BLACKHAWKS POSTGAME: Spencer Knight & Chicago SHUT OUT By Los Angeles Kings | CHGO Blackhawks

BLACKHAWKS POSTGAME: Spencer Knight & Chicago SHUT OUT By Los Angeles Kings | CHGO Blackhawks

the Blackhawks lost chat. We are contractually obligated to talk about it, so we’re going to. So, join us next on CHO Blackhawks. Yeah. Happy Saturday night. Welcome in to the CHGO Blackhawks postgame show presented by Bed 365. Download the Bed 365 app. Use our code cho365 when you sign up. Whatever the moment, it’s never ordinary at bat 365. The Blackhawks lost tonight 6 nothing to the LA Kings. And you know what? If I could fart into this microphone, I would. You could try. No, it’s not sanitary. It’s better than that. But that’s that’s how this game felt. That’s how this game felt. I just uh This game doesn’t deserve the smelling sauce. Everyone uh clout wants me to get mad. I’m not I’m not mad. I some mad J flip the table. Sometimes games like this happen and I don’t know the first period they played really well. They were in control of the game and then came out in a second flat as always and it’s been an issue that they’ve had um all season long. They’ve got to get that fixed and then you know once it’s 3 nothing it just it got away from them. Nothing was working for them tonight. Every pass was a little bit off. uh you know shots that good scoring chances were shot wide. They turned a puck over too many times. Just the intensity we’re used to seeing from the Blackhawks was not there for the last 40 minutes. Kelly Chelio said after the second they just looked tired. They did look tired. They shouldn’t be tired. They are pro aletes. They should not be tired. But to me, this is one of those games where you say two nothing, 6 nothing. It didn’t matter. They just did not have their agame tonight. the LA Kings when they get a lead, it’s shut down. And I think this is one of the things that I want to see the Hawks learn is like you’ve got to keep sticking to your structure even when things are not going well. You cannot get flustered because you’re down two nothing or three nothing because what the Hawks do in that situation is they over complicate. they then which has already been a problem of theirs where they’re over where they try to be too cute extra pass here or there even when things are going well when they’re losing it’s even more amplified and every shot attempt is three or four extra passes it’s okay it’s going to be fine it’s a young team there’s nothing to be I mean is it frustrating as hell yes but this is not a game where I’m going to lose my crap over it’s it it would not be genuine and it’s not I don’t think it’s needed it’s just one of those nights I I was angry with the Buffalo loss the 9-3 game. Yeah, this one I’m I’m disappointed in the uh the execution. Um but I’m not angry in the grand scheme of things. You’ve gone, you know, aggregate score, you lost 72 to the Kings over two games, but you went one and one. Yeah. Like that’s for for a Kings team that is still a playoff caliber team and we talked about it in the pregame like they are a structured team. They are a hard team to play against. Um they stayed within it and like you said like when the Hawks are trying to chase a game against a team like the Kings like it’s it’s almost like um you know like a counter puncher in boxing. Like what made Floyd Mayweather so good is that you couldn’t hit him. So then you got mad that you couldn’t hit him. So you tried to hit him more and then he was able to slip and and score and knock, you know, not knock guys out, but you know, win boxing matches that way. And the K and the Kings were able to do that tonight. Every time the Hawks got some momentum, which was rare tonight, but when they strung some good plays together, the Kings were there to play defense and and counterattack off of it. And you know, the the the second and third period, the floodgates just opened. for for a team like the Kings like they were they’ve been the storyline has been their their lack of goals, their lack of scoring uh offensively, but they’re still talented enough that like once they can feel like they can get into the flow of a game and get things going, they can stack goals. And obviously that’s what happened tonight. And Darren Pang said it on the broadcast like this was a Kings team playing playoff hockey and the Blackhawks like they’re they’re in the playoff picture. They’re in the hunt. Um, but this is a this is a lesson in what playoff hockey is is going to be like and when this team when they are playing games that matter down the stretch this season games late February, March, April that, you know, I I think we’ve been hoping for them to do and what looks like they’re on track to do. That’s what these games are going to feel like. So, we we’ve heard the we’ve heard the um from Jeff Blash the idea like, okay, if you don’t have your A game, you need to be able to win with your B game or at least be competitive. Like, this was a game where too many guys didn’t have their AAME and the B game wasn’t good enough. And that’s that’s something that you’re going to have to with a young team like this, that BAME effort is something that those guys are going to have to figure out how to at least make the most out of if if you’re not going um with your best game. Well, look, this is a we knew that this season when the Hawks decided to go very young um and maybe even younger as the season goes on, there were going to be games where hard lessons were learned and I think this is one of them. And they’ve they have had this lesson a handful of times this year. And look, we saw it in the 2-1 win over the Kings where every now and again the Hawks would just completely lose their structure. And Spencer Knight in that game was able to bail them out. He was able to make impossible saves that he probably shouldn’t have made to keep them ahead in the game and to get the win. But you just these are the expected lessons for a young team and the fact that regardless of tonight’s result um they’re still in playoff position as of this moment um they are overachieving everyone’s expectation um and I think you know you could look at the final score and I’m sure there will be the athletic power ranking people that will circle this one and highlight and said see we told you so we told you so but if you watch the first 20 minutes of this game, you saw a Blackhawks team that was firmly in control. They just weren’t able to get a lead. And by the way, let’s give a little bit of credit here to Darcy Keer, who’s been who is awesome really in both games against the Hawks. He was outstanding. And then the Kings, you said it during the game, once they got the lead, once it’s two nothing, it is shut down. They are shutting that crap down. You are not getting a chance. They don’t care if they’re boring. They want points. They weren’t boring tonight, but they’re just they were incredibly well structured. Every lane was jam I said to you during the game, every time I feel like the puck’s going to go the Hawks way, like, oh, they might have a breakout here, there’s a King standing there in perfect position, veteran team, disciplined team with a winning pedigree in