Reviewing Potential QB Options for the Jets w/@JetsCentral

Reviewing Potential QB Options for the Jets w/@JetsCentral

J. [Music] Heat. Good job today, man. One at a time and we’ll get the job done. Y’all know what to say. On three. One, two, three. and the home of the Jets. What’s going on everybody? Happy Tuesday evening. I have been looking forward to this show for a week, one full week, because we’re going to do the most the the favorite topic for Jet fans, quarterbacks, because we always need one. And it’s November. That’s what we always talk about, November is quarterbacks, because we never have one. But before we get started, Ian, happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. Happy Thanksgiving to everybody watching the show and listening on the podcast networks. Definitely appreciate it. Be very thankful for what we have. Football is like an is just an escape, man. It’s, you know, but now it’s like the holiday season. Just enjoy that time with family. Yeah, man. You know, speak speaking of football on the holidays, it just feels insane with the amount of actual NFL games that are just like sprayed all across the schedule. You know, of course, you have the what is it? The three Thanksgiving games. You have the one game on Black Friday. You also have NFL on Christmas now. And then that’s not just one game. That’s multiple games. And I think we’re probably going to be getting to the point in the season where they just start throwing games on Saturday, too. So, I mean, it’s just going to be like NFL. You throw on top of it Thursday night football, Monday Night Football. Like, feels like it’s almost every day of the week. Yeah, it is. So, the Jets lost a game to the Ravens. Not going to really dive too much into that because we the Jets are what they are now. They’re a team that’s rebuilding. They’re a losing team. You know, 10th consecutive year of losing losing seasons, 15 years, no playoffs. We know all the stats. I generally don’t care about those anymore. Now, it’s about finding answers. We know Justin Fields isn’t the answer. Tyrod Taylor played okay, like, okay, it wasn’t great, wasn’t terrible. Okay, you’re you’re maybe opening up your offense a little bit. The first question I have for you is there a world if Tyrod plays out the season, stays healthy first, which is important. Is there a world where he could actually earn the Bridge quarterback spot for the Jets? You know, I think so. And and I know that’s that might not be what everybody wants to hear, but I think a couple things have to happen. Uh number one, the Jets like what they see in this six game stretch, right? Not only do the coaches like it and the front office likes it, but the players are also bought in. Like if we, you know, I’m not talking Mike White level where they’re rocking t-shirts of the guy or anything, but if they like you can talk to the leaders of the team. You know, you can see if the young guys, the rookies, the secondyear players are kind of gravitating towards Taylor or is it just all right, get all right, we’ve had enough, let’s move on. So, I think that’s the first thing. Number two, you know, he’s going to be cheap, so that’s a big big positive. But number three, so you know, contract talks and negotiations, you know, it feels kind of pointless to dive into those regardless the Jets can afford it. Like no matter what, the Jets can can bring him back. Uh but number three, and most importantly, you know, what is the projected plan in the offseason? I think that plan becomes a lot more clearer once we figure out where we’re going to be drafting in the first round. If we’re at two or three, that’s going to be a lot different than seven or eight. Um, you know, it’s there’s a lot of bad teams in football, man. The Raiders have two wins. The Browns have what, three wins now. Um, the Giants, two wins. Titans, one win. Saints, two wins or three wins? I think two. It’s not just, hey, lose out and we get the number one overall pick and everything’s great. No, there are a bunch of teams that are losing a b. What’s going to happen with Washington, dude? Washington, I think, only has three wins. So, I don’t personally think that the Jets are going to be going 0 and6 over this next six game stretch. So, I I truly don’t think we’re going to land the number one overall pick. Uh I could be wrong, but um regardless, once we have that draft position figured out and then Muji starts making calls once the uh season ends, you know, hey, what veteran could potentially be on the move? Trade talks and whatnot. Jaylen, I mean, we’ll go Yeah, I’m sure. No, you you’re you’re we’re going to go through a lot of quarterbacks tonight, but the I guess the question has, you know, can Tyrod find a way to make the team next year? I think he can if he can stay healthy. Like you said, he’s what he’s going to be he’s 36 years old. He’ll come cheap, high character guy. You know, the thing is it’s injuries. He’s always hurt. So, it’s like the first question I have for you is what would be the criteria for a quarterback next year? Because next year to me is not a a wash year where you’re like, you know what, this year was a complete year like, you know what, nobody cares. we lost, you know, win two games, win five games, nobody cares. Next year’s not that case. Next year, I think as a fan base, we expect a much more competitive team, right? That’s fair. Not saying you got to go win 11 games, but you’ve got to be in that five, six, seven game, a lot more competitive, a lot more well coached, scoring more points, looking lot you just more competent. What What’s the criteria for a quarterback next year? Like what do you like, you could say, oh, get a draft pick, okay, but what’s the criteria for the the veteran? When you say criteria, what exactly are you mean? Like characteristics, projections, age, age, contract, what does he bring to the table? Because you could just say, “Okay, give me like I have a whole list for you, dude.” You say, “I want Jimmy G.” Well, why? Like tell me like what do you as a fan base? What are we looking for out of our veteran quarterback next year? Like what’s the criteria for him assuming that you’re going to have a young young quarterback to pair with him? You know, I hate to give this non-answer here, but I do think it’s the truth. Depending on that draft position, if we land at two, if we land at 3,2 or one, I think the Jets are going to be drafting a quarterback. No doubt about it. With with that top three pick, right? And I think once, you know, if we h we if we’re in that that lane, that realm, boom, it’s Mendoza. Take your pick on whoever else. Um, and the reason why I say three or two is because you you’re definitely in shooting range of trading up. Um, if you’re in that realm, it’s going to be rookie quarterback and then veteran bridge who can hopefully play 10 games or eight games or something. But veteran bridge that is competent or veteran bridges take like to me like for example like Jameus Winston to me is under contract with the Giants so he’s not going to happen. But to me it’s like all right he can let at least let you be competitive and possibly win games. you’re going to get a high-flying offense. You’re gonna bring a lot to the table as you bring in say a Mincchu, not really like that anymore. Or guys that are kind of past their prime like all right like what’s that bridge guy? Because to me it’s like I’m not going to settle for I don’t want bottom of the barrel guy. I still want a guy that’s gonna be very competitive that meant like the thing is if you start say you have you could say you didn’t just say Kyler Murray for example if you want to say him but like the thing is I want a guy that can actually compete that doesn’t play so poorly after three games aka Russell Wilson this year where it’s like you know what we got to play Mendoza our quarterback blows. No, you want a guy that can play a good enough level to win games and say you know what week 12 week 13 now we can hand it off and now you can play. Like is that kind of what you’re thinking too? I don’t I want a competition. I want a guy that’s going to be legit like is a competent NFL quarterback. So, the answer is yes for me. But if we finish at eight or seven or six, I’m not really looking to package a ton of pick three first rounders plus more to go up to two or one to try to land a rookie quarterback. Me neither. At that point, I might start looking at veteran options that can bridge us not just eight games, but to next season with the potential of being the long-term answer, right? Have the next Baker or the next golf. And that’s and that’s kind of where I’m at right now. Again, this is November 25th. It’s a conversation we’re going to have because there’s nothing else to talk about. The Jets are miserable. But the thing is, it’s like in my world, I think the Jets are going to have four wins. They’re probably going to win a couple more games. I just think they’re going to because they’re playing competitive. They have some fight. They’re kind of figuring things out a little bit. So, if they end up with four or five wins, you’re not get you’re not gonna be at one or two. You’re going to be at five, six or seven. And as of now, as of today, I’m not with that. You know what? Let’s go trip and get Mendoza. I’m not really willing to do that. I’m not sure I want to do that. So, it’s okay. Find me that veteran quarterback that can be the bridge. Or you may catch Lightning in a bottle like you talked about Baker Mayfield, whoever else. And then you can go a run. You’re not pressured to get that the draft pick now. and I’m not have I don’t have to go first, second round. You can find a guy in the fourth round. Like, you know, I’m going to take a flyer on him with an eye towards next year. So, what would be the criteria for that quarterback then? Say that we’re in that five, six, seven, no man’s land of where you’re not playing your quarterback. What would you say? Would you say a guy that’s got to be less than 30 that’s going to take, you know, $10 million a year? Like, what would be your how would you start that out? Um, in the event that we’re not at one or two or something. Yep. If that’s the case, I need to feel really good. Like, okay, in other words, in your first scenario, if you want to say, okay, we have the second overall pick and Tennessee has the first pick. They go out and they draft whatever Arll Reese or Ruben Bane, whoever. Yep. Mendoza is on the board of two, we select him. Awesome. You want to bring Tyrod Taylor back and you want to say, “Okay, Tyrod is the guy or there’s a quarterback competition.” basically just saying, you know, Mendoza is going to be on the bench marinating, learning until he’s ready to play. We’re not going to pull the Joe Douglas with Zack and just throw him out there with no weapons, no line, no veteran quarterback to lean on, a young staff. We’re not going to go down that route. We’re going to make sure as a franchise we surround this guy with talent and he has time like Pat Mahomes, you know, Pat Mahomes had a whole year on the bench. Jordan, there’s so many examples that we can point to. And also, you know, kind of off topic, but if you listen to like the literal legends of the game, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Pton Manning, um you Cam Newton’s a big proponent of this as well, they love the idea of a player si a young quarterback sitting and not having that pressure early on to just carry the weight of the franchise in that rookie season and do everything and then move forward and the expectation just gets to grow and continues to grow. Um, yeah, and I’m with those guys. You know, I if we draft Mendoza, I don’t even necessarily want to see him out there in week one, but no, to answer your question, if we want to bring Tyrod back for next year and Mendoza is the pick and Taylor looked functional and I felt like he looked solid against Baltimore, not not a lead or anything, not great, but just definitely good enough. Definitely kept the Jets afloat. Didn’t