New York Jets Draft Rumor! Interested in Trading Up, Dante Moore Leaning Towards Coming Out

New York Jets Draft Rumor! Interested in Trading Up, Dante Moore Leaning Towards Coming Out

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] [Music] Hello and welcome into another episode of Reality Check here on the channel. What is going on? I am Matt Ori. I’m joined as always by my good friend Jeremy Jets Chaos. Jeremy, how goes it, my friend? It goes. It goes. Here we are, man. another week removed from your wedding. It still feels like so surreal. But uh uh yeah, no, things are good, man. Halloween uh Thanksgiving gone, Halloween gone. Now it’s the big ones coming up, the big boys. And uh we got a couple of real weeks and then it’s time for the uh you know, the craziness to start. Absolutely. So, a few more weeks of that. Uh haven’t spoken since uh the most recent Jets win. So, kind of wanted to get your thoughts on that quickly before we hit on some of our big talking points of the week. Sounds good. Yeah. So, 2724 win, long field goal at the the end. I was expecting you to come in with a take on on the game. I didn’t know you need me to see you up again. Take uh you know, it was interesting. You know, I’m so torn and conflicted at this point of a season. you know, um it was like I can’t root against the team because when I’m watching the team, I want to see them do well because I want to see some of these guys are going to be around obviously and part of the future and any chance we ever have of ending this nightmare, right? So, you want to see some good players like, oh, these guys are going to be part of the Jets and if we have a chance maybe and I mean, I’d rather have eight good players on the roster than zero going into next year, you know, in all these draft picks. Um, but then when they actually win, it’s like it this it’s not obviously it’s there’s like this torn, okay, how how many spots in the draft did we just fall back? And I know there are most people are on one side very extreme or the other. You know, you’re not a fan if you’re rooting to lose. We should try to win every game and every game is critically important to win and very very impactful to the future. And then you have the other extreme saying there’s absolutely no value to winning. Zero. It’s only bad. And the only thing that matters is getting the highest draft pick. Well, I I’m sorry to disappoint the world, but I am just not on either extreme. I’m torn. I’m a conflicted fan. Yeah, I think you can make a strong case for either one of those sides. And kind of my reaction to the Jets win is we want to see the coaching staff improve and we want to see this team improve as the year goes on. And I don’t think it’s, you know, as easy to go into next year and say, okay, you know, we got the number two pick in the draft and now everything’s going to be fine. the light switch goes on and they figured out how to close out games in the fourth quarter and the coaching staff took a positive step in the right direction in an off seasonason. Like I I think I I think for a young team, which the Jets are, they’re one of the younger rosters in the NFL. And with a young head coach who’s going to be here, it’s not like he’s a lame duck and going to get fired at the end of the year. He’s going to be here next year. These wins are important for him figuring things out and and building this, you know, new culture here. Yeah, I mean it’s like I think that it matters to see it matters to just you have a new coaching staff. If they just would have went one and 15 16 the players have to buy in, right? I mean it’s like that because you have to realize the players are playing with all their heart to win. The team wants to win. The team is playing to win. Every team in football, they’re playing to win, right? any play. You wouldn’t want any player in your team that wasn’t playing to win. They’re playing to win, right? We as fans might be rooting for them to lose, but they’re playing to win. So, knowing that they’re playing to win and saying it doesn’t matter if they win or lose all their games doesn’t make sense to me because you don’t think it affects your psychology if you’re losing every single week, then you go into next season and the only thing you know is losing with this team and the only thing we know the coach has done and lose. And it doesn’t help at all maybe to say well at the end of the year we started to win some games and we started to come together and we started to improve and we could build on that like I mean entitled to your opinion if you want to say that is meaningless and means nothing. See the the problem I have is I h I live both truths. I know that there’s value in that. I believe there’s value in that. And at the same time, I know that every time we go back a draft pick or two and we fall back in the draft, it’s killing us because we don’t have a quarterback and there’s not enough quarterbacks in this draft. And if we trade up, we’re going to have to give away a lot of that tra trade capital I was really excited about using to help build this roster. You see what? So, that’s my conflict. That’s where I’m torn. I’m with you. And I wanted to pull this comment up from uh Jerome that got us started today saying that the Jets beat three bad teams on their backup quarterbacks and Jet fans are ready to start the circle jerk. Can we wait until they face a quality opponent? Uh and that kind of ties into this conversation of do these wins matter or not and what’s your reaction to this? I mean I’m okay. First I don’t know what it means circle jerk. Are we saying that it means we’re jumping around saying we’re good? Because I I don’t think it’s I don’t I mean maybe there are Jet fans that believe that. I mean I know that the part of me that was a little happy when they won wasn’t about me believing we were good or saying oh he’s you know it was about there we we were the first we were the last team to get a win. We were 0 and7 and there was question that we were the worst team in the NFL and now we’re playing the other worst teams in the NFL and if we beat some of them it doesn’t mean we’re a playoff team or a really good team but it at least at that level it means we’re better than those teams for the moment right and uh we’re playing with a backup quarterback too. Yeah, I was just going to say I I know not technically for the the Browns and Bengals win because Justin Fields was quarterbacking, but for this most recent one, the Jets are are playing with Tyrod Taylor, who’s a journeyman backup quarterback, and they were playing with Justin Fields, who’s on his third team in three years, and they traded away Sauce Gardner and Quinn Williams. And you know, they they Flaco is better than Justin Fields by a mile, right? The evidence is in the data and just your eyes if you watch. Um, Tyrod Taylor is Tyrod Taylor. Uh, does anyone really believe that Kirk C that Atlanta took a step back where Kirk Cousins? I mean, the way Pennix was playing. No, I Penn at best equal to Kirk Cousins and you could argue that Cousins is better even at his age. Yeah. So, I mean, but I think all of it is relevant because no one’s doing the circle jerk. I mean, at least we’re not if that means thinking that we’re good. I’m just thinking that I’m seeing improvement in some elements of this team. Like people say, “Oh, what are you talking about? Teams never gave up. We never gave up.” What? Why do people saying, “Oh, we like these guys because they don’t give up.” Nonsense. Last year, you want evidence that this team hasn’t given up. The last three years, we’ve given up at the end of the year. We watched this team give up multiple seasons in a row. And not in the good way because they wanted a tank. They gave up because that was the character and the culture of the locker room. that it’s nice to see that that culture is being expelled because these guys