Is it time for Pittsburgh Steelers and Mike Tomlin to part ways? | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC

BUT I I’M NOT CALL IF ANYBODY’S THAT’S A MAN THAT I I HOLD HIGH AND UH AND HIGH REGARD WITH WITH COACH T AND HOW HE CARRIES HIMSELF AND HOW HE TAKES A LOT OF CRITICISM. UM, BUT HE, HE COMES IN HERE AND HE STILL IS A GREAT LEADER. SO, UM, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION, BUT CALLING SOMEBODY’S JOB IS I’M NOT UP FOR IT. SO, UH, WE’LL WE’LL BE BETTER, UM, BECAUSE THEY’RE USED TO WINNING, THEY’RE USED TO, YOU KNOW, PUTTING LOMBARDIS IN A TROPHY CASE. I KEEP SAYING, WE JUST GOT TO HOLD UP OUR END OF THE DK, MEDAF. TALKING ABOUT ALL THE NOISE SURROUNDING COACH MIKE TOMLIN AND THIS IS HIS FIRST RODEO WITH THE STEELERS. SO YOU KNOW HE’S STILL KIND OF NEW TO THIS, HE’S GOT HIS 35 MILLION PER YEAR CONTRACT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN HE’S ON THIS TEAM THAT HAS BEEN A MODEL OF STABILITY AND IT FEELS LIKE IT’S ANYTHING. BUT STABLE WE WELCOME ANDREW PHILIP PONY OF 937. THE FAN IN PITTSBURGH PART OF THE PM TEAM I APPEAR THERE. EVERY WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON, WE HAVE WRANGLED ANDREW 3 TIMES THIS YEAR FOR THE SOLO ONLY ADDITIONS OF PFT LIVE, BUT IT REALLY DOES FEEL DIFFERENT. THIS TIME. I’M ACCUSTOMED TO THAT SEGMENT OF THE FAN BASE. ANYTIME THERE’S 2 OR 3 LOSSES IN A ROW FIRE. TOMLIN FIRE TOMLIN. THEY TYPICALLY QUIET DOWN, MAN. IT FEELS DIFFERENT THIS TIME, DOESN’T IT? YOU KNOW, IT DOESN’T FROM MY PERSPECTIVE MIKE BECAUSE FOR YEARS, WHENEVER THE STEELERS WOULD LOSE A GAME AS YEAR UH, TALKING ABOUT, I WOULD GO ON THE AIR THE FOLLOWING DAY AND BE INUNDATED WITH PEOPLE THAT WOULD CALL INTO OUR SHOW OR TALK TO US AND SAY, MIKE NEEDS TO GO, BUT TO YOUR LARGER POINT, YOU KNOW, IT CROSSES THE RUBICON FROM SPORTS TALK TOPIC WHERE YOU’RE, UH, AN OUTLET FOR ANGRY DISENCHANTED UH DISILLUSIONED FANS TO YOUR PAYING CUSTOMER YOUR MOST, LOYAL FANS SHOWING UP AT A GAME AND CHANNING FIRE TOMLIN AND BOOING. THE STEELERS RALLY CRY RENEGADE IN THE SECOND HALF. AND SO FOR A LONG TIME, I’VE SEPARATED THE PEOPLE WHO INTERACT WITH US FROM MAYBE THE AVERAGE FAN, BUT THAT GAME SUNDAY SHOWED ME THAT THE AVERAGE FAN. NOW SHARES THE SAME OPINION, AS WHAT I THINK ART ROONEY WANTED TO BELIEVE WAS A VERY VOCAL MINORITY, TOMLIN NOW, YOU’RE GETTING, I THINK YOUR MOST EVEN KILLED LEVELHEADED NOT JUST STEELERS FANS, BUT PEOPLE WHO’VE COVERED THE STEELERS FOR A VERY LONG TIME. SAYING LOOK, THIS THING HAS RUN ITS COURSE, IT’S PROBABLY TIME FOR BOTH PARTIES TO GO THEIR SEPARATE WAYS. AND I THINK AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY ON YOUR SHOW AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DURING THE BREAK. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE UPCOMING SCHEDULE, THEY HAVE THE GAME IN BALTIMORE. IF THAT GAME DOESN’T GO THE STEELERS WAY. AND WHO KNOWS AT THIS POINT? HOW THAT 1’S GOING TO GO? BECAUSE BOTH TEAMS RIGHT NOW HAVE SEEMINGLY MORE FLAWS THAN THEY HAVE STRENGTHS. BUT IF THE STEELERS LOSE THAT THE NEXT GAME IS A MONDAY NIGHT, PRIME TIME, MIAMI DOLPHINS, GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR FANS TO VOTE WITH THEIR FEET AND PUT THEIR FEET UP ON THEIR OTTOMAN AND WATCH THE GAME ON TV WHILE THEY SIP, EGGNOG 10 DAYS BECAUSE I’M TELLING YOU, IF I WAS A SEASON TICKET HOLDER, I’M NOT SHOWING UP FOR THAT GAME. IF THEY LOSE AND FALL TO 6 AND 7 ON SUNDAY. DIRTY LITTLE SECRET THAT I DON’T THINK THE NFL FANS AROUND UH, THE COUNTRY AND WORLD. I DON’T THINK THEY KNOW THIS, BUT STEELERS FANS, NOTORIOUSLY ARE ACTUALLY ANTI-P PRIME TIME GAMES. THEY PREFER A 1:00 SUNDAY GAME EVERY WEEK. THEY’RE OLD-FASHIONED IN THAT WAY. THEY’RE NOT REALLY A FAN BASE THAT WANTS TO BRAVE THE ELEMENTS AND GO OUT AND KICK A GAME OFF AT 8:20, AND THEN GET HOME AFTER MIDNIGHT, THERE’S NOT REALLY THEIR THING. UM, SO YOU ALREADY START THERE AS AS HAVING AN ISSUE WITH CREATING UH ROCK IS HOME ENVIRONMENT FOR A PRIME TIME GAME. THEN YOU ADD IN WHAT YOU JUST SAID AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT SUNDAY AFTERNOON IN BALTIMORE IS 1 OF THE BIGGEST GAMES MIKE TOMLIN HAS EVER COACHED HIM. I THINK IT’S ALMOST A WATERLOO LIGHT GAME FOR HIM WHERE THIS NARRATIVE THAT’S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. THAT’S EVERYWHERE. IT’S UBIQUITOUS, HE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY. IF HE CAN UPSET BALTIMORE TO AT LEAST STAUNCH THAT BLEEDING FOR A WEEK MAYBE LONGER IF THEY WIN, THEY’LL BE IN FIRST PLACE. THEY’LL HAVE UPSET LAMAR ON THE ROAD IF THEY LOSE. THEN I THINK WHAT YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE MONDAY NIGHT AGAINST MIAMI IS A STADIUM THAT’S AT BEST AT 2/3 CAPACITY, AND THE PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP THERE, MIKE, MANY OF THEM ARE NOT GOING TO BE THERE TO SEEING THE STEELERS PULL. FOCUS ON, THEY’RE GOING TO BE THERE TO DO THE SAME THING THEY DID IN THE SECOND HALF OF THE BILLS GAME TO LET THE OWNER AND THE COACH KNOW WE’RE HERE BECAUSE WE’RE NOT DOWN WITH WHAT’S HAPPENING. AND WE WANT YOU TO HEAR, WE WANT THE NATIONAL MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL, AUDIENCE TO KNOW THAT WHAT’S GOING ON IN PITTSBURGH ISN’T GOOD ENOUGH AND WE’RE SICK OF IT AND I THINK IT’S GOING TO BE PROBABLY 1 OF THE UGLIEST SCENES WE’VE EVER SEEN AT A STEELERS GAME SINCE THAT STADIUM OPENED IN 2000. IT’S AMAZING TO THINK OF IT