screw the game up. Wasn’t a liability in my opinion. Took a bad sack, but that was pretty much about it. That is my only negative real negative play. Oh, yeah. Before the half was terrible. Yeah. Yeah. So, if you want to maybe bring him back, but you have the long-term piece in Mendoza, I’m cool with it. But in this situation, right, the level two here where we don’t have that top pick. Correct. Now, Tyrod is not Yeah, you can bring him back as the backup or what, you know, what have you. I need someone who I think really the Jets need someone that they can sell to the fans. Hey, we’re going to be competitive. Maybe there’s a one-year out after this thing. Whether that’s a Kyler Murray, whether that’s a M. Jones, whether that’s a Kurt Cousins, I think those three guys probably probably are. You know, you can sell the idea of a cur of a Kyler Murray le offense in the offseason. Like, hey, we’re this is a big upgrade. We’re definitely going to be competitive this upcoming season. Let’s just hypothetically say it doesn’t work out. Okay, it’s not the end of the world. We have three first round picks in 2027. We want We need a guy that’s experienced a like has starting quarterback experienced, plays at a high level, been there, done that, and not going to break the bank. Like I even like Justin Field’s money this year was kind of more than he really should have gotten when you look at the the quarterback market all across the NFL. I think Jets probably played a Jets tax, played the Steeler game, whatever else. But to me, it’s like I don’t think you have to pay that much money to a guy. But Tyrod Taylor in situation B, we’re saying right now we don’t have a top three pick. We’re going to say we’re going to draft a quarterback later on. To me, Tyrod Taylor wouldn’t fit at all because he’s older. He’s 36 years old and he’s hurt all the time. I want a guy that can play six, 15, 16 games and is healthy and durable. So now you’re you’re you’re going to go down a little bit more. You want a younger guy and you want a guy next thing is what kind of offense do the Jets want to kind of run because you’ve mentioned Kyler Murray, which we’re going to argue about in a minute, but is it is it when the Jets burn in Justin Fields, we kind of assumed some a certain type of offense and after all these weeks, it seems like he wasn’t right there for this offense because he can’t run with Angstrand once. So, do you need that mobile quarterback? Do you want a more pure pocket passer? Like, what do you think is the vision for Glenn and Angstran for this offense and who’d be a good fit for it? Because I think they realized quickly Fields wasn’t the guy for them and they had to kind of keep pushing it. It didn’t work. And now you’re seeing Tyro Taylor getting a chance to throw some more passes. Next year, you think you probably need a more established passer unless like not this a running quarterback that can throw every once every five plays. Yeah. You know, I I think for me, um, by the way, am I lagging at all? You’re good. No. Okay. Um, to me, it’s I think there’s just separate tiers, you know, like I I don’t necessarily think the perfect the picture perfect option is just looking the Jets right in the face and, hey, draft me or sign me, trade for me, whatever. I don’t think that option is out there. But there’s definitely options that are 100% upgrades over what we currently have. there are options that could benefit the team long term. Um, if you like for me, I don’t want to see because as a fan base, by the way, you know, we’re going to expect more next season. It’s year two of Glenn, it’s year two of Instrand. Uh, you’re assuming that we at least sign a couple free agents and it’s another draft class loaded in. So, just that in and of itself, we expect more wins. uh not you know be being more competitive is the precursor but getting more wins is like okay we we’re we’re expecting this. We can’t win four games this year and then three next year. I mean there are people that want Aaron Glenn fired today. They want him gone now. So I don’t know how Darren Muji and Aaron Glenn can hit the off season with over 100 million cap space trading Gardner, trading Quinn, uh having all these draft picks and then signing. I’m looking at the free agent list right now of undrafted free agent quarterbacks signing Russ, Marcus Mariota, Joe Flacco, Kenny Picket, Jimmy G, Trabiscy, Case. See, the thing is the thing is what’s the criteria though? Like cuz like if you’re saying you want do you want a young guy like do you want that young guy with maybe a glimmer of upside that you could say Tanner Angrank can coach him up because then Kenn can he pick your guy? He’s 27 years old and then everybody’s like well now Marcus Mariota is doing decent with commanders. Marcus Mariott is only 32. Mitch Trabiscy is 31. Like it’s, you know, you have all these different options. It’s kind of like what is the, you know what I mean? Like what are you looking for? Like is can he pick it? Is he even established enough? Because he he showed a glimmer of hope and then he got hurt. So yeah. So that’s my point. you know, I if that’s the quarterback option, just from an optic standpoint, the Jets are signing Russ or Mariota to be the one-year bridge gap to 2027 because they don’t like the quarterbacks in this class or they don’t feel like they’re in range to shoot up with a realistic trade package. Um, I don’t think that’s going to go over well and I think the criteria is, I mean, it’s really this basic question. Do you think that quarterback can a hold up for all 17 games and b be a benefit or at least a kind of neutral op average option at the position or is he going to be bottom three bottom five where we’re doing recap videos after each game saying should have had more quarterback play or Mario’s hurt or Tyrod Taylor’s hurt again we can’t rely on him. I don’t think Glenn can survive a whole another season like that but if Go ahead. No, just another another aspect of this is and how much does it factor in like right now in my world again Justin Fields isn’t coming back next year. I think they’re going to be like no take the cat pit. Didn’t work out. He probably wants out whatever he’s going to be gone. Tyrod Taylor is going to be gone. If you head into the free agency with this done, your your first call to whatever receiver you want. Like how do you even sell your program if you don’t have a quarterback in the building? Like it’s like, well, we maybe draft this kid, maybe have that kid. Like, well, all right, coach. Who is your quarterback? Who’s gonna be my chance to win games? I’m gonna come here. You’re gonna pay me a Jets tax, but how am I like what’s your what’s your vision to make this team win in 2026? And if you’re going to trot out Kenny Picket, all right, is that going to inspire free agents to want to come here? Like, how does is that a factor for you or no? Yes, a thousand%. Because reality is there’s a lot of other teams that are pretty damn good that really need wide receivers. The Bills, they actually Brandon Cooks today. Uh, the Chiefs need help at wide receiver. The Yeah, I I mean, the Jaguars, right, they’re not this elite team, but they’re right now in the playoff picture. Pittsburgh really needs help at wide receiver. So, if you’re uh bidding against all these teams, you need to have something other than money to negotiate with. You know, you you have to have that that, you know, trump card. Boom. I have Josh Allen. What team has Josh Allen? the only team that can compete with that is Kansas City with Mahomes. Um the Jets currently don’t have that that you know major factor at this point in time. So here’s the positive again the draft order having that understood is one thing. We’ll get to that point you know in six weeks. But another thing is if we go down the route of trading for a quarterback let’s throw out you know just quick four quick four names. Kyler Murray, Kurt Cousins, M. Jones, Jaylen Herz. Well, that’s realist possibility of Go ahead. And that and that’s the thing because if you look at like the names we’re gonna we talked about just now like and I see it in the chat too. The only one that does kind of intrigue me a little bit is Malik Willis because all right he’s young. He’s only what the hell is he really? He’s 26 years old in that you know in that system where he’s learning he’s a great athlete. All this stuff interesting but is that really fit fitting your proven commodity for your team? Not really. Right. It’s like he’s he’s kind of like a risky move. So if you have your guys Sam Howell, Tommy Devito, Gardenner Mincchu, Teddy Bridgewwater’s 33, you have all these guys like, you know what, you don’t get that feeling where I can sell this to free agency. I can sell this to my team because guess what? You have Bruce Hall’s going to be sitting there. Garrett Wilson be like, dude, I’m tired of losing. I want to score points. I want to win. Assuming Bree gets tagged. Sell me something better than this. Okay. Now you’re like, this list, this is a very uninspiring list where you talked about it yourself. It’s other teams need quarterbacks too, right? So, it’s not gonna be like only the Jets need a quarterback. Everybody needs one. So, if you say this list isn’t where you want it to be, now you got to consider these guys that are out there, Kyler Murray, things like that. If you’re going to make that trade, to me, it’s like this guy has got to be a much better version of Justin Fields in terms of I mean, Fields is a good leader. He’s got to be a guy this team can rally around. He can be believe in. He can be that prominent figure in the locker room. First guy in, last guy out. He’s another culture guy for your team because they need that dude. right now they’re kind of a rudderless ship on offense. You need that guy that they can believe they can win games with. That’s going to come at a price. That’s going to come at draft picks and probably a contract because the guys you mentioned aren’t going to come cheap, especially Kyler. So, yeah, you’re right. You’re right. um if you go down the route of trading for one of those four quarterbacks and obviously those you know four kind of range and talent and where they’re at in their career, but let’s just say and and so the original point that I was going to make by the way was free agency opens up mid-March. Um you can trade for a quarterback after the year. Yep. It just doesn’t become official until the new league year starts. So, if you want to do it like that, if you’re the Jets where we’re looking at the free agent options and we’re like, uh, we’re not going to go pay Russ, we’re not going to go pay Mario, whatever, that that’s not a long-term or even short-term solution for a 17game season to where we need to see a significant boost, a significant upgrade in what we’re currently seeing right now. Does Mario, if you take Mariota, if you take Russ, if you take whoever, Devito, you drop him into this Jet team right now, how much better are they actually going to get? Maybe one or two wins, maybe. Um, the standard’s got to be higher than that. The standard’s got to be a lot higher than that. This has got to be a at least a game manager at best. Got to be at least a game manager and a chance to help you win football games. It’s got a guy that you got to be competitive where your your quarterback’s not holding you back. Like they like this year can’t it can’t be this year again like wow man we’re a quarterback away. Absolutely not. Whoever you bring as a veteran has got to be competent and can be coached up and fit your offense because you have no excuses next year. This was your year to identify your offense, identify your playmakers, and identif identify your blueprint. Next year you’re not getting no more excuses at quarterback, especially with a veteran. They’ve got to be because you see plug and play all over the NFL. It happens all the time. and the backups step up and play well like you saw Davis Mills mention and all these other guys. Yeah. The Jets don’t