are playing their asses off. And also, yeah, maybe those teams had their backup quarterback, but we traded away Garrett Wilson is hurt. We traded away Quinn Williams and S Gardner. So, three key critical players on this team when we started the season. Three of our biggest stars are no longer on the team. So, yeah, I don’t expect to beat really good teams, but I could still say, hm, at least we’re we’re beating the bad ones, right? And does the development of AD Mitchell and John Mechy not matter into seeing like what they can be for you in the future? You had first two games that Mitchi was here, he had the touchdowns and I know he didn’t have a great game against Atlanta, but then you have the AD Mitchell game where he has a touchdown and over a 100red yards and I think you’re trying to figure out like are those long-term building pieces. The last episode we did, we went through the whole, you know, roster by position group and we’re talking about we’re trying to figure out who’s going to be here next year and if they’re winning games in that process, so be it. And people have a misunderstanding of what moral victories are. Picking out individual positives in players is not picking out is not moral victories. People have forgot what it means. moral victory is when you say we played really hard and the game was close, you know, and it’s like and we overcame this, you know, and it’s like there’s no moral victories in football. I get it, but that has nothing to do with saying, “Wow, Meti looks good. We may have a slot corner for the future.” That’s not me taking a moral victory. That’s me just looking at reality and truth as I think about this team moving forward. Maybe we don’t have to draft a slot receiver now. Maybe we have our guy. And then AD Mitchell comes up after we talked about him and said, you know, what’s his ceiling? What’s his floor? What do we got here? And then he comes and he has eight receptions over 100 yards. So that doesn’t answer the question completely, but we got five more games to watch this kid. How, you know, as a Jet fan, what else should we be focused on other than excited and intrigued to look at this kid AD Mitchell who’s only in his second year who has all the talent in the world physically and say, does this take away the need to draft a wide receiver? Like, it doesn’t mean we have to. We could still stack the wide receiver room, but does it take the gun away from our head? Do we do we actually have a WR2 where it’s no longer a gun to our head? we actually are pretty set with two wide receivers on the boundary. I’m not saying we are, but certainly he’s making us raise our eye eyebrows and wonder. Yeah, I’m not quite there yet. And I’m sure you know, you’re not writing it in stone that he’s going to be the wide receiver too in 2026. But, you know, before these guys were here, pretty much Garrett Wilson and Aren Smith were the only two guys who were saying they’re going to be here next year. Tyler Johnson, probably not. Uh Alan Lazar, definitely not. Josh Reynolds on a one-year deal. They had a ton of work to do at the wide receiver position and you know it’s it’s started. I would argue they still need another body at receiver but it’s not you’re looking for three guys a wide receiver two three and four again and not gun to your head. Exactly. Like like we might we don’t know. We might it might be gun to your head like if AD Mitchell does nothing the rest of the year and drops some more but passes it might be oh he’s definitely not the the guy you know like like we we’re still learning if he’s the guy but it’s just about which box we’ve checked. If it’s like suddenly he’s just crushing it the rest of the year and he looks amazing and then you know then maybe we could sit there and say, “Yeah, it’s a luxury to pick another great receiver and it’s a need to pick one in like the second round or the fourth round or the fifth.” You know what I mean? Like like how big is the need, I guess, is what I’m saying. How big is the need? Is it gun to your head? We absolutely should not go into next season without another receiver. The room is ridiculous. or is there a chance we actually have our WR1, a WR2, and our slot, and now we’re looking to fill the room, right? So, we’ll we’ll see how much they need to add there in the offseason. But while we’re on the topic of the offseason, I wanted to get into the the main bread and butter of what we’re going to be talking about today. Uh, which is a rumor that was circulating. Uh, U Stadium had this tweeted out a few notes from a conversation with a draft source. Contrary to recent reports, this person is hearing that Oregon quarterback Dante Moore is leaning towards entering the draft in 2026. Follows it up by saying also said the Jets have already begun exploring trade-up scenarios into the top few picks to secure a quarterback. Now, obviously, obviously, these are just uh rumors. We we don’t know this to be 100% factual. I don’t think you stadium uh is making that up. Uh I don’t think they have a reason to make that up. Um, well, the second part they’re making up there. I mean, you really believe the Jets let that kind of information out that they’re looking to trade up. Uh, the looking to trade don’t even know what pick they have yet. Like, how are we talking about? No, I I think it’s more about doing that and that that part that part. Yes, I agree with you there. but more like doing the work on on these quarterbacks and seeing who’s who’s potentially interested in in moving out and that I think that’d be more secure in um you know after the season’s over and the draft order is already set. Yeah. I mean I think that it’s very obvious we all know that there’s a strong possibility the Jets are going to be looking to trade up if we don’t have a pick that’s in within range of the quarterback we like. You know, I think that’s just them posting something to be right. But I mean, but I don’t think they have any more information than we do. I think it’s just the common sense of this our situation as a team. But the first part of it is informational if there’s anything to it. Like if they have any real thing to back it up, that’s I I never had a doubt that Dante Moore is going to come out. I think any quarterback that’s projected to go in the top five is going to come out. You’re not going to stay in school if you’re projected to go in the top five in my opinion. I I don’t think most would. Yeah. And I was gonna say as Jeff fans, I think we should be rooting for Dante Moore to come out of school. One, because that likely adds three quarterbacks towards the top of the draft. Um, and whether the Jets are targeting one of those three quarterbacks, or if they, you know, aren’t trading up, that means a better player is going to fall to you, assuming that Dante Moore is going to be a top five pick, which I think is a pretty fair assumption. Yeah. Yeah. No, I I think in I mean we got to see how the playoffs go because a lot of things change there and then you got the interviews and you got you know we all saw the the fall of Shador Sanders because of the interviews and the combines, right? So, so things do change. Um but I think right now where we’re sitting right now and you know and the if you you know you and you read all the things and all the draft experts and all the guides and all the fans and all the everything, if it feels to me like Dante Moore is going to be a top five pick. I mean, I’m I’m getting the sense there’s an urgency building. I mean, and I could be wrong, but my gut feel is is that Dante Moore, Tai Simpson, and Fernando are going to be drafted, the three of them with the first four picks, if not one, two, three, right? And it all depends, and you brought up a good point earlier by bringing this up, but we don’t know what the draft order is yet. Uh, but there are teams, you know, who have the top two picks that, you