Can Mike Tomlin right the ship with the Pittsburgh Steelers? | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC

AWKWARD OR UGLY ON THE WAY OUT. JUST LET HIM GO WHEREVER HE WANTS TO GO. HERE’S A HERE’S SOME TOMLIN FROM YESTERDAY ON THE THE THE DISCONTENT THAT THE FANS DEMONSTRATED VERY LOUDLY ON SUNDAY, BOTH WITH THE FIRE TOMLIN CHANT AND BOOING DURING RENEGADE, HERE’S TOMLIN ON THAT POINT. LIKE YOU TALKED A LOT ABOUT FRUSTRATION AND YOU HAVE SAID, YOU UNDERSTAND THE FANS FRUSTRATION? WHAT IS IT LIKE FOR YOU, PERSONALLY, WHEN THEY’RE CALLING FOR YOU TO GO IN GENERAL, I AGREE WITH THEM. UM, FROM THIS PERSPECTIVE, UM FOOTBALL IS OUR GAME. WE’RE IN THE SPORT ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS. AND SO UM, IF YOU ROOT FOR THE STEELERS, ENTERTAINING THEM IS WINNING. AND SO, WHEN YOU’RE NOT WINNING IS NOT ENTERTAINING, AND IF YOU’VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? AND SO I RESPECT IT, UM, I SHARE FRUSTRATIONS, UM, I UNDERSTAND WHAT MAKES THIS THING GO AND WINNING IS WHAT MAKES THIS THING GO. HE’S GOT TO SEE. THIS IS A PRODUCT OF DOING SOMETHING FOR A REALLY LONG TIME. YOU UNDERSTAND HOW OUT. WORKS? THEY’RE UPSET WHEN THEY’RE NOT ENTERTAINED, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? WE’LL GET ANOTHER CHANCE TO GOT ANOTHER CHANCE YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THIS HIM NEXT WEEK. WE GOT ANOTHER SHOWING UP SOMEBODY SAID TO ME ONCE, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN A SPORTING EVENT AND A CONCERT, YEAH, I’D RATHER GO TO THE CONCERT BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO TO THE CONCERT, THE CHANCES YOU’RE GOING TO LEAVE PISSED OFF ARE VERY SLIM, RIGHT? RIGHT, YOU GO TO A SPORTING EVENT, IT’S 50/50. THAT’S WHAT MAKES ALL 50. YOU’RE EITHER GOING TO BE WELL WHEN YOU WIN, WHEN YOU WIN, WHEN YOU’RE ENTERTAINED, ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED? NO, I’M NOT YOU SUCK. SO YEAH, THAT THAT THAT’S THE PROBLEM. AND IT’S AWESOME. IF YOU’RE GETTING YOUR SHARE OF VICTORY BECAUSE IT’S A FULL DAY EXPERIENCE, YOU GO OUT AND YOU TAILGATE AND IT’S EXPENSIVE AS HELL. I I, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER GOING TO STEELERS GAMES AND LOOK, I KNEW HOW MUCH THE TICKETS COST AND LIKE THIS IS A LOT TO DIP INTO, SOMEONE’S BUDGET TO GET 2, 4 TICKETS TO COME TO THESE GAMES AND ALL THE OTHER EXPENSES THAT GO ALONG WITH IT. IT’S A MAJOR FINANCIAL COMMITMENT. IT’S A MAJOR PART OF YOUR LIFE. AND AND YEAH, THE FANS ARE UPSET WHEN THEY’RE NOT ENTERTAINED. AT SOME POINT, THEY GOT TO BE ENTERTAINED. OR AT SOME POINT THEY’RE GOING TO ENTERTAIN THE NOTION OF EITHER NOT SHOWING UP OR BEING SO LOUD AND SO ANNOYING THAT ART ROONEY II HEARS IT AND DOES SOMETHING ABOUT IT. YEAH, I I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT, WELL, WELL AGREED THERE AND THEN I THINK ON TOP OF IT TOO WITH YOU KNOW MIKE TOMLIN AND WATCHING THAT LITTLE CLIP THERE YOU KNOW YOU GOT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT LIKE AGAIN. I KNOW I USE THE WORD PSYCHO AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I’M USING THAT IN AN ENDEARING WAY AND AND TRYING TO COMPLIMENT BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT THE GOOD COACHES ARE. THEY’RE, THEY’RE PSYCHOS DAN CAMPBELL BEN JOHNSON, SHANAHAN, MCVAY, BALLOT, CHECK THE PSYCHOS, YOU KNOW? BUT THEY’RE OBSESSIVE PSYCHOS, THAT ARE GREAT AT COACHING. THEY’RE ALSO USUALLY DELUSIONAL AND, AND I DON’T MIKE TOMLIN’S DELUSIONAL AS WELL, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, AT LEAST FROM MY STANDPOINT, BUT IN HIS STAND, AND IN HIS IN HIS SHOES, AND IF YOU WERE WITH WITH HIM ON A DAILY BASIS, HE STILL THINKS HE CAN COACH THEM OUT OF THIS. HE STILL THINKS, WAIT, WE CAN FIGURE THIS OUT AND BECOME A PLAYER, RIGHT? THAT THAT’S WHERE I KNOW, AND I THINK THAT’S SOMETIMES WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT IT AND GO MAN, IT’S NOT BOTHERING THEM. BUT I THINK THERE’S ALSO A CON A COCKINESS AND A CONFIDENCE IN THEM TO GO. WAIT, I I’M STILL FIGHTING HERE AND WE’RE I’M NOT WAVING THE WHITE FLAG OR THROWING IN THE TOWEL YET OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT YOU KNOW WE STILL BELIEVE WE CAN FIX THIS AND OF COURSE THE FACT THAT THEY’RE PLAYING THE STILL THERE. I THINK CAN LEAD TO THOSE TYPE OF THOUGHTS, RIGHT? WE’RE SITTING HERE GOING MAN, THEY LOOK LIKE CRAP THEY DON’T LOOK GOOD. I DON’T KNOW WHAT THE HELL THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT OR WHAT HE’S THINKING THERE, BUT THAT’S JUST NOT THE FEELING INSIDE OF A FOOTBALL BUILDING. ESPECIALLY A PLACE LIKE PITTSBURGH WITH GUYS LIKE AARON RODGERS, AND TJ WATT, AND CAM HEYWARD WHO ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO. HEY LET’S KEEP PUSHING. HEY, WE CAN STILL BE BETTER AND ALL THAT AND I THINK THAT’S WHERE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT MIGHT COME OFF LOOKING LIKE HE’S CONTENT AS WELL. HERE’S A LITTLE MIKE TOMLIN FROM YESTERDAY HIS WEEKLY TUESDAY PRESS CONFERENCE ON WHY HE HAS CONFIDENCE. THE AROUND. WHAT WE DO, UM, IS NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU GUYS DO. YOU GUYS MIGHT WRITE A BAD ARTICLE OR A COUPLE OF BAD ARTICLES. DOES IT LESSEN YOUR CONFIDENCE IN YOUR ABILITY TO WRITE ARTICLES THE NEXT TIME? I IMAGINE IT DOESN’T BECAUSE YOU’VE BEEN DOING IT ALL YOUR ADULT LIVES AND IT’S THE SAME FOR US AS INDIVIDUALS OR COLLECTIVE IN THIS BUSINESS. UH, CERTAINLY, OUR LAST PERFORMANCE WASN’T UP TO SNUFF, BUT I DON’T KNOW THAT A LESSONS I BELIEVE IN SELF OR OUR OUR ABILITY TO DELIVER INDIVIDUALLY FORWARD. IDENTITY AS A TEAM. YEAH YES, 6 AND 6 AND I DON’T LIKE IT. GOOD METAPHOR. BUT BUT YEAH, YEAH, THAT’S WHERE I THINK HE’S AT I I LOOK I I DON’T LIKE THE METAPHOR THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU’VE WRITTEN SOME BAD ARTICLES LIKE BECAUSE IT’S NOT THE SAME THING, THEY DON’T HAVE AN OBJECTIVE SCORING SYSTEM FOR QUALITY OF ARTICLES AND EVERYONE KNOWS AND CARES IN