get that luxury next year, man. So, they’ve got to have a a solid plan here. Right. Right. And so, if the Jets want to, again, you were talking about how do you sell the Jets to a potential wide receiver or really any free agent really. Um, if they go down the route of trading, let’s just say boom, the Jets come out and they acquire Kyler Murray, they acquire Kurt Cousins or just some playable option, you at least now can walk to the table and say, “We have a we have a quarterback.” You know, he might not be top five, but not might not be top 10, but we at least have a playable option. Um, and you can break that news in February. You know, we’re going to be acquiring him. It’s just not official until the new league year starts. So that could be a way or like a a workaround, a loophole with fi getting a a quality quarterback before free agency actually opens up. And by the way, this assumes that you don’t land that first or second pick, which I think that’s in my assumption throughout all of this. Right. Right. Um and it’s it’s tough because those four quarterbacks I think if you compare take your pick with any of them, right? Even even Davis Mills, too. I feel better about Davis Mills in a 17 game stretch than I do about Wentz than I do about uh you know one of these uh one-year vet guys. Y um I don’t think Fields is going to be back next season, but Cousins, you know, I I don’t really personally I hate the contract. It’s 57 mil over the next two seasons each. Each not together each. It’s a lot of money. Um, you know, M. Jones, I think, is intriguing, but I think the push back that I have with Mack is if the Jets really loved him, why couldn’t they get they sign him this past off season where they’re not trading away a draft pick? Like, what are we really seeing in San Francisco right now that that’s different about M. Jones? Like, M. Jones to me feels like he’s the same quarterback as last season. And, ironically enough, he lit the Jets up when he played as the backup in Jacksonville. late into the year. Kyler Murray and Jaylen Herz though, that feels a little bit different than Mack and Cousins. That feels more so like you’re pushing your chips into the middle of the table. Hey, if you drop one of those guys into the lineup now, the expectation isn’t really seven, eight wins, it’s like nine, 10 wins. Oh, I mean, yeah, I think there’s I think even those two, it’s like apples and oranges. I think Jaylen Herz, which I know everybody keeps telling me it’s a pipe dream, and it could very well be. All I know is the Philadelphia Eagles are dysfunctional mess right now. They are complete chaos. I live very close to Philadelphia. I hear sports radio all day long complaining about Herz and the offense and everything else. So, anything is possible, but I love him a lot more than I like Kyler Murray. And the number one reason why is you’re inheriting a very young Jets offense that is looking for a leader, a guy they could follow, has that work ethic, that that respect all around the league. I don’t think Kyler Murray has that. I just don’t think he has it. The rap on him has been work ethic, not really a team guy. Kind of like it just hasn’t really been working out for him. And he’s got talent like you talked about. He got talent. I have a list of guys I’d rather have instead of him. But to me, and Jaylen Herz could be a pipe dream, but to me, he is light years ahead of what I want out of Kyler Murray. He costs a lot more and he would cost a lot more in terms of contract and in terms of draft compensation. But to me, it’s like you’re getting a franchise quarterback. That’s a guy where you’re like, you know what, you could draft a guy in the fourth round after that. I don’t give a rat’s ass them because you’re like, you got your quarterback. But that’s a pipe dream. But that’s, you know, M. Jones comes with concerns. I saw in the chat where it’s like he could be assistant quarterback. He’s a Kyle Shanahan guy, right? Kyler Murray comes with to me a lot more concerns where I’m like, “All right, great athlete, but is he a culture guy for Aaron Glenn and this team?” Not so sure about that. Kurt Cousins, the contract is an albatross. And right now, he’s auditioning. You’re going to see him firsthand on Sunday. He’s really auditioning for him, but he’s also blown the Jets off twice already. So, is it for his last chance to start he come here? because he hasn’t wanted to come here two other times before this. Yeah. And another thing too that we have to keep in mind with Kirk and the man the whole Falcon situation like you’re ascent like I mean Michael Pennix is done for the year. I believe it’s an ACL. So is there 100% certainty that Pennix is going to come back and be 1,000% ready for week one, be healthy in training camp, and be the go-to guy? Is he going to look the same? Is he going to be a little rusty? Is he going to have a small setback? I Does Raheem Morris have that opportunity? I would say Raheem Morris based off of this season is on the hot seat. I I mean, he has four wins on the year. That team has so much talent. Yeah. By the way, they had two first round picks last year. They traded away a firstrounder. So, right now, if the season were to end today, they have a top 10 pick, but it’s going to the Rams who I believe right now I think record-wise are the best team in the league. So, if you’re a Falcons fan, you’re like, “Okay, well, PennX is down with the ACL. We don’t have a first round pick next year. I think we’re looking at just under 7 mil in cap space.” Yeah. Before cuts granted like it is not looking great. It coming off a disappointing season. I mean, everybody had that Fal, well, not everybody, but a lot of people had the Falcons winning that division this season, thinking that, you know, losing uh Liam Cohen to Jacksonville was going to really hurt Tampa. Uh I mean, that down here in Tampa, that was a lot of the talk, right? Like, how does Grisard do as OC? Could this be the year where Atlanta just really, you know, overtakes Tampa? Obviously, that hasn’t happened, but Atlanta has been such a disappointment. Are they now in a position where they’re going to be it’s I mean we’re going to be seeing Cousins for the rest of the season. Yeah. And that so this assumes that he plays well, but are are the Falcons now going to trade Cousins when they could actually use him in the offseason for reps and to be, you know, maybe the starter for a month or something like that? I’m not sure. So the whole thing with Cousins is yes, I think he’s better than what we have now, but he’s expensive. you’re going to have to trade, you know, trade something away for him. Uh, but that could be, you know, I you you can paint the picture of the Jets acquiring Kurt Cousins for like a day three pick. They tell Atlanta, “You pay half the deal or 75% of the deal or something.” Um, and we’ll give you maybe like a better draft pick and then he’s our one-year bridge to 2027. But, you know, reality is the Jets actually have they have to win games next year. And if they don’t think that Kirk Cousins can do it or they don’t think that he can get them to seven, I’m going to put just put the bar at 78. Um, do you think, you know, I don’t know. Do you think Trevor Lawrence, you know, he’s had a frustrating season with Liam Cohen. Do you think Trevor Lawrence is a guy that they could be like, you know what, this ain’t going to work for our system. It could work for our team even though they’re in a playoff hunt. Do you see him maybe a guy that can pop available? And if so, would you consider him like make it make your power move? He’s young. Like, hey, what is he 26 years old or something? Like he’s really young. Yeah, maybe. I mean, I I’m not really the biggest Trevor Lawrence guy. He’s actually in the middle of one of his worst seasons. That’s what I’m saying. If he’s like that in their first year and they’re winning kind of in spite of him at times. Yeah. I I mean, if you just look at the the pure numbers, I mean, he has a completion percentage under 60%. Yep. 14 touchdowns to 11 picks. It it doesn’t really feel like he’s uplifting the team. It just kind of feels like like the defense is overperforming in my opinion. Uh you feel like they’re really really well coached on both sides of the football offensively and defensively. But you have these moment you have these like Jameus Winston moments with Lawrence where he’s just launching the ball making like this crazy decision. I don’t I don’t know if Lawrence is the guy for me where I’m going to go all in because another thing we have to keep in mind Trevor Lawrence is on a humongous deal. Well, that’s the thing. But also, you can make the argument that it’s like the contract is something, but also it’s like a change of scenery could help too. Like, you know, like everybody says, “I want the next Baker Maf. I want the next this and that.” Well, you know what? Everybody quit on these guys. So, they say the only difference with Trevor Lawrence is he’s not getting cut. He has a contract you can inherit. But to me, it’s like, “All right, would you rather have Trevor Lawrence or Kyler Murray?” I got to look at the Lawrence contract. Um, look at it now. Let’s do this. CL. Okay. All right. Yeah, let’s pull it up. I was in the middle of looking up the the Kurt Cousins con uh Kurt Cousins contract because I know he has a potential out after 2020. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Here I got it. So Cousins right now he’s a $40 million capit for uh for 2025. He has a potential out in 2026. Uh $35 million dead cap hit for Atlanta. Um I I just can’t see him actually staying on the roster for 57.5 mil. I mean, that’s 18 according to spot track. It’s eight. It’s just under 19% of the cap is going to Kurt Cousins. So, you know, yeah, I guess maybe he could get cut if the Falcons are because another thing that we have to factor in with the whole dead money is if you’re a coach like Aaron Glenn right now, if you’re a coach like Kell Moore, uh Mike Vrabel, Ben Johnson, you know, the the dead money is not the end of the world because it’s year one of the regime. are all going to be here for the for, you know, ideally the long term. But if you’re a coach like Mike McDaniel and you have dead money, if you’re a coach like Brian Dball coming into the season, Brian Callahan, Raheem Morris is kind of the point here. You don’t want to like you need like you’ve been here for a couple years, your culture is there, your players are there, your system is there. Yeah, you need to start winning games. And if you have massive portions of the cap just going to dead money and you’ve already filled out the roster in your vision, that is not good. Again, just throwing out names here. Mike McDaniel, Kevin Stfansky. Kevin Stfansky can’t afford to have tons of dead money because he’s been here for years. Like, we need to see more progress here. And it’s not the end of the world if Kell Moore has to deal with some some older uh veteran Saints contracts. It’s not the end of the world if Rabbel has some dead money that he has to deal with because they’re going to be here for a long time long a long time ideally speaking. So, I don’t know if Rahee Mo I I think they’re going to try to hang on to him as long as they can. Um, I just don’t know how that whole thing is. I I mean, honestly, I don’t want to f know, the the Falcons general manager, he might be even on a hotter seat compared to they could potentially blow the entire thing up. So, yeah, I don’t know. So, then talk to me about Trevor Lawrence’s contract. What like what is his deal? And like because that’s that to me if I had a choice of Kyler Murray or Trevor Lawrence I would say take the flyer and Trevor Lawrence and just hopefully that change of scenery helps maybe better coaching maybe just whatever whatever it could be taking that chance with the he’s got a ton of talent just not coming out for whatever reason is it an albatross of a contract uh with Lawrence. Yeah. It just feels to me like yes of course you can sell it. Yeah. If you’re trying to maybe picture Lawrence in the golf archetype, you could potentially, you know, do that. But what’s Aaron Glenn’s fastest way to win a veteran quarterback? It really is. If he if he’s feeling the heat now where it’s like, you know, rough year this year, they expect a lot more out of me next year, which they have to. His best path to to winning is a veteran quarterback. So, I’m like, all right, we talked about the free agents that are out there, which is less than inspiring. If you have to make a move for a guy like this, cuz everybody wants M. Jones. All right. Well, you’re talking M. Jones. You’re talking maybe Trevor Lawrence if he becomes available. If Lawrence’s contract like the Jets have to be bold and aggressive, I think, dude, you can’t be like, well, you know, it’s Yeah. How bad’s his contract? Is it bad? Lawrence, yeah, I’m looking at it here right now. So, he is a $17 million cap hit for this season. Not bad. 2026 24. Not bad. 2027 35. 