Joe Ryan is among the pitchers that interest the Mets in a potential trade for a frontline starter, and the Twins are “believed to like Jonah Tong,” per the New York Post’s Jon Heyman. Ryan, 29, pitched to a 3.42 ERA last season in 31 appearances He has two years of team control remaining

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  1. Im not trading Tong for Ryan. Ryan is a good pitcher but Im only giving up Tong for a top tier ace (like Skubal) and Ryan is not that.

  2. Selling low on your young prospect would be a huge waste. Might as well have made a blockbuster trade before he was called up if you’re going to overreact this hard when he isn’t an ace in his first couple of starts

  4. I like Ryan, and Tong is probably the right asking price for him, but it’s still tough.

  6. Don’t want that trash franchise wrecking Jonah.

    Offer a lower rated prospect in exchange for taking on unwanted salary they have. The cheap ass Pohlad clan will jump all over it.

  7. Tough call, Ryan is an above average starter and is ready to contribute, but I see Tong being a future 2-3 guy for us and for a longer duration he just needs a bit more time in the minors.

    Depending on how the starter market goes for us this offseason though this might be a move we end up making.

  8. I feel like I am the insane one reading the comments here and on twitter. Tong is still quite massively an unknown. Joe Ryan just keeps getting better year after year and is a budding ace. Why would people rather pray Tong becomes Joe Ryan instead of just… getting Joe Ryan??

  9. Do it. We can just buy him back later anyway if he pans out.

    I remember when we held onto Fernando Martinez for too long. You never know with these prospects. 

  10. I’d rather just bite the bullet and sign Valdez or somebody similar, then maybe trade for a second more affordable pitcher like Keller who won’t cost us a Tong or Sproat. The Mets badly need young pitching prospects right now. I’d love to trade position player prospects but selling teams may want pitching.

  12. I’ve been saying we should trade for him for months now. Joe Ryan has some serious untapped potential, like “Zack Wheeler once he went to Philly” potential.

    The Mets should be focusing on lower risk-high ceiling players. Don’t spend an obscene amount of money on starting pitching in free agency unless it’s someone like Skubal.

    Trade for both Joe Ryan and Sandy Alcantara. If it takes Jonah Tong then so be it. We are ready to compete now and we don’t have time to wait years for certain players to mold into reliable starters (which is how long it will probably take for Jonah Tong).

    Also [lmao](https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesotatwins/s/PcgItCCUlJ)

  14. I don’t know, I don’t love this notion that much off the top of my head.
    Are there more piece to this that would be involved ?

    While I like Ryan’s stats, and he seems to be getting better in each of the last three years, and he’s not a Free agent until 2028, he will be 30 in June, while Tong will only turn 23 in June.

    Tong is potentially a solid front of rotation piece by mid-2026 or start of 2027.

    Mets have the money and can buy pitching for the short term-to-midterm-or even long term if need be, rather than trading Tong for Ryan when Tong maybe has more upside.

    Not saying we need to keep all our top pitching prospects.
    I am okay with trading one of them in the right deal.
    I just don’t have that feeling like this is the “right” deal to do it.
    Maybe just save the arms for a bigger fish to trade for later ?

  16. I’d rather the Mets have a youth movement. I like tong and sproat . Try to trade manea, move Holmes back to the bullpen. I see Christian Scott more as a reliever/closer. Trade or cut McNeil. I admit 1b will be tricky, I like Alonso if he agrees to be full time dh. Maybe trade vientos . Jett at cf, benge in lf or rf. Soto to lf or dh if he agrees, or 1b if he looks good there. Peterson keep for another year considering he’s a groundball pitcher and if defense really improves at both 2b and 1b, he should have a good year.

  17. Needs to be bigger. I’d like Buxton from the twins more than anything else. Make Ryan a part of that package with Tong headlining the package going out with lesser prospects, I may like it a little more.

    Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to lose Tong, but we need a bonafide CF.

  19. I think McLean and Sproat are both better than Tong so I wouldn’t mind trading him for a legit front of the rotation starter

  20. I love Tong and would be sad to lose him, but this is probably a trade you make. Ryan has two years control and is a proven TOR pitcher.