MILLIONS, PAY ATTENTION TO WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, YOU’RE TYPING A GOOD ARTICLE. THERE’S SO MUCH MORE FOCUS AND ATTENTION AND SCRUTINY. THAT IS GIVEN TO THE OUTCOME OF A FOOTBALL GAME, AND THERE’S SO MUCH LESS ABOUT THE OUTCOME. THAT THE HEAD COACH CAN CONTROL THE END RESULT. GUSTA WIND WEIRD, BOUNCE TO THE BALL. SOME FLUKE THING HAPPENS. AND YEAH, WHEN WHEN WE’RE RIDING ARTICLES, WE’RE NOT LIKE COMPETING, THERE ISN’T SOMEBODY. THAT’S HITTING OUR KEYS AND TRYING TO KEEP US FROM DOING WHAT WE’RE TRYING TO DO. LIKE FOOTBALL IS A VERY DIFFERENT THING ALTOGETHER. SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS OFF A LITTLE BIT AND YEAH, THERE’S 6 AND 6. THERE WAS ANOTHER WHERE HE HE KIND OF DEFENDED WHERE THEY ARE BY SAYING WE’VE WON 6 GAMES. THE PROBLEM IS THE TREND ISN’T POSITIVE RIGHT NOW, NOT GOOD, RIGHT? THEY’RE THEY’RE 2 AND 5. SINCE THEY WERE 4 AND 1 AND THEY HAVEN’T BEEN IMPRESSIVE IN RECENT WEEKS. THE COLTS GAME IS THE ONLY THING THAT STANDS OUT AS ALL RIGHT. THERE YOU GO. THAT’S THE STEELERS TEAM. WE’RE USED TO. THEY HAVEN’T BEEN ABLE TO KEEP THAT GOING, THEY HAVEN’T BEEN ABLE TO PULL THAT THREAD. AND HERE THEY ARE GETTING READY TO GO FACE, THE RAVENS. I MEAN, THIS IS JUST A WEIRD WEEK FOR THEM TO BE DEALING WITH WHATEVER THEY’RE DEALING WITH. AND I I FEEL LIKE LIKE WHEN YOU WATCH THE HALF OUR PRESS CONFERENCE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, BUT YOU DON’T GET THE SENSE. THE HOUSE IS ON FIRE BASED UPON THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED AND THE WAY TOMLIN ANSWERED THEM. THAT’S WHAT I SEEM BOTHERED. THE PRESS CORP DOESN’T SEEM BOTHERED. THEY DON’T SEEM ANYTHING’S OUT OF THE ORDINARY. LIKE ALL IS CALM. ALL IS WELL, EVERYTHING’S FINE. LET’S GO PLAY. THE RAVENS AND I GUESS IT’S IMPORTANT TO NOT GET TOO FREAKED OUT. I JUST FEEL LIKE THE PEOPLE I KNOW WHO ARE STEELERS FANS. THERE’S A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THAT SCENE AND HOW THEY FEEL. YEAH. AND THE ROTHER COMMENTS ARE KIND OF THE BRIDGE THAT THAT SHOWS. THEY, SEEM CALM, BUT THEY SHOULDN’T BE, NO, NO. I, I, I I, I HEAR THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK A LITTLE BIT 1 IS, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, THIS HAS BEEN A PRETTY COMMON OCCURRENCE, THE LAST 2 YEARS, 6 AND 6, 6 AND 5 RIGHT IN THIS RANGE. SO, YOU KNOW, IS THERE SOME NUMBNESS TO THAT IS FROM THE, THE MEDIA AND THE ONES THAT COVER THE TEAM MAYBE. AND, OF COURSE, WHEN YOU’RE WITH THE COACH AND AN ORGANIZATION AND THOSE AND IT’S 19 YEARS TOGETHER. YEAH. IT’S A LITTLE COZY THERE. IT’S WHAT TO EXPECT. WE KNOW WHAT TO ASK, WHEN NOT TO ASK AND ALL OF THAT AND WE DON’T RUFFLE FEATHERS AND A LOT OF THAT GOES ON, FOR SURE. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND HIS METAPHOR AND WHAT HE’S TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW? HE’S JUST TRYING TO SAY, HEY, WHEN YOU’RE REALLY GOOD AT SOMETHING AND YOU HAVE A BAD 1 OR 2 THINGS AT IT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON’T JUST GO. OH MAN, I’M NOT GOOD ANYMORE, RIGHT? YOU CONTINUE TO FIGHT AND TRY TO GET BETTER AND YOU HAVE A BELIEF IN YOURSELF, AND I THINK THAT’S WHERE THEY’RE AT AS A FOOTBALL TEAM. I STILL THINK HE’S A DAMN GOOD COACH. I DO HAS THERE BEEN SOME MISTAKES THAT HAVE GONE ALONG ALONG THE WAY? SURE, THEY’VE YOU KNOW, THE THE ONES THAT COVER THE TEAM, A VALUATED PLAYERS, YOU KNOW, UH, ERA. DRAGGED ON A LITTLE, AT THE END, WHICH I THINK HURT THE FOOTBALL TEAM A LITTLE BIT. SO, THERE’S THAT, THAT ISSUE AS WELL, RIGHT? AND YEAH, THERE’S BEEN SOME OTHER THINGS TOO WHERE THEY’VE MISSED ON, DRAFT QUITE WORKED OUT THE WAY THEY WANT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, RIGHT? I STILL THINK WE’RE TALKING ABOUT A REALLY GOOD COACH. THERE’S STILL A YEAR, A LOT OF YEARS HERE. AND, AND AND WE GOT TO WIPE OUT RECENT MEMORY OF RIGHT NOW. OF YEARS WHERE WE WENT, MAN, THEY’RE GOING TO GO TO THE PLAYOFFS. HOW ARE THEY GOING TO THE PLAYOFFS AND MY YEARLY RAN UP? I DON’T PLAYOFFS BECAUSE THEY’RE GOING TO RUIN THE PLAYOFFS AND THEY’RE GOING TO BE A BORING WATCH OR THEY MIGHT PULL SOME STEELERS BULSHIT UPSET WHERE THEY GET A STRIP SACK AND BLOCK A PUN. ALL RIGHT, AND NOW THEY’RE IN THE DIVISIONAL, PLAYOFF GAME, AND YOU’RE GOING, OH NO, AND THEY’RE GOING TO GET BLOWN OUT AND THAT TO ME IS COACHING HE’S COACHED SOME TEAMS THAT I GO. YEAH, I’M NOT REALLY SURE THEIR PLAYOFF FOOTBALL TEAMS BUT HE’S GOTTEN THEM THERE WITH LESS THAN QUARTERBACKS NOT GREAT TALENT, NOT GREAT OFFENSIVE LINE PLAY AND ALL OF THAT. AND I STILL THINK HE’S 1 OF THE FEW COACHES IN FOOTBALL THAT ACTUALLY KNOWS HOW TO MANAGE A GAME STILL. THAT’S THE OTHER ASPECT. YEAH, TO GO TO THE PLAYOFFS WITH SOME OF THE CRAPPY ASS QUARTERBACK PLAY. HE’S HAD OVER THE LAST 5, 6 YEARS. I MEAN, THAT THAT, THAT’S BECAUSE THEY MANAGE GAMES AND THEY WERE COACHED TOUGH AND THEY DID THAT. THERE’S NO MANAGING OF GAMES ANYMORE. NOBODY DOES THAT AS A COACH GO FOR IT. THAT THAT’S NOT MANAGING OF A GAME. GO FOR IT. GO FOR IT. GO FOR IT. GO. THAT’S, THAT’S JUST THAT’S JUST, YOU’RE JUST SITTING THERE WITH A MICROPHONE CALLING PLAYS, YOU’RE NOT, GAME MANAGERS. THERE’S ONLY A FEW OF THEM LEFT IN THE LEAGUE VRABEL’S, 1 TOMLIN’S 1, THERE’S A FEW OTHER RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEADS, RIGHT? BUT YEAH, SO THAT’S WHERE I STILL BELIEVE IN THE GUY, BUT IT DOES FEEL LIKE YES, WE MIGHT BE COMING TO THE END OF THE ROAD HERE. AND I THAT METAPHOR STILL BOTHERS ME. I’LL GIVE WORK. IF YOU’RE A SURGEON AND 6 OF YOUR PATIENTS LIVED IN PROBABLY GOING TO STOP. YOU’RE PROBABLY GOING TO STOP PERFORMING SERVICE. WELL, YOU’RE TAKING A LITTLE STREAM. LIKE HOW ABOUT HE DOES SURGERY AND 1’S AWESOME. AND THE OTHER 1’S LIKE OH, I COULD HAVE TIED. THIS LIGAMENT A HAIR TIGHTER AND THE GUY’S STILL ALIVE, YOU KNOW, TO BE SO EXTREME THERE, MR. DR. DOOM, I’M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF A FOR AND IN THE PROCESS OF