know, have a quarterback in place. Cam Ward, who’s a rookie quarterback. I don’t think they’re going to move off of him after just one year. And the Giants, with the number two pick, have Jackson Dart. So, those are two teams that could be looking to trade out. And I think there’s definitely question marks with the other teams in front of the Jets right now. New Orleans, they’re starting Tyler Shuck. So, I guess it depends on how he finishes the year. Cleveland. Kind of same thing with Shidor. But both those teams, depending on how their guys play, could be looking for a quarterback. I think Vegas at four. That feels like a lock to draft a quarterback, right? How could they not, right? Like Gino’s been pretty rough this year. Um I I think if you’re picking that high, they seem like an obvious candidate. Uh Washington, they have Jaden Daniels, and then you have the Jets. So, uh, there are other teams like I just listed out, but we don’t know how many of them are going to actually be looking to take a quarterback because as you said, there’s still five more games to go and I’m not betting the farm on it, but maybe they maybe Tyler Shuck just balls out and they’re like, “This is this is going to be our guy. We’ll give him another year.” And maybe Shador Sanders looks great and you’re going, “Okay, you know, we’re going to give it another year with Shidor.” Yeah, Shuck is not playing horribly. So, it it’s a possibility New Orleans wants to see what they have in him. They guaranteed the four years. They took him in the second round. Um, yeah, I agree. I I don’t think I mean, because I think Cleveland’s going to be drafted a quarterback if you’ve watched these two games with Sanders. I agree. But I appre I mean, it’s respectful to the player to like, well, he has five more games, so let’s hold back judgment, right? Um, I think that, you know, one of the things is I know we have the most draft capital. We have the most money. Let’s say a draft capital is money. We have the most assets to trade up to outbid other people from the draft capital sense. What we can’t predict is let’s say we’re picking at six right now the way it is right now and somebody wants to trade up with the Giants for example, right? That’s at four like Cleveland or something like that and they want to trade up just to make sure to stop us from doing it because they want to grab the quarterback. even though they don’t have as much draft capital, there’s another element we didn’t talk about last week in the last couple of weeks, the Giants might have a player they do want, like what if they love Arell Ree? What if they see him as the new Lawrence Taylor, right, in their minds? Like, this is going to be the new needlemoving Hall of Fame linebacker that’s going to turn our franchise around again, right? And I’m not saying that’s the case. I’m saying what if. If that’s the case, they might say, “We’re not trading with the Jets. We don’t care what you give us. we’re we our goal is we want to get some draft capital and we need to get this player. They might say we’re happy with what Cleveland’s going to offer us and able be able to offer us and still be able to get this player we love versus risk losing the player even though the Jets are offering more capital. So that’s going to be the hard thing to predict. We don’t know what the price is going to be and the more we slip down in the draft, the more it might make a team wary and and and not wanting to trade with us. Yeah. And moving back that far, right? Tennessee going from one to seven is a lot different than going from one to four, right? If they love a player, there might be a player, not a positional player they absolutely love. And that’s interesting. That that’s the stuff that excites me around the the draft. It’s really fun to to nerd out and get into it and see uh the strategy behind it all. Dante chimes in with the super chat. Thank you for the support. Says, “If the quarterback hasn’t started for a while in college, the Jets should not draft that quarterback. The best quarterbacks in the league have many starts in college as a starter.” So, both Dante Moore and Ty Simpson would kind of fit that bill. Fernando Mendoza is the only one with multiple years as a starter. I mostly agree with this, but there are there are outliers like Cam Newton only had that one year as a starter. Uh I believe Kyler Murray really was pretty much only the starting quarterback his final year in Oklahoma. Um so there’s examples of guys, you know, who had very limited starts come into league and have success. But I I understand where Dante’s coming from on this. I I agree with Dante up to the point of saying like that I would cross them off the list. Like I don’t do that anymore. When I rank the quarterback, I consider things. And one of the things that I do consider is how many games, how much evidence is on film. How much evidence is that that this quarterback can succeed in the NFL? Not that my system is better than anyone else’s. Anybody who says that they’re great at this and that they’re right all the time about quarterbacks is lying to you. Nobody is. Yeah. There there is no perfect formula for it, which is the very the hard part about evaluating quarterbacks, right? No one’s figured it out. I mean, you could say the Green Bay Green Bay’s organization, you can make an argument, but they’ve had different people making those decisions over those years. It wasn’t one person. Um, you know, I guess you can make some examples of some teams that managed to pull this off that oh, you know, Baltimore went from Flaco to Lamar, but for the most part, teams, this is this is a puzzle. Yeah. No, without a doubt it absolutely is. Uh, let’s keep it rolling with Jake Asmin, friend of the show, says, “I want a hobnob with a franchise quarterback this off seasonason.” That wouldn’t that be nice, Jeremy? And a franchise quarterback for the New York. He’s such such a good hobnobber. I’ll tell you the best part about Jake. Jake in his suit running to the dance floor excited when certain songs came on and dragging me with them. Oh, I loved it. That was the That was the best um seeing him out there. There was a question in here um from Ethan saying, “How many starts did Burrow have?” He started as a junior at LSU um but then had his his next year, the senior year at LSU is when he really broke out. So, he had 28 starts. Yeah. And again, it doesn’t have to be black and white and so extreme like he only started one season. You undraftable or, you know, it doesn’t matter at all. You’re allowed to be in the middle and say that impacts how I rank the quarterback. Like, it might have some impact on how I rank them, but that doesn’t make them undraftable. It’s just it’s a little bit more of a concern. Like when you do the pos the pros and the cons for some people you might check off a con like a negative check for they don’t have as many starts as other guys, right? But it doesn’t mean and a good argument to support that that it is a negative is there’s a bunch of quarterbacks that began this college season as we thought they were going to be top 10 picks. Kid from Clemson, a lot of people had him. Yeah. People had Club Nick ranked as I saw some of them rank him as one, right? There were people that had him ranked in the top five easy. Um Drew Aller last year for half of the first part of last season, you know, before even we knew if he was coming out in the draft, people had him as a top 10 pick, you know. So, the fact that these guys played more and we saw more of them play changed their rankings and changed the opinion of them. So, it is fair to say that if a guy’s only played one year, if you see him play more in college, you may actually go the other direction and change your mind about a guy and it might go the the wrong way for the player, you know. So, to me, there’s a lot of legitimacy in having that concern. I wouldn’t