2028 47. And it continues to go up. 2029 he’s a $78.5 million cap hit. 2030 $74.8 million cap hit. Uh it looks like there’s a potential out after or uh let’s see potential out in 2029. So that’s three years. But that like if you if you’re essentially, dude, if you’re trading for Trevor Lawrence, first of all, the whole conversation on what you would have to give up for him is one thing because I don’t I don’t know that Jackson would just let him go for, you know, I would say probably two first rounders gets you in the door talking about a a realistic deal. I don’t think you can call Jackson and say, “Hey, we’ll give you one first in a second or one first and a third. Yeah, they’re probably want at least two two first. Yeah. So, um what do you think would require what do you think would would require more compensation? Would it be Trevor Lawrence or Kyler Murray? Like I agree, Jackson like Yeah. So, but like what would you think would be the compensation for Kyler Murray? I would say you wouldn’t have to give up a first for him. You don’t think so? Because of his contract? Because of the situation. I I think it’s obvious that Arizona is going to be be moving off of them. So, I I don’t know, granted, a lot of teams need quarterbacks, but you know, who’s actually at this point going to be offering a first round pick for for Kyler Murray, especially because he’s dealing with the midfoot injury. So, but would you rather have M. Jones or Kyler Murray? I would rather have Kyler Murray. Really? I think Kyler Murray is the better quarterback. better quarterback than M. Jones. I think if you go with Mack, you you’re hoping it could be more than a one-year thing. But I guess with Mack, you have the I I guess with either quarterback, you have the out after the season anyway with just saying, “Hey, yeah, we’re moving on in 2027 and we have three first round picks to go make it happen at quarterback.” Like if you trade for Kyler, for Cousins, for Mack, you you can sell that as a one-year thing if it doesn’t go well. If you trade for Lawrence, if you trade for Herz, no, that’s not you’re not moving on after a season. If that’s your that’s your all move. That’s our that’s your franchise quarterback move. That that’s probably the only two guys I’d feel like that. Lawrence is a lot risky. I like Herds a lot. That may not happen. Now, the Kyler Murray thing gets interesting because what’s his contract isn’t like it’s is he a guy where if you say you trade for Kyler Murray that you’re not worried about drafting a quarterback, you’re like, you know what, we got him. We can get a quarterback flyer in the third or fourth round, maybe developmental guy, or do you still feel the need to get that young quarterback that could be your potential starter in a year from now? Not in 200. Like if the Jets were to acquire one of these vets, I think that kind of pushes the question pushes the talking point into 2027. So for Kyler Murray, so Kyler Murray this year, say they trade for Kyler Murray February 1st, whatever date it is. In this upcoming draft, you’re quarterback’s not a priority to you. You’re like, you know what, take know first couple rounds get premium positions that we desperately need. After that, take a flyer on a quarterback that you know, not a a prospect. Yeah, that would be my way of thinking. And then next year make it a priority like listen if we’re in that, you know, a much better quarterback class in theory as of today, then you may take that aggressive shot at that franchise quarterback next year in 2027. Yeah. Because if if my goal is to take a quarterback in this year’s class, I’m not even going to bother trading for, you know, for one of these proven guys. Yep. Like a Kyler or Herz. Cousins and Mac are a little bit more a little bit more I I guess easier to digest. The thing is with M. Jones though, you know, it’s so easy. Oh, just trade for Mac. Jones. It’s so easy to say that, but if you’re the 49ers, what would you what would you realistically take for Mac? Well, it’s tough. Let me ask you, what would be the realistic conver uh compensation? Well, the you have two problems. Brock Per is always hurt. He’s getting hurt all the time now, right? And he hasn’t been playing well. He’s very inconsistent, man. Like, you see the good Py and then you see the bad perie. It was the game last night was awful. Like, you know, it’s like he So, when and now you’re seeing 49er fans saying, you know what, Bench Parie play M Jones? Like, they literally want that change because they saw the offense run smoother with less turnovers or anything else. So, that’s where it gets interesting where the 49ers had the best of both worlds. Like, why would they even trade him when they have their insurance policy already on the roster? Like, why bother? Like, they don’t have to make a move. Like, because we want doesn’t mean they want like they may say we need two quarterbacks based on peries always getting hurt. Yeah. Yeah. And and so that’s my point, right? What would San Francisco Yeah. take, you know, what would it take to bring him get him out of that 49ers building because he fits the system over there. He’s proven that he can win games. I think he has what 13 touchdowns to six picks or something like that. He’s he’s looked pretty good. but he’s not looked, you know, fantastic. But he’s been definitely, you know, above average for what the 40 I mean, if 49ers fans are are calling for it, then, you know, there’s he he obviously looks the part. Um, so when you hit the offseason and then factoring in the the Brock Party injury stuff, once you hit the offseason, the Jets cannot call the 49ers and say, “Hey, we’ll give you a seventh.” Nope. 40. San Franc is just going to laugh at them, right? Mack signed a two-year deal knowing that he was going to be the backup. So, first of all, you have to assume that if the Jets actually loved M. Jones this entire time, they would have approached him in the offseason with a contract that said, “Okay, maybe it’s something similar to what Justin Field Justin Fields got.” And you would have that opportunity to start because Mack declined the option in Jacksonville. So, he became a free agent. he almost like bet on himself, but he just literally just swapped teams to be the back swapped backup jobs. Um, and so again, like is it realistic to assume that Max said, “No, I don’t want to be the Jets starter. I want to go be the 49ers backup for two years.” Probably not. I just don’t think that the Jets probably pursued it. Um, but also to be fair though, the Jets weren’t exactly an organization anybody wanted to play for. new head coach, first- time offensive coordinator, first- time QB coach. It’s not like you say, “Let me go play for the Jets and resurrect my career and play good football.” There was so many unknowns here. Like, you know what? I’m gonna avoid them because I just want to be a part of that because they’re not established. Like, if you had like you I’d be if I’m M. Jones, like, you know what? I want to put under Kyle Shanahan and figure out what he has here. Kind of get myself back together, rebuild my just my career instead of going to sync with the Jets in theory because we don’t know what they’re even doing in a true rebuild. Yeah. I just I I have a hard time looking at assuming that M. Jones looked at the Jets and said, “Okay, I have the possibility to start. I would be the favorite to start and I’m probably turning down, let’s call it 20 million guaranteed, $25 million guaranteed to just go be.” And another thing, too, is he signed a two-year deal. So, he signed up to be the backup for two years again in theory. Um, but anyway, to to kind of bring it back to the main point, 49ers, they’re not going to accept a seventh. They’re not going to accept a sixth. They’re not going to accept a fifth. I think a fourth round if if Muji calls Lynch and is, you know, hey, M. Jones, could he be available for a fourth round pick? I don’t think he would just hang up immediately. I think there would maybe be some I wouldn’t do it. Some other some Yeah. some other back and forth. Um, I just, if I was a 49er fan, I would not want to trade him for a fourth round pick. 100%. Nope. I You can argue M. Jones could be like the Nick Fos of the 49ers, right? Where he’s a reliable backup who can step in potentially win you a Super Bowl. You know, I know it sounds crazy right now in November, but you if continues to play poorly or he gets hurt again, if you’re a 49er fan and M. Jones has to start a playoff game, it’s not automatic loss. It doesn’t feel like Tyler Huntley with Baltimore or if Trabiscy had to play for the Bills in the playoffs or Mason Rudolph or the Steelers where it’s just like, well, we have barely have a chance in this one. Like with Mack, you’re like, okay, like we can we still have a really good chance to win this one. I I’m not trading a fourthrounder or or sorry, I’m not trading M away for a fourth if I’m Lynch. So then it’s like, okay, do you do a third? Well, the Jets don’t have a third. So now it’s a second. Yeah. Or do you do multiple fourths or a fourth this year and a third next? It just fuels. Yeah. Like it’s it’s the trade compensation isn’t is is a whole big conversation because Max stock is pretty much at an all-time high post draft. And it’s just kind of weird because we would essentially be buying high on M. Jones when we could have had him as the starter and we didn’t have to give up any draft capital in the offseason if we just identified him as as the option. Again, assuming that they actually have interest. And then the last uh quick point is, you know, if the Jets have interest in Mack, why wouldn’t the Steelers, why wouldn’t the Saints or, you know, any one of these other, you know, QB needy teams? No. And that’s the whole thing. It’s like it’s not like the Jets are on an island by themselves. Like, we’re the only team needs a quarterback. Just help us and we’re going to go on our merry way. No, you’re gonna have a lot of competition and the guy’s gonna want to go there and kind of embrace the challenge of the Jets, which makes this really interesting. So now the Kyler Murray thing to me, we’ve been joking around this for a couple weeks and going back and forth and like last week you said, “Give me 20 quarterbacks better than him.” I have 16 slam dunks that I know are legitimately better than him. But then you have a group that are kind of in that weird zone where it’s like all right what’s is it like you can assess the quarterback Kyler Murray but it’s like you’re trying to assess him also being the best fit for the Jets which makes it kind of interesting because it’s like all right how does he go in there? So just say for example like like would you consider like just say for example is Bryce Young a really young quarterback and then the best of games is he better do you think than Kyler Murray? Like if you weren’t for the Jets, if I had a choice of Bryce Young or Kyler Murray, I’d probably say Bryce Young just based on potential. Well, something I I I think that we do have to mention somewhat of like