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Before we move on, there was not one, not two, right? Not three. Yeah. But four questionable officiating moments in that game. Three became the subject of a pool report. One, for whatever reason, was left out of the pool report. Maybe there’s just so many. There’s a chance you’re going to forget to ask about one. This is the one that wasn’t in the pool report. It was the first one on the list. There was a defensive pass interference call against the Texans. Three minutes left in the third quarter. And this is one of those where and you see from time to time when there is an uncatchable ball on a pass interference, you see the defenders get up and they do the universal sign for uncatchable. You put your hand over your head. This ball, look where it lands. Look where it hits. It’s behind the referee. Behind them. It’s past the dotted line. Yeah. Like there is no way Alec Pierce would have had to have been shot out of a cannon straight up in the air to have a chance to catch this. And look, I’m a big proponent of whoa, whoa, whoa, let’s go easy with the uncatchable because one of the reasons the guy didn’t catch it is he was restrained. These are elite athletes. He was robbed of the opportunity to make the catch. But when it is that far out of bounds, he’s not making that catch. And there was no conversation about it on the broadcast. There was none of this. The referees never it never logically went there. Did anyone see where the ball landed? As you said, the hot dog vendor had a better shot at catching the ball than Alec Pearson did. That’s where I feel like we’re the And again, this is where I go full-time refs. I don’t think we can have 345 just be the overall Wizard of Oz over the NFL. We’ll fix this and we’ll fix this. We need somebody at each stadium, somebody that owned a whole huge crew at every stadium. You know what? No, you know what I’ve been saying? I’ve been saying for years, there needs to be a member of the officiating crew who officiates the game from the booth in black and white. And I’m up here to make sure that that Oh. Oh, hey, by the way. Hey, by Hey, Bill. Uh, yeah. Check. Hey, Bill. The guy in the front row caught the ball. It was um it was uncatchable. Pick the flag up. That was uh it was bad. And I don’t know that they don’t want to give one person that much power, but I’ve said like get get a retired referee like instead of watching them scadaddle to the networks and make a lot more money than they can make officiating because the NFL’s too cheap to pay them what they’re worth. So Jean Ster goes here, Terry Macaulay goes there, Dean Blandino goes there, Mike Pereira goes there. The best brains leave. Beyond that, put that person in the booth, right, to say, “Hey, Fred. Fred, that was uncatchable.” And there’s no conversation. There’s no push back. That like the the new guru of the crew is the person in the booth and everybody knows who it is. There’s transparency. We know who it is. Oh, and maybe we hear those conversations, too. So, we aren’t wondering what the hell’s going on here. Is the fix in here? These are things. And it Look, I know the I know NFL, you’re doing really well. making a lot of money for the owners. Good job, 345. But you’re undermining the integrity of the game and you don’t even realize it. And you won’t even bother to admit it to yourself or to anyone else. You are undermining the integrity of the game by being too cheap to do the things necessary to ensure the kind of officiating excellence that will cause people like us to talk about something else on a Monday morning. And that was just the first one. That was Look, can we show it one more time, too? Just one more time because it’s 13 to six. And we got to tell people, too, they scored what? Next play. The very next play. They score the next ball, right? I mean, so and this the Houston Texans. It’s third and 19. It’s a bailout call. And also on top of that, look at the where the ball Can we freeze frame where the ball hits the referee? I would go that’s more offensive pass interference than defense. The official that threw the flag wasn’t even looking at where the ball landed. It landed closer to the dotted yellow line than the dotted white line. There is no way in hell Alec Pierce catches that ball unless he is Will Chamberlain on stilts. No, I I I don’t I don’t like the call. Look at where the ball hits. That That is about seven yards from playable. Okay. 7* 3 21 ft. I mean I mean that’s ridiculous. Also on top of that, don’t call the penalty. I’m sick of these bailouts. That’s a bailout. If you want to Alec Pierce initiated contact, that’s what Bullet I think that’s where Bullock