their recent past. Not Stanley Cups in a recent past, but they’ve been a good playoff team for the last couple years. That’s the difference between veteran discipline and young team learning. But right now, I think if these two teams played a seven game series, it would probably go six or seven because I think they’re they’re pretty well matched up. Good job, everybody. They’re pretty well I think they’re they’re pretty even despite the score of this game. We’ve seen them play even most of the time. Yeah, I I I think I the the series scheduling that this little mini two two game series was um I mean you could you could see this like you said you could see these two teams kind of flowing back and forth and um you know when you have a when you have a setup like this where it’s two games against the same opponent the team that loses has something to prove in the next game and has something has more to work on than the team that wins. Even though, you know, the Blackhawks won the game and and played essentially the same lineup minus Tavo, like there wasn’t really much for them to change where the Kings like they could go right back to the drawing board and be like, “This is exactly what we need to change.” Yeah. And I think that I think that’s probably plays a factor in in the execution tonight. Um, now could that be something on the coaching staff? Maybe. But I think when you when you’re coming off a win, you don’t really think that you have to change much. Um, and I I I think if I think if these teams were to line up for a couple more games, the the games three and four or whatever, they would they would look different in in each game. But I I think tonight like you you kind of get you get roughed up like honestly you get roughed up um by the Kings and you have the backtobacks now. Now you now now it’s not like you know as you were mentioning Kaylee said on the broadcast like oh they look tired. Well okay well you got a game tomorrow. This is technically night one of backtobacks now. Even though you played the same team twice in a row there was a day off in between. Um, so going hours to your next game, going from LA to Anaheim is not a ton of travel. Um, but it is still two games in a row. So, they’re going to really have to find their legs uh for that Ducks game because that’s going to be a Ducks team that is extremely motivated given the last time that these two teams played and how things played out. Yeah. And I I think the Hawks will be motivated to bounce back from this performance. And there have been a few times this year where they’ve had really bad games. And I’m trying to think back to the schedule after that Buffalo game. We kind of were like, is this going to is this going to completely sink the Hawks schedule after the Buffalo game? Wasn’t the next game the ABS game? I’m looking right now. I want to make sure. I think that ABS game was like close to Can you just NHL.com, can you just give me a list of the schedule? I don’t need to go month by month. No one wants this, bro. Oh my god, it’s so annoying. It’s just so hard to find anything on NHL.com. Uh yes, the game after the Buffalo game was the was the uh Colorado game. Yes. So a good bounce back after a putrid performance. No, they had a day in between, but it wasn’t like it was two or three days in between to, you know, go fix everything. And that ABS game was at home, too. Yeah. I I look, I I expect a better I expect a better performing. I look, I better be. It better be. Yeah. But they they got to be ready to go tomorrow. One of the benefits of being a young team is that it doesn’t take them as long to bounce back after a grueling game where you got your ass kicked. They they should be able to find the energy for tomorrow. Hopefully Tavot Terra mining can go which will be helpful. Um look to me this is one you just ball it up, throw it away. Um but I mean I think you still you still take away you still take away lessons from it. like you can’t you can’t just completely wipe it and say nope just a just a flush a flush thing but I think there’s there’s some lessons to learn from it and and for me the biggest takeaway is just you I know we’ve kind of touched on it but like not being too cute and I think when you try and get too cute I think you you you string together too many plays where you’re missing passes and you’re not playing enough north south um hockey and and in a game like this, like that’s when you have to get back down to basics and simplifying things and when you’re having a rough night stringing together passes and and getting possession. Um, you just have to get get down to to simplifying it, especially against a Kings team when they’re playing structured like this, you have to simplify it. Uh, and I just I I I feel like they didn’t get down to that. And then when they’re chasing the game, it’s it’s hard it’s hard to to to fight back like that. Darren Pang said there were two things he wants to take away from this game at the end. He said the entries on the power play have to be better. This has been something we’ve been putrid putrid tonight. Not be worrying about but complaining about all season is even though the power play is like 28%. Over the last little bit here it’s been doing really really well. It’s been converting. You have to adapt your game to the opponent. I know you’re like we play our system. We that’s what we do. But you’re not going to be able to weave through, you know, four LA Kings. It’s just not going to happen. Um, so you’ve got to be able to adjust. And today I saw a frustrating level of commitment to just not carrying the puck into the zone. The couple times they did, they got set up and they generated some nice I think it was that first power play where uh Bard was uh Bertusi tried to hit Bard on the doorstep. Yeah. And it just kind of fluttered away. They had a couple nice looks there. Shots wide. Once they get set up, the power play looks really, really good because you’ve got Lev who’s really good holding the puck in the zone and you’ve got Bertusi who’s awesome in front and obviously with Bard shot and vision and everything. It works. The power play works, but it just hasn’t gotten set up. And I know I we’re up against the break zone here, but I want to definitely talk spend some time talking about Sam Renzel because I think we are at a bit of a crossroads with Sam here. Uh the minutes are way down. Um the performance not great. Um so not to overreact to one loss, but I think we have a a little bit of a sample size here in a row where we need to have a conversation about Samarzel and we’re going to uh make sure you get your votes in for our game pucks today. I voted for Oliver Moore who I just thought was shot out of a cannon the entire night. Uh no one was really great, but that was a guy I saw engaged for 60 minutes really even late in the game. down five, down six, crashing into corners, trying to steal pucks, trying to do whatever he could to make things happen. Had a couple nice offensive looks as well. So, Oliver Moore gets my vote for game pucks. I went with Louis Creier because he was the least bad, I think, of the defenseman tonight. uh and had a couple uh when when the offense wasn’t getting generated, the simplest thing as I was just talking about was just fire the puck on net with traffic and it seemed like he had that mentality even though not a lot of them got to the net, but you’re trying and and you’re trying to to to play it simply that way. So, uh I went to Louis Creier. All right, get your votes. In a six nothing game where you lose, there’s not a lot of options. No, there are not. Yeah. Uh, so get your votes in. We’ll reveal the winner at the end of the show. We are going to the break zone. Before we do, hit the like button. Make sure you’re subscribed. We’ll talk to you in two minutes on CHGO Blackhawks. Whatever the moment, it’s never ordinary at bet 365. And new customers now get $150 in bonus bets when they bet five, win or lose. lo and with their football early payout offer. 