Kenny and Renny Post Game Show | Jets vs. Oilers Game 28

Kenny and Renny Post Game Show | Jets vs. Oilers Game 28

Heat. [Music] [Music] Heat. [Music] Hello everybody. I’m Sean Reynolds from Sports Set about to be joined by Ken Weave from the Winnipeg Free Press. Together we are Kenny and Renie. This is the Kenny and Renie late night edition. Uh the kind of show where hey Saturday night if you feel like you need to pour a drink after seeing that one as uh my colleague in the green room right now suggested maybe uh may be apt for the folks out there. You should do that. Um, this is the Kenyan Renie postgame show after a game in which I personally have completely and entirely lost faith in the Winnipeg Jets ability to execute the game plan that they are trying to execute with the roster as they currently have it constructed. So, why don’t you just hop into the car with me and let’s take the opening drive for Jim Patterson Toyota on Regent and I’ll share my thoughts about it. I I joked to Ken way back when and uh you know we like to here I’ll give you some bad analysis I had. At one point I told you I was confident the Winnipeg Jets were going to uh were going to finish first in the Central Division. That is a long long gone prophecy. Now, um I also said at one point, uh that I thought when Connor Halbuck went down that the Jets were going to go with a 580 win percentage. Uh that’s bad bad analysis. And one thing I will say is I’ve always said this before, if I’m telling you like like, hey, this team’s going to win that game or that kind of thing like like very definitive results, don’t listen to it. Okay? If I was any good at that or if anyone that you know was any good at that, they would be gambling and making, you know, they wouldn’t work and they would just sit back and they would collect a paycheck off of their ability to see through the crystal ball. But I think there’s a lot of things that Ken and I do get right on this show. And one of those things was extremely early on, Renie said to you, the Winnipeg Jets are not an up team. They’re not a down team. I know a lot of people are you going to be people are going to be looking at this tonight and thinking that and wow they were up they were so much up and they were regaining who they were against the Buffalo Sabres the last place team in the East in their last game and now they’re down what’s going on here and I said at some point the Winnipeg Jets they are not up and down they are in fact extremely consistent and have been for the majority of the season the problem is their game is only good enough to get them past lower degree of difficulty teams and they seem to fail when it comes to the higher difficulty teams. A good barometer for that is the teams over the playoff mark. Half the league is below, half the league is above. Well, when I said that, I didn’t think that they would never beat a team over the playoff line again. And yes, I hear you. The Edmonton Oilers aren’t over the playoff line right now or going into this game weren’t. But I think we’ve seen enough from the Edmonton Oilers that it would be fair to maybe give them the benefit of the doubt that they’re a team that starts the season off god awful atrocious and then kind of decides to pour things on, goes to the Stanley Cup finals in back-to-back years. Um, the Edmonton Oilers lit it up in their last game. They look like they’re catching fire. This is the Winnipeg Jets playing a team that’s on fire and is really good. And this is what happened to them tonight. And I get that, you know, their coach called a timeout and, you know, read read them the riot act. And I get that there’s a lot of you folks out there who want to to attribute this to that the guys didn’t show up and, you know, it wasn’t their best effort. And I’m telling you, that’s not what I’m seeing. That’s not what I’ve saw all year. Was this their best best effort? No, I don’t think it was their best effort. But is this re is what happened in this game because the Winnipeg Jets just decided not to show up or is it because things got really hard and a team that can get fast and move the puck really fast is going up against a Winnipeg Jets team that went from being the best defensive team in the NHL last year to a team that shows no sign no sign of that blueprint. And some of the best analysis I gave was four shows ago or something like that when I said forget the idea of the Winnipeg Jets becoming who they were last year. That’s that’s ship has sailed. That this is not who this group is. That’s not who they can be anymore. And I I guess for the opening drive, if there’s a point that I want to walk away from in this, it’s that I’m at the stage right now where there’s no point be like beyond the shadow of a doubt. We’re almost 30 games into the NHL season, folks. If you think it’s weird that people would be trying to sell you the idea that the Winnipeg Jets just haven’t put together a full 60 minutes in almost 30 games of a season, then I don’t know. Like, don’t buy that. Don’t buy that. The folks who are trying to give you analysis and tell you, “Oh, here come the Winnipeg Jets. They’re back to what they were last year. They’re showing signs of it.” Don’t buy that. This roster is not the same roster as last year. It is evidently clear. It was painfully clear on a night like tonight. The Winnipeg Jets can’t hang with teams that can skate fast. They have a tough enough time hanging with the the Nashville Predators and the the Buffalo Sabres. Uh it’s it’s not there. And I guess I’m at the stage where people want me to be like, and maybe I do sound a little bit wound up. I don’t I don’t want to be wound up. I don’t want to be, you know, reading the riot act. And if I’m being quite honest, people keep people keep messaging me and there was someone again who messaged me tonight to get on the show and absolutely rip him. And like I I don’t have I maybe Renie is getting soft in his old age. I don’t have it in me. I feel empathy for this team. And the reason I feel empathy for the Winnipeg Jets is because right now they are out there trying to play a system that I do not think that they can play at the NHL level. That’s it. And what happens is when they face upper echelon teams, they look a league below. The Winnipeg Jets didn’t look like they belonged on the same ice as the Edmonton Oilers here tonight. And yes, they got two late goals. If I’ve ever seen late garbage time goals, it’s those anyone who’s trying to tell you, oh, they came, you know, they they they woke up late and Cole Kepky has goals and back-to-back games and here that’s coming on and the top line kept going and all this kind of stuff. It was obvious at some point that the Edmonton Oilers checked