  23. Maybe a hot take: no?

    Tong has 6 years of control and can ‘probably’ pitch to a 4.00 ERA next year. That’s definitely not a Joe Ryan but can he be with those other 5 years of control?

    We have an abundance of hitting. I’d much rather lose some positional prospects than these 3 mlb ready starters. We also could really use the depth. Losing Tong for Ryan doesn’t add any pitching depth, just improves the ability of one of those depth options in the short term.

  24. Joe Ryan is a good pitcher. If Tong is in the package, we should be setting our sights higher.

  26. doesn’t this go against Stearns’ philosophy of developing pitching in house? I think everyone recognizes that we need a top of the rotation pitcher next year – someone who can stop the bleeding when we go on losing streaks – but is Ryan that pitcher? and if he’s not, why would we give up prospects who could help build a more sustainable pitching core in the next few years?

  30. I don’t mind parting with Tong. I didn’t love his pitching. Yes he’s a rookie. Needs work I get it.

    But not for Joe Ryan. Aim higher.

  31. I would love for us to get Ryan. While it won’t give us an ace, it would at least give us a pitcher that’s a known quality, something that we don’t currently have. However, Tong seems like too steep of a price for us. 

  32. I feel a full-fledged blockbuster trade coming this offseason for Mets. I saw twins are kicking the tires with a buxton trade too. I know buxton has been one of the most injury-riddled “stars” of the past several years but if the price is right? McNeil Tong and Mauricio for Ryan & Buxton? I think I would do it. Buxton played over 100 games past two seasons and is only making 15mil a year through 2028.

    I’m sure a lot of people would hate a trade like that but I’m open for a classic front-page NY blockbuster trade

  33. Congratulations to Tong on his Cy Young next year if this goes through bc thats always how it goes

  34. Twins: We like Jonah Tong

    Me: You can fuck right off

    Tigers: We have Skubal available

    Me: Have you seen this Tong kid?

  35. I would like it as part of a much larger overall package that maybe includes Pablo Lopez and/or Byron Buxton

  36. Tong has a lot of potential, but ultimately is a lottery ticket. You need a proven front line starter to help take advantage of Soto/Lindor, et al while they’re in their prime.

  37. You know apparently Joe Ryan is known to fall off in the second half…not ideal if we’d be really giving up a ton for him.

  38. Tong has so much potential, I feel he’s going to be similar to Wheeler, I would try and hold on to him man.

  39. Can we find a way to trade some of the dozen infielders we have instead of pitching prospects we desperately need.

  40. Would be a totally fine trade. I don’t know what people expect. A 29yo pitcher with 2 years of control is going to require giving up something of value.

    A lot of fans on this sub need to update their priors. Seems like every time a free agent pitcher signs, people say it’s an overpay. Any time trade rumors come up, people say it’s terrible unless the headliner is like Mauricio. Just look around the league, pitching is at a premium. You can scoff at the price and go digging through the bargain bin but everyone saw how well that worked out last year.

  41. As a Mets/Twins fan whose favorite baseball player is Joe Ryan, I don’t know what to think.

  42. I don’t understand why people are so quick to give up tong in trades. I’ll put it this way if he didn’t come up at all last year would we wanna trade him? He showed some good and some bad. Because he came up (when he shouldn’t have been up in the first place) he’s now tradable?

    Im not prospect hugging I’m just saying the sentiment on him seems to have changed a bit since he came up and didn’t perform well at times.

  43. McClean & Tong are untouchable for me. Tong is only 22 & pitched amazing in the minors, Mets brought him up too early. Rather just sign Valdez if we need a 30 year old pitcher

  45. “Believed to like Jonah Tong” oh, you mean the the most dominant pitcher in minor league baseball last year at 22 years of age. A rock could have reported this

  47. Some of you don’t actually follow prospects and instead rely on soundbites and others bringing up their names or not to determine how great they are and it really shows. I think Tong has potential, but in MLB’s rankings he wasn’t even in the Mets top 30 up until this year and most sites have him at a future value around 50 which is a league average pitcher. Maybe he can be more than that, but he is in no way a can’t miss prospect and if you can get an established starter who’s under 30 years old in a deal for him, you have to jump on it, especially when that starter could be under control for a couple more seasons. You can’t hug every single prospect when the reality is most of them will end up flaming out.

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