Breaking down Giannis Antetokounmpo to New York Knicks trade rumors | Dan Patrick Show | NBC Sports

Breaking down Giannis Antetokounmpo to New York Knicks trade rumors | Dan Patrick Show | NBC Sports

YORK FOLLOWED BY SAN ANTONIO DOMINATING OKAY, WE BRING IN UH BRIAN WINHAR TO THE MOTHERSHIP ESPN SENIOR NBA WRITER. HOW DID WE GET TO THIS POINT RYAN WITH UH GIANNIS IN THE BUCKS? NOT A 100% SURE WHERE WE ARE. BECAUSE, UM, 1 OF THE THINGS THAT I’VE BEEN TALKING TO LEAGUE EXECUTIVE TYPES ABOUT IN THE LAST 24 HOURS, IS DO WE THINK THAT THIS TIME THE HONEST WILL ACTUALLY GO ALL THE WAY AND AND AND FORMALLY SAY I IT’S TIME TO TRADE ME BECAUSE HE’S RATTLED THE SABER BEFORE AND UM, YOU KNOW, 1 OF THE MORE FASCINATING STORIES THAT CAME OUT OF THIS WHOLE SUMMER AND IT DIDN’T COME OUT IN THE SUMMER. IT CAME OUT IN OCTOBER. AND UM, SHAMIA MY COLLEAGUE AT ESPN, REPORTED IT. BUT IN IN AUGUST BUCKS. DIFFERENT VERBS HERE, AND I’M NOT ANYBODY. BUT HE SHOWED AN INTEREST IN WANTING TO BE ON THE NEW YORK KNICKS AND TO THE POINT WHERE THE TRADE TALKS. AND I KNOW WHAT DOCTOR EVER SAID YESTERDAY SAID THE HONEST DIDN’T ASK TO BE TRADED. THOSE WORDS. I PROMISE YOU THE BUCKS, IT WASN’T THEIR IDEA, OKAY? AND I KNOW THAT IT CAUGHT THE KNICKS BY SURPRISE DAN AND YOU KNOW, HOW I KNOW, BECAUSE LIKE 2 WEEKS BEFORE THEY SIGNED MALE BRIDGES TO A CONTRACT EXTENSION, EXTENSION, NICE 1, UM, AND IT’S NOT THAT THEY WOULDN’T HAVE SIGNED THEM, OR THAT THEY ABSOLUTELY WERE GOING TO TRADE HIM IN THAT TO THAT, YOU CAN’T TRADE HIM FOR 6 MONTHS. SO IF YOU WERE THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE ABOUT TO POTENTIALLY ENTER A VERY IMPORTANT NEGOTIATION, YOU WOULDN’T TAKE 1 OF THOSE GUYS OFF THE TABLE SO I THINK IT CAUGHT THE KNICKS OFF GUARD TOO. AND SO WHAT I THINK HAPPENED WAS IT WAS GIANNIS’S IDEA. NOW YOU CAN BRING PEOPLE ON HERE AND HAVE THEM TESTIFY OR WHATEVER. IT’S FINE, THE TALKS TOOK PLACE, OKAY? AND THE IMPORTANT THING IS BUCKS DID OVER THE SUMMER. WHICH WAS DUE THIS CRAZY MOVE, IT WAS A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR MOVE. THEY CUT DAME, MAKING A HUNDRED MONEY. AND THEN, THEY SIGNED MILE MILES TURNER FOR A 100 MILLION. SO THEY TOOK A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR PROBLEM WHICH WAS A PLAYER IN HIS 30S, RECOVERED FROM ACHILLES AND FOR A MILES TURNER WHO IS A QUALITY PLAYER JUST HELPED THE TEAM TO GET TO THE FINALS. AND EXCELLENT, A NOT A STAR PLAYER. AND THEN HE MOVES. I HAVE SOME INTEREST IN BECOMING A NICK. OKAY, SO THAT SO THAT HAPPENED AND I I OCTOBER. AND AT THAT POINT YIANNIS, THEY HAD SIGNED HIS 2 BROTHERS. YOU KNOW, AND GIANNIS WAS. PLAYING FOR THE BUCS AND EVERYTHING