say that makes them undraftable, but being concerned that they’ve only had one year of starting, I believe, is legitimate. I’m with you on that. Yeah. Yeah, I think it makes sense. Um, there was another one in here that I wanted to uh pull up. It was from J Boy saying, “Did he just say Murray had success in the NFL?” Yes, I did. His first three years in the league, I thought he was pretty good. He won offensive rookie of the year and went to two Pro Bowls. Uh, he hasn’t he’s been injured and has been ineffective this year. Um, but I I would classify an offensive rookie of the year as having success. He’s not my dream quarterback. Like like obviously if we pick a quarterback, I want him to end up being better than Kyle Murray has been. I’m not the hugest fan of Kyle Murray, but at the same time, let’s be honest, when’s the last time we’ve drafted and had a quarterback play out a contract, his first year contract? Um, that’s better than Kyle Murray, Chad Pennington, right? Who got hurt. Yeah, who got hurt. But like it’s you’re going back 20 plus years. We have to go back to Chad Pennington. So, you know, we could sit there and say we’re we all want better than Kyle Murray. We all want what Drake May is doing, right? We all want a we all want a star, but at the same time, you know, realistically, I mean, if you get a guy that’s at the level of Kyle Murray, um, that’s not a guy that’s going to make you a perennial winner or carry on your shoulders or give or give us the dream, but it’s certainly a guy that if you put an amazing roster around them, gives you a chance because when you watch, you know, this this this team the last four years, we’ve been saying, man, if we had any kind of quarterback play like we didn’t need a star if we had you know those years get with uh with with Wilson with Zach Wilson when we had the top three defense in the NFL we didn’t need a Tom Brady we just needed a competent quarterback yeah like Kyle Murray on the Jets in 23 I would love to see what that team could have done maybe I don’t know I’m not guaranteeing it but I would have loved to seen it they would have been better than seven and 10 I think that’s probably a fair estimate I I don’t know if they’re winning a Super Bowl, but we had a top three defense in the NFL and we had complete incompetency at quarterback, right? We had Zack Wilson at quarterback. Now, you compare Zach Wilson to Kyle Murray. If you took that much of a jump, he’s not a superstar Kyle Murray, but if you went from Zach Wilson to Kyle Murray, how would we have done that year? I mean, our defense was holding teams to under 20 points every game, right? And they were losing games 1613, right? Because we had complete incompetency at quarterback. So, I’m just I’m not saying I want to draft a quarterback that’s Kyle Murray level, but I’m saying it’s also kind of ambitious to sit there and expect it’s not often you do better is what I’m saying. Statistically, it’s really hard to do better than him. Proven by the fact that we haven’t done it since Chad Bennington. Yes. Peter S chimes in and we’ll get to a couple more super chats. says, “I understand we all want to focus on quarterback, but we’re going to need to add decent/quality free agents first and fill as many holes as possible to build around who whomever they get. So, this is a interesting bundle. I know last week we spent some time on talking about uh Tyler Linderbomb, but uh do you have not even necessarily like it has to I’m asking you for individual players, but just the the free agency plan? Are there positions that you’re looking for or goals that you have for free agency? I think Tyler Lindon was an exception, but there might be others like similar like if you told me what if a name popped up of a really great safety who’s about to start a second contract and for some reason the team is, you know, their cap is extend, you know, that’s the guy they’re going to let loose. I don’t, you know, every team has to make decisions and let’s say that’s the one they’re going to let go and get away because they have to, right? they just don’t have the cap and somebody’s got to go, we can’t sign everybody kind of situation. Just like Lindenbound, I realized after we had, you know, we talked, you know, had that, you know, last week’s show that there might be others that emerge that we would feel that way about, but the only, it’s very few. The only free agency, free agents I’d be interested in spending any real money on is they’re 26, 25, like still very young, just finished their first contract. um you know and really really good with a long road ahead of them to be here for the full time. But I think with all of our draft picks and everything, I don’t think the team, and I don’t blame them, is looking too heavily into free agency. I think that maybe there’ll be one key move. Like I would love it to be Lind Bell, you know, like one key move, but we’re not going to be making a big splash in free agency this off season. No, I think there might be one one or two guys that they spend decent money on, but I think the rest is going to be, you know, like trying to retain Bree Hall and the offensive lineman. You make your decision at guard, maybe you bring back uh Josh Meyers if you don’t sign a Tyler Linder bomb. Um, and, you know, moving some things around the roster and adding your your depth. I’m not we’re not saying completely ignore free agency. I just don’t think we’re going to see a a 2019 Michael Captain spending spree, right? We’re not coming out like shoppers. Now in 2027, it’s very different discussion, right? Like we don’t know what I mean, we’ll see what happens then, you know, depends on next year’s progress, how we look. Then the 2027 draft, we draft all these guys. We’ll see how that free agency goes. Like, are we making the big move? Because there’s going to be a year, whether it’s 27 or 28 where we have all our draft picks in place. Hopefully, we’ve improved a lot. We’re winning, you know, we’re playoff contending team and we have this salary cap space and we’re gonna be shoppers looking to, I don’t know, stir the drink. Yeah. Yeah. Looking for the straw, looking for the cream, you know, the cherry on top of the Sunday. Like, there’s going to be a time sometime in the next, you know, not next year, but within two years after that, that we’re going to be a big shopper in free agency for sure. And now I think it’s going to be just normal free agency, you know. No, I I get that. Totally get that. Yeah. Dante’s back with the super chat. Says, “Multiple starts matter to me.” Talking about the quarterback because with the Jets, I think a quarterback who comes in as pro ready as possible is the smarter bet. And I think that’s I think that’s totally fair. All any team, not just the Jets, any team. But the Jet kind of go on the opposite side with it with their last two picks with Zack Wilson and Sam Darnold. I feel like they bet on the guy with the with the traits and not necessarily the guy with the highest floor. And maybe that’s the approach that they take this time. And and to me that’s Mendoza in this class. And I I think that’s kind of what Dante’s trying to say here. And I know you feel pretty strongly about you. Well, everybody knows I want Mendoza. And not only because of the experience. I mean that’s a nice argument. It’s a nice thing to add to his allure. But like for me, Mendoza also is just clearly better. Like as far as and I and I say that people saying, “How could you say that? Look at the stats and the box score.” I don’t care about any of that. I’m talking about better pick for me, better prospect because he’s the only one that he looks like he’s in the most realistic NFL type system in the sense that what are we asking a quarterback to do in the NFL, right? What’s the key thing? Well, we’re asking him to be able forget about mobility is great, but number one, we’re asking