THAT WAY BECAUSE I WATCHED ALL OF MIKE TOMLIN’S PRESS CONFERENCE ON TUESDAY, HE SEEMS VERY UNBOTHERED. HE SEEMS VERY CONFIDENT IN JUST KIND OF A, CASUAL NONCHALANT SORT OF WAY. AND I TOLD YOU THIS YESTERDAY, MY TAKE ON IT ALL IS AFTER 19 YEARS AND THAT’S A RIDICULOUSLY LONG TIME FOR THE SAME TEAM TO HAVE THE SAME HEAD COACH IN TODAY’S NFL AFTER 19 YEARS, YOU JUST GET INTO A COMFORTABLE RUT AND I WHERE YOU REALIZE YOU KNOW, I GOING TO? AND PULL OUT MY HAIR AND LIVE AND DIE WITH EVERY SINGLE GAME. WHEN I’M CONFIDENT, WE’RE GOING TO WIN ENOUGH THAT WE’RE GOING TO BE RELEVANT IN DECEMBER. WE’LL SEE HOW EACH SEASON PLAYS OUT AND THEN WE’LL LOAD IT UP AND DO IT AGAIN. AND THE MONEY KEEPS FLOWING, THE FANS KEEPS SHOWING UP. I KEEP GETTING PAID 16 MILLION A YEAR. WHY AM I GOING TO DROP MYSELF CRAZY OVER THE FACT THAT I DON’T WANT TO PLAY OFF GAMES SINCE 2016? AND I THINK THAT BOTH TEAM AND COACH CAN FALL INTO THEY, SPOT WHERE, GET TOO COMFORTABLE AND I THINK THE FANS MAKING IT UNCOMFORTABLE IS THE THING THAT’S GOING TO POTENTIALLY WAKE 1 OR BOTH SIDES UP. I THINK YOU GET MIKE TOMLIN ANSWERING THAT QUESTION, TUESDAY ABOUT THE FIRE TOMLETTE CHANCE, THE WAY THAT HE DID A SMILE ON HIS FACE. SAYING, I GENERALLY AGREE WITH THEM. I AGREE WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE SAYING THESE MEAN THINGS ABOUT ME BECAUSE WE’RE IN THE SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS AND HE’S REALLY KIND OF LAUGHING IT OFF AS HE SAYS IT. I THINK THAT HAPPENS ONLY WHEN A COACH BELIEVES IN HIS HEART THAT THERE’S A 0% CHANCE OF HIM GETTING FIRED. IT HAS INFINITE JOB SECURITY. I THINK IF THIS WERE A COACH SAY KEVIN STEFANSKY OR YOU KNOW NAME, ANY OTHER COACH WHO MIGHT BE ON A HOT SEAT, I THINK THEY THEY’RE MORE SENSITIVE TO THE QUESTION. THERE’S PROBABLY MORE OF AN AWKWARD ANSWER IN THAT SITUATION WITH MIKE. I JUST THE THINK, GIVEN WHO HE WORKS FOR AND THE WAY HE KNOWS HIS BOSS IS HISTORICALLY, FELT ABOUT HIM THAT IT’S AN IMPOSSIBILITY THAT HE’S FIRED. AT LEAST HE FEELS THAT WAY RIGHT NOW. UM, MIKE, YOU MADE A GOOD POINT. I THOUGHT, YESTERDAY, WHEN YOU BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT 1 OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAS CAUSED THIS DIVIDE THIS WEDGE BETWEEN THE STEELERS FANS AND MIKE TOMLIN IS THE PROCLAMATIONS THAT WERE MADE. NOT ONLY BY HIM BUT IT BY BUT HIS PLAYERS ABOUT MIKE, YOU MADE A GOOD POINT. IT BY. BUT HIS PLAYERS ABOUT HE DID NOT SHY AWAY FROM THE IDEA THAT THIS DEFENSE WAS GOING TO BE AMONG THE GREATEST IN NFL HISTORY THAT WE’D BE TALKING ABOUT THEM WITH THE LEGION OF BOOM, SEAHAWKS IN THE 2000 RAVENS IN THE 85 BEARS. IN THE 70S, STEELERS IN THE 2008, STEELERS AND ALL OF THOSE TEAMS AND ALMOST