BUT LIKE, THAT WAS A REAL INDICATION OF WHAT YAN WHERE YIANNIS HAD THING. FAMILY MOVED TO GREECE. ABOUT GIANNIS, THE FAMILY IS HIM. IT’S 1 OF THE REASONS WHY THE BUCKS HAVE SIGNED HIS 2 BROTHERS, BECAUSE THEY KNOW HIS FAMILY WITH HIM. THAT HE SENT HIS, AND HE MIGHT HAVE HAD 10 REASONS TO BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE ACTIONS THAT YOU’RE LOOKING AT GOING, YOU KNOW? SO IF SO WHAT THE LEAGUE IS WONDERING IS KNOWING WHAT HAPPENED IN THE SUMMER KNOWING ABOUT THE OTHER STUFF KNOWING THAT THE TEAM IS NOT DOING WELL, ALTHOUGH THEY HAD THEIR BEST WIN OF THE YEAR. LAST NIGHT, THEY BEAT THE THE THE PISTONS WITHOUT GIANNIS. UM WILL GIANNIS ACTUALLY GO FORWARD AND SAY, OKAY, I WANT TO DO BECAUSE I BECAUSE I DON’T THINK THE BUCKS ARE GOING TO GET THERE. DAN, BECAUSE THE BUCKS ARE SO MORTGAGED IN SO DEEPLY INVESTED IN KEEPING HIM AND I ACTUALLY DON’T BLAME THEM. AND SO THAT’S REALLY WHAT. THE QUESTION IS IS IS WILL GIANNIS TAKE THE NEXT STEP, BESIDES THE SABER RATTLING THAT HE’S DONE BEFORE. GOOD QUESTION, KNICKS? KNOW? HE HE REALLY YOU KNOW, IN ALL OF THE IN ALL OF THE DISCUSSIONS FROM GIANNIS AND FROM JOHN HORSE THEIR GENERAL MANAGER AND DOC, NO 1 DEN. THOSE TALKS TOOK PLACE THE KNICKS, CERTAINLY DIDN’T DENY IT. AND UM, LIKE I I THOUGHT I KNOW THAT THEY HAPPENED AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY THAT UM, IF YOU WERE IN A VACUUM CHOOSING WHERE TO GO YOU WOULD WANT TO GO TO THE EASTERN CONFERENCE, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU YOU WE WANT TO STAY EAST. AND SO IF YOU LOOKED AT THE EASTERN CONFERENCE AND YOU SAID WELL, WHERE WOULD I WANT TO BE AS A PLAYER? WHERE DO I THINK? UM I CAN, YOU KNOW, MAKE A BIG IMPACT. WHERE COULD WE WAY LIKE NEW YORK RISES TO THE TOP, YOU CAN MAKE SOME CASES FOR SOME OTHER TEAMS, YOU KNOW, MIAMI FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ATLANTA, UM, MAYBE BOSTON ALL THAT THAT TYPE OF TRADE WOULD BE A LOT MORE COMPLICATED. BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, I COULD SEE HOW, YOU KNOW, TORONTO WOULD BE AS AND IT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING TEAM. NOW, THAT’S ACTUALLY KIND OF AN INTERESTING TEAM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS SEEM TO LIKE TORONTO BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN AUGUST, I THINK NEW YORK MADE SOME SENSE, UM, AND UM, IT MADE OUT OF MADE SOME SENSE FROM WHAT THE KNICKS WERE IN POSITION TO TRADE AT THE TIME. AND I CERTAINLY DON’T THINK THE BUCKS WERE MOTIVATED TO DO IT. LIKE, THEY PROBABLY WANTED EVERYTHING THE KNICKS COULD POSSIBLY OFFER BEFORE THEY WOULD EVEN GET MILDLY INTERESTED. BUT, UM, THAT’S THE OTHER QUESTION IS, IF YIANNIS DOES SO THAT THE, THERE’S REALLY 3 QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED ON MY PHONE FOR THE LAST 24 HOURS. 