out of this game and this is, you know, score effects. Most people know what score effects are now. That was clearly at play in this game here. the the Winnipeg Jets are going to try to go on and continue to play the system that they played last year because I don’t really think that you have a choice at the professional level. You came into camp, you trained this, you taught the system, you hired a coach based on a system that they like to deliver. And Ken and I have had conversations on Kenny Renie before about this. A lot of times when you’re hiring a coach, you’re hiring a system. And that’s what the Winnipeg Jets did when they got Scott Arenal. And probably you can say that right back to the days when Rick Bonis started because uh he had a huge huge impact on the system that the Winnipeg Jets are playing. You don’t just say, “Okay, well, crumple it up. Let’s try a new system.” The only shot you have at this. only shot you have at this stage is if the Winnipeg Jets are going to be making if their management is going to be going out and trying to address the roster shortfalls that keep this team from being able to come anywhere near the blueprint that it set last year. And if there’s any idea of seriously competing for the cup this year, which the Winnipeg Jets, you heard it on the broadcast, they suggested that the Winnipeg Jets and the Edmonton Oilers are built to win right now teams. And I think the Winnipeg Jets thought they were built to win this year when they came into this. Well, clearly something went wrong in the design. You built the house and you walked in and you fell through the the floor into the basement. Something went wrong in the building of this win right now team. And I think the Winnipeg Jets at this stage, there is not much more time. They are at a crossroads. If the Winnipeg Jets are going to continue to be try to be a win right now team, it has to come from without. Or maybe it comes from the moose, but I I’ll be the first one to say I don’t think the answers lie in the farm system. Maybe you go that direction and that means that you’re not trying to be a win now team. you’re trying to be like, well, let’s develop guys along the way team here. But if the Winnipeg Jets are going going to say anything other than, you know what, it didn’t turn out how we thought it was going to this year, so we’re going to go and we’re going to give it the old college try and we’re going to try and get over the line and we’re going to do the best we can with what we have. Well, then that would be honest. But at this stage, anyone telling you that the Winnipeg Jets are trying to win a Stanley Cup this year without addressing the massive flaws that exist right now in their lineup and their ability to execute their game plan. That’s just to me that’s wishful thinking at this stage. Anyways, that is uh the Jim Patterson Toyota on region opening drive. Um going to bring Ken in here right away, but first we just wanted to tell you that this December, it is time to Toyota. Jim Patterson Toyota on Region lease the 2025 Tacoma 4×4 SR5 truck from just $116 weekly for 64 months at $6.59% with $7,699 down and a $1,500 accessory credit. But hurry, the offer ends December 31st. You don’t want to get tied up with your Christmas shopping and not get in on this deal, folks. Visit Jim Patterson Toyota on Regent for a test drive today. All right, time to bring in the man with the best music in the business. Here comes Kenny, folks. [Music] [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] So, here’s my guy right here bringing him into the show. There’s Ken, everybody. Um, obviously not dressed up like a Victoria Rossy man is. Neither am I. uh dressed like a a guy who watched curling all day, which is a great way to spend a day then with some hockey at the end of it. Sports nut like me. That’s all you want. Uh but we’re definitely not dressed to impress, Ken. But if you were interested and dressing to impress, you’d know what to do. You’d head on down to Victoria Rossy on Cordon Avenue. That’s the obvious answer. You’d walk in, you would loudly proclaim that Kenny and Randy sent you. You would ask for Frankie and the boys, and they would impress you, and then you’d walk out the door, and you’d impress other people. That’s how it goes. It’s a pretty simple transaction down there at Victoria Ross. You should go check them out, folks. And of course, tell them Kenny and Renie sent you. Ken, um, we were talking quickly off air before. Let’s say it like this. There was a time quite a long time ago on the Kenny and Ren podcast that I told you I did not think the Winnipeg Jets as currently constructed were able to execute and become the team that they were. You weren’t ready to give up on that idea yet. Are you there? Are you there? I I I have to think they they can play faster, but I don’t know that they can make up the gap that is uh the the that’s engulfing their season here right now. Sean, uh yeah, I mean, you talked about adjusting the expectation and and I it’s just this team right now is it’s confusing to watch for people. You know, you think we know there’s been some obvious changes and we have dissected them thoroughly. Uh, but it’s hard to believe this team has dipped as quickly as it has, right? I mean, we’ve talked so often about how hard it is to make up ground in the NHL. And right now, the Jets fell like a stone in a one-mon span. And yes, they’re still within striking distance of a playoff spot. And yes, they got they got through, you know, one of, if not the most difficult portions in their schedule, but there aren’t signs that tell you this team is on the verge of getting it figured out. And I think that’s something that um whether you’re a player in that room, you’re a coach on the staff, whether you’re part of the management team, there’s been a lot of headscratching going on. And that’s sort of where you and I are at. We’re pointing out we can see the deficiencies, but the road map to fixing what is ailing the jets is not obvious. or it’s obvious, but it it it’s going to require some attention. Like you said, it’s hard to imagine this happening from within. And hey, if the Jets find a way to uh you know, poke holes in our theory, Sean, we’ll see. Probably think about doing at some point now. To me, we talk about narratives all the time. Like this narrative about the Jets is well-earned so far. And as you me I mean today first period this in this game on Saturday against the Oilers was the official one-third mark of the 82 game season. So this isn’t a small sample size small thinking. This is a pretty big you know full scap filled with art and the art is not making sense right now. This is uh just just very baffling to