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You’re going to need your furnace. Temperature is low. Checked. And I think Are we Is it going to be It’s going to be really cold soon. I think I saw that. I mean, it’s been really cold last, but I mean like really really like go start your car a couple times a day cold. Either way, if it’s not soon, it’s going to happen eventually. So, make sure you get that taken care of and visit our friends at Four Seasons to do so. Warm up. They will get you squared away for sure. Visit Four Seasons Heatingcooling.com for all their special offers and money-saving coupons. That’s four seasonasons heatingcooling.com. Uh, taking a temp. A lot of our chat is talking about Samronzel. And, uh, Scott Powers had a note that through the first two periods, he played about seven minutes. Minutes went up uh into third. And I don’t know if that was like a well it’s 5 nothing so but he ended 1240 of ice time minus two. Some are advocating for him to get sent down. I don’t know if we’re there yet. I think we’re just knowing what we know about Jeff Flash through however many games we’re through now. Um I would imagine he will sit for a game sit tomorrow maybe. I mean, but the problem is if Tavo is not available tomorrow, then Slaggerton, then do you have Slagert and Laughy in and Renzel sits? Yeah. I mean, sure. At this point, I I think if you’re if you want to play that card again, the sc the scratch card for Renzel, I’m fine with that. Um I think what was this game? 29. I I think we’re we’re getting to a point where if you’re only playing him 12 minutes, uh if that um what’s what is what is his benefit at this point doing it here? Um might as well I think if you’re trying to build him back up um might as well play the the the Rockford card. I I wouldn’t I wouldn’t hate that at this point. I know none of us thought we’d get to that point because I think we were really sold on what Renzel showed his final year of college at Minnesota last year. What he showed in the first uh nine games of uh of his career at the end of last season. I think we were all really like encouraged and positive and and he had a you know he had a good training camp, good good uh preeason and came into the season looking you know pretty solid. We thought it was going to kind of continue what he rolled uh over from the end of last season to the beginning of this year, but it’s just kind of fallen off uh as the season has gone incrementally and that’s what happens with young defenseman like they’re going to have ups and downs. Um, but I think when it starts to kind of compound down game after down game after down game, he’s getting effectively benched in the third period against was that the Vegas game I think it was. Um, last last game like similar situation this game if they weren’t down four, five, six nothing in the third period, he probably wouldn’t have been getting the more important minutes uh if the game was closer. So I think if I I think if you get to a point where you’re doing that with a player, even considering you’re playing seven defenseman so you can rotate those guys and use him effectively. I just don’t know how much how much more he’s getting out of that being used that way rather than going down to Rockford playing power play, top power play, uh maybe getting penalty kill opportunities and playing 20 minutes. like I I I think that can’t hurt him at this at at this stage of the game. Um and I mean you’d have to then call up a defenseman which is probably Kevin Cchinsky. Yeah. I’m ready for it. And then do you play him? Sure. Do you And you put him on power play too and make him your power play quarterback and see what he can do. Yeah. I mean I mean I’m I’m I’m not if if that’s the switch I’m I’m totally fine with it. Yeah, I’m look I’m I’m not insisting on it. I think that I trust this coaching staff in front office to have a pretty good feel for what their players are going through and where they’re at mentally. Um but if they said tomorrow we have called Kevin Cortinsky up and sent Samron down, it wouldn’t shock me in the least. And I know I I reference this all the time, but it’s a it is a conversation that has stuck with me for years is that uh I was talking to a scout years ago and it was actually about Kevin Kinsky and I’m like, you know, he this is in his rookie year. I’m like, he doesn’t really look bad, but you’re we’re not seeing the flashes of anything. And and basically what they said was defenseman, young defenseman are just hanging on for dear life. And while they might look very calm above the surface, underneath it’s like duck feet, right? like just kicking wildly, just trying to stay afloat. And I’m somewhat concerned that we have reached that place with Samarzel right now. And look, the best thing you can do to get a young guy going is to look, sending him down feels like an feels like a punishment, right? And I can see how Renzel might take that, but you’re going to be the number one defenseman down there. You’re going to start feeling confident again. Like you said, all the minutes played, power play, penalty kill, rebuild that confidence, rebuild that base with lower stakes, right? We want Rockford to win every night. Rockford wants to win every night, but if Rockford goes on a fivegame losing streak, it’s not really the end of the world because Rockford is there to develop players. And I think Samzel can be told very, very simply, look, if they decide to send him down, don’t think of this as a punishment. You didn’t do anything wrong. We just want to get you back to where you were at the end of last year when people were talking about you as like you’re never playing in Rockford again. You’re going to be a Calder Trophy nominee. All these things that was there. We’ve all seen that. Jeff Flashel has said it over and over again that Sam Renzel has been a great defenseman in the NHL before. We’ve seen it. It’s happened. It’s been there. Sure. Was it a small sample size? Of course, because he’s a rookie, right? But it was there. We saw it with our own eyes. It’s in there. Maybe the best thing for Renzel is to go down to Rockford at worst or at best worst, whatever you want to say. Giving him a night off might be a really good thing for him just to Yeah. Deep breath. Things not been going great. Let’s just pump the brakes. Take a look for an press box. But I look