a caveat here is that the perception around these quarterbacks does change because if I would have asked you in March, most people, the majority of people would have said Kyler. Yep. If I would have asked, hey, is Daniel Jones a top 32 quarterback? Most people would say no. Exact. That’s where that’s the gray area now. Exactly. Yep. Yeah. But if you were to ask, hey, is Daniel Jones better than Kyler Murray right now? Some would say yes, some would say no. But m I I think kind of the other side of the coin here is even though Daniel Jones right now might be better than Kyler Murray, who’s to say Kyler can’t be better a year from now, you know that, you know, his second chapter can’t unfold. You know, think of like when Goff went to the Rams, his reputation was shot. when Baker I mean he was bouncing around but the reputations were never what Kyler Murray has though like Goff was always a very respected guy he was always very respected Kyler Murray doesn’t have that same label man as of like I’ve been doing all kinds of research man like trying to figure out like finding all the different articles and the coach speaking everything else and the work ethic thing always comes up and that just drives me insane and that’s one thing that’s non-negotiable first in last out you got to be the leader of this team where where Bree Hall rolls up and guys are in the office for two hours already studying film Like that’s the kind of guy I want. Especially with this culture, Aaron Glenn’s kind of changed. You can’t have a guy half ass and things and taking shortcuts and like you know what, my natural talent’s going to win the game. You trust me. No, we’re not going to trust you. You just got, you know, you got hurt, but like you weren’t playing well with the Cardinals, you know what I mean? So, it’s like I don’t that’s where I make this is kind of difficult for me where I understand what you’re saying and I I appreciate what he could bring to the table, but that off the field stuff, the the stigma around him really really bothers me, man. So, do you think in any sort of realistic world that that could change that he maybe feels like he has a chip on his shoulder now leaving Arizona because they’re kicking it to the curb for Jacobe Brassette? Um, do you think do you think he’s cut or do you think he has to be traded? I think he probably I mean I don’t think the Cardinals have to do anything if they don’t really want to. I think the writing’s on the wall though, man. It’s It’s pretty much obvious now. They the injury was kind of convenient, but I think they were they’re ready to move on from him now. Yeah, I would have to take a look at the dead cap. I believe it is pretty big if the Cardinals take if the Cardinals were to cut him this off season. Ideally, they would trade him for a minimal pack. Not ideal for the Cardinals, but well, ideal for the Cardinals financially, but not draft hallwise. that is just something that a team is going to be buying low on Kyler because of what’s been going on. And Jonathan Ganon, by the way, to kind of bring this back to what we were talking about before, um Ganon is another one of these coaches that can’t afford 50 $60 million in dead cap just allocated. you know that I mean you have teams operating, you know, in the NFL with like a with a full full-on roster where you have everybody contributing and you might have some extra space in the middle of the season. That’s all well and good. Like look at New England for example. Yeah, they have some holes, but they have so much space. The Cardinals have a bunch of holes. You’re going to want every dollar that you possibly can in free agency. um not really including the draft because I I don’t really think you should be like attacking the draft so desperately where you need like to hit on in every single round. Is Ganon really in a position to take on all that cap space or all that uh dead money and just say well we need all these positions uh but we can’t go out and do it. We can’t go out and sign all the players that we want in a very pivotal year because if Ganon doesn’t win next year, he’s going to be on a hot seat. Yeah. Yeah. I would say he’s on a hot seat right now. I mean, how many wins did the Cardinals have? Three, four, something along those four. Disappointing. Yep. And this is not Ganon’s first rodeo. He’s been here for a couple years now. Um, if So, you’re so with with what you’re saying basically with the the selling point for Kyler Murray is the compensation may not be as much because they’re kind of stuck. They’re like in theory stuck with him where they don’t want him anymore, but cutting him will completely destroy them. But they may say, “Listen, we’ll take a fifth round pick or whatever else just to get him out of here and we can move on, you know, go our separate way.” So for him, it’s like you’re getting potentially a very good quarterback for minimal compensation, but the contract, that’s how you’re looking at it. Yeah. And I’m not saying Kyler Murray is the end all. Like he’s the guy. He’s the number one option for me. I’m just simply pointing out the obvious, which is people’s reputations and people’s careers can change. You know, we have numerous examples of that. And I’m posing the question, is it impossible for Kyler Murray to Is it out of the question that he cannot bounce back? Yeah. And that see to me it’s like if I’m taking that chance I’d rather take that chance on a guy like Trevor Lawrence who again I know this different situation but like where Trevor Lawrence isn’t that potential problem where you’re like oh man is he care about the game of football does he love playing football is he a leader like you know he he’s vested he’s just struggling as opposed to Kyler Murray where he can get those flashes but the sometimes you know the juice isn’t worth the squeeze you know what I mean? Yeah, and I I you know, for what it’s worth, Lawrence and Kyler are both upgrades over what we currently have. And I do think whether you know, if the Jets go down either path, we would be in a better position next season, assuming we also have first round picks and whatnot, we’ll actually scratch that because with Trevor, you’d have to give up multiple ones. Yeah, absolutely. I think the key difference with Kyler to Lawrence, ironically enough, both first overall picks, but Murray you can move off of if it doesn’t go well or if you just feel like ah he’s average, it’s not really working out or maybe you thought he was going to come in with this chip on his shoulder like you know like this is kind of like I’m a little bit older now. Like I’ve talked to a bunch of Cardinal fans and they’ve all kind of said that early on in in his career he didn’t really take it all that the uh the pra you know the the whole behind the scenes stuff all that seriously and relied a lot on his talent and then he ran into a couple injuries some poor play and then most like as of late he started to really try to buckle down with the off the- field trying to be like a figurehead of the organization but from the Cardinal fans that I’ve talked to it’s all just kind of like it’s it’s too little too late. Like the time is is up. Um so, you know, point is if you get Kyler in the building and he it doesn’t work out for whatever reason, you can say, “All right, whatever.” You know, yes, it’s going to cost us money, but we’re not we didn’t trade three firsts to get him and we still have all of our first round picks here. We still, you know, can make a move in the 2027 draft class and potentially swing with Lawrence. like you’re stuck for a long long time and you don’t you’re not going to have as many assets, I’m assuming, uh to build the team, you know, around him if if you’re trading basically all these picks for him. Yeah. And now, so this is another guy where it’s like this is a really good point you made earlier on. I was going to say the same thing. It’s going into the year everybody’s like Daniel Jones is watched, you know, I watched him with the Giants. It was just like he’s always hurt. He just you’re wrong thing at the wrong time. And then now he goes to the Colts. Starts out like an MVP candidate over the first portion of the year. Now slowing down a little bit struggling against better teams. To me it’s like I think he’s in a spot now where the Colts are going to pay him because they kind of obligated unless he completely melts down towards the end of the season into the playoffs where they go like hot start and he completely falls apart like you know what we can’t warrant giving him 40 million a year. But to me, bringing Don Jones back to the New York market here after all that and all we’ve seen of him, I don’t he’s just not an answer for me, dude. I maybe because I’m just biased because I’ve seen him firsthand for so long. And it could be just, you know, I just that wouldn’t be a guy I’m giving Big Bunny to. Yeah. And, you know, he’s kind of in the same vein as Mack. You know, a former first round pick that really rebuilt his reputation this season. Obviously, Daniel Jones has had the much bigger uh sample size. and you know what he’s doing with Indianapolis because you I mean we’ve all seen the arguments right Kyle Shanahan any quarterback that he works with is just efficient and the offense works and it’s smooth Shane Sy was on the hot seat coming into the year and Daniel Jones like when they brought him in it’s just like okay there’s going to be some competition with him in in uh Richardson right a lot of people still had Richardson winning that job including myself um but not only did Jones just win the job outright but he has been playing some pretty good football and like you said he slowed down as of slowed down as of late. But yeah, I think he’s going to be back with Indianapolis with Daniel Jones though. You mentioned like bringing him back to New York. Here’s a name that just, you know, wanted to get your thoughts on. Um, in the event that, and I don’t think that they’re going to do this because I don’t really think it’s all his fault on what’s going on, but if the Raiders cut Gino Smith, they would save 8 mil against the cap, but they already have. So, I believe they have so much projected cap space anyway. Um, it, you know, is that something that Pete Carol would I because if you listen to Pete Carol in press conferences, he literally says like Gino Smith has no chance. Like he’s like the offensive line needs to play better. Like Kelly’s been a nightmare. Chip Kelly was awful, dude. Yeah. Fired midway through his first season with the Raiders. Now they’re back with Greg Olsen. Um, they traded away Jacobe Meyers. like he’s it feels like a very like this team should be rebuilding but they’re trying to win now with minimal talent. But in the event that Gino is just outright released and we don’t have to trade away a draft pick for him, would you have any sort of interest there? The thing is I think he wouldn’t come back here. I think he just he went through New York experience. He went through like the ugly left when he left and the fans were pissed and media roasted him where it’s like I think it’s he’d be like he’d be a legitimate good bridge quarterback though. That’s the kind of guy where you you have him. He’s serviceable. He’s competent. He could play at a high level. We saw it. I think the Raiders are just a complete disaster right now. But I just don’t think he’d come back here. But that’s the kind of guy like, “All right, that’s two years of good competitive football while you groom your young kid. That’d be like the best. Like that’s like a better version of like having Jameus Winston. He’s better than Jamus, you know. But that’s but I just don’t think he’d ever come here, which is the problem, you know?” But that’s that’s kind of where I’m at now. There’s an interesting question, too. It’s just like with, you know, who’s better right now, Gino Smith or Kyler Murray? Well, Kyler gives you the upside. I think Gino probably gives you the the more stable, you know, uh, stability from a leadership standpoint