me. Sean, uh, we know some of the things are correctable. Yes, bad line changes, but Sean, bad line changes shouldn’t be happening in game, uh, 27, even if you’re a tired team playing on a backto-back whatever. I mean, these are smart guys. They didn’t forget how to play hockey. They didn’t forget how to defend. They didn’t forget what is important and what made them successful. But I mean as we’ve discussed you know the speed element is a very very real thing. There’s again today is another great example. There’s no forch check. There’s limited back check and there’s limited defensive zone coverage. And when you can’t have any of those three facets you a can’t play fast and b you can’t make life difficult on your opponent. Right? They’re not doing any of those things. So, I mean, you know, there was a time where, you know, the Jets didn’t defend, but man, they were fun to watch. They had line a scoring goals. They had, you know, guys playing an uptempo game. Right now, the Jets are neither a defensive team or a team that can score its way out of making mistakes. Um, so that’s a bad combination. And, uh, right now we’re talking about internal candidates or candidates with the moose. I mean, the middle six is providing virtually nothing offensively. And again, that that’s not to say they haven’t to this point. We know Neido Netherrider has six goals. We know Vlad Neomestikov has six goals, but that’s now one assist in 15 games for Vlad Neomesticov. And I’m not here to pick on Vlad Neomesticov. He’s got lots of company. But Sean, again, this is this is the Jets season encapsulated. Scott Neil breaks up the first line intentionally, but they end up on the ice together on a blended shift and then they score, right? So, the whole theory about breaking up the top line to spread out the offense, those guys end up on the ice for 20 seconds and they score, you know, and yes, Cole Keepy gets a garbage time goal. And you know what? Good for him in that this is a guy that went 17 without or 16 games without and scored in his 17th. Now he feels a little better about himself. But Sean, outside of maybe trying Cole Keepy on that Adam Lowry line on a checking line, we haven’t learned anything else about what the combinations might look like. Right. I mean, right. Only thing they haven’t tried is Baron or Keepky with Lowry in terms of trying to get speed and, you know, try to find that Mason Appleton replacement on that line. And uh anyways, there’s there’s there’s a lot of ways and things that we can discuss, but this isn’t an easy fix. It’s not an easy fix for the head coach. It’s not an easy fix for the general manager, but both of those guys have to put some things together to try and find a better pathway for the Winnipeg Jets because right now that pathway is destined um for something that not a lot of teams have done. I mean, without improving some areas pretty dramatically, the Jets could find them they’re in tough. I mean, it’s not that they can’t make it, but they’re going to have to play a hell of a lot better if they want to be just a playoff team and a wild card team, never mind a legitimate contender, which was what we all thought they were going into this season. And, uh, you know, again, and some of that is on the players, too. I’m not here just saying it’s coaching and management or whatever else. Not at all. Folks saying that, oh, it’s got to be this, got to be that. At some point, Sean, players have to look in the mirror and play better. I mean, we know they have the ability to play better. Uh, but everyone has to be better and that’s why Scott Neil, you know, pointed the finger at himself. That’s right out of the coaching manual, but players need to be better also. So, anyways, that that’s there’s a lot of things that uh have to be improved upon quickly or again, Sean, we’ve referenced this date and now the clock is ticking. November 1st is a long time ago. Jets haven’t had back-to- back consecutive regulation wins since November 1st. That was beating Chicago on the Thursday, beating the Penguins on the Saturday. And Sean, as we’ve mentioned, that’s the last time the Jets beat a team over the playoff line. They’ve got an incredibly important and Sean, we don’t like to exaggerate on this program. This is a season defining week for the Winnipeg Jets. I’m here to say it right now. I understand it’s still more, you know, lots of games, 51 games to go after this home four game home stand, but the Jets are playing four really good teams in a short success. And again, I would say five, including the Oilers, no matter what their record is. And yes, they’re below the line right now, but they’re playing four really good teams in this week on a four-ame home stand. And the Jets cannot afford to have the old, oh, first game back after a long road trip, uh, you know, sleepwalking through the first game. Forget it. I mean, you can’t do that. Jets have to be sharp and they’re going to have to up their game dramatically cuz Sean, maybe sometimes when you get up to play a tough opponent, it can help them. Like the Dallas Stars, Jets better be ready or they could get embarrassed quickly like they did in this game today. Well, that’s the tricky part because right now, and I joked about it at the beginning, I joked about it with you when I said that the Winnipeg Jets uh can’t beat good teams and the only teams they’re beating are poor teams. The I didn’t think that that was going to mean for the rest of the year, you know what I mean? At some point, you’d think that they were going to. But the fact of the matter is, and while it was happening, and this is why I thought I’m going to I’m going to point to a very specific game, and this one really stands out to me, and it was the Jets playing the Vancouver Conucks when they’d gone in and they’d got run out of the rink by the Anaheim Ducks. Uh, and they’d been beaten by the Sharks, and they’d been beaten by the Kings. Like, the Kings, I think, all made sense to us. The Sharks was like, “What the heck’s happening here?” And then things just got worse. the opposite of what we saw from the team last year where they would snap to it, things just got worse and then they got to Vancouver and there was this, oh, there it is. Hey, they’re coming around. Um, like that that game stands out to me because that’s not what I saw. I saw a team that just barely got over another struggling team. And I get it, wishful thinking. If you’re a fan and you’re watching the Winnipeg Jets, you’re thinking, “Okay, here they come.” because you equate wins quite simply with they did what it took to win tonight and that was a really good game. My issue is like over and over and over again and we can like break down and we can dissect