and at some point too, I think you do owe Kevin Cinsky an opportunity and this could be your chance to say, “Look, Sam, your minutes are down. Kchinski is doing really well in Rockford. We’re going to use this as an opportunity to get him back up here. See what he can do. Trust us, you’re coming back. You are big time in our future plans. We see you as a franchise defenseman on this organization. So, it’s fine. Duncan Keith did it. Brent Cbrook did it. Myriad defenseman have played in the American Hockey League and gone on to great careers. So, I don’t think there’s anything to worry about if Renzel goes down. I don’t. Now, if he goes on Rockford and is terrible, which will not happen, then you have a reason for concern. But look, he’s he is already ahead of schedule. I don’t think anyone thought the day he was drafted that he’d be right out of college in the NHL on the top power play for the start of the season, second power play late. No one foresaw that. So, a little bit of a blip. Yeah. For a young defenseman, fine. when he was when he was drafted, it was like, oh, three or four years before you’re even talking about him playing pro, right? And how he developed uh and how he played at Minnesota fasttracked all that. So, yeah, this is this is still part of the learning curve. And no, I you can’t look at, especially with the the way the Blackhawks have operated with the Rockford Icehogs in recent years, um especially since Kyle Davidson took over as GM. You don’t you can’t look at um being sent down to Rockford as as punishment. Like it’s there for a reason. It’s there for the the purpose of development and and fine-tune tuning things so that you can get back up to the NHL. um where a lot, you know, a lot of the guys that we that we talk about um needing th that time. They need it for a reason. They need it so they can unlock what they can be at the NHL level. And Sam Renzel can do that. Um and he doesn’t have to look far to find examples of it working with this organization. Alex Vacic did it. Ardam Levchenov was back was down in Rockford. Did a little bit of back and forth. Wyatt Kaiser was down in Rockford did a little bit of back and forth. like Del Mastro, Allen, Kchinsky have all been in the NHL and AHL and have developed their games and and grown and some have come back up and been better players. Look at Wyatt Kaiser. Like he bounced back and forth a number of times and then the next time he came up in the NHL, he played like 50 games straight. Yeah. And and has maybe their most consistent defenseman. Yeah. Has been one of their really reliable defenseman all season. So, um, Crevier again, another guy back and forth. Is he the seventh defenseman on this team as we went into the season? He’s been one of the most reliable and most used defenseman. So, it it’s not that you go down to the AHL and you fall to the pit of obscurity. No, you go down to the AHL and you work on games with an eye on coming back up to the NHL because that’s that’s a realistic possibility. It’s not the old uh system of, you know, you go down to Rockford and uhoh, like what’s wrong with you? Like, no. Like, there’s reasons that you can go down and and fine-tune things. So, if that’s the if that’s the move that they make with Renzel, I’m I’m completely fine with it. Um because it’s it it can it can be really uh it can be really beneficial. And then yeah, I I think if if you want to give an opportunity to Kevin Kchinsky uh in that in that same role, um completely fine. You bring him up and play him and you just keep rolling the 11 and seven that you’ve been used to. You don’t really have to change much. Um other than the fact that he plays on the left side where Renzel’s a right side guy. Um but even then I I I think that’s one of the minorest of changes that you’d have to make to the defensive rotation. Yeah, I Yeah, it’s I don’t know. It’s not it’s doesn’t seem like brain surgery at this point. Just look at the way it’s going and make it make an educated decision. I you know it’s Yeah. And I know Blashel said I don’t want to rush anything. I don’t want to you know make any one of the lessons I learned in Detroit was over adjusting to or overreacting to a bad game or a bad stretch. I I think we’ve got enough evidence here. And a couple things I want to sort out in the uh because of course anytime there’s a loss, people are freaking out. Um talking about the Hawks power play and it not working. The Hawks have a top 10 power play in the league. The zone entries are bad. They’ve got to get better, but it is a successful power play. Um and I think Ardam Lechinov, despite the occasional adventure, has been really really solid this year. Um I I trust him in the role that he’s in on the power play. And I think those disastrous moments from him have become way less frequent. Um, yeah. So, look, for a 20-year-old kid on power play one, I don’t think he’s the problem with the power play. Now, the the the drop pass thing tonight was bad from everybody. Um, but I think he’s even gotten a little better at that. He’s used a little more context in that decision, whereas early in year, we would see him just full speed go to center ice and then just stop and then wait to give it to somebody. Well, he was almost at the blue line tonight and the offensive blue line and turning and dropping it back and I I losing my mind over that stuff, especially when when the power play entries um were what they were tonight. It just felt like they were just banging their head against the wall, hoping that the wall got softer first. You just got to try something different. Yeah. If if if what you’re conditioned to use as your entry system isn’t working, try the try the opposite. Try a dump and chase. Try carrying it when you have speed and you’re carrying it up up through the neutral zone. Don’t stop your momentum. Just take it in. Be the guy that can can control the puck. Art Lechnov is an offensive minded defenseman. He’s offensively gifted. He can handle the puck and skate well. like we saw it a number of times in the first period where he uh made a great uh breakout of the defensive zone and kept going and got a twoon-one chance. Like he’s an offensive guy. Like I I I I know that they have their system and they have their structure for zone entries. I just wish it wasn’t robotically programmed for some of these guys because when you the three power plays tonight, zero zero shots on goal in the power play. That can’t happen. That can’t happen. You can’t have 6 minutes of an advantage and not get anything for it. And the Kings got a shot on goal while short-handed tonight. Like that was a hell of a shot, too. Yeah, that cannot happen. Um for for a team that has a a top 10 power play in the league, ninth in the league going into tonight’s game. Uh and when you’re fumbling half of your power play time trying to just get into the zone, they got the first up. They got set up with a with a minute and three left on a power play is the first time they had the puck in the zone. Yeah, that that can’t happen. I think what you’re seeing like the indecision from left and Renzel too, it is we are being coached to do this and so I have been told I carry the puck up and I drop it back to the forward coming Bard or we saw Ryan Green do it a couple times today. It’s different people all the time. So, that’s what I’m going to do. This is what I was coached to do. I’m going to do it. I am very literal because I am young and I want to do the right thing and I don’t want to piss the coaches off. It’s gotten a little It’s gotten better from everybody Lefchov and Renzel, but like it still can be a little too literal for me. But look, again, they’ve got a top 10 power play. They’re in a playoff position. There’s no need to completely toss this entire season out because of a loss to the Kings. There’s just not. So, take a deep breath. Hit that like button. 