EVERY WEEK WHEN THEY LOSE. THERE IS SOME HISTORICAL, FOOTNOTE ABOUT THE STRUGGLES DEFENSE, WHERE IF YOU PUT IT IN THE CONTEXT OF ALL-TIME STEELERS TEAMS, WE’VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING QUITE LIKE IT IN A NEGATIVE WAY. AND YOU WOULD THINK IN OWNER, WHO IS SPENDING MILLIONS ON DEFENSIVE PLAYERS, ALMOST 20 MILLION DOLLARS ON A DEFENSIVE COACH WOULD BE LIVID OVER THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT BUSINESS OWNERS. DO NOT LIKE SPENDING WAY MORE THAN THEIR PEERS IN GETTING FAR, WORSE, RESULTS, AND THAT’S WHAT’S HAPPENED HERE. SO I JUST WONDER IF THAT WAKES UP THE OWNER. WAIT A SECOND, WHY AM I DOING THAT? SHELLING OUT ALL THIS MONEY FOR WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE BEST DEFENSE IN THE NFL AND WE CAN’T EVEN HOLD THE BILLS UNDER 240. RUSHING YARDS AT HOME. MIKE, THAT’S WHAT I WONDER ABOUT TOO. IN THIS SITUATION. I WAS ON RADIO IN SEATTLE LAST NIGHT. AND THE ISSUE OF TOM AND CAME UP, IT’S THE BIGGEST STORY. 1 OF THE BIGGEST STORIES IN THE NFL AND 1 OF THE THINGS I SAID THERE. AND I WONDER IF THIS FACTORS INTO ART ROONEY’S THINKING IF YOU MOVE ON FROM TOMLIN, WHO YOU GOING TO GET TO REPLACE HIM. AND HOW GOOD ARE YOU GOING TO NUMBER 2? WHERE’S HE GOING TO GO? AND HOW? WELL IS HE GOING TO DO? AND I DON’T KNOW THAT ART ROONEY THINKS ABOUT THAT BUT HOW CAN YOU NOT THINK ABOUT IT? BECAUSE YOUR FANS ARE GOING TO THINK ABOUT IT BECAUSE THAT’S THE NEXT STEP AND I THINK THAT’S 1 OF THE REASONS WHY MIKE TOMLIN CAN SMILE IN THE FACE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT FIRE TOMLIN CHANCE. I THINK HE’S GOT A HIGH DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE THAT ART, ROONEY DOESN’T HAVE THE CONFIDENCE THAT HE CAN FIND SOMEONE. 1 BETTER TO MAKE THE MOST OUT OF A PRODUCT THAT IS FLAWED. THE TALENT IS FLAWED AND I THINK YOU COULD SAY, TOMLIN SUPERPOWER IS, HE’S MANAGED OVER THE YEARS TO GET MORE OUT OF THE INDIVIDUAL PARTS COLLECTIVELY THAN OTHERS COULD. BUT THAT’S, AND I, THAT’S WHAT I’VE ALWAYS SAID TO MY FRIENDS BECAUSE I GOT, I GOT A TEXT CHAIN WITH 4 GUYS, I’VE KNOWN SINCE I WAS VERY YOUNG AND 2 OF THEM ARE QUICK TO SAY FIRE TOM THAT, AND I ALWAYS SAY, YOU GOT TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT COACH IS GOING TO BE. DO YOU THINK ART, IS FACTORING THAT INTO THIS ANALYSIS AT ALL? I I BETTER BE CAREFUL BECAUSE THE NEXT GUY MAY NOT BE ANYWHERE CLOSE TO MIKE TOMLIN IN OVERALL COACHING CAPABILITY. WELL THEY’RE 3 FOR 3, GOING BACK TO 68. THEY HAVEN’T GOTTEN A COACHING HIGHER WRONG FOR AS MUCH AS I CRITICIZE AND QUESTION MIKE TOMLIN’S ABILITY TO RALLY THIS TEAM AND PUT THIS TEAM IN POSITION TO COMPETE FOR SUPER BOWLS. AGAIN, THERE’S NO DENYING THAT