the games moving in reverse. We don’t need to break this one down because the Winnipeg Jets got pumped in this game. They weren’t in the same area code as the Edmonton Oilers in this one. And then you go back to the Buffalo Sabres and yet they win that game and I know some people were kind of mocking the idea. We were talking about the deserve to win a meter. And believe me, I’m not campaigning for the team to win the game at the end of the game, get the two points for winning on the deserve to win a meter. But that said, when the Winnipeg Jets get outshot and outskated for the vast majority of the game by the Buffalo Sabres, yet they somehow managed to win, that’s not telling me, okay, they’re turning things around, things are coming around. when they lose the game before that to the Montreal Canadians who are on the backside of a backto-back and it’s the Montreal Canadiens who push and get back into that game when it’s the Jets who should be building stronger and stronger as that game goes on and those two games I’m talking about you you you basically have your goalenders steal you the points it doesn’t give me a lot of confidence in the Winnipeg Jets and then you go back to the game before that and they get hosed by the Buffalo Sabres that shouldn’t be happening to a really good team and Then the game before that, yes, they get a win over the Nashville Predators, but the Nashville Predators are all over the Winnipeg Jets coming out almost getting close to erasing a three-goal deficit that’s earned by one of their the Nashville’s uh, you know, top players who is not playing like a top player, a veteran guy that they brought in, giving up on two plays that end up in the back of their net. And then they almost surrender the lead and it takes a little bit of a lucky bounce from a point shot that lands on Kyle Connor stick and he pops in the back of the net and then it like I just go back and back and back and back and I can’t find a game, Ken. Whether it’s a win or whether it’s a loss and sometimes a loss is just fine. You lost, but you played really, really good in that loss. Okay, I’m starting to believe in you. I’m starting to see things. What I see time and time again is a kid getting their math homework and every once in a while passing the test, but for the most part sitting there scratching their heads, not knowing where to go with this and not understanding the work that’s ahead of them because the Winnipeg Jets look nothing like what they are supposed to look like, what they said they would look like. And this is one of the points that I wanted to make, Ken, and point out that I’ve wanted to for a while. I think the thing that’s so strange is the Winnipeg Jets when Scott Arneal came you could not Scott Arneal the first year that Bones was here you could see in training camp what they were trying to do like it was obvious they were going to be pressuring people they you saw right away in that camp they were playing this style game where they were going to get the puck back you got the puck we are going to get the puck back from you and you saw it executed for that first part of the year then they fell back into their old habits still made the playoffs. Then the next year they came back and they were even stronger. And then last year they came into the season and if you remember they’d lost to Foley who never really fit in and they lost Shawn Monahan but before that the team had been kept alive by Vladislav domesticov. They basically brought the the same team back and I think I don’t know I was probably one of the people guilty of that. I saw that as a sign of failure for the Winnipeg Jets. But what they did is they took that consistency and they narrowed their game down even more, even more. And that led to their President’s Trophy winning season because everyone walked into camp a th000% understanding of what their role was on that team. And I think the thing that just baffles us and that I wasn’t expecting, Ken, even with the changes, I did not expect that the the loss of those players, I knew Eers would be big. I laid out, you can go back to our early show, how I thought that it was going to affect the Winnipeg Jets losing him. I did not see the changes of those four players that I bring up all the time entirely stealing the speed element from the Winnipeg Jets. and and stealing it away from a system that is predicated on speed. And and I just the more I see this team, the more it’s like like we we talked about it early, Ken, we talked about it on this show from around game 10 and on. This team looked slow. They’ve done nothing since then in any game to make us think they don’t look slow against the National Predators. They look like they were right there with an older Nashville Predators team. They look like they got run out of the rink against Buffalo. They barely held on against Montreal. They got outskated by Buffalo, but found a way to win. And then tonight, it was just nowhere there. And I just take a look at this time and time again. And I think the consistency last year that we thought was a failure of the Winnipeg Jets and that they couldn’t add to their roster actually ended up being the superpower that got them to to the the the president’s trophy. And now the additions that they brought in this year of of the the veteran leadership that was supposed to take this team to the next level has actually turned out to be their kryptonite. Yeah. And then that’s that that again that’s the thing that is making this even harder to believe in real time when you watch it unfold, right? I mean it’s it’s just very odd. And like Sean, I mean, this is I I don’t think this is about culture because the Jets had to work so hard to rebuild that culture, but there’s something wrong with the mix. Uh I’m not saying there’s bad people in the room, but there’s something wrong with the mix. This this team is not, you know, a cohesive unit. I mean, it’s not a team that is, you know, at least on the ice. I mean, there, you know, all we’ve heard is these guys love each other and everything else the last few years. I don’t think that has changed, but this is the time where and we know this to be true because there hasn’t been any fingerpointing or anything like that within the group, but uh this is a real test. You know, all we’ve heard about how resilient the Jets are. I mean, this is a big big push on that resilience and this is when you find out what teams are made of. uh you know we’ve been applauding the leadership for you know few important years now and you know these guys didn’t suddenly become bad leaders so now they have to dig from within um you know and you got to attack this head on Sean you can’t go hide in the corner and