messed up. He didn’t realize it was uncatchable because he’s like, “Wait, there’s flags?” and he gave me two stiff arms first and then I tried to kind of grab his wrist because I got stiff armed twice as I was running down the football field. That that’s another thing where the referees have lost common sense on what interference is. Look, I’m sorry. Don’t call it at all. That’s just normal bumping and grinding down the field in the NFL. If if that happened in the middle of the field and the ball landed as far away from Alec Pierce as it did, I could say, “All right, look. We’re going to air on the side of saying it was catchable because he was robbed of the chance to catch it.” fine. There’s no way he’s going to catch that ball and get two feet in bounds. Like there’s no there’s no one with an ounce of common sense can look at that and say, “Well, you know, there is a chance he could have levitated over like Lynn Swan in Super Bowl 10 and floated back and gotten his feet down like that, you know.” Um, so that was the first one. Then on the next drive, the Texans have the ball. Now, look, this is a common situation. It comes up from time to time and people lose their minds. I understand it because this is the way the league does it. It was a delay a game called 1451 left in the fourth quarter. The play clock goes to zero. There it is. One zero. And the play happens a beat after that. This was the explanation in the pool report. This is the way it works. It’s not a shot clock like basketball workers and that’s it. That’s not how it works. The mechanics are. And I know it drives some people crazy, but this is the way they do it consistently. As long as it’s consistent, I can live with it. The the official who’s responsible for it looks at the play clock when it hits zero, looks at the ball, and if the ball isn’t snapped, then the flag comes out. But if you snap the ball before the synapses fire down to the hand, then you’re okay. We don’t know, maybe that maybe that official had hand right there starting to pull it out. But that’s the way that’s that’s the way they consistently do it. You may not like it, but that’s how they do it. And I didn’t see anything there that made me say, “Oh man, that’s just way too long after.” No, I thought it was an extra a little bit of extra. I thought it was a little You get that beat. You get that. You get the beat. But I certainly was sitting there watching it live because it was a big part of the football game and I went, “Ooh.” Like I certainly should have seen them calling it and I would have had no problem. Here’s the bigger issue. That same play. Exactly. That same play, right? There’s a pass interference foul called against Kenny Moore of the Colts. And Xavier Hutchinson by all appearances fell down on his own. He just fell down. Feet feet got out from under him and he fell down on his own. Yeah. Now the explanation in the pool report was that the official who called the penalty saw an arm grab at the top of the route. Yeah. And watch. Okay. The second angle. Watch second angle. You see an arm grab. Okay. I mean right there maybe, but come on. The rule isn’t you can’t touch the guy. You can’t impede his opportunity to catch the ball. There was nothing Kenny Moore did that impeded Xavier Hudson’s opportunity to catch the ball. He didn’t interfere with it. He grabbed his arm. Yes. And maybe if the throw hadn’t been made. Now, let’s see. Where’s the ball? And you know what? The other thing that may be a little fugazi in this, it may be the ball wasn’t in the air and it may have been it may have been illegal contact or defensive holder because they said the ball was in the air. I’m not so sure the ball was in the air. But even if if the ball’s in the air, you you it’s not like, you know, the boy in the bubble, you can still touch them and it can be incidental and it can be contact that doesn’t interfere with their ability to catch bass. That was a bad bad call. That was a miss. That was a whiff. And I don’t know how you fix that because I know we tried to do replay review for Baz Interference a few years ago and it was a No, this this comes down to they need to be around football more. They need to see it more. They need to be there all the time so they have a better feel for what is and isn’t pass interference. People ask me all the time, what would we do? What would we do with full-time officials? Here’s what you would do. They would live and work out of Kansas City or Dallas, some central location that would make it easier to travel to wherever the games are. And every Tuesday and Wednesday, they would be in a meeting room all day long, all members, all officials, 120, 150, whatever they are, and they