a backup on a lot of teams. Colin I mean I’m watching the NFL this year because so many I mean everyone is but well the amount of backups that play that are just from M. Jones to Jacobe Brassette he he would be one of the worst backup even Mason Rudolph today like JJ McCarthy can’t function Colin they can’t function. Davis Mills beat Josh Allen, Davis Mills, M. Jones. These guys are more Shadur Sanders today. They’re functional. They can move the ball down the field. So I listen, this thing is it feels over before it even started because you’re like, well, we got to have patience. It’s like, well, this team’s not going to have patience because this off seasonason they’re going to have to be aggressive to find some sort of veteran. And how is JJ McCarthy beating that guy out? We’ve seen this time and time again. They will bring in whoever and they’ll claim it’s a competition and and that guy will be the starter week one. You can see this coming from a mile away. They made a bold move and it didn’t work. I mean, it just simply didn’t work. It backfired in their face and Sam Darnold, every time I look up, there was another bomb to Jackson Smith. It’s like there’s just no way if you’re Justin Jefferson when you get home, you put your feet up after the game and you turn on some highlights and you see that you’re not really disappointed because listen, you try to be a team guy, you try to be a company guy, but when you screw up the quarterback position for an unknown, I mean, just because you drafted them high, we’ve seen a lot of guy I mean, we we know for a fact that half the guys that are drafted fail, right? Yeah. So I I I just think that JJ McCarthy today that was the score doesn’t even reflect what we witnessed. I mean half of that is just like you said the Packers are conservative slash they’re not that explosive an offense. They they weren’t even trying. They were like we’re not even going to put anyone in position. He it felt like half the balls could have been intercepted. Yeah. I mean Jeff Hafley the Boston College coach who took the DC job. It’s a very solid game plan. They don’t allow anything over the top. So they didn’t give they didn’t give they were going to force JJ McCarthy to throw the ball somewhere between eight yards and 18 and he can’t. He it’s it’s you know he actually moves pretty well. Like I thought Stfansky did a good job to really utilize Shadur’s mobility and and I think JJ McCarthy is has better mobility but I there’s just there’s nothing about JJ nothing works. I I I think with a lot of guys like in baseball if you need to work through things, you go to the minor leagues and they work on mechanics. It happens with pitchers all the time, right? They work their way through the mech minor leagues working on mechanics and getting something right. So when they get to the big leagues, they can just play. You see it in football the time, guys practice squads. That’s how they develop just in practice. So we can change something that we didn’t like from college. They didn’t get a chance to do this last year because he was hurt. he couldn’t practice and then this year he just becomes the starter. It’s hard to develop a guy when he’s starting when your expectation is to win immediately and it is just backfiring in their face. I mean you see it on Kevin Oonnell’s face. I mean he knows because of injuries that you know Carson Wentz is, you know, his whole body fell apart. They have no one to go to. So it’s any other player in his situation that was a second, you know, a secondyear player that was just drafted would be benched, right? But they’re kind of screwed that he’s going to continue to start. And I I do think it’s in one of those spots where it could get worse. Like this thing could keep unraveling, you know, because you are playing, you know, as Caleb’s kind of getting better. Obviously, the Packers defense is awesome. How are you going to get into a scoring contest with the Lions? So, it’s just it’s a tough spot. I I don’t This year, they’re just it is what it is. You’re just stuck with them and you just got to ride it out and you’re going to take a lot of heat because it’s going to it’s going to get uglier. Colin, it it just is. Football season’s here and if you want to go to an NFL or college football game, Game Time is the place for you. The Game Time app just gives you the advantage back to you, the fans. It’s a hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in a few taps. I love it. Easy to use. The Game Time Guarantee means you can trust you’ll get a 100% authentic tickets on time and at the best price. 100%. 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Seattle knew in the off season that JSN was a more complete wide receiver than Metaf. Less moody, more productive, better route tree. Um maybe not the home run potential, although it looks like he has it. I love JSN. He’s another one of these Ohio State receivers. They’ve got I mean two more coming out. Carnell Tate’s coming out this year. He’s unbelievable. Uh then a year after that it’s Jeremiah Smith. Um Seattle clearly off that wild Rams loss. The defense just didn’t I thought Cam Ward and they they dominated time of possession. Uh but my take on JSN and Darnold is the thing I’ll give Sam Darnold credit for is I went and looked up his passer rating today. His passer rating is still top six in the league. Like the the reality with Sam Darnold is he has these Andrew Luck stink bombs. But when I watch today, he really is hard to defend cuz cuz Sam is one of those guys where he runs looking to throw. Mahomes does this. Some guys run to run. Justin Fields, he’s running to run. Sam’s running to throw. And I don’t think he used to do that years ago, but Sam Darnold today is running to throw. His eyes are downfield. He did it a couple times today against the Titans. He’d run, he’d pull back, he’d throw it. Seattle’s a handful. Um, are you shocked that JSN is this dominant? Yeah. I mean, I I I couldn’t have imagined that he’d have a 2,000 yard season. I mean, every time you look up, he looks like a mixture of Jerry Rice meets Randy Moss because you think this guy was more of a slot receiver. I think that was the knock why he didn’t go that high. typically guys that are more outside. Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson went in the 20s, but like that’s AJ B or uh AJ Green, Julio Jones, like your blue chip outside guy can go in the top five. This guy looks like how did this guy fall so far in the draft? No one knew he was this good. I mean, but John Schneider did. And I I think he gets credit, as he should, for some all-time great moves this off seasonason. punting on Gino Smith to acquire Sam Darnold and punting on DK Medaf to just kind of feature this guy. I mean, it was a double whammy. The the money that he saved. I mean, Gino costs more than Sam Darnold and DK Metaf the Steelers, which honestly to me it made no sense. Like, hey guys, you’re not a wide receiver away, let alone a guy, this is his third contract, right? This is not Jamar Chase or Jefferson or CD Lamb, one of these guys, 25 26 going into their second contract. You’re trading this guy. I mean, most players is going to have four contracts. Like, it’s pretty risky for you guys to make this move with a second round pick where you can just find guys like Luther Burton, George Pickkins, and that’s the other thing. They get rid of George Pickkins. Every time I look at the Cowboys, George Pickins making plays. So, you look at the Steelers, some terrible personnel moves. And you look at John Schneider, you know, it goes back to hiring Mike McDonald, which it’s not the sexiest thing to hire defensive coaches anymore. Everyone wants the Kevin Oonnell’s, the Shawn McVace, and rightfully so, but he hired looks like the right guy, and then he made incredible personnel moves this off season. And I anytime you go on the road against a terrible team, it didn’t really shock me that it was 3-3 kind of lifeless environment. It’s just it’s a tough spot for any good team once you get November, December, and you’re playing a two- three- win team. Like I I give you a little grace if you’re down seven nothing after the first quarter. But then they flipped that switch and the team speed it was like this thing’s over. Once they scored 13 unanswered, you’re like this is the Titans are really bad. Like that’s that’s one of those jobs that I don’t know if I would leave if I was a coordinator. You know, it’s pretty risky. It’s that’s a place where I know you get more money to be a head coach, but feels like where you get your career kind of goes to get derailed. [Music]
Colin Cowherd is joined by ‘3 & Out’ host John Middlekauff to react to Week 12 in the NFL. They discuss J.J. McCarthy looking terrible again, and debate whether the Minnesota Vikings will move off their QB after the season. Plus, Sam Darnold and the Seattle Seahawks get the win over the Tennessee Titans, so they break down whether Seattle is back on track.
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JJ might not be good enough, but if they move off of him after four starts, EVERYONE (Kwesi first and foremost) needs to be fired for trading up to 10 to get him.
You lost me at "Above Average O-Line." You can't be taken seriously after that statement.
I rarely agree with Collin but I agree with him here
As a diehard Vikings fan I pray that we move on from McCarthy
When Colin "the Packers whiffed on Jordan Love " Cowturd dumps on a young QB its a guarantee that given a better environment that QB will eventually be a genuine starter. Cheers from Baker Mayfield, Jordan Love Sam Darnold, Dan Jones, Mac Jones …..
Was anyone really expecting McCarthy to come in as a rookie and be Fran Tarkenton? He wasn't used much as a passer in college, and spent his NFL rookie season on IR. He needs to be on a team where he can learn as a backup for a few years, not be forced into the spotlight on a veteran team that was a contender last year.
McCarthy is being thrown to the Monday morning QB haters. Watch the film on his drop back passes. He's performing well, and rarely not. More emphasis should be on his Rookie year, and stats based on pass snaps in that time period. It's mostly good defenses (pressure and coverage), or you can say bad O line at times. I would say O line can be better at pass protection, McCarthy can make an occasional better read. This early hatred reminds me of Brett Favre. Some bad decisions, but how many of them he completed – OMG!! Give me a bourbon and a tight window pull it our of your ass throw highlight reel on Favre – I'm stunned to watch. Russell Wilson as well. Talk about pull it out of your ass lucky horseshoe. Give McCarthy one more year to compete, then it's a really big deal to move him. Not now.
The thing about Darnold is, he’s a trunky coastal kid. You can’t teach that
And people wonder why so many of us call collusion with Shedeur, McCarthy goes what top 15 and he barely threw or flashed on film.
Meanwhile, Shedeur breaks records, has all the intangibles, clutch, tough as nails, made miraculous plays yet he drops to the 5th.