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28 comments
  1. Entertaining them is winning? What a condescending arrogant statement. No Mike all that we want to see is a well prepared competitive team. One that doesn't embarrass us and make us feel stupid for purchasing a $270 ticket, $100 in food and wasting 4 hours watching a cringe performance.

  2. Tomlin isn’t the problem. O-line has to be developed. It hasn’t. It’s an organization that is average, not excellent.

    He will be hired elsewhere and will succeed. If you did that to anyone else in the Steeler organization, bet that’s not the case.

  3. If he winning division by sunday then sports talk gone forget all they said. Sportstalk is losing its integrity cause everybody obsessed wit clicks.

  4. I think the Dolphins will be a challenge, if the Ravens game is competitive or they win, you can say the Ravens will have a hard time facing the Jags in the playoffs. I think the teams talent and age have degraded since he was winning with Pickett. Because they need a QB it probably will be 3 years to get back to the playoffs, if you continue to make the playoffs with old guys you are not rebuilding.

  5. Listen. This isn't Gladiator. This isn't about entertainment. Tomlin boiling this down to being "entertainment" is insulting. This is about a body of evidence that has been collected over the last 10-15 years. When the talent was there with the Killer B's it was the inability to rise to the occasion of the big game against some one like Belichick. Now we've been stuck in mediocrity for the last 5 years and still aren't able to show up for the games we need to show up for. What good is making the playoffs if you're going to be slaughtered when you get there. Same song the last 5 years.

  6. No he can't. He has underperformed, He has had a merry-go-round of asst. coaches, but he is never accountable. He's not a good game day coach. Horrible clock management. He may be a good assistant coach, but not the main guy. The Rooneys did this to themselves being the first diversity first organization. They've been satisfied with mediocrity for 10+ years and it has killed the team's future. It will be a long road to haul to get back to a championship caliber team.

  7. Steelers are afraid of losing the stability Tomlin brings, simple as that. The Steelers are not supposed to be a bad football team, and under Tomlin.. they’re not bad. Not good either, but not bad. So he stays!

  8. I have been alive to see noll and cowher go through there ups and downs to the finish line. I will give tomlin the same respect. Social media era is tuff for any coach. Period.

  9. Rooney is not gonna fire or trade Tomlin after this season because then he would still have to pay him his huge salary for 2 more years, thru 2027 season. Rooney is a business man, he is not gonna lose that much money just to take a chance on a new HC. Unfortunately we are stuck with Tomlin for at least one more year 😡

  10. Most of the time F and S get the gist, but today's "I am holier than thou" take is a little disingenuous. NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE, is more aware of what needs to change than Tomlin does. A song once noted, "Breaking Up is Hard to Do!"

  11. What gets me most about Tomlin is the whole "I'm just a working stif like you guys" schtick. He's a very pampered man who lives a very luxurious life who is paid extremely well to be mediocre in his job. He's so out of touch he thinks the people who spend money they don't have to continue to enrich him are upset for not being "entertained" by his mediocrity.

  12. The Steelers' biggest challenge is whether or not to use the word "Rebuild". On top of the issue, you have the fact that Colbert left the cupboard bare. Steeler fans are becoming classless. Go Steelers!!!!

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