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And coaches, they have a great uh offer going on right now. You can sign up and get your first six months completely free to try it out, grow your coaching profile, and find the next athletes you’re going to take to the top. All right, we’re back and Jeff Flashel is standing by waiting for us to go to him. So, let’s go right to him courtesy of the Chicago Blackhawks. Out to Jeff in the field. Talk about it. This is an everyday league. Is this kind of game a reminder of that? Yeah. And I think, you know, I mean, if you really look at the game, I I actually thought we came out played really good in the first and uh you know, but didn’t get rewarded. You know, we had the two-on-one with Dono, had some other almost like probably close looks. I would give them credit because as good as we were playing, they still didn’t give up. You know, I think the chances were still only like 4-4 at the end, but I did think we were playing really well. Um, you know, stuff in game happens uh momentum wise. Obviously, you give up three early or three right away there in the in the second. Not right away, three at the over a short time period. Um, that’s hard to crawl back from. Uh, then it got away from us in the third. So, uh, we, you know, we got to, uh, have a meeting tomorrow, learn from this game, and go try to win a hockey game tomorrow. Second periods had been a problem earlier this year. not as much the past few weeks. Do you see anything related to that? No, I mean, again, I didn’t think through, you know, I thought through parts of the second were fine. We we give up a goal on a kind of nothing play. It’s a oneon- two, they enter the zone, then we turn it over, it’s in our net, then it’s a PK, boom, it’s two nothing right away, and then unfortunately at the end of the period, we give that one up. So, um, listen, you know, our seconds through the course of the season haven’t been good enough. I don’t think that’s been a huge issue lately, but we just we just got to keep, you know, I I’m more focused on the whole process, not just the the one period. This, you know, other than it’s this and Buffalo really like this. We used to see a lot of these games like that. Is it is it can you take that kind of solace that this this is not happening very often? I mean, every team just has a bad night every now and then. Yeah, I mean this, you know, this stuff happens. I will say this uh this compared to the Buffalo game I think are two different animals to be honest with you cuz I thought we started played really really well and then it just got away from us where the Buffalo from day and the drop of the puck they were the better team and we never had anything going that night like I think if we score early it could be a different game if we scored some if we score in our power play could be a different game u because we were we were fine and then and then momentum matters and and they got the momentum and we just couldn’t grab it back those power plays seem to lose a lot of momentum yeah they did you know they’re Kill’s done a the best job in the league over the last 10 games of kind of denying entries. Um and and they’ve done a they did an excellent job on us and um you know, so we got to do a better job in those areas. You know, we we had a couple unforced errors on the power play. That’s you know, when we struggle that that seems to be our kill on the power plays. We uh kind of give pucks away and then now it’s hard to get back in the zone. You moved already up to the first pairing and you did have a couple nice breakouts even if it wasn’t a perfect game. What went into that and what did you see? Yeah, we did it yesterday and and he played most or two games a or sorry, two days ago um the first game against LA and he he you know just him and Vlass had played good together. Um you know it kind of gives us a a guy on with Vlass on one pairing, a guy with Krebs on another, you know, a guy with MV like kind of some size on each pairing. Um you know so we were we were hoping they had good chemistry. I thought they played pretty well the other night. I thought they had moments of good tonight. Um I already probably had an up and down game. He did some good stuff and did some things he’s going to have to learn from and that’s kind of, you know, where I thought a number of our D were like that and that’s kind of what happens at times with our team and it’s a little bit, you know, it’s a it’s a little bit to do certainly with the age, but you know, the other side of it is they just got to keep learning. If I’m saying this three years from now, you know, we’ll all be disappointed. So, let’s make sure we keep learning and uh from these uh these types of mistakes. Do you remind them that this is the last time they’ll see Kopitar? Is that player initiated? Uh player initiated. Yeah, player initiated. Yep. Yep. All right. Right, that’s Jeff Flash courtesy of the Blackhawks. If you missed that last part, the Blackhawks did stay on the ice to shake hands with Andre Kopitar. That was cool. Uh, very cool. And, uh, Vashel saying that that was a player decision to do that, which is nice. You saw Conor Murphy was the first guy there. Dickinson, Burkovosski were, I think, the first three Hawks on the scene to shake his hand and the entire team went up to Kobitar and congratulate him on a great career and rightfully so. Kobar, maybe not the last time a handshake line between these two teams this season. Maybe that would be fun. Maybe that’d be a lot of fun. Let’s see. Yeah, definitely. Um, yeah, hearing from Blash, uh, my feelings are vindicated of this game because he brought up the the the Buffalo game and and yeah, I mean, I I feel like the this team scoring first is dangerous. This team giving up the first goal is tough. uh the Blackhawks I’m talking about. Um they it’s it’s tough for them to kind of get going after that uh allowing the first goal. So landing the first punch for them is is very important and and you come out of the first period you you feel pretty good and then the second period kings score early and then you’re kind of chasing from that point. So um I I I think and I like his comment there at the end too. If we’re if we’re still learning these lessons three years from now, it’s a huge disappointment. But I I think right now you’re learning these these lessons that might not even I mean they they might not carry into game 60 of this season. Like they might be beyond it by then, but I think this