1 WILL YIANNIS ACTUALLY GO TO THE POINT WHERE HE SAYS, I WANT TO BE TRADED BECAUSE HE HASN’T GOTTEN TO THAT POINT YET OR BEFORE 2. IF HE DOES, GET TRADED, WILL THE LIST BE LONGER THAN THE KNICKS? THEN IT WAS JUST A 1 TEAM THING OVER THE SUMMER AND 3 IF YIANNIS HAS A LIST, LET’S SAY THERE’S 3 TEAMS. LET’S SAY THERE’S 6 TEAMS, WHATEVER. DO THE BUCKS HAVE TO YOU’LL DO BUSINESS WITH JUST HIS LIST BECAUSE HE DOES HAVE 1 YEAR LEFT ON HIS CONTRACT PLUS A PLAYER OPTION. SO, NEXT YEAR, YOU’D BE FACED WITH HAVING GIANNIS IN A WOK HERE. SO, TYPICALLY IN THAT SITUATION YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE TRADING FOR A GUY, YOU’D WANT TO KNOW HE IS STAYING, ESPECIALLY IF YOU’RE GIVEN A LOT OF STUFF FOR HIM. BUT IT’S FUNNY DAN IS, I’VE LEAGUE. PEOPLE DON’T NECESSARILY THINK THAT WOULD NECESSARILY BE TRUE WITH YIANNIS. SO I’M I’M NOT SURE BUT THOSE ARE THE 3 QUESTIONS IN THE TOPICS THAT ARE GOING AROUND THE LEAGUE RIGHT NOW. UH, I’M GUESSING BRUNSON WOULD BE OFF LIMITS WITH THE KNICKS THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY GUY THAT’D BE OFF LIMITS. I WOULD ADVISE THEM. I HAVEN’T I DON’T HAVE INSIGHT, I DON’T HAVE INSIGHT ON THAT BUT I WOULD. SO THE THE CHALLENGE WITH THE NYX IS THEY REALLY DON’T HAVE MEANINGFUL DRAFT ASSETS. TO GIVE UM, SOME OF THESE OTHER TEAMS, WE COULD MENTION HAVE THEIR OWN DRAFT PICKS, AND OTHER TEAMS DRAFT PICKS THAT THEY CAN OFFER, UM, THE KNICKS DON’T HAVE DRAFT PICKS SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE IT A PLAYER BASED TRADE. AND HERE’S THE THING ABOUT THE BUCKS. IT’S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE BUCKS. AND THIS IS THIS SORT OF BACKS UP, WHY THEY’VE DOUBLED TRIPLED QUADRUPLE DOWN. THEY DON’T CONTROL. I THINK THEIR NEXT 3 OR 4 DRAFTS, THEY’VE EITHER TRADED THE PICK AWAY OR THEY’VE TRADED THE SWAP AWAY. CERTAINLY THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR, I KNOW FOR SURE I THINK EVEN 282. AND SO WHEN YOU’RE IN THAT POSITION, YOU REALLY CAN’T ENTER INTO A TRADE THINKING. BECAUSE YOU DON’T CONTROL YOUR PICK. UM, AND THERE’S A FEW TEAMS IN THE NBA RIGHT NOW WHO ARE IN BAD SHAPE, WHO DON’T CONTROL THEIR PICK AND THEY’RE IN HELL. UM, AND SO MILWAUKEE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE IF THEY, YOU KNOW, MILWAUKEE’S PROBABLY DOESN’T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN AT ALL, BUT IF THEY GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY HAVE TO TRADE THEM, THEY’RE PROBABLY GOING TO LOOK TO MAKE A PLAYER BASE