would go over play after play after play after play. And there would be the messages sent. And it’s like any business does that. Here’s how we do things. Here’s how we officiate this play. Here’s how we officiate that play. Here’s how we officiate that play. Here’s how. Here’s Oh, pay. Hey, you know, just just a reminder. Hey folks, just a reminder here. Uh after a touchdown, if there’s a penalty before the ball is put ready for play for the try, it doesn’t get enforced on the kickoff. It gets enforced on the try. just so we’re clear on that because you know uh Fred had a little issue there in Pittsburgh and I it’s it’s not that complicated to come up with a way but but it takes it takes paper money. It takes the kind of stuff that Chris carries around with a rubber band. Not a not a not a money clip. That’s right. I meant to bust you last week about it. You got to have the money clip. And they don’t want to spend they want to keep the money in the money clip. So two more. I got too much money. So the clip don’t fit. I’m rubber band man. You still You know what you do? I have gotten to the point where and I I got to show you this. This is my dad’s my dad’s money. Sanita Park there. It can only hold so much. And the other problem is the other problem is it takes a minimum amount. It gets down to the point where the money just falls out. So the it’s my dad telling me to go get more. And I got away from it. And that’s where I got into taking my wife or my daughter’s hair bands and I do it. And I saw it I saw it last week. I saw it last week over on the table and it’s and he’s got the he’s got Yeah, that’s uh classy for someone who is so freaking bougie about so many things. He’s got his his cheap ass grabbed it out of the bowl in the bathroom and wrapped it around his mouth. Exactly. All right. Uh, two more real quick. No, one more. One more. One more. Uh, extra point touchdown scored on that same drive put the Texans up 19-13. And the Kimmy Farbear extra point looked to be not good. Now, here’s the problem. I want to be fair with the league here. You don’t get a clear angle, but the ball has to pass what? Inside the inner edge or the outer edge? Inside the inner edge. It’s got to be completely inside, right? that you can’t there’s no accounting for a possible doink. Right. The problem is it went over the top and replay review is only available if it is in the U. Yeah. If it goes over the top, there’s no replay review. And there’s really no way No, it’s too hard to tell whether or not the ball passed within Yeah. or or over or on the outside once it goes over the top. And there’s there’s two solutions. One, make them higher. Yeah. Two, put a camera on top of it. You just get a flat camera, right? They It can’t be that expensive. Put a GoPro on top of it. Put Put Just put a flat camera on top of it. They need a cherry picker to get it up there. And you know, you need to be proper safety, but you put a flat camera with a broad lens. I mean, we all have them. We all got the freaking ring cameras. This is not an expensive technology. It I asked somebody yesterday, “How hard would it be?” Well, it can’t be much harder than putting them in the pylons. put at the top of the goalpost so when the ball comes over you can see yeah did it go inside did it go over the top did it go outside and we’ll know right either we give a about getting this stuff right or we don’t it’s that simple and all it takes is a little creativity and not much because I thought of it we thought of it we were talking about it yesterday I’ve said they can do if they don’t want to extend the goalpost because there is a point where it becomes like physically little you could just shoot a beam straight up that will show you, you know. Oh, yeah. Some sort of So it like a hologram, like something that shoots a beam straight up. Yeah. And you you don’t have to have it on all the time. You don’t have to have it on all the time. Just turn it on. Somebody flips the switch when it’s time to do the field goal and the extra point and we see whether or not it it passed or didn’t. And then you can use replay review. It’s really not that complicated. It’s something they got to remedy. I’m not going to sit there and and get all over that one, but yeah, they they need I mean, at some point we’re going to be in a big playoff game, Super Bowl. We need we need to know. We’ve seen the shots the pylon camera will give us. That’s the simplest one. You put a flat camera with a broad radius and they’d be able to figure out whether or not the ball went went where it needs to go. Hi, it’s Mike Florio. Thanks for watching PFT on YouTube. Hit subscribe for the latest news and analysis from Pro Football