is something that the third youngest team in the NHL is is going to go through. Especially guys that um you know as we talk about Renzel like you also think about Moore and Ryan Green and like these are guys that the most games that they’ve played in a single like hockey calendar season 50 60. Yeah. Like if you count world juniors and stuff like that. Like these guys haven’t played a full slog of of NHL hockey yet. So there’s a lot of getting used to the day in and day out. There’s a lot of getting used to the energy the everyday league that it is that we keep hearing about from this team. like it takes some getting used to that that transition from, you know, I’m in college, I’m in junior to I’m in I’m in the NHL. So, it’s it’s it’s a lesson learning night. I just um I’m trying not to let that chat influence the show, but it is really cheeks tonight as a kid say. Um did you not expect this team to have games like that this year? Like what are we talking about? My mother told me there would be days like these. This is exactly what everyone thought this season. Actually, let me correct that. No one thought this season was going to be as good as it’s been. Yeah, they are in a playoff spot. They have a top 10 power play. Where are they in the penalty kill? Pretty damn good, too. Let me check. Right. Like, did you not think there were going to be nights where the young one of the youngest teams in the NHL didn’t look good? Fifth penalty kill in the league coming into Okay. fifth best penalty kill, ninth best power play in a playoff spot, and we’ve got people talking about selling and these kids aren’t going to pan out and just trying to re-evaluate this whole thing. What What are we What are we talking about? And Fire Nico says, “Are we not supposed to react this way when we lose six to nothing?” It’s called context. It’s called context. It’s the context of the season. It’s the context of the roster. the head coach whose livelihood depends on this team succeeding flat out told you like we had a good start and we just sort of lost our way and we’ll move on. They just beat the same team two nights ago. They beat the Ducks three nights a four nights ago. Mhm. They they took Vegas to overtime, lost in a shootout, which is a coin flip. Did Did those not happen? Did those games not happen? No, they did. Like I I just it’s just it’s ridiculous and I I I feel like it’s trolls and I really hate blocking people. But you know what? It’s my birthday week. So I think I might just get a couple people I really don’t like on this chat blocked. Sure. That might be my birth birthday gift to myself. Yeah, especially when they’re creating multiple accounts to talk to themselves and pat themselves on the back. Go touch grass or touch something else as Greg would say and that would get clipped and put on the internet with no context. Well, find find some grass. Uh yes, go touch snow. There’s a lot of snow out there. Uh if you’re in the local area, by the way, putting an inflatable uh Christmas decoration, staking that through snow, can’t recommend. Yeah, I I wouldn’t imagine that would go well. Did not go well. Yeah, it was rough. Yeah, I’m sure even if you got through the ice, the ground was pretty hard. Yes. Not great. And then part of me I forgot that the back part of my uh like where my lawn meets my bushes is stone. I’m like, where can I get the freaking things? Oh yeah, it’s rocks. That’s right. It’s rocks. I can’t get it through rocks. But I got my little my inflatable highland up today. You got to get your decorations up before the snow gets there. Yeah. Anyway, that’s what I did. Sorry, I derailed. I lost control. I got away. I had a good start and it got away from me. You were baited by the rage. I pulled a Blackhawks. Oh well. It’s It’s fine. Look, I I I get people uh being upset at the six nothing loss and thinking the sky is falling. You know, the same people are going to come in here and do the same thing they do after every loss. You can count on it. There’s the loss crowd and the win crowd. And the loss crowd can’t wait to come in here and have their their negative, cynical opinions verified after a loss. Sure. Yeah. I mean, I I we we’re speaking from uh the perspective of, you know, we’re coming in every day. Yep. Watching every game, watching every practice, talking to players, talking to coaches. I I think at at at this point, um in CHGO’s life, uh I feel like we do a I I think we do a pretty good job. I’d say of keeping things in perspective of an 82 game season. And this is this is a different territory than Hawks fans have been in and and we’ve been in in the last couple of years where we’re hinging on results where points matter and where performances matter and finer points of things matter. Um, and we’re balancing that with this team is way above expectations and there’s still a lot of growing pains to go through. There’s still a lot of adjustments to go through with these young players and we’ve been excited. We’ve been encouraged and we’ve gotten used to seeing some wins. So, we want to see more. So, when you get a game like this where you know you by midway through the third period you’re shrugging your shoulders and being like it it just isn’t going to happen tonight. Um it’s hard to kind of let that go, let it roll off, roll off the shoulders, roll off the back, and and move on to the next game when we’re just like, “No, but we’re supposed to every game is supposed to matter. So why does this I I think it’s it’s it’s hard. It’s hard to swallow that. It can’t be all the prospects suck, but how do they lose six nothing?” Well, yeah. It can’t be this Kyle Davidson plan is trash and Blash’s an idiot and has lost a room, but then you’re mad about a six. It can’t be both. Okay. It can’t be both. What I’m going to say is I feel like most level-headed people and most people who have been uh viewing this Blackhawk scene for the last number of years um have quieted down those kinds of thoughts and opinions and feelings and the people who are are are a shrinking number. And as we talked about in the pregame with what Mark Lazarus and Kyle Davidson talked about and and and Mark wrote for the athletic and in that interview was just like the rebuild plan for the long haul has been working and and how Kyle Davidson has kind of set things up for this organization moving forward uh is going in the right direction and bu they’re they’re building from within. Sam Renzel is part of that. Kevin Kinsky is part of that. uh guys who aren’t even here yet are part of that with Lardis and Canerov and Fondell and Guav and so on and so forth, Vaner. Um multiple first round picks, all this stuff like that’s all still on the way. So this is still a team that is building upwards and it’s not linear. It’s not a straight uh you know incline all the way up from lottery pick to Stanley Cup. like it’s it’s going to have its ups and downs, but I think especially this season, there have been more ups than downs and and that’s that’s the way the arrow is pointing. So, I just I just think that if you’re if you’re you you can you can you can look at games as as individual entities, but then what we try and do, I would say, in in postgame