IT WAS A GOOD HIRE. HE WON A SUPER BOWL WHEN HE WAS IN HIS MID-30S, HE WAS THE YOUNGEST COACH IN NFL HISTORY AT THE TIME TO WIN A SUPER BOWL. HE WENT TO ANOTHER 1 2 YEARS LATER. UH BILL COWER, SAME THING, A RIGHT OFF THE BAT INHERITING. A 7 AND 19 WON THE DIVISION. UH SHORTLY THEREAFTER WAS IN THE SUPER BOWL UH, WHAT A SUPER BOWL OBVIOUSLY. CHUCK NULL’S RESUME SPEAKS FOR ITSELF LIKE YEAH, I DO THINK THERE’S A LITTLE BIT OF UH, PARALYSIS BY FEAR WHEN. OKAY. LIKE NOW IT’S ON ME. I HAVE TO HIRE THE NEXT GUY AND MY DAD WAS 3 FOR 3 ON HIRES AND ALL 3 OF THOSE MEN ARE GOING TO BE IN THE HALL OF FAME. I THINK MIKE TOMLIN ENDS UP IN CANTON, 1 DAY. SO I DO THINK THAT THAT’S PART OF IT, AND WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT HIM FINDING GREENER PASTURES. I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE IS A CONSIDERATION TOO. BECAUSE YES, EVERYONE SAYS ANDY REID LANDED ON HIS FEET IN KANSAS CITY BUT TO THE EAGLES CREDIT EVEN THOUGH THEY’VE CYCLED THROUGH SOME COACHES, THEY’VE WON A COUPLE SUPER BOWLS. AND I THINK THAT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY A CONCERN AMONG THE STEELERS OWNERSHIP GROUP. THAT ALL RIGHT, IF WE MOVE ON FROM THIS GUY, HOW DO WE FIND THE NEXT MIKE TOMLIN? BECAUSE, UH, I DON’T KNOW HOW MUCH ART ROONEY IS INVOLVED. IN THE OVERALL SELECTION OF MIKE’S COACHING STAFF, IF HE IS PART OF THAT PROCESS. WELL, THEN, THAT HASN’T BEEN GOOD BECAUSE 1 OF I THINK THE FAILURES OF MIKE TOMLIN LATELY IS HE HAS NOT SURROUNDED HIM WITH GOOD YOUNG COACHES. MIKE THERE’S NOBODY IN THE PIPELINE WHEN BILL COWER LEFT, YOU HAD RUSS, GRIMM YOU HAD KEN, WHISENHUNT AND THEN THEY GOT KNOCKED OFF THEIR FEET BY MIKE TOMLIN. IN WINSTON HUNT WENT ON TO TAKE ANOTHER TEAM TO THE SUPER BOWL. THERE’S NOBODY HERE. THAT’S NOT KNOCKING ON THE DOOR. THERE’S NO SUCCESSION PLAN, THERE’S NO GERARD MAYO AND I WONDER IF THAT’S PART OF THE FEAR THAT, UH, THE STEELERS SUCCUMB TO HERE, AND WHY THEY FALL BACK BACK ON STABILITY AND LOYALTY AND CONTINUITY WITH COACH. PATRIOTS FANS WOULD SAY IT’S THERE. IN THE BUILDING. THAT’S NOT EXACTLY THAT DIDN’T WORK OUT VERY WELL IN NEW ENGLAND, BUT YOU’RE RIGHT AND I REMEMBER BILL COWER RECOMMENDED CHAN, GAYEE FOR THE JOB. WHEN BILL COWER LEFT GAYEE, I THINK WAS ALREADY BUT THAT WAS THE NAME THAT THAT HE PUT OUT THERE AS HIS SUCCESSOR AND YOU’RE RIGHT. THEY WERE BLOWN AWAY BY MIKE TOMLIN AND THE REST IS HISTORY. I DON’T WANT TO GET TOO PHILOSOPHICAL HERE, BUT I JUST LOOKED IT UP. ART ROONEY II WAS BORN IN 1952 AND THIS HAS BEEN THE FAMILY BUSINESS FOR THE 73 YEARS OF HIS LIFE. HE CAME OF AGE, HE GREW UP HIS CHILDHOOD WAS A REVOLVING DOOR OF COACHES. JOHN MASON, JOE BACH WALT KEESLING BUDDY PARKER MIKE