hope things are going to change and I’m not saying the Jets are doing that but what I am saying is that uh they had a players only meeting already this week so um you know guys holding each other accountable that that’s not just something that can happen in a game. It’s got to happen on the daily, right? And that we know these guys are are are trying to work hard, but man, um it’s it’s got to like this is a big test of of their metal. And you know, we’re about to find out what these guys are made of. I think that’s that’s how I’m viewing that’s the lens that I’ll be watching this next week with. Yeah. Okay. I’m ready to hand out the uh flame and comfort hot take uh of the game where Kyle Berg says, “Wasn’t this a scheduled loss anyways? What’s the panic for?” Um, hey, from from a from a microscope view, it’s probably sarcasm. But if it’s not, Ken, my goodness, you and I are both feeling like Sheldon Cooper right now, right? This is something that I think it’s sarcasm. I I believe, but I’m not certain. I’m not sure. It it deserves the flame and comfort regardless. But it like are you not watching for over a month? They’ve been the worst team in the NHL for over a month and we’re like ah scheduled loss. What’s the problem here folks? Right? Like anyways, uh if it’s not the Flame and Comfort hot take, it’s a pretty darn good joke here. But we’re going to hand it the Flame and Comfort Hot Take. Brought to you, of course, by Flame and Comfort, Manitoba’s premier supplier of fireplaces, wood stoves, inserts, and everything hearth related. 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Give your home to Pristine Roofing and Siding. Wake up call folks. you will be glad that you did. Ken, I’m gonna I’m gonna throw this at you and I’m just gonna let you kind of I’m gonna hand off the ball like a quarterback. Um, to the point of what you’re saying, uh, where there was, you know, some changes and things like that and I talked about it in the last show, what I what I take admire about the Winnipeg Jets game is that they didn’t do what I saw Buffalo do last night, which was almost like turning their back on the game repeatedly. And it’s like, well, no wonder Buffalo is constantly where they are because of the kind of things that were do they were doing. I don’t see that from the Winnipeg Jets. Um, and even the fact that, you know, garbage time, they started putting a couple more goals and you could see that they’re still pressing, right? And and you know, I I I know people would want more and I know that it’s in garbage time, but it still looked like when the when the the Edmonton Oilers took their foot off the gas pedal. And let’s say like they didn’t just let it up a little bit. They took the foot right off the gas pedal in this game. The Winnipeg Jets were there to step up a little bit offensively when they were given a chance to do so. Um, but what I think I keep seeing, Ken, because we keep seeing very uncharacteristic things from the Winnipeg Jets, mistakes by players, getting caught, uh, breakaways, all those different kind of things that, you know, we didn’t really see a lot of from the Winnipeg Jets last year. And and I’ll say this, their body language when they leave the ice after periods and head into the dressing room, it’s just so I I’m just going to put it like this, Ken. I watch this team and I feel like I’m seeing a team that has lost belief. And the Winnipeg Jets were such a team of belief last year that there was I mean the Manitoba Miracle only happens to a team that has this belief that until the bell goes we still are right in this game and we used to say I mean I remember there was a game against Colorado and Axel Jansen FIB went in with like you know there’s like six seconds left on the clock they dump the puck and he gets in steals the puck from Devonte and scores a goal. the the Mark Shley, the shot off of where they pulled the goalender and the shot that he scores uh against Minnesota early in the season last year at the end of the first period. And then within a couple games of that, it was who was it? No, the Chicago Blackhawks and Nikolai Eers, I believe, scores late to tie it up. And this was just a team that time and time again had this unshakable belief. I feel like what we’re looking at right now is a Winnipeg Jets team that has lost belief. Do you agree or not? I don’t know about lost, but it it’s def it’s definitely wavering, Sean. Um, and again, I I don’t think they’ve lost belief because teams that lose belief kind of fade into the night or, you know, go into the abyss. What are we seeing? Well, no, I’m not seeing a team quitting completely. Uh, no. No, but I I That’s what I mean. You know, I I understand what you’re saying. You don’t have to quit to lose belief. I I think quitting I I think you can lose belief. I think quitting is a lack of character. I think losing belief is a lack of seeing the hard work that you put in leading to the end goal that you’re expecting from it. No. And that’s fair. I I just I Anyways, I don’t think that they’re at that point quite yet, but they’re definitely they want to know what the heck is going on. like they’re they’re let’s just say I I’m saying you’re ahead of me on the game and you know in by the end of the home stand or in 10 games I may be coming around to your point of view here. Too warm for you. Well, good on you. You are the early adopter. This is this is this is like when you never mind. I don’t want to get into it. Kale this is the this is Kale Marbora territory from two years ago. Yes. Inside joke there. Um, yeah, it’s there are days when it looks that way for sure, but just, you know, you and I have been around this team for a long time. Uh, that isn’t the way that the core group is is wired. So, I don’t think that they’re to that stage yet. Um, but they’re definitely wondering what is going on and how are they going to fix it. But, um, you know, again, we’ll see what happens. Now, Jets have had a tough schedule. We know this. This is not an excuse. I’m glad that Josh Morrisy handled those questions the way that he did. Um, you know, good good teams find a way to battle through those things. And he said flat out, I don’t think we’ve handled this very well of late. Not getting games to overtime when you don’t have your best. So, Jets are going home. They’re off the road. It’s no more 12 and 16 on the road. No time zone business. go home and get rested up because you better be ready because the teams coming in here. Sean, what we’re seeing now is what we used to see. Jets are getting jets right now. They used to have they used to go into buildings and smell blood in the water. To your point about belief, Sean, other teams are now looking forward to playing