shows is also scale it back or or scale it out and be like, okay, this loss in and of itself is one thing, but this loss in the grand scheme of the season, in the grand in the grand context of the season, um is it’s it becomes a different story. So, I think there’s there’s there’s still some unwinding of the mindset of just like every loss is terrible and this team is is tanking and and all this like there’s still some unwinding doing from the last few seasons of that. Yeah. I I just you know I I it is our job to come on here and be the level-headed ones and like I should not let the chat get to me but it’s in my face the entire time we do the show and it’s kind of hard. No, you don’t have to take it off. It’s fine. We’re not actually blocking anyone. It’s just uh There’s only been one time where we’ve had not had a chat for this show and it’s for many much different reasons. Yeah, exactly. I’m in control. Yeah. Yeah. Fully in control. Show’s got the banhammer. I haven’t blocked anyone. That’s it. Um Yeah. So, look, it’s it we knew that there were going to be moments in any young team’s development where there’s going to be blowouts. I mean, didn’t the Sharks lose seven nothing the other night? Probably. 7-1. Didn’t the Ducks just lost seven nothing? Sure. Abs lost a game in regulation. Anything is anything is possible, guys. Um, yeah, it’s there there’s there’s, as far as I know, no team has gone 82 and0 in the NHL. That’s true. So, try, though. It’s gonna Yeah, it’s gonna eb and and flow and um you know, a lot of people have have given Jeff Blashel a lot of flowers this season for his demeanor uh across the AC across the board. He’s not uh riding the waves of the of the winds at the at their peaks and he’s not sunken down in the valleys of this season. He he’s a guy that keeps it pretty even whether they’re winning or losing. He can have uh yucks and chuckles when come on Eileen plays over the speakers during his pregame presser. Uh and he can, you know, dive into the 67 thing, but he can also lay it down of like this effort was horrible tonight, unacceptable. And guys are going to feel it the next time they practice. And no, no one is saying you should be happy or satisfied with a six nothing loss. We started the show by listing the several things that went wrong in this game, right? But I don’t think that this loss indicates anything. I don’t feel differently about this team after tonight than I did after the win over the Kings or the win over the Ducks. They’re about a 500 team. And there’s it’s going to be win-win loss loss win loss win loss loss win loss loss loss win loss. It’s that that’s is that’s what this team is. That’s going to be the song be stuck in my head forever, right? and and there’ll be shootout loss in there, but that throws the rhythm off every now and again, right? But that’s what a 500 team is. It’s exactly where they are. It’s exactly how they’re playing. Um, and 6 nothing, two nothing, one nothing. It is it there’s no bigger loss of points than two regardless of the score. So that that’s what I’m saying. When I’m saying that leads nicely into our conversation, three-point system. Yeah. Right. But it’s like it’s just like that’s what I’m saying. It doesn’t it doesn’t at the end of the day tonight is not going to dictate whether or not this thing works out or not or if Jeff Flash works out. It’s a a crap loss. They played like crap. There’s no doubt about it. Bad 100%. It’s over. They play again in a few hours and we’ll be here for it. So anyway, and Khloe’s going to be here running the show without the watchful eye of Sarah. be around if something goes wrong. There’s going to be a lot of people here. It’s just who’s going to be dedicated to helping us. Yeah, we have we have Bears, Packers, Post, and Oh, boy. If the Bears lose tomorrow, not that they’re going to I picked them to go 17 and0. Um I did I not pick them to go 17 and0. You did. Thank you. So, I believe they’re going to win every game. You want to talk about a nightmare chat? I mean, I think the Bears have a nightmare chat. No matter what, they might have a nightmare. From from from what I’ve heard from our dieards in the Discord that also dabble in the Bears Discord, um it’s it’s a war zone over there. Win or lose, not great. So, yeah. Um great. Yeah, that’ll be interesting. But should be a fun day tomorrow. Um I’m looking forward to the food uh and uh and the football and the hockey and the basketball. It’s going to be fun. It’s a busy day. Everyone’s going to be here tomorrow. Yeah. And I’m coming in early to watch the Bears game here. Nice. So, that’ll be fun. All right, let’s hear from uh Jason Dickinson and then we’ll uh put the put a little bow on this show. Here he is courtesy of the Hawks with his Shiner. Yep. You know, there’s a few areas that we obviously um gave up. I felt like we let them get behind us a few too many times and then uh we gave them some easy ice in our zone that led to a lot of extended zone time that um just kind of creates a snowball effect that uh is hard to mitigate. It’s a team that’s still learning obviously and you sometimes that gets lost because you’ve been playing well and you’ve been winning games, but this is a reminder that you know this is still a work in progress here. Yeah, sure. I mean, every game in the NHL is got its own challenges and it’s a it’s a new day. So, um you know, Blash has been trying to preach to us that this is an everyday league. Young guys, obviously it’s much more pertinent to them that they learn that. Um, but this is one of those days that it got away from us and we get to come back tomorrow thankfully and learn right away to say this didn’t work. This is what we need to be better at. Go out and do it. And now we all get a chance to go and do it. There haven’t been many games like this this year too. I mean, this is only the third time all year you’ve been trailing by more than a goal after the second period. Is that I mean, can you look at that as a positive in the big picture? Yeah, absolutely. Used to happen a little more often. Yep. Yes, it did. Um, I was a part of a few of those. So, um, it’s nicer that these are few and far between. Um, you know, I’d still obviously like to minimize them. I’d love to be in all these games. Um, but these happen and the best part about it is that they’re a learning opportunity. As long as we take it for what it is, then there’s some value in it. Best part about it is also you got the first one, so that that helps to get that out of the way, right? Yeah. I mean, you know, we we can walk out of this road trip feeling good about what we did. Um, you know, it’s not like we feel good about losing a game and still having a chance to be happy about the road trip, but at the end of the day, you know, you walk out of a road trip with two one and one, you know, you did a good job. That’s what you’re meant to do on the road. You go in there, sometimes they’re gritty, sometimes they’re ugly, and and if you get the job done, nobody cares. Nobody asks questions. It’s done. He wasn’t perfect tonight, but Levnav had a couple really nice exits out of the Dzone. What have you seen from him kind of growing and getting more comfortable