NIXON BILL AUSTIN AND THOSE WERE ALL THE COACHES BETWEEN THE TIME ART. ROONEY WAS BORN AND THE TIME HE TURNED 16 AND THEY HIRED CHUCK NULL. SO I FEEL LIKE AT SOME LEVEL. HE’S GOT TO HAVE A FEAR OF RETURNING TO THE DAYS WHERE THEY CAN’T GET IT RIGHT? AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY’RE LIKE 1 OF THESE OTHER TEAMS LIKE THE CARDINALS THAT EVERY 3 OR 4 YEARS IS FIRING A COACH. HE DOESN’T WANT THAT IN HIS LIFE. HE DOESN’T WANT IT AT THIS STAGE OF HIS LIFE AT 73 AND THAT’S WHY I THINK EVEN EVEN IF THE STADIUM IS 2/3 FULL FOR THE DECEMBER 15TH GAME AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE CHANTING FIRE TOMLIN AND BOOING RENEGADE AND THROWING STUFF ON THE FIELD AND WHATEVER THEY MAY DO. I DON’T KNOW THAT, THAT MOVES THE NEEDLE BECAUSE I THINK IT’S NOT WANT. TO BE THE 1 WHO STARTED. THIS RETURN TO THE 40S 50S AND 60S, BECAUSE PEOPLE THINK THE STEELERS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. FOR NEARLY 40 YEARS. THEY WERE AS DYSFUNCTIONAL AS A TEAM COULD BE, I DON’T THINK ART WANTS TO BE THE 1 WHO FULFILLS THE OLD SANDALS TO SANDALS IN 3 GENERATIONS, MANTRA. THE 1 THING THOUGH THAT I DO THINK THE STEELERS HAVE UM EVOLVED INTO THAT IS SIMILAR TO THOSE LIKE PRE DYNASTIC, STEELERS TEAMS, THE 1 THING THAT IS I THINK NOW A COMMON TRAIT BETWEEN THOSE LOSING STEELERS TEAMS TEAM IS UH, GENERATIONS OF STEELERS FANS WERE TAUGHT THAT WHAT SEPARATED THE WINNING STEELERS TEAMS FROM. THE LOSING STEELERS TEAMS IS THAT THEY BUILT THROUGH THE DRAFT. THEY HAD AN AMAZING SCOUTING DEPARTMENT WITH THE GREAT BILL NUNN, WHO WENT OUT TO THE HISTORICALLY, BLACK COLLEGES AND FOUND THESE GREAT PLAYERS AND UH THEY WERE ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF THAT AND THEY WERE PIONEERS AND THAT GAVE THEM A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE IN THE 70S AND WHATNOT, THEY HAVE GONE BACK TO THOSE DAYS YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE DARK DAYS IN STEELERS. HISTORY IS MIKE WELL ANYMORE. AND NOW, WE’RE JUST BRINGING IN EVERY VETERAN PLAYER WE POSSIBLY CAN. OH, DARIUS SLAY, YOU’RE NOT WORKING OUT. LET’S FIND A 35 YEAR OLD ADAM THIELEN TO PLAY WIDE RECEIVER. LET’S TRADE ASSETS FOR DK METCAP, LET’S MAKE A TRADE FOR JAYLEN THOSE WERE THE THINGS WE WERE THAT WERE INSTILLED IN US THAT THE STEELERS USED TO DO UNDER THOSE PREVIOUS COACHING REGIMES, THEY DIDN’T TRUST ROOKIES, THEY DIDN’T BELIEVE IN THE DRAFT. WELL, THEY SHIFTED AND PIVOTED FROM THAT, AND THAT’S WHEN THE DYNASTY, AND THAT’S WHEN THE STEELERS TOOK OFF. SO THAT’S TO ME, THAT’S VERY SIMILAR. OBVIOUSLY, THE COACHING THING IS WAY DIFFERENT, BUT THEY’RE ALREADY BECOMING A TEAM THAT HAS TO ACT DESPERATELY MIKE, AND IT’S KIND OF LOST THE