and stuff like that. Uh, say it again. That’s number 17. I got 17 guys better than him now. So, I’m getting up there now. Well, well, let me ask you again. Like, and funny enough, Gino Smith was kind of the Daniel Jones, Baker Mayfield story originally. you know, when you think about his career, like kind of leaving the Jets, becoming a backup, bouncing around uh Chargers, Giants, and whatnot, backed up Russ for a while, and then got his chance and then re really rebuilt his career. I mean, if you would have suggested in 2015, Gino Smith can be, you know, a solid option in 2025, people would be like, “What are you talking about, man?” Like, he’s he’s this guy’s a career backup. Still young, too. Yep. So, you know, how can this guy be a for sure? I mean, Tyrod Taylor started his careerh career out as a backup end up getting an opportunity in Buffalo. So, I don’t know. I I don’t want to It feels strange to me looking at Jones, look both Jones, right? Mack and and Daniel, looking at Gino’s uh Gino’s story, looking at Darnold, looking at Baker, a lot of people wrote off Bryce Young as as a complete bust. Um, you know, I I would find it very weird just looking at Kyler and saying like, “Yeah, that guy has no chance.” Now, do you think having Angstrand here as a coordinator and Aaron Glenn as a head coach could be a deterrent in any factor where like, “All right, we watch their offense this year. Nothing really all that great, uninspiring, but they have playmakers. You have Garrett Wilson, Mason Taylor, most likely Breece Halt. They franchise tag him. Probably another receiver at least you’re hoping. Is there is the Jets current setup and the Woody Johnson in the background, you know, stigma around him. Is it kind of a deterrent where they’re like, you know what, I really don’t want to play for Tanner Angran. He doesn’t have an offense I can make sure I can flourish in. Is that a factor? I think so. I think so. But what you know, the counter to that is, well, they have to sign somewhere and every one of these bad teams. Well, every one of these bad teams has some sort of you know, skeleton that they have to Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know, what’s another team? Cleveland. You know, I think probably the best team right now with the best situation that will be needing a quarterback in the offseason is Pittsburgh. Yeah. So, but Pittsburgh will not be finishing with a top 10 pick. So, you know, I think if you’re like if you’re M. Jones and and you have an offer from the you know uh the Jets offer a trade package, the Steelers offer a trade package and you know hypothetically Lynch goes to Mack and and says hey pulls you know Tyreek Hill with the Chiefs. We have two offers. We’re down to take either. Where do you want to go? He’s going to Pittsburgh. Like why would he come to the Jets? So unfortunately that that’s just the position that the Jets are in. But, uh, again, I think there’s a lot of teams that need quarterbacks that don’t have you a lot to really work with. Now, would you consider I know Afram’s got a couple on there about Mchu and Marcus Mariota. Would you consider Marcus Mariota if you’re going to a much lesser pay tier? He’s what is he’s 32 years old. Do you consider him an upgrade from Fields where you like, “All right, listen. He’s a legit bridge guy where you know what you’re kind of getting out of him.” Is it an upgrade from Fields where it keeps you competitive while you groom a young quarterback or is he more like a guy that you’re worried in four games everybody’s gonna hit him and get benched and we’re gonna be like back to where we are right now just scrambling again. Who was the name you kind of it kind of Marcus Mariota I think you know I’m not I’m not I don’t I I can’t confidently say a he could be the starter for 17 games. You know, Atlanta tried that with Arthur Smith. You know, could that be maybe like Mario 2 point, you know, Falcons Mariota 2.0 with the Jets where like they’re getting a couple wins here and there, but it’s not really convincing. They’re really reliant on the running game. It that to me just feels like kind of a long relief pitcher. Like, hey, can you just get us to the ninth and we’re putting you in the fifth? Like, if you give up a couple runs, whatever. We’re just trying to survive here. I and I think you know again looking at the optics of just unfortunately the media and and how everything is with the New York market there is going to be pressure on Glenn next season to turn things around to start winning games. No one’s saying 11 12 we’re not at that level yet even before free agency in the draft. Like we don’t even know exactly what’s going to happen but uh still that that’s a pretty pretty big jump. Yep. Um, so is Mario someone like just put try to put put yourself in like your future self where you look down at your film, you see breaking news. The New York Jets have signed Marcus Mariota one year, $13 million. Aaron Glenn, Darren Mushi, they they hit a press conference and they say Mariota is our guy for this season. What’s your confidence level in the season? I’m like, you better draft a young quarterback that’s got some talent because this isn’t going to inspire him. Because there’s two things. You want to see the team be competitive because it has to. And you also think about this way. Like they can they even sell tickets? Like right now the Jets aren’t marketable at all because you have nothing to buy. Like what are you buying into? They’re not winning. We talked about it. 10 straight 10 straight losing seasons. 15 years no playoffs. Okay. And now you’re going to sell. Okay. Now our quarterback next year is be Marcus Mariota the opening day. I’m like not paying for that. Like who wants to pay for that? You wouldn’t be inspired at all by that. So it’s like all right. You bet. If you do that, you better give me a quarterback in the first two rounds that’s going to give me a glimmer of hope or I’m going to have none whatsoever. Well, so here’s the problem with with, you know, drafting a quarterback in the first round and and going down that route is do you want to be in a potential Tyler Shuck situation, uh, Jimmy Clawson situation where you draft a guy and they’re not a top five pick, they’re not a top 10 pick, but they’re a high round two. you’re not gonna spend the 40th 42nd pick on, you know, quarterback. In other words, like you’re committing to the guy like that that it’s a pretty big invest. Like if you don’t go to the quarterback there, you’re probably going to get a starter. Um, you know, like are you do you feel tied in with him? You know, think about like when Hackenberg, what was he 50ome, 52, 54? Um, like the Jets for a moment were not looking at other young quarterbacks because they drafted Hackenberg. Uh, Gino Smith, same thing, right? They had Gino in um, let’s see, what was it? Uh, 2013 and then the following class was what was it? It was Bortles, Bridgewwater, Derek Carr. And they were like, “No, we don’t have any interest because we got the young guy.” And then ultimately it didn’t work out with Gino. I mean, ultimately it didn’t work out with, you know, Johnny Manzel and whatnot anyway. But, um, the point is is if you go with one early this year, I think you would take yourself out of the market in 2027. See, that’s interesting because I’m not sure. I’m I mean, I know what you’re saying, but I wouldn’t be in that case because you have three first round picks the following year. So, it’s like I would not like having two young quarterbacks wouldn’t bother me at all. Like, okay, say we take pick your whoever you want to take, you know, whoever Drew Aller, fine. whatever you take him and then next year you still have a top say you’re your 18th pick in the first round and there’s a guy that you love there take him two young quarterbacks battling it out and hopefully you get one of them works like I keep I keep throwing darts hit the bullseye man I don’t give a rat’s ass at this point the more than well well with all he’s projected to go late I’m talking like you you go quarterback at let’s call it 23 with the Colts pick okay do you drop another quarterback in the first round in 2027 See, if to me it was like if it’s that’s a tough one. That’s a tough one. Like second round I would definitely do it because then like you know it’s a it’s a you’re taking if you’re in this world scenario we have right now you have Mar Marcus Mariota as your starter. You’re taking a quarterback in the second round to kind of compete with him. Hopefully you catch something if not the following year in the first round. I take one. I wouldn’t I wouldn’t it’s to me it’s a flyer. I mean second round you still gonna have some kind of talent. You’re a project like you gota you gota hope that he’s gonna be at least serviceable to be at least a long-term backup or some you know right something. I wouldn’t have any problem taking a first round pick next year. Not at all. Yeah. I mean, three first round picks. I would I mean Yeah. For me, it’s just like I I think the answer for Muji needs to be, you know, realized pretty quick. Pretty, you know, pretty quickly. Like when the season ends, you’re going to have that first round. Uh well, at least the Jets first round pick. The Colts pick will still be kind of up in the air because the whole playoff, you know, who knows how far they’ll go. um you know, even though they kind of hit a rough patch, I still feel like Indie will make it to the you know, postseason and potentially, you know, get a win or two. Um so that pick could be anywhere from like 20 to, you know, 28 29 maybe if they win the Super Bowl. 32 at worst. So I’m going to just kind of rough ballpark say it’s 23 24 um somewhere in that range. But the main pick here is the Jets pick. And if that’s at 6, seven, 8, nine, and say Mendoza is gone, say Simpson comes out and the Jets, you know, they like him, but he’s gone. Are you going to go with QB3 at pick eight with, you know, needing an edge, needing needing a defensive tackle, needing wide receivers, a free se like all you have all these positions of need? And granted, like free agency will kind of supplement some of those positions. Um, but to me it’s just like, hey, if that quarterback that I am not in love with is not, you know, if there is no one that I love, I’m going to punt. But that I think determination needs to be unfortunately February again realized early. Yeah. in February kind of like um it kind of felt like the Giants did that to a certain degree like they really liked Cam Ward and they were trying and trying and trying to push up for Cam or you know trade up for Cam Ward and the Titans were like no like we they went like you feel like Tennessee made their decision with Ward before free agency because of the moves that they made they went all you know bringing in offensive linemen and whatnot. um very win now moves for Tennessee in in kind of setting them up to try to give the rookie quarterback help once to me at least once it kind of felt like the Giants weren’t going to land Cam uh you know land Cam Ward it was like okay just BPA we’re not going to reach on a shador we’re not going to take dart at three we’re just going to go go BPA try to figure it out later uh and not overdraft the value. But, you know, another thing to mention too is it’s November. We’re combine hasn’t happened, private workouts haven’t happened, pro days, senior bowl, like there’s going to be some draft day risers for sure. Like, even even the college playoff games, once the college playoff games play and these guys are all playing in that, too, you’re going to say, “Okay, now you’re on the big stage against a very good team. How do you perform those big moments?” Which is a deciding factor, too, depending on how much stock you put in that, which gets really, really interesting. who goes back to school which every day goes back and forth with Dante Moore going back coming out Tai Simpson now not playing his best football. So it’s so many things going into but the more we talk about all