TRADE UH OR THE DRAFT TASK. THAT’S THAT THEY’RE ARE GOING TO BE THIRD-PARTY TEAMS. IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU DO A TEAM WITH, IF YOU DO A DEAL WITH THE TEAM THAT YOU’RE TRADING GIANNIS TO AND YOU’RE GETTING THEIR PICKS FOR THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS, THAT’S NOT THAT EXCITING BECAUSE THAT TEAMS TYPICALLY GOING TO BE A THIRD TEAMS PICK. YEAH, YOU’D BE INTERESTED IN THAT SO THAT IT DOESN’T RELY ON YOUR PERFORMANCE OR THAT TEAM WITH GIANNIS’S PERFORMANCE BUT NOW YOU’RE THREADING, A NEEDLE. SO THAT’S ANOTHER REASON WHY NEW YORK WOULD MAKE SOME SENSE. THEY HAVE SOME PLAYERS THAT THE THAT THE BUCKS COULD GET THAT WOULD HELP THEM RETROFIT THEIR TEAM RIGHT NOW. YOU’RE TALKING TO BRIAN WINDHORSE, DPN SENIOR, NBA WRITER, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE CHRIS, PAUL SITUATION OF WHY IT HAD TO HAPPEN ON THE ROAD IN ATLANTA. THAT SEEMS CRAZY YOU KNOW AND 1 OF THE THINGS THAT LAWRENCE FRANK. SO FIRST OFF, LAWRENCE. FRANK HAD THIS PRESS CONFERENCE YESTERDAY, THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE PRESIDENT AND I THINK IT’S THE PRESIDENT IS AND FIRST OFF, HE SAID, PUT ALL THE BLAME ON ME. MAYBE LAWRENCE WANTED TO DO IT BUT I PROMISE YOU, IT WAS NOT UM, DOING IT THE WAY THEY DID IT, HE HE SAID THAT THEY MADE THE DECISION ON SUNDAY DAN LET’S JUST JUST THAT FOR THE TRUTH. WHY WAS HE IN MIAMI ON MONDAY? THEY’RE STARTING A A LONG ROAD TRIP. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, LAWRENCE EXPLAINED THAT THE REASON THIS HAPPENED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WAS BECAUSE THEIR FLIGHT WAS DELAYED BY 5 HOURS, WHICH IT WAS THEY DIDN’T LAND IN ATLANTA AIRPORT UNTIL 9:30. YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT IS TO GET FROM ATLANTA AIRPORT TO DOWNTOWN. 5 MINUTES, THEY MET AT 11 OCLOCK IN THE MEETING WITH SEVERAL HOURS. SO WHY DO YOU DO IT AT 11 OCLOCK? YOU KNOW, I DON’T YOU KNOW, SO LIKE THE ACTUAL FUNCTIONALITY OF THE WAY THEY HANDLED IT IS WRETCHED UM, THE DECISION YOU’VE BEEN AROUND SPORTS. FOR A LONG TIME WHEN YOU HAVE A PLAYER WHO WAS VERY VOCAL, WHO ALL OF A SUDDEN HAS A SMALL ROLE UM, CHRIS WORK. WHOLE CAREER. HE’S BEEN VERY VOCAL. HE’S BEEN VOCAL WITH THE OFFICIALS. HE’S BEEN VOCAL WITH HIS COACH, THE OPPOSING COACH. HE’S BEEN VOCAL WITH THE OPPOSING STAR PLAYER WITH HIS STAR PLAYER WITH HIS ROLE PLAYERS. IMAGINE WHAT HE SAYS OFF THE COURT, YOU CAN JUST SEE WHAT HE SAYS ON THE COURT AND WHEN YOU’RE THE STAR PLAYER, THEN THE POINT GUARD AND YOU’RE PLAYING ALL 82 GAMES AND YOUR TEAM IS COMPETING FOR CONFERENCE TITLES OR WHATEVER THAT’S 1 THING WHEN YOU’RE DOING THAT AND THE TEAM