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43 comments
  1. The reason the first one was probably left out is because it doesn’t fit the “motto” or “point” that the article is trying to make, and I reckon they were probably siding with indy too. Same thing happens in the nba especially to teams like okc, because people only notice the ones that they want to notice.

  2. It's not just this game. the officiating has really gotten bad in recent years. There needs to be accountability. Pass Interference is such a huge game changing call it needs to be policed better. My solution……every PI flag thrown in every game every week gets packaged into a compilation video and send to all 32 franchise owners to vote if the flag was legit or not. If 2/3rds of owners say it was not the correct call, that ref gets a strike. 3 strikes, the ref is fired! Also, every head coach is allowed to submit a max but not obligated to submit anything of any play they would like to be voted on. This helps to eliminate the no calls. These refs need to be accountable. Who would not want to make $200K to referee a game? There should be no shortage of refs.

  3. 2 weeks in a row, colts allow zero sacks, win the turn over battle, and commit zero turnovers. AND STILL FUCKING LOSE THE GAAMES? bet no one can show any other team to do that zero turn over get the turnovers and zero sacks 2 games in a row and lose both

  4. At this point I think it is beyond mere cheapness on the NFL's part. I think we have gotten to the point where they are just being stubborn. If they make big changes, like full-time refs, they will be admitting that they've had a problem for a while now. So, instead, they bury their heads in the sand, make minor tweaks, and keep raking in money. They don't care about the game, just the bottom line. So in their minds, why admit a problem and spend money to fix it when denying works just as well without affecting their bottom line. That is the world we live in now, whether it is corporations or politics.

  5. Shouldn't matter if a ball is catchable or not. If it is not catchable then why is the defender committing a penalty? Defender should realize it is not catchable and let up.

  6. they dont RIG the games, they NUDGE the games. the nfl knows who the teams that make them the most money, and the refs knows what the nfl wants. no one has to tell anybody anything.

  7. Sorry guys, you missed on the last one. On a kick, the ball has to pass inside the outer edge of the post. By rule, if the ball passes over the post it’s good, even if it would have hit the post. So yes, they do account for a doink and assume it’s good.

  8. By far, Sundays worse crew on the field was this game.. they need to start fining refs.. take away money, then it would be pretty clear.. there would be no favorites

  9. Not just a camera on the top of the posts. Shoot the beam in IR with the camera and then you can see if the beam hits the ball. They could also make the beam a measuring device getting the distance to what broke the beam. Like what is on a garage door sensor but slightly more complex.

  10. Wait, if you put a camera at the very top of a goal post, all you would see is a ball fly through the frame. You have no reference to its position to the goal post so that still doesn't work unless you do some kind of virtual reality showing a virtual post.

    The light beams are an interesting thought but how effective would they be in outdoor stadiums during the day? What if a bird or some other object flys through the beam.

  11. The Colts got 1000000% F'd over and you can twist it and talk through all the nuances etc etc, but at the end of the day, the Texans got about 4 questionable calls and 3 TERRIBLE beyond belief calls… in OUR HOUSE, sad and pathetic refing. The NFL should be ashamed of themselves, this is every dang week with this BS.

  12. You sdhouldnt get to commit a penalty because the ball couldnt be caught. Its like running a red light when theres no other car on the road. Its still a penalty, its still a ticket

  13. The NFL won’t hire the Refs full time in the same way McDonalds won’t hire most of their servers full time. They know these temporary employees are building the experience to find a different opportunity to work for someone else that offers better pay. In the case of the Refs, the Media is that someone.

  14. Why do we still have referees at all? Cameras cover every inch of the field. Cameras see everything.
    And if NFL wanted to make kicks fair, they could put laser pointers on top of the goal posts. It's not about fairness. It's about tv ratings.

  15. Camera doesn't need to be on top. inside the bar just inside the pole pointing straight up would be enough. If you are going to be that precise rather than relying on judgment, probably best to make the rule that the center of the ball has to go inside the line. While the TV angle was not that useful to call it good or bad — an overhead camera also could have made it much clearer, but that's harder to ensure uniform positioning across the league.

  16. The refs were also horrible last night. Maybe the sports books can be a good thing (for once) and put pressure on the NFL to do something.

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