Per Mike Jiménez, Jeremy Sochan is the Spurs’ lowest ranked player on offense and defense.

Is Jeremy still shaking off the rust, or is he suddenly a poor fit for our current roster?

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  1. Jeremy is playing out of position at the 5 on defense and has played with Wemby (who obviously makes everyone better) very little. He didn’t just suddenly become a bad defender.

  2. I’m rooting for him but it’s hard to see a future with the team if he keeps playing like this. I really wish he can prove me wrong. 

  3. Yep, I understand it is annoying to play out of position so much, but I don’t understand why he isn’t even trying to shoot when he’s wide open anymore. I have been believing in Sochan a lot, and still hope he turns it around, but this is looking very bad right now…

  4. individual offense and defensive rating #hellnah. well its obvious his defense hasnt been up to par, using these stats are a awful basis lmfao

  5. Offensively he’s a bit on again/off again, but he fights for solid position and I’ve yet to see him really struggle defensively. He frequently subs for Wemby, or at least comes in when Wemby isn’t on the court, so he gets no boost with Wemby minutes. He always takes the hardest assignments on defense, and regularly causes missed shots, turnovers, and bad passes for the opposing team. None of those things will show up in the stats (arguably they might show up in defensive rating, but they are invisible when you’re playing second string without Wemby/Castle/etc.).

    Sochan is an elite defender still playing limited minutes (for whatever reason), and this rating system is honestly a bit unfair to him.

    That’s my take anyway. I’m a Sochan lifer though, so… I’m probably blind to a lot.

  6. He’s a good player, I find it odd how drastically different Mitch seems to value Jeremy compared to Pop

    That said, Jeremy hasn’t really gotten to play his ideal role since his rookie year

  7. It’s not just that he’s playing out of position, Barnes does ok as center in spurts and even Keldon has had good moments when he has to. It’s that Jeremy’s confidence is shot and honestly I think he just needs a change of scenery. Once 1/15 hits and more players can be traded I could see him going somewhere.

  8. I like Sochan, i think hes a Spurs through and through but I dont see giving him a big pay raise is the wise thing to do given what we’ve seen. If they can work out a lower contract with less years like a prove contract, even better. Everyone keeps saying hes playing out of position but the issue he has no set position, hes a hybrid. Works great on defense but hes borderline unplayable on offense. He doesn’t space the floor which clogs the offense, hes supper hesitant on all his drives and hes just not a good finisher. If he was a couple inches taller he’d be a perfect back up big but hes not. He is who he is. I like that Mitch is seeing his limits and not forcing his playing time. I see so much more potential in Bryant for Sochans position. He’s a very good defender, his shot is mechanically great and his misses are so close and hes aggressive with his drives.

  9. It’s early in the season, he’s coming back from injury, the team has been in flux, he’s not found a comfortable role in the current rotation.

    The numbers (and the eye test) are not great. But any sort of value judgment before the team gets healthy and rotations get cleaned up is likely premature.

  10. Low key we’re just trying to reduce his value for the follow-on contract we eventually sign him to and then start playing him in his proper position after signing.

  11. I still believe that Jeremy has a place in the league, but sadly that may not be with the Spurs. The coaches don’t seem interested in him anymore, so I hope he goes and shows out somewhere else at this point, where they play him to his strengths. I want him to have a resurgence like Mamu in Toronto, who’s balling out, defensive lapses and all.

  12. He plays great on-ball defense and can switch 1-5, making him very versatile. His coordination and help defense are only average. Rebounding wise he’s decent. Not much of a shot blocker but can sometimes surprise his opponent. While there’s a grain of truth in the fairly slanted aggregate stats, he’s not as bad as they make him seem.

  13. Well, if coaches refuse to use players according to their skills, stats will plummet with most players. I’m not sure, maybe he ate Mitch’s cereal, but he did not get a real chance this year.

  14. This sub is getting closer and closer to the last stage of grief when it comes to Sochan’s role and future on this team.

    On the bright side he is playing this bad in his contract year, maybe the ultimate team player move to retain him for cheap

    In the last 2 years we have had 3 draft picks that essentially make his hybid playstyle obsolete. If he can’t knock down an open 3 or 2 he has no place on this team.

  15. I like Sochan and I’m gonna miss him when he’s off this team cause sadly I don’t see a future with him here anymore.

  16. He isn’t a good fit for what the Spurs need now. They need spacing and he just doesn’t provide that. They should just let him go.

  17. He’s playing spot mins and mostly out of position. Of course the stats are skewed.

  18. This is a weird stat that is easily skewed by others on the floor. For example, Keldon has been one of our best offensive player yet his offensive rating is low. He’s been bad on defense and still his defensive rating is high.

    Sochan will be fine. He just needs to keep shooting on offense and not turn down open shots.

  19. It’s almost 2026 and people are still pushing the “he’s out of position” cope?

    Wasn’t this the same guy who was lauded for his versatility? Didn’t y’all say he was gonna be the next Draymond?

    Supposedly this Swiss Army knife wing yet it’s been excuses after excuses as to why he hasn’t been good in any role the Spurs have tried to give him.

  20. He’s on a rebuilding team playing out of position in a role he’s not physically ready for. He’s also just playing poorly, maybe the pressure has gotten to him.

    Despite that I fully believe he’s key to the Spurs’ future. Sochan is still arguably the number 1 Luka counter & will grow into the small ball 5 role over time, there are maybe a handful of players that are capable of this in ghe NBA, extremely rare.

    If you can’t guard Luka, you can’t beat him. You can be full of good defenders like MIN but if you don’t have the right counters, like MIN, you will fail.

    It’d be unwise to give up on him. Hope spurs fans treat him well, he will be 100% worth it, looking like he won’t get a lot of $ either.

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