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41 comments

  2. We Steelers fans are too spoiled. We deserve a decade in the damned desert.
    Have 3 or 4 losing seasons in a row and they will be crying out for Tomlin to return.

  6. My problem with Tomlin is he says well we're going to go back to the drawing board then why does he come back with the same game plan week after week that's telling me that he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room and he's not he's the dumbest

  7. If the Steelers did the right thing last year, they could've hired Mike Vrabel… Vrabel was drafted by the Steelers and has the mentality necessary to coach in the steel city… major fail so now we're stuck with mediocrity…

  11. Who cares who the next coach is? Putting the same stale product out there year after year isn’t working, so the only logical move is to start over.

  14. i like how the media creates narratives and say it enough start to believe its objective facts.. Your thoughts on what Tomlin is thinking based on how you think he should be or not be acting is not factual information.

  15. That’s a good question for media to ask the Steelers… “who’s been hiring the Steelers coaches and staff?”

    I haven’t heard a definitive answer

  16. Mike Tomlin has not done enough to get into the Hall of Fame. He inherited a Super Bowl calibur team that Bill Cowher created before he left. Tomlin has done nothing since that team disbanded.

  20. When the draft is in Pittsburgh next year and if Tomlin is the coach, its going to embarrassing for the Steelers organization

    Steeler fan will be booing

  21. The Steelers organisation is a picture of stability. Like really nice shelving. But at some point you have to put something on the shelves, and it’s been a while.

  22. Big Ben got two coaches into the hall of fame. But most fans probably think he falls short 😂. Tomlin was handed a franchise qb. Since it went away he’s in no man’s land. Even when he had it terrible game management made so many of those teams underachieve.

  25. and hire who to replace Tomlin? nuts, Tomlin is going nowhere, that roster is not good enough, no franchise QB, they spend more on defense than any other team, yet that unit doesn't deliver. that sounds more like a GM problem
    what are Steelers fans going to do? become Browns fans?

  26. Tomlin should of been gone years ago along with the Bills McDermott after that 13 second playoff loss choke job. Those teams have hit their ceiling with their "defensive" minded head coaches and the same has come to fruition for John Harbaugh at Baltimore. All these teams need to go the direction of hiring an offensive HC.

  27. Our culture is gone. We were the intimidators. We did have a legacy at positions. Swann/Stallworth to Lipps then Ernie Mills Yancey Thigpen to Hines Ward. The Antonio Brown situation wrecked that. We used to produce recievers. Now we need to trade and sign for one. And that player isn't worth it. Same thing at linebacker offensive line etc. The lineage we had is gone

  29. The Pirates can be a losing team forever and nothing will change. The NFL is a completely different Brand and product. Pittsburgh Steelers fans can force change.

  31. I don't care if people think tomlin is a good coach and every team would hire him if he was fired here… he's not working in pittsburgh anymore, he's happy with being 1 or 2 games above average/500% and that isn't steeler football.

  32. Trade Tomlin to the Falcon for a 1st round pick and a 3rd round pick after they fire their head coach at the end of the season then hire Jon Gruden"Chuckie" and if the guy needs to met the Rooney Rule then hire defensive coordinator who beat the Steelers time and time again while on his Patriot run named Brian Flores who is a defensive mastermind and won 4 Superbowls with the Patriots… Now make sure Omar Khan doesn't allow Gruden or Flores hire the Offensive coordinator….Last thing, My Hometown Steelers already had 12 picks in the coming 2026 draft which is the most of any team and this is before the Tomlin trade ….The Tomlin trade can be a 1st and 3rd rounder for the 2027 draft when all then now to young QBs will be available… Let's build through the draft with the 12 picks and only get highly talented guys to put around Will Howard at least for 1 season…

  35. You get a certain bad and old without a QB, you start to build and stop trading and to some extent resigning, an expensive star just makes you bad+. Dangerous for a GM, you pick top 10 or 5 a few years in row, your gone never to be seen again.

  41. The only good Rooney was Dan. Art Sr. was a perennial loser and Art2 has presided over the decline of the empire built by Dan.

    It's time for new leadership, John Stallworth is the logical choice.

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