IS SINKING AND YOU ARE OF A MUCH SMALLER ROLE, IT DOESN’T WORK. I I, I KNEW THIS 20 YEARS AGO, WHEN I STARTED THE CLASSIC. CASE SITUATION AND YOU COULD SAY WELL THEN WHY DID THE CLIPPERS BRING HIM IN KNOWING THAT HE WOULD HAVE A SMALL ROLE AND THAT THIS WAS POSSIBLE? THAT’S FAIR. AND I WOULD JUST SAY THAT OF THE CLIPPERS MISCALCULATIONS THIS SEASON. IT’S ON THE LIST BUT THERE’S A LONG LIST OF CLIPPERS MISCALCULATIONS SO FAR. WHEN DO YOU FEEL LIKE WE’LL GET A TRUE SENSE OF LEBRON’S ROLE WITH THE LAKERS? IF IS HE A THIRD OPTION? NOW, UM, AND YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE FUTURE OF, HOW LONG DOES HE WANT TO PLAY? FEEL LIKE HE CAN PLAY AND BEING A, MAYBE A THIRD OPTION FOR THE LAKERS AND WHAT ROLE THAT PLAYS? IT’S AN INTERESTING SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT’S HAPPENED BECAUSE I THOUGHT LEBRON WAS AWESOME LAST YEAR. HE WAS SECOND TEAM, ALL MBA. UM, I THOUGHT HE LOOKED GREAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE LAKERS HAD A DISAPPOINTING END TO THE SEASON, THERE WAS A BAD MATCHUP FOR THEM WITH MINNESOTA, UM, BUT I THOUGHT THAT THEY REALLY ACHIEVED IN THE REGULAR SEASON, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT THE 3 SEED, I MEAN, I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 3 AND THE 6 WAS REALLY TIGHT, BUT THEY GOT IT. UM, AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WERE SAYING TO ME. WHY DO YOU THINK THIS IS IT FOR LEBRON? AND I’M LIKE, NO, LIKE LOOK AT HIM. HE’S STILL 1 OF THE TOP 10, 15 PLAYERS IN THE LEAGUE AND THEN A COUPLE OF THINGS HAPPENED. FIRST OFF, HE HAD 2 INJURIES DAN SO HE SPRAINED HIS KNEE IN THE LAST PLAYOFF GAME AGAINST THE THE WOLVES. IN FACT, HAD THEY EXTENDED THAT SERIES I DON’T KNOW IF HE COULD HAVE PLAYED, HE MISSED TRAINING, HE WAS OUT FOR WEEKS. HE HAD, YOU KNOW HE’S NEVER MISSED A PLAYOFF GAME IN ALL, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS IN THE PLAYOFFS. HE’S NEVER MISSED A PLAYOFF GAME. I’M NOT SURE EVEN IN THE MIDDLE OF PLAY IN THE SO HE HAD THIS KNEE INJURY, THEN HE HITS THE SCIATICA SO HE HAS THE MOST INJURED OFFSEASON HE’S EVER HAD WHICH MAYBE ISN’T A SURPRISE AT AGE 40 BUT ALSO, SO, GET. WAS ALREADY HAVING A GREAT SEASON, LEBRON PLAYED WELL WHEN LUCA AFTER LUCA GOT THERE BUT THE LUCA THING HAPPENS THEN HE HAS THE INJURIES. OKAY? SO THESE ARE 2 THINGS THAT WE’VE NEVER SEEN. WE’VE NEVER SEEN HIM, NOT BE THE A1A GUY, ON HIS TEAM. WE’VE NEVER SEEN HIM HAVE OFFSEASON INJURIES BEFORE. THEN HIS TEAM WITHOUT HIM PLAYS REALLY, REALLY WELL. MAYBE HIS TEAM HAS BEEN ABLE TO KEEP THEIR NOSE ABOVE WATER. WHEN HE’S BEEN OUT WHETHER IT’S BEEN FOR, YOU KNOW, A WEEK OR A MONTH