the Jets. And we would have never said that for a lot of teams last year. And I’m not just talking about bottom feeders. Yeah, there’s teams coming in thinking that the Jets are vulnerable and that they can take advantage of this, you know, tough stretch that they’re going through. Well, I mean, look at how many teams there was a stretch of games there, four or five games in a row, wasn’t it? Where teams were putting their backup goalender out against the Winnipeg Jets. Now, I know the Jets are full-time have their backup goalender in there, which should bring us to talking uh about Comry um and the outing he has tonight. It’s another one where he’s not able to pull off the miracles that we’ve seen Connor Hellbuk pull off in the past, but it’s probably another one where if you’re if you’re desperate to blame it on your goalender, I would argue you’re desperate to be ignorant of or blind to the many failings of this team. Yes, I I think I said again, this is not a shot at Matt Heyman. We appreciate him being here, but uh he said something about rebound control and I think he’s referencing the Conor McDavid shot. And for me, Sean, that’s that’s not a rebound control issue. That’s a backchecking issue by someone who’s an incredibly reliable backer. Alex Aollowo has to have Brian Nent Hopkins there. He’s on the wrong side of him and that’s why the goal goes in. That’s not bad rebound control. That’s the best player in, you know, if not Nathan McKinnon, that’s the best player in the NHL, cutting to the middle, you know, going crossstream and Eric Hry having to make a really good save. It happens to get kicked out into a place where Ryan Nan Hopkins beats Alex Aollowo to the puck. That’s not bad rebound control for me. And again, some people want to be on Logan Stanley. No issue with Logan Stanley putting the hit on Zack Heyman. Heyman takes the hit to make a play. F3’s got to be there, Sean. Jets talk about pressuring all the time. That’s not a bad pinch where the Dman leaves his guy behind. That’s a that’s a check that has to be made on the back check. And again, outside follow is a very smart and dependable two-way player. But that’s a b that’s a one-on-one battle. He did not win with Ryan Hopkins. Um I wanted to bring this one up here uh because um Oh, where is it? Sorry, I don’t blame Con. That’s a mercy pull again. Now, you can question whether or not the Jets should have started Comry. And Sean, you understand why they did. He’s been playing great, but there were some risks given the workload for this week. Well, and and it’s why I did not think for a second that they would go with the player is because you’re talking about a guy who’s adapting to being a starting goalender for the first time. That’s a that’s a hard pull for any goalender. It’s a hard pull for Connor Hellbuck. Rarely happens with Connor Hobbuk. So, to me it seemed a little bit strange. Um, maybe they thought they were playing with house money because they got a win against the Buffalo Sabres. Um, but yeah, I I I mean, I don’t know. I may maybe Connor Halle steals a couple of these saves here and these goals and they don’t happen and then it keeps it within, you know, shooting distance. you know, maybe it’s only a three nothing lead or something like that and then the Jets get a goal and then they start coming back and put the pressure on and do all those kind of things. Except folks, what did I tell you at the beginning of the year? The Winnipeg Jets weren’t going to be the comeback team this year that they were last year because of the whole Eers element and all that kind of stuff. So even that like and that to me Ken goes back to the idea of belief. It’s just one more thing that’s been stripped away that would keep the Winnipeg Jets from having that feeling of no, you know what what they say last year, we just keep doing the right things over and over and over again and expect that it’s going to work out for us. Well, I just see a team that’s trying to do the right things and it’s not working out and and it doesn’t make sense for them that it’s not working out. But that’s because last year, you know, I don’t know, Adam Lowry just had to go here because Mason Appleton got down to the puck and pressured the guy and the only place for him to put the puck was up over in this spot here, right? And now it’s different. You can go to that spot and the puck’s not coming there anymore. Why? Because there’s missing elements that created things and it’s just like, I don’t know, maybe it’s put it like this. It’s like having faith that your soup is going to taste really great when you don’t put in salt and you don’t put in thyme and you forget the beef and you’re like, “Why doesn’t my beef stew taste like it usually does?” Right? I I I have faith. You can have all the faith in the world that you want. But it gets a little puzzling when you’ve made a dish and you’ve left a bunch of ingredients out and all of a sudden it doesn’t taste the same. And it’s not their job to be the cook, right? That’s that’s Kevin Chevoff’s job. That’s the coaching staff’s job. And so right now, I just see a players group that is just p pushing to make things happen, trying to make plays that they made last year. And being like, well, when I made this play last year, there wasn’t a guy coming crashing down on me right away. Right? And it’s because the system is different. It’s not the same. And I just think that consistency is now working against the Winnipeg Jets because all the things that they’ve learned to expect over the last couple of years from playing within their system, they can no longer learn that they they look like a they can no longer expect that system to be the same. And what it does is it takes players who’ve just been playing instinctually for a while now and their instincts are wrong and and it’s just not kind of working out. Ken, uh, we should we should, um, get to, uh, talking about the line shakeups. Um, and I guess if you’re the Winnipeg Jets, you’re trying to find growth in putting those lines out there. And you can shoot for growth with Cambrian Wealth. Grow your wealth today to reach tomorrow’s big goals. Cambrian’s wealth team can assist. Invest in your future self your way. Our pals at Camrian Wealth give you straight up investing advice and you can actually understand it and help you make a strong financial play to get there. Book an appointment at camrian.mb.ca uh and they will take real good care of you. Can give uh sweet Lou a shout out while you’re at it. Yes, sir. For realy needs that need to be met, contact our main man, Lou Ferland at Royal Leage Dynamic Realy 204791-9971 or at the office 2049895000. His email is louerland.ca. That’s lufurl an.ca. Lou Furland, excellent