I know the points structure will never change, but hypothetically, what would you guys think about this?
December 8, 2025
As a disclaimer, I always thought regulation wins should count for more points. I also thought there was nothing wrong ending a game in a draw, and both teams receiving a point, but I'm just weird that way lol.
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I’m a fan of it, gives you that extra oomph for winning properly, but I think it would be too confusing and push casuals away from the sport
Like basically every other league does it?
Love it.
But get rid of shootouts and make OT 10 min 4v4
No score then ends in a tie.
OTL should be 0. Fight me
PWHL scores like this and it’s great. They also have a jailbreak rule where you get your player out of the penalty box if they score on a short handed goal. I wish the NHL would adopt some of the PWHL rules.
Not opposed, but I think the real issue is the playoff format. The first 2 rounds in the division is really dumb. Even if they continued to reward division winners with the top 2 seeds, but the 1 seed should play the 8 seed (and so on).
Just bring back ties and go 3-1-0 *ducks*
This comes up frequently in r/hockey. Someone did a break down a few years ago on how the seedings would be different, and over the course of 15+ years, only a handful of seeds (like 3, I don’t remember exactly) would have ended up different than they were with the current system.
It really doesn’t change a lot of you reset the prior years to this points system.
This makes the playoff race less clumpy. Losers really lose and winners really win. The league is less exciting when standings are less close.
Why -3 for a win?
While we’re being creative, let’s get rid of the shootout and award 0 points for an OTL.
I have thought this should be the way it’s done for many years now. With the current format you end up with an uneven number of points when it’s all said and done. This way every game is worth 3 points regardless of how the game is decided.
I think it should be even simpler if we have to keep the reward for an OT/SO loss:
3 points for win
1 for non regulation loss
This simply weights the win more than the current 2/1 format. I personally think it is BS that certain losses count as half a win.
I still don’t love the idea of awarding a point for any loss, regulation or otherwise.
I’d prefer:
3pts – regulation win
2pts – OT win
1pt – SO win
No ties and no loser point.
It won’t happen because teams will argue they still, “won.” But yes, teams who win in regulation should get higher ranked than a team that goes to 30 overtimes a year. There’s always a handful of teams every year that half their points come from OT/shootouts lol.
But just get rid of the 3 on 3 OT. It’s dumb. 5 on 5 is what it should be.
IMHO it should be:
Win, regulation or OT: 3 points
OT Loss: 1 Point
Regulation loss: 0 points
I think wins are currently weighted disproportionately to OTLs. You lose in OT and you get a point, but if you win in regulation you only get two? Why aren’t teams seriously incentivized to win in regulation. And furthermore, winning in OT should be 3 points because we’ve seen far too often that teams just pass the puck around and play for the shootout.
I like it the way it is… giving a team 3 points for 1 win is too much
I’m with you, no overtime in the regular season. It will make playoff overtime that much more intense. Just give each team 1 point.
It’s unnecessary to seed like this to generate rivalries. We had that before when we were seeding 1-8…it’s not a problem. The teams change a little more often, but not much. The bigger issue is potentially sacrificing the conference finals to have a good 1st/2nd round…that does not make sense.
I miss 0-0 ties. Bring back 0-0 ties!
I’ve been asking for this for years and years. It makes so much sense.
This post comes up every 2.1675 months.
I kind of like the idea of regulation wins – losses – ot/shootout wins 3 points-0 points-0 points (1 tiebreaker point). Like winning in regulation is the only thing that matters as far as points are concerned but the first tiebreaker in the standings is ot/shootout wins. OT/Shootouts really aren’t a reliable measurement for how well a team will play in the playoffs so why should they have an impact on points at all?
This means the gimmick overtime rules of the regular season has a reduced impact on a team’s season but is still important enough to make the players still try in overtime. Which is the important thing because no fan wants to go home after watching a tie.
The only impact it would have had on the playoff seeding last year is that NYR would have been the 8 seed instead of Montreal. Vegas would have been the 1 seed instead of Winnipeg. Vegas would have had 138 points with 46 regulation wins which is the reason not to use it because that’s too much. Since nothing else matters a win can be 1 point but a 46 point season sounds way too low.
3-2-1 points system is goat I wish they would implement it.