Yea shedeur has flaws but as we can see after 1 week, he can improve and show.
Yea I’ll take the kid I gotta mold a little bit with the ceiling of a superstar for 1000 Alex.
Um, no. Jaxon Smith- Njigba is the best player at his position this year. It's not even that close. Nice try though.
"utilize Shedeur's mobility"?? Which mobility, Colin?? So after one start vs the "undefeatable" Raiders Shedeur is a double threat QB now? He extending plays like Mahomes or Lamar does?
If he works hard enough, spends an off season working on his game instead of rehabbing–he can be back. JJ is not.a starting QB yet, he's a project. The next team will love him
Sean Payton told Vikings they were trying to get MCCarthy, because they wanted Bo Knix. LOL
CLASSIC!
Astonishing to watch the same guys who threw Sam Darnold under the bus now die on their own sword over JJ McCarthy 😮
Not at all surprised, been calling this for years…..
Please stop with the George Pickens. Yes we know he’s very good he just simply could NOT be on the Steelers huge locker room problems there were numerous veterans that TOLD management get this guy out of here or it was going to come to fist fights. Not to mention he would have held out for a contract he was never going to get from Steelers. So yes sad situation but it HAD to happen
Vikings would at least be serviceable with shedeur sanders , lmao and if it was shedeur the heat would be a lot higher let's be real
You broadcasters/Podcasters are unreal!
Franchises fail QB’s not the other way around.
Sam was awful until he wasn’t.
Jones was awful until he wasn’t.
Every rookie QB looks awful!
This is solely on the head coach!
He isn’t protecting or creating situations to give JJ time to develop.
Who put that C on JJ’s jersey?
The head coach!
Ridiculous that the head coach isn’t getting more heat for this debacle!
As a Michigan fan who's obviously seen a ton of JJ games, he was a round 4 pick at best to a team with an established starter he could develop behind.
Hhhhhhoooooottttttt ttttttaaaaakkkkkeeee.
This is why NFL teams can’t develop QBs—teams start QBs too early then dump them too quick.
White QBs always get kicked out of the league immediately. The media definitely has a double standard.
These two "geniuses" who gave up on Darnold and Jones early in their careers, are now saying the same thing after six games, with a new QB. New year, same bad take. But hey, give JJ a year or two and he plays well, they will act like this never happened. It is easy to spread a negative opinion and get likes. Much harder to give analysis and preach patience.
1. He can't stay healthy
2. He can't get the team on the same page
3. His QB rating is in the dumpster and the dumpster burst into flames
4. He stands in the pocket like a confused brick
McCarthy was great in college..Cheat to win Michigan a big reason why
JJ is distracted by his dad. He wants him to stay away from his fiancé.
They won't move on from JJ because the Vikings organization is well known for making stupid choices
Alot of Wolverine fans said JJ wasnt going to make it in the NFL i guess they were right
trying to follow Middlekauf, don't really know which team he was talking about at the end! 😄
He's the worst QB in the NFL
I don't know why they handed him the keys to the franchise when he hadn't proven himself to be starting QB material.
I laugh at all the Vikings fans here in MN when they said JJ was the future. Sam was, and you let him walk. I hope Sam signs with the Steelers, my favorite team with my favorite QB would be a dream come true
If I’m the Vikings I’m calling the Niners about Mac Jones he would fit that system so well
Somebody better come jump on that cowboy train before it’s too late …
Dnt let them in the playoffs
Whoever let Sam walk out the door, is probably not sleeping well these days. The Vikings are learning what "all in" means.
John Middlekauf doesn't know s#!+. Minnesota just beat the Lions. What a Jackass. Yeah JJ's a bust but this guy is a just big mouthed know it all.
4:34 over the last 50 years 80% of first round qbs are a bust….. EIGHTY PERCENT
They can't move off of him after giving away Sam.
Next stop for Flacco looks like Minnesota
And a few months ago you were telling us how JJ and the cowboys were saddled with a lousy coach and were going to be terrible.
JJ McCarthy = Josh Rosen
But you want us to believe Shedeur Sanders is a 5th round ..Shedeur was better than him his junior year and JJ was a top ten pick. 😂😂 😂😂😂
As a Vikings fan, I found myself rooting for GB to dominate this game just to prove that McCarthy needs to be benched for good. When PA and Pete Bursage (I think that’s how you spell Pete’s last name) are dumbfounded by the game and sit in silence for a while, finally having nothing to say but, “Something needs to change. This isn’t working.” you know that JJ is done. The defense was ok. Special teams sucked besides the punting and kicking aspects…JJ had good protection and open receivers but sat too long in the pocket, resulting in sacks and turnovers. He’s the problem. I wasn’t even mad after the game, just plain disappointed.
Vikings are gunna go after Russ. Im calling it here!