realtor, excellent human being, an excellent supporter of the community, including this podcast. So, Ken, outside of uh plugging sweet Lou into the lineup, I think the Winnipeg Jets have tried just about everything now because they went there. They broke up the top line at some point in this game. um which period. Yeah, Renie gave you a little bit of a sneak preview after the Montreal game. I told you the coaching staff had said that they were talking about if things didn’t change, it was time to go there and they got that one win and as soon as things started falling apart, they went there. So, that wasn’t BS. Very honest Scott Arneal talking about that. What did you take away from uh that? You I know you touched on it before, but what do you take away from the jumbling that happened? Yeah. Not a not a lot. I I it’s garbage time minutes. So, the biggest problem for the Jets still remains. The what you talked about last year, Sean, the the Jets lines all look the same. Not in terms of how they attack because the skill sets are different, but in terms of how they defended, and that is just not happening right now at all. Um, one second. What’s that show that was on ESPN? just not on anymore where when you make good points there was like boop boop boop. What show is that? Tony Reality. Yes. Uh our friend Emily Kaplan was on it all the time. Anyways, I in my head when you made the point about all the lines are supposed to look like each other. My head just went because around the horn was the show. Around the horn because that is a massive point that you just made there, Ken. Um the the the Jets top line looks like no other line on this team. Um and that idea of like the defending grinding line, no one is getting to that. Maybe they do all look alike alike, Ken, in that they’re ineffectual and they’re defensively deficient and they’re absolutely offensively not there. Right. And what we talked about, I mean, Louis de Brusk, the only thing that he could kind of muster, and you can’t blame him given the effort, what we saw, he was plugging the fourth line, like fourth line’s got Sean, we’ve been asking, you know, wondering about secondary scoring. Well, the only secondary scoring is coming from the line that couldn’t score at all for a long time. So, fourth line’s got three three goals. Yes, one of them is in a, you know, garbage time. Sure. Uh but if you’re Cole Kepky trying to build that that’s you know that’s a positive for him but fourth line can’t be the best line of those three lines on two nights in a row uh in terms of second third and fourth line when you’re looking for other things. Um you just don’t know what you’re getting right now. And Sean you you know my feelings about this. I I I thought it would be Ardi. It wasn’t going to be Shley and Connor broken up. Um, you know, I want to see a little bit more of Lowry and Valardi, maybe with Taves, maybe with Baron, whoever you put there, uh, can work. But I just think that, you know, again, like we talked about the one blended shift that the top line had together when Alex went and changed, the top line scored when they were on the ice together. So, um, in in in looking to stretch out the lineup, uh, Scott Neil basically got a goal from that line and then kind of went back to them pretty quickly. So, uh, I didn’t see any lightning in a bottle. I didn’t see immediate success. I didn’t see, you know, something that said, “Aha, that’s going to work if you leave them together for five games.” Um, you know, so that this is again, this is part of the issue. Now, uh, Gustaf Nyquist was scratched. You know, he had never been scratched in his career before. Now it’s three in a row. Um, you know, do you consider going back with him against Stars in an effort to get the offense going that right now outside of calling someone up? That that’s where the Jets are at. But, uh, when it comes to who’s going to sit, well, they’ve got lots of candidates, but there’s also some consequences attached to some of those things. And I’ll be curious to see what the lines look like. Sean, I think the Jets go back to the top line for the game against Dallas. Um, you know, having having the, you know, last change. I’ll definitely be curious to see who’s with Adam Lowry and if Lowry is going to be asked to go up against Roe Hence like he was often last year, uh, or if he’s going to be playing against Wyatt Johnston or somebody else. Um, yeah, it’s just the Jets have too many players that aren’t playing at a high enough level in in the middle six. And that’s been a huge problem. It’s not just a small problem anymore, Sean. It’s a huge problem right now for the Winnipeg Jets. Yeah. Let me just start off with moving Valardi onto that line. I I didn’t think it worked. Um Oh, agree. I think I think Valardi works very and this is the deal. Um, not to not to be diminishing of the player, but Gabe Valardi popped when he came to the Winnipeg Jets, but he popped very specifically because he got into a onto a line with, you know, a top 10 center in the NHL and a top 10 winger in the NHL. And two guys who have a ridiculous amount of of chemistry between the two of them. And he’s the kind of player they need on their line. and a big body who’s good at possession, who’s really good at like holding the puck on the boards, taking it off the boards, getting it back to the other guys, and then kind of, you know, finding those soft spots in the defense when those guys start taking your eyes in different directions. I saw once he got on to a line with uh Adam Lowry, just a very very I mean, you know, narrowly defined hockey player, right? like three guys just going straight up and down their lanes kind of no magic to it like the magic that he has coming off those players. Um it’s it’s something else and it works really really great but I think I don’t know that that works anywhere else. It’s a way of me saying I don’t think Gabe Valardi gets onto a line and then drives a different line offensively. So, that’s the question, right? Because people are bringing it up. And I will say, you know, there’s an admission here um that that uh there there’s an admission that the Winnipeg Jets didn’t really go crazy in breaking up the the top line. They haven’t broken up Kyle Connor and Mark Schiffley. Um and those are the two players that I think could actually drive a line offensively on their own, right? Like you could take, you know, all Sydney Crosby who it’s just basically like you want to get someone going, put him with Sydney Crosby and save up all the other scorers for the other lines because Sydney Crosby will take, you know, the water boy if you put skates on him that night and the assistant general manager out on the ice and