him to be able to drop back, go through progressions, and run an NFL offense. Well, if you look at the if you look at the prospects that we’re all talking about right now, nobody is in a a situation most similar to that right now than Mendoza. Meno’s because Mendoza is the only one that’s actually dropping back and going through progressions. That’s not to knock the other guys. They’re in systems that are simply defined systems that we all know. It doesn’t mean they won’t be great NFL quarterbacks, but again, it’s harder to judge and rate them when they’re in an offense where they’re just dropping back and it’s one read and dump, right? And that I think is important to trans getting it to translate at the next level, obviously. Uh Jason Edwards, thank you for the member chat. 32 months as a member says, “Happy hump day, fellas.” Brendan Sorsby from Cincinnati is someone I’m looking at in the second round. Thoughts? uh obviously from Cincinnati, 6’3, 230 pounds. Uh kind of labeled as like a as a dual threat guy. I think is, you know, pretty pretty athletic. Do you phrase it to you this way? I I don’t know how much work you’ve done on Sorsby so far. A little bit lately. A little. So, do you do you like him? How do you feel about him? I feel better. I If someone saids I think it’s a tie right now. If you said Jets take uh Tai Simpson with let’s say we end up with the fourth fifth pick and we take Tai Simpson or Sorsby in the second round. I think I’m about equal on that. Like in other words, I don’t I don’t have Sorsby above Tai Simpson, but when you talk about value and the risk and what you’re giving up, I kind of think that I’d be just as happy with grabbing him in the second round than I would be grabbing a guy like Dante Moore or Tai Simpson in the in the first round. Now, I was going to ask you like if the Jets, let’s say they’re picking seventh right now, let’s say that’s where they end up and Mendoza Moore and Simpson, they all go in the top five. Are you okay with them just like completely foregoing quarterback in the first round but still taking someone on day two like a Sorsby or like a Dorian Mensah? Yes, because you could you could just like New Orleans Saints might do you can then still draft next year if if you know if I mean what are we supposed to do if if teams refuse to trade up with us because they want they have a guy they love and they’re refusing to drop that far back. If that happens, if we get shut out of those three quarterbacks, if that happens, I would love for them to take Sorsby. I would love it. I would even go for, if he slips that far, I don’t believe it’s going to happen. I believe by the time we get through the combines and all of that stuff, I believe Drew Aller will come back into the picture and he’ll be a guy that goes in the second or third round as well. Um, but if for some freak reason he stays in the middle of nowhere and he’s a forgotten name and the Jets took this guy Sorsby and then in the fourth round took Drew Aller just as a dark throw and that’s not me saying Drew Aller is going to be a great quarterback or a good quarterback but in the fourth round you know like a guy with that arm that size that you know like why wouldn’t you right like throw a couple of darts if it doesn’t work out in 27 then we have no choice we have to get the quarterback But no, I am definitely never in favor of using a first round pick on a quarterback the team is settling for and doesn’t truly believe in. If they love Dante Moore, grab them. If they love Simpson, grab him. If they love Mendoza, grab them. If you if if the guys you love are gone and the guy that’s left you don’t love, you do not grab him. Yeah. And I I think that’s a really good way to look at it. Uh James is in with a super chat. Says, “Hypotheticals are easy. You look at Allar and Beck, they were top guys and aren’t anymore. Pick who you know. Travis was a second rounder before the knee. So, uh, essentially, you know, saying that, look, those guys went back to school. All stock, I think, was definitely higher last year than where it is now. Beck, I don’t not really know how much his has changed. I don’t think he would have went very high based off the season he had last year to close at Georgia. Um, and Jordan Travis, the injury really knocked him out. So for someone like Dante Moore, who we both kind of feel if he did come out, he’d be a top five pick, it might make sense for him to do that. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, I’m not saying um our solution should be throwing darts like someone in the chat is saying. I’m saying second round pick on Sorsby is not throwing a dart. It’s because if if they like him, second round pick is a real pick. That’s a real asset, right? If they were to use a second round pick on him, it’s because they believe he could be good. Fourth round pick, you absolutely, if you like it, you could absolutely throw a dart on a fourth round because of the position. You absolutely could on a fourth round pick throw a dart. Absolutely. If you think if you saw something in him, hey, we used to like that kid. He fell off a little bit, but there was some as there was some things and qualities about him. We’re going to take a shot, have him as an insurance policy. Absolutely nothing wrong with that, right? Why would there be anything wrong with that? But as your main strategy, no, the main strategy is if we love one of the top three quarterbacks, the strategy is to find a way to get them. That’s the strategy. But if you love Sornsby and you and you’re picking at 35, the 35th pick in the second round, and Sornsby’s there, and you love him, that’s not throwing a dart. That’s just taking a guy that’s not ranked as high as the other guys. How many times have we seen the fifth or sixth ranked quarterback in a draft end up being the best one? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Lamar Jackson was the last pick of the first round. There’s an example. Josh Allen, I think, was the fourth quarterback taken. Was the fourth quarterback taken. Yeah. So, it doesn’t, you know, always work out that the number one guy is the number one guy in the class. Like, I would say right right now, Drake May looks like the best of that quarterback class from a year ago. He was the third quarterback taken. Now, granted, he went third overall. It was quarterbacks one, two, three, right in a row. Uh, but it’s, you know, it’s not always the top guy. And look, they’re rarely right. Yeah, they’re rarely right. Like usually when you have like a handful of four or five guys, the guy that the experts that the world picks is the number one that ends up going first most of the time is beat out by someone in the rest of the field. And that makes sense. Rest of the field verse the one statistically rest of the field. Numbers game, right? Yeah. Yeah. Uh, we got one from Lyken says, “How would you guys feel about trading for a veteran safety like Mik uh Mika? Don’t think it’d cost much or Jesse Bates or even Derwin James. Uh, probably a little bit more costly. I would I think I’d rather go the free agency route, which is something that we were talking a little bit about before. Um, like for example, the Cameron Curl from the Rams is a free agent. He’s 26 years old. um would be getting his second contract kind of a thing. Um I I don’t know. Is there really a safety that stands out that much where you’d want to trade something for a guy like that? I don’t like trading guys you also have to pay. Okay. I like being the team that that is on the opposite side of that. I like being the team that got the first round picks and said, “Here’s your $30 million guy. Thank you and have a nice day.” Um but because free agency, it’s the money you pay the guy. Okay, fine. But trading for a guy that you it’s like double pay. You have to use up cap draft capital and you have to pay them. It’s automatically a