and predictable? Yeah. Well, one of the hardest things for a young player, um, and I can’t exactly speak for a defenseman, but I can assume for a defenseman, is being confident going and picking up a puck and making the play. You know, you got guys bearing down on you that can skate just as well as you. You’ve got guys that um, you know, fourth line, first line, it doesn’t matter. They can all check the way that NHL players check. It’s a little different than college. You know, you can get a little bit of separation on a younger guy, a guy that doesn’t know what he’s doing. You know, guys miss their checks. doesn’t happen at this level. So for Arty, the big thing is to learn that he’s got great legs, he’s strong, and he can outmuscle guys. And the more he keeps doing that, the more he’s going to learn where his spacing is to do those sorts of things. And and like you said, he created a couple exits because he’s strong on the puck. He uses his legs and he trusts himself to to get himself out of uh tight spots because he he is a strong kid that can do those things. We’re not going to get to see you here for the rest of the year. So, I’m just curious about your thoughts on Conor’s chances to be an Olympic team and what he’s meant to you guys and how it’s so different a year later. Yeah, I I think it goes without saying Connor is the most valuable player on our team. Um maybe next to Nighty. Knight’s been playing uh lights out for us. So, um Connor’s put himself in the conversation. You know, that’s uh that’s something he had to do. It wasn’t given to him. It wasn’t something that uh a lot of people were talking about. I think a lot of people had written him off on the Olympic team to be fair. Sorry to be honest with you. Um, but he has definitely raised his game. He’s brought a level of intensity that I think he’s turning heads and and making them have to think about him as an option because, you know, he’s a hell of a player and and to have a guy like that sitting on the sidelines, it really sucks that we can’t put two Canadian teams out there. All right, that’s Jason Dickinson courtesy of the Blackhawks. And I got to say, uh, he is like the vibe check cuz when when when he like he did not I was expecting him to be pretty pissed after this one and he was clearly unhappy and unsatisfied and wants it to be better, but he was kind of did the shrug thing, too. Like, yeah, let’s learn from it. We got a chance to learn from it tomorrow. Um, his demeanor kind of dictates to me like, all right, how should I feel after this one? Right. Like because he’s got a really good sense of the team. He’s been here through a lot of this. A lot of these ups, mostly downs, but the ups, the the rise as well. He’s been through a lot personally injury-wise and everything. So, whenever I see J Jason Dickson feel like, eh, you know, one of those days kind of verifies the way I was feeling about things. Yeah, absolutely. Um I I like hearing from him. Uh he’s he’s a guy that I think is going to give you a lot of um more depth of insight uh to how the team is is is playing and what they need to work on and what what they’re doing right. So um yeah, it’s it’s it’s always nice when we get to hear from Jason Jickson. Yes. All right, game pucks. We have a new entrant to the game puck world. It is number 11 Oliver Moore with his first game puck as an NHL player. So congrats to Oliver Moore. the picture with the the puck holding it up. Literally a game puck. The CSGO game puck. Uh so him, Ryan Green, Sam Laughaferty, Colton Doc, and Kucks legend Lucas Reichel all have one Burkovski and Lechnov with two. You got three from Berusi. You have six from Mard and eight from Spencer Knight. So that is your count right now for game pucks. So some work to do for Alvermore. Uh his first definitely not going to be his last. I’ll say I’ll agree with that. the way he’s played in some games. Um, very noticeable. Um, even when he’s not on the score sheet, you need you need players that are going to do that. Get on the score sheet, too, Oliver. Yes. Um, I you know what, my prediction was incorrect. I thought the vibe today was going to be that they should have started Harvard Soder Bloom over Spencer Knight. We had not seen that until just now with Gota. I hope I said that right. Got to do more. Got to do more maybe. Yeah. Uh 2020 hindsight, but Soda should have gotten a start tonight. Go look at the splits between Spencer Knight and Sorboom against LA. Spencer Knight is sub two goals against and like a 95 save percentage against the Kings. Now, that will go down tonight. Sure. Yeah. Or up, whatever you want to call it. Um but no, I mean No, I mean this I know it’s been a long time since we’ve had a one a number one starting goalender, but this is how you use them. You play them three of four, four of five, and you play them in in tough matchups. So, you you pick your poison. Uh Kings when they’re going to have a g when they’re going to have something to prove or ducks when they’re going to have something to prove against this Blackhawks team. One or the other. You You play them tonight and they lose. Ah, should have played Soda Boom. You play him tomorrow and they lose. Ah, he should have played against the Kings. You could you could say it for both. like, but it’s Spencer Knight. It’s a he’s clearly your starter. He’s clearly your best goalender. He’s the guy that you’re going to go to more often than not. So, that’s how that’s how you play him. You don’t rotate 50/50 with a guy like him. You play him as much as you can. Uh, and as much as his his energy level is going to let you do it. And just a little bit of note for context, the Minnesota Wild, who we all agree are pretty good team, decent. In three of the last four games, the Wild have lost to the last place team in the East, Buffalo, and at the time the 32nd place team in the NHL, Calgary, and they lost tonight to the now 32nd team in the NHL, Vancouver. So, it happens to everybody. That’s all we’re saying. All right, we are going Wild should sell. Tomorrow, uh, what time’s the game? 7 o’clock. 7 o’clock, 6:30 pregame. We will be here hopefully celebrating a Bears win and a Hawks win and a Bulls win. And it’ll be a great day at CHGO. We hope you’ll be here as part of it. We’ll talk to you then on the CHGO Blackhawks podcast.

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The Chicago Blackhawks are shut out 6–0 by the Los Angeles Kings, despite Spencer Knight making several big saves to keep the score from getting even worse. Chicago’s offense never found traction as Connor Bedard, Tyler Bertuzzi, Frank Nazar and the rest of the forward group were unable to generate quality chances. It’s another rough night for Jeff Blashill’s squad, raising more questions about the team’s scoring struggles. Jay Zawaski and Mario Tirabassi break down what went wrong, Knight’s bright moments, and where the Hawks go from here.

00:00 START
02:00 First Reactions
10:19 Bouncing Back Against Anaheim
14:06 Game Puck Nominations
18:17 Sam Rinzel
28:56 Blackhawks Power Play
35:00 Jeff Blashill
41:05 Team Expectations
52:20 Jason Dickinson
57:20 Game Puck Winner

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