As a big PWHL fan, I have come to like and prefer this format
Three points are at stake in every game this way
I’m for it. Soccer system works similar to this where a win is 3 points and a tie is 1, loss is 0. Really makes winning important.
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I’m a fan of it, gives you that extra oomph for winning properly, but I think it would be too confusing and push casuals away from the sport
Like basically every other league does it?
Love it.
But get rid of shootouts and make OT 10 min 4v4
No score then ends in a tie.
OTL should be 0. Fight me
PWHL scores like this and it’s great. They also have a jailbreak rule where you get your player out of the penalty box if they score on a short handed goal. I wish the NHL would adopt some of the PWHL rules.
Not opposed, but I think the real issue is the playoff format. The first 2 rounds in the division is really dumb. Even if they continued to reward division winners with the top 2 seeds, but the 1 seed should play the 8 seed (and so on).
Just bring back ties and go 3-1-0 *ducks*
This comes up frequently in r/hockey. Someone did a break down a few years ago on how the seedings would be different, and over the course of 15+ years, only a handful of seeds (like 3, I don’t remember exactly) would have ended up different than they were with the current system.
It really doesn’t change a lot of you reset the prior years to this points system.
This makes the playoff race less clumpy. Losers really lose and winners really win. The league is less exciting when standings are less close.
Why -3 for a win?
While we’re being creative, let’s get rid of the shootout and award 0 points for an OTL.
I have thought this should be the way it’s done for many years now. With the current format you end up with an uneven number of points when it’s all said and done. This way every game is worth 3 points regardless of how the game is decided.
I think it should be even simpler if we have to keep the reward for an OT/SO loss:
3 points for win
1 for non regulation loss
This simply weights the win more than the current 2/1 format. I personally think it is BS that certain losses count as half a win.
I still don’t love the idea of awarding a point for any loss, regulation or otherwise.
I’d prefer:
3pts – regulation win
2pts – OT win
1pt – SO win
No ties and no loser point.
It won’t happen because teams will argue they still, “won.” But yes, teams who win in regulation should get higher ranked than a team that goes to 30 overtimes a year. There’s always a handful of teams every year that half their points come from OT/shootouts lol.
But just get rid of the 3 on 3 OT. It’s dumb. 5 on 5 is what it should be.
IMHO it should be:
Win, regulation or OT: 3 points
OT Loss: 1 Point
Regulation loss: 0 points
I think wins are currently weighted disproportionately to OTLs. You lose in OT and you get a point, but if you win in regulation you only get two? Why aren’t teams seriously incentivized to win in regulation. And furthermore, winning in OT should be 3 points because we’ve seen far too often that teams just pass the puck around and play for the shootout.
I like it the way it is… giving a team 3 points for 1 win is too much
I’m with you, no overtime in the regular season. It will make playoff overtime that much more intense. Just give each team 1 point.
It’s unnecessary to seed like this to generate rivalries. We had that before when we were seeding 1-8…it’s not a problem. The teams change a little more often, but not much. The bigger issue is potentially sacrificing the conference finals to have a good 1st/2nd round…that does not make sense.
I miss 0-0 ties. Bring back 0-0 ties!
I’ve been asking for this for years and years. It makes so much sense.
This post comes up every 2.1675 months.
I kind of like the idea of regulation wins – losses – ot/shootout wins 3 points-0 points-0 points (1 tiebreaker point). Like winning in regulation is the only thing that matters as far as points are concerned but the first tiebreaker in the standings is ot/shootout wins. OT/Shootouts really aren’t a reliable measurement for how well a team will play in the playoffs so why should they have an impact on points at all?
This means the gimmick overtime rules of the regular season has a reduced impact on a team’s season but is still important enough to make the players still try in overtime. Which is the important thing because no fan wants to go home after watching a tie.
The only impact it would have had on the playoff seeding last year is that NYR would have been the 8 seed instead of Montreal. Vegas would have been the 1 seed instead of Winnipeg. Vegas would have had 138 points with 46 regulation wins which is the reason not to use it because that’s too much. Since nothing else matters a win can be 1 point but a 46 point season sounds way too low.
3-2-1 points system is goat I wish they would implement it.
As a big PWHL fan, I have come to like and prefer this format
Three points are at stake in every game this way
I’m for it. Soccer system works similar to this where a win is 3 points and a tie is 1, loss is 0. Really makes winning important.