former that puts you at a disadvantage, right? Like against teams that draft well. You have teams that draft well and their cost is their draft pick and then they get four or five years out of the guy and then they pay them. If you get a guy out of free agency, that’s the second best way to do it because you’re not trading. You’re not giving up any asset. you’re just paying a guy and if he’s really good and you pay the right guy, it ends up being a good thing. The worst way that you want to do, I’m saying I’m not saying it never works out, but the worst way to build a team is trading and paying because you’re because you’re only going to get half as much that way because you’re you’re not filling up roster spots with draft picks that are cheap. You’re you’re trading your draft assets and you’re only getting in guys that cost money. And then where how are you you don’t have draft picks anymore. So how are you gonna get your good value guys that come out of a draft? That’s tough. Unless we’re talking about one of their like sixth round picks, which they have a million of. That’s obviously a different conversation, but I think you’d have to give up more than a six round pick for any of the guys that are listed here. I almost feel like you could have Yeah. Take as many six round picks as you want. Yeah. I’m talking about like a second round pick, like trading real capital. If somebody want, you know, usually though, if it’s a high money guy, they’re going to want more than a six round pick. But maybe not. Maybe they want to dump the salary. Yeah. I mean, if there’s a world where you can get a good player who’s just kind of a cap casualty, that makes sense. But I I don’t know if one of these guys listed it fits that description necessarily. Yeah. Yeah, I mean and and I’m I’m also thinking any player that we acquire that we give up capital for, I’m thinking more long term. And I know that’s a sad, horrible thing to say. It’s just that I don’t expect to be that competitive. Maybe 27 could be playoffs. I mean, obviously there’s always the outside dream and roll of dice that it could happen in 26. You draft a quarterback, he has a great rookie year, a lot of excitement, and suddenly we’re a playoff team. Great. But realistically thinking this is a rebuild and I want a guy I want the guys we bring in I want to know are going to be here three years from now, four years from now, five years from now because I would like to build a sub, you know, s a sub sustained a sustained winner. The only exception to that kind of feeling is if we didn’t, let’s say we didn’t have two good young tackles and you drafted a rookie quarterback. I’m okay bringing in an old veteran for one or two years for that for that quarterback to help protect them. So, there are exceptions to to what I’m, you know, watch that I’m dishing out, you know. Of course. Dante’s back with another one. Says, “I’m sick of the quarterback draft analysis. Uh, they hyped up 2025. Now it’s next year already. Exhausting. Connor Rogers is the only one that I trust.” I like Conor Rogers. I think he does a great job. Domc another one of my favorite draft guys. But, uh, it does get tiresome, right? in the wait till next year conversations. It’s tiresome and it’s like this is the year, that’s not the year. And the truth is is you never know what the year is going to be like when someone’s gonna come out, right? And be good and explode. Um Tom, you know, we could you could give those little examples of guys that nobody even knew who they were like the you know, arguably the greatest of all time, you know, and Tom Brady. But um yeah, I mean I don’t I don’t trust it. I don’t even trust myself, you know. I I watch so much tape. I trust myself a lot more now with offensive line and DOMC. I trust Domc with offensive line and myself way more than I trust quarterback analysis because because I know Dom puts the hours into that too. But I guarantee you his statistics of being wrong and right about quarterbacks is not going to be any better than mine or anybody else that’s going after you know Conor Rogers or going on a website because the reality is it’s with quarterback. I don’t know if anybody’s really figured out the formula because I don’t know of anybody publicly in the world that puts out their predictions in their rankings year after year that are consistently right. And if they were, they would be being they would have a job for one of these organiz NFL organizations making a lot of money. Yeah. And even the guys who are paid the top dollars and in the number one share have their fair share of misses, too. So, I mean, yeah, it is what it is. I mean, like, if everybody would have ranked the top five quarterbacks from last year in order of how good they were, and then we wait three more years to make a determination. How many people do you think are going to have all five right in the right order? There might be some people that were better than others, but like, right, but then if you go the next five years, will it be the same people that got it right that get it right again? Like, I don’t even know. It’s such a crapshoot that No, it is. I do it out of interest. I watch the quarterbacks. I watch the All 22 all January college football and I make my own opinions knowing that they’re meaningless opinions. Now, I’ve learned that over the last two years. Uh, I like this one from Isaiah saying, “I like the USC quarterback a lot, especially if you only need to get him for a second round pick.” And Arch potentially could be a dark horse to come out. I I don’t on the second part of that, I don’t think Arch Manning is going to come out this year. I I am pretty confident he’s going to go back uh to school next year. But while on the conversation of the day two quarterbacks, we we’ve talked about Darian Mensah, we talked about Sorsby before, Mava is I think the guy that I like on day two. He’s has that like prototypical quarterback frame, 6’4, 230. uh good touchdown to interception ratio, pretty high completion percentage that I don’t like him as much as I like, you know, Mendoza or Simpson, but if we aren’t in a position to draft one of those guys in in April and you want to take that day two swing, I think that would be my player personally. Who’s that? Jayen Mayava at USC. Oh, Mayava. Oh. Oh, you’re talking about the comment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I I watched a little bit of him and it wasn’t it wasn’t great, you know, but I watched but they were overmatched. They were playing a much better team. Um, but it didn’t give me the best impression of him. But I know that he’s had other really good games and people really like him and he’s young. So, um, you know, if they did it, I would just trust them. That’s the thing. Like, if I don’t look at lots of tape, if I get to him in January and if he’s going to come out and obviously I’ll invest some time. Um, but like at the end of the day, I I don’t know what else to do, but just you have to trust the organization you’re a fan of. I mean, I don’t really trust them, but I I I just I shrug my shoulders and say, “Okay, like if they like him, you know, like like we don’t know Moogs yet.” As far as quarterback, we know that they didn’t pick a very good one for free out of free agency to be the bridge quarterback. That’s true. You know, they didn’t pick a very good one, but I’m not going to confuse that with prospecting a college quarterback too much. That’s a different different thing. Totally different thing and totally different game. Uh Ablabs in says the quarterbacks from Duke, USC, and UCLA could be good as late second round pick. So that’s Mensah, VA, and I’m I always butcher the name. I I’m from UCLA. Very impressive how you just store all this information in your head, man. Uh yeah, man. I second round picks from quarterback. if you you know assuming that means they really like the quarterback