these quarterbacks it makes you think that Jets really have to have their their act together once this off seasonason starts because the quarterback position I mean they either got to be aggressive and bold or have a really good contingency plan because there’s it’s kind of slim pickings. Look at the list. Look at the guys we talked about today. Like it’s nobody’s there’s no slam dunk name you’re like that’s our guy. There’s none of that. It’s like what’s your like you’re trying to pick your poison that’s going to get you through the year or maybe find like lightning in a bottle somewhere but there’s nothing. It’s a very uninspiring list man. Yeah. And so really like in other words like if if that quarterback is not there that you like you don’t love him in 2026 and like the goal is to draft one in 2027 in like the hypothetical great quarterback class. Uh say Dante Moore does go back to school say Julian Sai decides to come out and I mean there’s a long list of other prospects but say that that is the plan. Well, you have to survive the season first. And is Carson Wentz, is Jimmy G, is Mariota going to keep you afloat for 17 games? I don’t know. Yeah. And the thing is like I don’t hate Mendoza. Yeah, I like Mendoza a lot, man. I don’t hate Mendoza, but if we’re sitting there at six or seven down there, I’m not so sure I’m ready to mortgage my draft for him because the Jets aren’t one player. He’s got to be an elite slam dunk talent. And the one thing that makes me nervous, and this is something because I just have Woody Johnson PTSD at this point, is the Jets right now are completely irrelevant. They can’t win. They can’t sell tickets and they are a complete nightmare. Woody Johnson wants to sell tickets. What sells tickets? Flashy moves. Can he hold himself back being like, you know what, let me trust football guys making football decisions. Trust their vision. Let them go through their plan. Which may not include Mendoza. Aaron Glenn may say, “You know what? I’m going to go wide receiver, my first pick. Defensive end, my second pick. We’ll get a quarterback later on. We’re building our foundation.” He’s talked about it endlessly in these press conferences where it’s like, “We’re building something here. It’s going to take time. We need the pieces.” So, if you want to hold off to 2027, will Woody Johnson even tolerate that when his team is completely unmarketable? And that’s something that maybe he will. History says he doesn’t do that. He gets impatient, especially after this year, which is completely dreadful. That’s That makes me nervous too to be honest with you. Yeah, but you you gotta imagine that Woody, I would assume, probably signed off on trading Gardner and Quinnon. Yeah. Which are everyone has his jerseys and stuff like that. And so, you know, for him to to move off of guys like that and the main return here is draft picks, which are literally in the future. I just don’t like from Woody’s perspective like if you’re okaying that if you’re greenlighting that and you’re understanding okay well these draft picks are in the future we have to see that through right but you you give them okay I I bought into these moves it makes a lot of sense quinning gone fine you know but now it’s like my return on my investments what you’re taking a crapshoot at a quarterback and I have to lose more games next year like you’ve got to have that’s kind of it kind of makes you wonder if they already have an idea of who they want based on the moves They made like, listen, we made these these crazy, you know, these bold trades with an eye towards next year we’re going to do this. Just hang on. We have an idea what we’re going to do. That’s I’m just trying to figure out who that player is because I don’t I’m not I’m not so sure it’s going to be a rookie quarterback. I just don’t think it is for some reason. Yeah, I don’t think so. I don’t think so either. I think maybe we we roll the dice on one of the later round guys. I think too. I don’t think it’s going to be in round one, man. I just don’t I don’t think so either. I don’t think the Jets are going to be trading up in this year’s draft. I mean, the Browns need a right now. They need a quarterback. It does because I like Shidor Sanders, you know, that I don’t know if Stfansky likes Shidor Sanders. Doesn’t seem like it. Uh, you know, what exactly is going to happen with the Raiders? What exactly is going to happen with the Saints? Could Pittsburgh potentially try to shoot up to the draft? Uh, unlikely, but you can definitely debate that. I don’t and you know for what it’s worth as well like there’s still six more games left. What happens like you you were talking about Trevor Lawrence before. What happens if Jacksonville just completely imp they almost lost to Arizona because of his interceptions by the way? Yep. You know what happens if they bottom out? They pull like a Pittsburgh Steelers or whatever and they just Exactly. You know miss the playoffs or something. They they go they get one one and five over the next six games. like the fans, the optics again around Lawrence might be get rid of this guy and the conversation about trade trade package could be a lot lower than what we’re talking about, right? Three first rounders, something like that. So, no, that’s and that’s exactly what I’m looking for now. It’s like I I just get this weird feeling that Aaron Glenn’s fastest way to win is going with a veteran quarterback, not like these guys are talking about, not faking, you know, Sam Howell. It’s gonna be somebody better than that. And I’m like, “All right, what teams around the league have a kind of like a tur a possible turbulent situation?” Eagles, my pipe dream. I take Jaylen Herz in a heartbeat. But Trevor Lawrence, like Liam Con like, “Listen, you know what? I’m winning in spite of this quarterback. This isn’t the guy I drafted. This isn’t the guy I wanted. I have my vision of the guy I want. I want to draft my guy.” Okay, that he could be on. Like, so that’s why I’m trying to find like quarterbacks all throughout the league. And everybody keeps telling me M. Jones, and I keep telling him I don’t think he’s gonna be available. I just don’t think it to me wouldn’t make any sense to do that. So, he’s already off my list, you know? So, it’s just I like Mac, dude. I I like Mac in theory, but I don’t think he’s available. If you’re talking about like a second rounder for Mack, like, do you know like second rounders are so valuable? You could have had him for nothing this off season. And if it only takes you what, seven, eight g I mean, how many games has M played in this season? I think seven. Yeah, something like that. It took it takes it it took Dar Muji seven games for seven games in San Francisco working with you know the weapons that they have with that coaching staff to for you to say oh I’m sold. We got to we got to move a second rounder when we maybe didn’t even have interest in the first place. I don’t know. No. And the and the one thing I didn’t mention I left him at last for a reason is Joe Burrow which is a name that everybody loves to talk about. I dude I absolutely love Joe Burrow. Love him as a player. dude can’t stay healthy. And I think he has his dream location. He has his favorite. Like he’s so close to Jamar Chase, T. Higgins. He’s from there. Like I think he’s just so unhappy there. I don’t think he wants to leave. Like I think he that’s just unless the Bengals say, you know, we’re blowing this up. We can’t win with him because, you know, he’s never healthy and we just got to go a different direction. But then that’s Zack Taylor’s job too then. Like what? Like is he willing to risk his job? Give him a chance to risk his job by getting rid of Burrow. Yeah. I mean, I think there’s just no chance with with Joe Burrow actually being traded. You know, another thing that we had that we’d have to factor in. Not only would Joe Burrow have to publicly come out and request a trade, but the Bengals would I they’re not even trading Trey Hendrickson, by the way. Um, they would have to come out and honor that, move him, and then you would assume that Burrow would probably want to sign off on the team that he’s going to. If you’re a team in the Jets, you’re you’re like that would probably have to be one of the biggest trade packages of all time. I mean, yeah, you’re literally trading for a top four quarterback in football in the middle of his career. That is going to be a massive package. And the Jets are already a bad team. So, you’re going to be trading tons. I mean, the 49ers have to give up what two to essentially three first round like uh from move. What did the 49ers give up to to go land Tre Lance to move? I think they shot up from I think 11 to three. They gave pick 11 and then two firsts for Tre Lance who’s unproven and you’re not even going to one to land Trevor, right? That’s what it cost to go to three. So if you’re talking about trading for Joe Burrow, like that is is going to be absolutely massive. And the Jets right now have a lot of needs. again, wide out, interior offensive line, uh could use linebacker depth, free safety, edge, dtackle, like there’s a lot and and I love Joe Burrow, but I just and I’m not making the point on why the Jets shouldn’t trade for him because I’m I’m if if Burrow is available, I’m doing it. But I’m saying from Burrow’s perspective, why would I want to go to the Jets if they have to blow up their already not so great situation? It’s kind of like a lateral move. Yep. Yeah. I don’t see it happen. Like it’s a name that we love talking about, but it’s just I just don’t see it happening for a variety of reasons. That’s why we don’t really talk about it anymore. It was just like, oh, it’s fun to talk about, oh, Joe Bur. I’m like, yeah, it’s just there’s so many reasons why it won’t happen. So, now we’re going back to that and it just show and the thing you like everybody’s talking about. It’s like the this end of the season could be so it’s gonna be so interesting for two levels. The pro games, it’s like, all right, let’s see how these guys are the guy like rising, you know, surprising people. Is the guy falling apart? It’s going to get cut or traded. And then with college football, it’s like, all right, you have all these guys playing. Are they going back to school? Are they gonna end the season healthy, which is important, and how do they play in these big games, too, which is there’s so many things can change over the next what, two months, which is crazy. And the Jets in a situation where they got to monitor everything because they’re in the kind of like a they’re in that they could be in no man’s land if they pick six or seven. They’re going to be kind of in that where it’s like, all right, now what the hell do we do? Especially some of these kids go back to school. Yeah, dude. I I mean bottom line is let’s just say that happens because I mean look we we I think this weekend against Atlanta is winnable. We play the Miami Dolphins. We play the Jacksonville Jaguars, the Saints, right? Um I could see the Jets going two and four over the six game stretch. Like that’s not crazy for me to I mean we’ve had multiple We’ve almost beat the Broncos. We almost beat the Steelers. We almost beat Carolina, right? All pretty good teams. Like we I mean Baltimore’s score didn’t look great, but we were at least like we showed some positives. Um the brief saw fumble that he scores a touchdown there. That game gets really interesting. Yeah. What is that? It cuts it to three, I think. Three. Yep. Um so anyway, you know, let’s just assume, okay, the Jets finish the season there. Sixth pick, right? I have no problem at all going BPA. Go a you draft Ruben Bane. You draft take your pick on whatever whoever you want. I think Peter Woods would be an awesome fit for this team. Arl Reese would be a great fit. Um, you go with another best player available approach in the second fir, you know, a second pick in the first round. You come back in round two, you do the you hit the same, you know, the same button here, BPA, BPA. You’ve