THEY’VE NEVER ACHIEVED. YOU’VE NEVER LOOKED AT A TEAM THAT THAT HAS MISSED LEBRON FOR MULTIPLE GAMES AND GONE, MAN, THEY’RE DOING GREAT AND AUSTIN REEVES TO HAVING A CAREER YEAR. SO, YOU’VE GOT THIS SERIES OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT HE’S NEVER EXPERIENCED BEFORE. NOT TO MENTION, NOT GETTING ABLE TO START A SEASON, NOT HAVING TO HAVE A TRAINING CAMP. SO, WE ARE IN COMPLETELY UNKNOWN TERRITORY FOR HIM. IT WOULD BE UNKNOWN TERRITORY. IF ANY 1 OF THOSE THINGS WAS TRUE, TRUE AND BY THE WAY, HE REJOINS THE TEAM, AS THE NUMBER 1 SCORE IN THE HISTORY OF THE LEAGUE. WHERE THE 2 GUYS ON HIS TEAM ARE IN THE TOP 10 IN SCORING REEVES, AND, AND LUCA ARE, LIKE, 1 IN 9. I DON’T KNOW, HAVEN’T CHECKED IT HAS DROPPED A LITTLE BIT, BUT THEY WERE 1 IN 8. SO YOU’RE ASKING YOU’RE THIS IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITUATION HE’S EVER DONE AND THE TEAM’S WINNING, YOU KNOW, YOU’RE NOT COMING IN AND BOY THE TEAM STRUGGLING AND NOW YOU GET. SO I THINK HE IS ABSOLUTELY. IN A LITTLE BIT OF THE DEEP END OF THE POOL THAT HE’S NEVER BEEN IN BEFORE. I MEAN, HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE LEBRON’S BEEN IN A SITUATION BUT MASTERED. SO, THIS IS AWKWARD YOU KNOW, THE OTHER NIGHT IN THAT GAME WAS REALLY A GAME WHERE I I REALLY LOOKED THOUGHT LEBRON LOOKED LIKE AN OLDER PLAYER FOR THE FIRST TIME WHERE HE HE WASN’T GETTING LIFT. I MEAN REBOUNDS, NO STEALS, NO BLOCKS. THAT’S NEVER HAPPENED. IN 23 YEARS, THOUSANDS OF GAMES. SO, RELEVANT QUESTION. I DON’T THINK ANYBODY KNOWS. I THINK HE’S GOING THROUGH THIS DAY-TO-DAY TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. WOULD YOU BE MORE SURPRISED IF HE PLAYED ANOTHER YEAR OR YEAR? I AM, I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, EVEN AS RECENTLY AS LAST SPRING HE HAS YEARS LEFT. I WAS NOT ENTERTAINING THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE IT, REGARDLESS OF THE CONTRACT WHICH AS THAT’S ALSO SOMETHING HE’S IT’S NOT REALLY RELEVANT. I DON’T THINK THAT’S AFFECTING HIS DAY-TO-DAY. UM NOW I’M JUST I’M I’M JUST IN THE MIDDLE OF, I DON’T KNOW. AND I KNOW IT’S AN UNSATISFACTORY ANSWER AND I THINK LEBRON IS PRETTY MUCH SAID THE SAME THING. HE SAID, I DON’T KNOW, I THINK RICH PAUL HIS AGENT HAS SAID, I DON’T KNOW, I DON’T KNOW. BUT THAT’S UH, THAT’S A DEPARTURE FROM ME BECAUSE I WAS IN THE CAMP OF THIS GUY. COULD TOM BRADY AT LIKE I I MEAN I AND HE STILL COULD TOM BRADY IT. UM, BUT IF YOU WATCHED HIM PLAY LAST YEAR, THERE’S NO WAY YOU SAID THAT’S A GUY ABOUT TO WENDY, THANK YOU. I KNOW YOU’RE BUSY. THANKS FOR JOINING US. THANKS DAN. HAVE A GOOD

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