are hard to argue and you see and you hope for the best you know but but but people shouldn’t discount it and say there’s no way that second pick you know that second round pick quarterback could be good people have got to stop doing that it’s just not true sometimes teams find their quarterback in the second round it just happens oh I got to pull this one up because it’s a pet peeve of mine tab says it there’s others in the chat saying it no more USC quarterbacks I hate the the scouting of the helmet and going, “Oh, this guy went to this school. You can’t possibly take him.” Or the Jets tried to take, you know, that position uh or a player from that school at the same position, it didn’t work out. Every single prospect is different. Well, I think especially when the systems have changed over the years like USC, are they playing the same system that they were back, you know? No. So, what Right. So, I mean, when the system is different, you really can’t. When the system’s the same, it doesn’t make me say you can’t draft a guy. It makes me think makes me say you have to like if I’m going to like a guy from Oregon, I have to do more than look at his box score because I know that Oregon’s whoever plays quarterback for Oregon, their their box score is going to look good unless they suck, right? So, you have to watch and you have to say, “Well, how are they doing it?” Right? So, um, but but but when you go back with USC and say, “How many years are we going back to make that decision and say, is it even the same coaching staff?” Like, what? No, it’s not. It’s Lincoln Riley, who everyone loved because he was producing quarterbacks at Oklahoma. But now that he’s at USC and the Jets missed on two USC quarterbacks, we can’t have a conversation about the current USC, right? It would be make it would make more sense to make a judgment on how have Oklahoma quarterbacks been going into the NFL. That would make more sense if any sense than caring about the USC helmet then, right? It’s like look at the other quarterbacks that have been drafted out of that system for or from out of that coach. And that might be something that you want to be wary of. How about this one from Carlos Joey B going to be a Jet? Joe Burrow. I I don’t I don’t see that one. I don’t think he shakes loose in Cincinnati. I mean, like we love to say it and as as much of a dream as it would be, you have to understand everyone else in the NFL laughs at Jeffens when we talk about it saying like these people are on some serious serious drugs. Like why in the world do you think Cincinnati is looking to get rid of Joe Jeff Burrows? I just why would Burough want to come here? Yeah. Like like like they think we’re on drugs when we talk about stuff like that. And I loved Burrow. Like I think he’s an awesome quarterback. No doubt top five quarterback in the NFL for me. Obviously would be a historically great Jet. I don’t think it’s likely. They would have to give up a ton to get him. It’s a pipe dream. Yeah. Ablab’s back with another one. Muji an exquarterback who has done good uh evaluating for agency and the draft talent has my trust moving forward for the upcoming draft. That’s an interesting point that I haven’t considered. Do you put any additional stock in Muji because he’s a former quarterback when evaluating the quarterbacks? Maybe there’s more interest in it. You know, I I put more stock in Domc’s evaluation of of offensive linemen because he was an offensive lineman and and I think that his his hit rate I by feel I’ve never done a statistical analysis. I I feel DMC has been the most accurate at that position. Um, so I guess I I my trust in Muji is building just because it’s like you always wonder, well, he was with Denver all those years. How much did he have to do with the good decisions? How much did he have to do with the bad decisions? Right now, it’s looking like overall we may have gotten the right guy. If you’re going to pluck somebody out of an organization, we may have gotten the right guy here because there’s a lot of talent filling this roster. It might not be superstar talent, but real talent that’s coming from nothing. Yeah. I mean, look at all the the throwin trades that he did with Mitchell and Mechy and Harrison Phillips and Jarvis Brownley and Jawan Briggs. It just goes on and on and this is this is nothing. We could list so many guys. And the are they superstars? No, maybe not. But are they like guys that you can like for depth or role players? Like like like I could see Bridge and Phillips being part of our rotation next year and being valued parts of that defensive tackle rotation. Ay Mitchell might be our WR too, right? He might be. We don’t even know he’s not. And Mitchi might be our starting slot. We’ll see. We don’t know. I’m not saying any of it is factual. What I’m saying is all of this possibility is there. And you and with Brownley too, you have to like what we’re seeing. And then the draft wasn’t bad. He picked the best offensive tackle in the draft unarguably so far in, you know, in Mebo. In Mebo, he picked a really good solid tight end that does everything. Blocks, catches, passes, re really reliable hands, kind of liking Mason Taylor. Um he has a a quarterback who’s drafted in the third round that is already starting now to fill in for Sauce Gardner, right? like left and he’s not playing terribly. Third round quarterback playing his rookie year, not superstar, but he’s not playing terribly. And we know in that position tra if you know if you if you follow football and you’re a football fan that that’s one of the positions specifically quarterback that you do get a lot better through experience in the NFL. Correct. Usually, it’s very rare and going back to the the Sauce Gardner pick in 2022, it was that rare to see someone that good right away coming into the league, even as the fourth overall pick, let alone a third round pick, right? Look at Derek Stanley’s career like and how he’s blossomed now, right? Like it wasn’t immediate. Everyone thought, “Oh, the you know, they’re so stupid. The Sauce Gardner is so much better.” And now look at Derek Stingley, right? And he had the injury injury issues. I get it. But the thing is is you can’t j it’s hard to judge these things too soon. But just the fact that he’s in that game starting a Thomas and if you look at the PFF scores and you look at with your eyes, although he’s clearly making some rookie mistakes, he’s also not terrible and he’s holding his own and he’s even had some good games. What do you think of this comment from Craig? It’s a little off topic, but you have six games left. It’s five now, but throw Brady Cook out there and see what you have. he either balls out and if you win it doesn’t matter and if he helps or if you lose helps your draft position you know we always love everybody that’s Jeff fans man we always love the backup quarterback that we’ve never seen play right it’s it never fails it’s always the guy we want to see now as far as wanting to see what he has I don’t know maybe they already see what he has not like they’re not on a field with him practicing all the time it’s not like he’s on the sc not on the scout team playing all the Maybe they don’t like it. I’m not saying that for sure because, you know, we don’t AG said they have a plan for him. We don’t know what that is. Um, but I think that the problem with throwing him out there too soon, because I totally agree with this week 16, 17, last couple of games. I totally agree with this. Um, the problem with throwing him out there now is if he is terrible, you don’t get to evaluate the other players. That’s the tough part. And like there’s he might just not be ready. Like I don’t think it’s crazy to say a UDFA quarterback in year one might not be ready for NFL snaps what 13 games into his his career. Um I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt on that one. And Tyrod’s