added in theory four starters. The question now turns to who’s the quarterback. It cannot be Fields. It cannot be, you know, one of these older, you know, Jimmy G, one of these older guys like late30s one year. They have to actually be a an upgrade over what we currently have and b give you a fighting chance with somewhat of a glimmer of hope. So, like let’s just, you know, quickly pose this theory uh to kind of bring it back to I don’t I don’t know. We could say Mac, we can say Kyler, we can say whoever. Um, e even Kurt Cousins, I I guess if we want to throw him in there, what would you rather do? Would you rather settle for QB3, whatever that might be, up at the top of the draft, and then you have the rest of 2027 and the rest of this year’s class obviously in free agency and you just you you you tie yourself to this young quarterback or if that quarterback that you love is not there, you go you like you pull off a trade for Murray or Mack or whoever Kirk and then you say, “Okay, well, we have five first over the next two seasons, three seconds. we can really really build this thing uh build this team up. Murray I think gives you like a potential long term. Cousins I don’t think so. Mac I think gives you a longterm uh potential for a long term but uh you kind of feel like with Mack a lot of things have to be good around him. Yeah. I I mean I’m not reaching dude. I’m not I’m taking best player available. If you if you to me it’s like if you’re not getting Mendoza I’d say again it depends on who’s gonna be available too. If it’s like Dante Moore sitting there, that could be intriguing to you. But yeah, you know, like somebody like that, but I just think I don’t think he’s coming back. So, it’s like he’s going back to school. So, it’s like I don’t want to reach, dude. You need to have like you like to me, I want instant impact players in the first two picks in the first round if you’re not going to get Mendoza. That’s kind of where I’m at with this, you know? And it’s you can’t you can’t reach, dude. That’s that’s where you that’s where you get yourself in trouble. Yep. And another thing too, if you start talking about like, okay, let’s start trading like two, three, you know, to start increasing the trade package to let’s just say shoot up to one. In other words, like you’re you’re slicing into the assets of the team to go make it happen with a quarterback. Like I could respect the aggressive, you know, the the aggression to go do it, but is Mendoza really going first of all, he’d be coming in with a ton of pressure. Yes, number one pick. Yes, you’re a quarterback, but you’re going to the Jets who just mortgaged everything for you. You better work out. Yep. And then number two, we keep coming back to it. The Jets have a lot of needs. So, are we really putting Meno’s in the best situation if we’re having to trade three ones and more to go up to to spot number one? Because I I think it’s unrealistic to say, “Oh, just give him the Colts pick and call it a day. Give him the Colts pick in a second.” And the the other thing too you kind of worry about and this is where I think a veteran quarterback kind of bails you out a little bit is the inexperienced Terry Angstrand where it’s like to me I’m still we talked about this endlessly. Everybody’s probably tired of hearing me talk about it but like you’re handing this Fernando Mendoza to this this offensive coordinator who’s relatively unproven. You know the quarterback coach, not even a quarterback coach. Like you don’t get that warm and fuzzy feeling where it’s like oh you have freaking you know Andy Reid talking to him or some or Josh McDaniels. don’t have that where it’s like I feel you feel a little more confident getting a veteran quarterback that can offset the kind of inexperience like you know like just say for example Kurt Cousins I don’t want Kurt Cousins by no means but if he’s in if he’s in a meeting room they come up on offense like listen man this ain’t going to work like this scheme is not going to work we’ve got to fix this with a rookie they don’t know their ass from their elbow they’re like wow great let’s do this that’s like the the coordinator thing is kind of a little a curveball too man yeah so you know I think the hope is we at least see the offense show signs of life during the six game stretch because that I I think you can sell. Yep. You know, like like if if Tyrod does go out and perform well from like a marketing perspective, you can pitch to other quarterbacks like it was all on Justin Fields, even though I don’t think it was. Go out and say that, you know. No, you’re definitely hoping that’s the case. And that’s why I want to see him play because it’s like can they open the offense up? Can they have a passing game as opposed to the garbage we’ve seen for a good portion of the season? So, it’s going to be interesting, man. Like, with the Jets, it’s not there is no slam dunk plan right here. You just got to hope these guys have know what they’re doing, know what they’re evaluating, know what they want, and you know, because it’s it could set them back if they make a big mistake. No doubt about that. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. How the hell we talk about this for an hour and 20 minutes? What’s next week’s episode gonna be about? Oh, I got more things, dude. So, I think to be fair, I had 17 quarterbacks that I think are better than Kyler Murray. And then I have my the ones that are kind of like up in here like is Bo Knicks better than Kyler Murray? Well, I mean, if you’re ranking all 32 like because that that’s where I had Kyler. I I had him at 17. Yeah. So, that’s right where he’s like Bo Nicks, Gino Smith, Daniel Jones. Like I don’t know if I Daniel Jones is it like I don’t know if I’m really buying into him right now. He’s done some good, but like that’s Well, yeah. I mean, you could always play the game of like, okay, well, how would Daniel Jones look in Arizona? How would Kyler Murray look in Indianapolis? That’s where I was at. Like there’s like there’s like five like five or six guys that were kind of like they were all in this big group of just mud. I’m like, “All right, so I’m like in that 16 to 17 range.” But I think the the X factor for me at Murray, which makes me not want him, is just the the perception around him bothers me. I just don’t think this Glenn with that hardworking blueco collar mentality, Kyler Murray fits that. It’d be be the media would have a field day for they’d literally have a field day with him and be like, “Oh, did he go to meetings today? Did he practice? How lazy there? What time did he get here?” You could see it. Rich probably has five articles written already today. What time did Murray go to the building today? Like it’s you could just see it, man. Yeah. Yeah. That No, it it’s true. I think um unfortunately Murray, you know, he has he he just has that reputation. But but reputations can change. They can. And you’ve you’ve changed my reputation. I used to always come off as negative. Now I’m a positive guy. I’m finding answers. Finding solutions. Let’s go. You are you impressed, dude? I have a whole list here. I have a list of whole You can’t see it, but I have like a page of quarterbacks you’re going to be talking about now. Did you So, did you rank them like one, two, three, four, or just kind of jotted, you know? I just jot them down. Like I went through like all like the players I like. I’m like, “Yeah, that’s definitely better. Definitely better.” I’m like, “Oh, man. Ian’s right.” Because this guy’s kind of close and this guy’s kind of close. Like that guy like like Aaron Rogers is w like he’s all right. At this stage of his career, he’s probably better, but for the Jets, terrible. Not going to happen. He probably wouldn’t be a good fit. He’s not a long-term answer. You know what I mean? So, it’s like he’s kind of off the list. So it’s well I mean Rogers, you know, just there’s a lot of lot of screens, a lot of yards after catches in Pittsburgh, quick passing and stuff. You know, the the big numbers he’s he’s pretty good in, right? The yards, touchdowns and stuff, but if you like if you watch a Steelers game, there’s there’s a lot of quick checkowns. Just it’s not dump it off, dump it off, dump it off. Yards after catch, right? mesh, you know, quick slants, uh, pass over the middle of the field to metaf and stuff like that. Um, not overly, in my opinion, overly impressive. And it’s also you’re projecting into 2026, so Rogers could retire and and so, you know, he wouldn’t be one of the starting quarterbacks. Yeah. So now over the next six weeks I’m gonna be evaluating Malik Willis because that’s his Well, you know, we didn’t really I guess we could save this for next week, but we didn’t really talk about Davis Mills all that much. Yeah, this there’s some guys that are interesting, dude, that you got to watch as like or CJ Strad like what’s going on with CJ Strad there. Like are they are they souring on him? Like that’s a player that you know he had that he’s rookie of the year I think, right? He looked great and then he’s been getting hurt, beat up, erratic. Really interesting player there. Yeah, Straoud’s interesting. strat I would definitely definitely take. Yeah, 100%. So, we talked an hour and a half about quarterbacks on November 25th, which is just the state of the Jets right now. So, now the final question, which I have to ask you because this is what we’re here for. Your level of confidence versus the Falcons. You know, part of me feels really, really good about it, but a part of me part of me is just like, you know what, if Kirk, if we can’t get after the passer and Kirk is just standing back there and throwing like he has protection, it could be a long day. I’m, you know, I’ll call it right in the middle. I’ll say five. Yeah. How I I have a feeling the Jets win this game. I do. I just have a feeling that they’re just gonna This is all going to pay off and they’re gonna Where is the cat? He keeps looking at it. Yeah. We I actually had to bring Luna to the uh to the vet today. So, she’s sleeping somewhere. Probably mad at you. Is he all right? Yeah. So, she uh long story short, like inflamed bladder. So, having a tough time going to the bathroom and we got some uh medication for her. So, yeah, just kind of in like the wait and see mode for the next like three days. Where’s the goat? Yeah, I have a goat. You heard him? No. This is what it’s come to, man. This is what you miss. I got to ask why. How? And why did you pick that up? Actually, my girlfriend got it for you. And where did you get it? My girlfriend got it for me because she said I’m I love goats, dude. I love goats. I want a goat so bad. But if you get one, you have to get two. So my friends got a a farm that I’m literally going to try to buy a goat because I want one. I think they’re they’re just awesome animals. So then she gave me this cuz like it’s just the sound just cracks me up. You ever see them faint when they run? They faint when they get scared. They just drop like they get they just drop down. Oh, you got dude, watch coats, dude. They’re hysterical. So she gives me I have that. I have a sheep, too. Look, what is this thing? Got the Let us talk Jets farm going on. Just this is what happens when we’re a loss season like this. I got to entertain myself. Two wins. Yeah, it’ll it’ll just bring anything anything is on the table. So, thank you guys for joining us. We definitely appreciate it. Happy Thanksgiving to all of you and your families. Enjoy that time. This is, you know, great holiday times, a great time to spend time with family and friends. Don’t worry about the Jets. They’ll be there next year because they’re not here this year. Happy birthday. Happy uh Thanksgiving to you, too, man. Yeah, dude. You too. You too. Have a good night. We’ll talk to you next Tuesday on his channel where I’ll have a whole another topic to talk about. There’ll be nothing to do with this year’s team, so it’ll be exciting. [Music]

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