been fine. Like I I understand you know Tyrod’s 36 and he’s not you know going to be your quarterback the next five years but he’s been fine since taking over for the for the starting quarterback role. Yeah. Uh, we got a kicker comment. Draft Kensai Matzawa, the Tokyo Toe in round. I like the nickname. Tokyo Toe is great. In round six or seven, give us a kicker for the next decade. I’m starting the campaign now. Well, I mean, if you have a million six round picks, I don’t hate the idea of of taking a kicker. Um, I Nick Folk’s done a good job and if he wants to come back for another year, I’m not totally against that either. Uh, yeah. I mean, if you want to if you decide, you know, Nick Folk being his age, obviously at some point he’s going to have to be replaced. Um, I have no problem using a six round pick on a kicker if you love if you love him. Um, you know, and I we know TGO um would, you know, I did a mock draft where I just I was so bored of the six round picks that I just drafted four kickers in a row at the end and TGO loved it. So, we know to go on board with it. Look, if you I guess I could, you know, I guess if you fall in love with a guy and you believe he’s going to be like the next Jason Elam, uh, knock yourself out. But also, doesn’t Banjo get the benefit of the doubt with the year that he’s had too in making that decision? Yeah. I mean, I’m pretty much like I’m not gonna I would never argue six round. I mean, we did as Jet fans argue day three last year like with the guys from Miami, but um I don’t know why though. It’s like did because did any of us really have any better answers last year with those picks when they picked those guys? like I know I know everybody I I everybody I prospected was off the board pretty much. Um so I was like I I couldn’t really complain. Um so but I I don’t I don’t uh I don’t know. I I mean I I tr I think that I it’s early to trust them, but so far they’ve done nothing to lose my trust as far as drafting. Overall, their overall drafting and the overall trades and the overall signing of players. It’s never going to be perfect. I can’t stand when Jet fans pull out the bad thing. It’s like it’s never going to be perfect. You have to look at the big per picture. Every GM that builds a football team, if you look at them over over a certain amount of time, made mistakes, made bad judgments, things that they would do a different way. But at the end of the day, what has Mooj done to lose my confidence? He hasn’t done anything that’s made me lose faith in him. No, my biggest critique is I didn’t like his day three in the draft outside of Malachi Moore. like that in the grand scheme of things is a little nitpicky in year one. Fully fully admitting that. But I think since then he’s had a a very good summer and and trades, right? Like realizing, hey, our our interior defensive line stinks. Let me go and trade for two guys. And and Phillips and uh Briggs have played and played well for you. And you reshaped the wide receiver room at the trade deadline in in some deals. I I have no issue. Yeah, I mean he’s just doing a good job and we’re going to have our opinions and you know and before these when I was a kid before we had the internet and all this stuff and it was just some of us looking at magazines and what you know you had guys like Rusty Spooner you had a few of those just running around the streets yelling this guy’s good because they actually watch college football you know for the most part people didn’t know they knew they knew the top guys they knew the top guys that were famous on TV every week right like Dan Marino the Jet fans Danny but you after the second round, first round, once you went 30 players in, it was gone, man. It was like, who are these guys, you know? You’re looking because the only access you even had was magazines unless you were a big college football fan. But even back then, if you were a college football fan, how many games did you have access to? Right. You don’t have ESPN Plus, right? You were watching only a few games. So, now that we know and we’re watching all these players and developing all of our opinions, we’re screaming and getting angry. You, you know, fifth, sixth, seventh round. Come on. It’s I mean like you’re going to get angry because they pick a guy you didn’t know because most of it they’re like because even the guys we got angry about that and I laugh at myself too. It’s not like I knew who they were. I was mad because I didn’t know who they were. That doesn’t mean they’re bad. Like maybe, you know, so it’s silly. It’s silly. We should, you know, how about we just And I hate grading drafts the day after the draft. I think this is the dumbest thing in the world. As a matter of fact, I think the most accurate way to grade a draft, if you really wanted to be accurate and honest and real about it, if you were patient enough, is wait five years. Let’s look at the draft from five years ago, and I think we could honestly and fairly grade that draft. I don’t think we want to look at the 2020 Jets draft right now. I mean, you could get you could get a sense you could get a sense for drafts yearbyear. Obviously, you could get a sense for it. Membu’s amazing. So, we know that this is probably gonna at worst, you know, once, you know, hitting on the first pick and hitting on a guy who might be like an allp pro tackle his whole career right away stops it from being a totally disastrous draft. But to really give a thorough grading systems from one first round to the through the seventh round, you’d have to wait a a while and Right. I mean, because sometimes it takes a little bit longer to know. Yeah, it definitely it definitely does. And people who don’t know on Justin Fields, right? Tons of them out there that still don’t know. There’s still one they’re still insisting right situation be good and there are some that will ne he could he could suck for three more teams end up out of the league in five years never did anything and there will people be say blaming the Bears and the Jets and all the systems and it’ll be that it was never his fault and it was everybody else’s fault. That’s how it goes. You got ride or dies for just about everybody and especially on quarterbacks. It’s such a hot button one. Uh, all right. We’ve reached the end of our hour here live. Jets Dolphins this week. Any thoughts on that before we close it? I’m going to be torn. I want to see the players play well. I want to see AD Mitchell be a stud so I could say, “Oh my god, we have a real WR2. Not only WR2, but he’s like really, really good.” I want that to happen, but at the same time, I hate winning and watching our draft picks just go down, down, down, down. So, I don’t know. I’m going to be torn. I’ll be with Green Bean reacting to the game. Uh, I’m going to want to see them play well. If I some weird fumble, they can end up losing. I think that would be nice. Um, and then I’m going to be rooting really hard for whoever’s playing the Colts. Yeah, there we go. Uh, Jacksonville this week. So, big game. Jacksonville, baby. I want them to win more than I want the Jets to win. That That’s obviously something we got to keep a close eye on. The Colts remaining schedule. People don’t realize that when we made that trade, the Colts were projected that was a the 30th pick in the draft, right? 23, right? And now it’s like like and if they if they somehow don’t make the playoffs, it’s a top 20 pick. So, that’s what we’re hoping for. I think the Jets will have a chance on Sunday against Miami. I I don’t really trust the Dolphins out in the elements in in the Northeast. Uh although Tua has the Jets number as the Jets have never beaten Tua, which is just a crazy stat, but we’ll see. on Sunday. We’ll be back next week. Thank you so much for hanging out. I’m Matt. He’s Jeremy. And we will catch you next time.

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