he’ll get you a hat-tick that night. Um, Mark Schiffley, the the only shot I really think they have of of finding depth scoring by taking players and elevating other players. I think the only two drivers who are capable of doing that as it stands right now on this team is Mark Schiffley and Kyle Connor. I think they expected that out of Jonathan Ta. They’re not getting that out of Jonathan Ta. I think the move to the wing for Jonathan Ta, he looks a little lost to me out there. Um, and it’s kind of strange because, you know, playing center, uh, you you’d think that there is there’s more responsibility. So, you’d think that would would be the position that he looks slower in. I found he looked slower. He looks slower when he’s playing on the wing. I think the reason for that is when you know what you’re doing, you can speed things up, right? So, Jonathan Taes knows how to play center. Now, he’s a little bit in no man’s land. it doesn’t really know or isn’t used to playing the wing typically and I think that little bit of indecision is slowing him down and it’s made him look even slower. I thought tonight was, you know, a hard night to find the folks who are saying, “Oh, yeah, but he made that one really nice pass. That buys him another game kind of thing, right? I just didn’t think that’s working out.” So, I honestly at this stage I I I don’t know where you go, which is probably brings me back to the point that I made in the beginning um of like I don’t think the Jets get out of this unless they add or or change the mix on their roster because I’m looking at this and it’s it’s switching guys up and it’s switching guys up and it’s okay now let’s try and see if we can’t find that magic that existed at one time between Nomesnikov and Netheriter, right? and and oh then let’s throw Perfetti on there because there was magic between Perfetti and Nestnikov. It just feels like they’ve gone to these little things and it feels like they’re just it feels can like he’s got a Zippo lighter Scott Arneal and he’s like flicking the flint over and over and over again but there’s no fuel in that thing because everywhere he goes he’s trying to spark a fire and it’s just not working. The only thing this team has is a top line that is ablaze and continues to be ablaze. But I just I I I I don’t think you truly plum the depths of what would happen if we broke up the first line unless you take Mark Schiffley and have him on a line and Kyle Connor and have him on a line. And I think one of those two lines has to have Gabe Valardi on it. I think that that you can’t you can’t too many other guys not going. Exactly. Um, anyways, uh, it’s it’s my I I just feel like they’re spinning the wheel and it’s coming all the way back around and it’s coming around empty. Uh, and I guess I would say while we’re talking about spinning the wheel, let’s talking about wrapping a wheel around this head of mine and make this a Sean’s headband version of the Canyon Renie show. Heat. [Music] Heat. [Music] No doubt, Ken. The Jets looking for answers. If you’re looking for answers when it comes to any of your pharmaceutical needs, any of your supplemental needs, any of your health food needs, I know the people who have the answers for you. It’s the folks down at Meyers Drugs. And you know, if you want to give it a try, you just got to pick up the phone and give a call down there because they deliver anywhere within the city. Give them a try, folks. Tell them Kenny and Renie sent you. Okay, Ken, anything you want to talk about? Yes. Yes. Quickly before we go to the awards, cuz those are going to be hard to handle. Yes. Um, what was Conor McDavid doing trying to get behind Comry? Why did he think that was a route available to him? What is he doing? I don’t know. It’s just when you’re that fast, you know, like when you’re going 200 km an hour, sometimes you’re like, “Hey, I’m going to try and take that back alley there and then oops, that’s not open.” How did you think that was not going to be a car crash there? Yeah. And Eric Hry’s lucky. I know. Obviously, he wasn’t trying to hit him, but he almost elbowed him in the back of the mask. Um, that was a crazy play. Yeah. Uh I I’m going in a totally different direction here, but people were talking about uh Dbor and like what do you think of the idea that people in the search for answers are are going and talking about replacing the coach that Pete Dbor just just less than half well about a half a year ago was saying he thought was the best coach in the NHL last season. I mean, how much ro how little rope could you possibly give a guy who took a team to the president’s trophy and then turn around when things aren’t necessarily working? Especially because to me, I think what stands out as the biggest culprit for the Jets this year is the mix that has changed. His system we knew worked last year. It just doesn’t seem like they’re able to execute the system. Is that the coach’s fault? No, it’s double wakeup call territory here. Um, yeah, I mean, Scott Neil’s looking for answers and and he’s part of wanting to change what has been happening, but um, firing the coach is a copout. It should not be done. And it’s a ridiculous notion is that’s all I mean, really, that’s all I have to say. There’s nothing else to say about it. I mean to going there in this direction would be I mean for for maybe the most patient organization in in hockey and maybe the most patient organization in pro sports uh the idea of letting go of their coach that quickly is is asinine and it would be considered that way within the organization. I’m not saying the thought process by people out there saying that, but um just the idea of moving on from someone who had the success and had a team playing like they were last year. You know, that coach knows how to get a team executing something. Exactly. And it’s got nothing to do with loyalty. The guy literally posted the best record in franchise history last year. Yeah. Yes. And brought a trophy that will hang in the rafters for the rest of time for the Winnipeg Jets. Right. One that they’ve never won before. That’s a massive accomplishment to turn around and f you know that that’s the kind of move Ken um that I think sends an organization into a tail spin. Do you know what I mean? When you take a look at organizations bad organizations act like for sure that that’s how you end up getting organizations where you know we tell those stories in the broadcast of this is their fifth coach in the last 18 months and stuff like that. And those teams those teams are never like the really really good teams. That’s never like, “Hey, the Colorado Avalanche or whoever, you know, they just keep firing and firing and firing people like that to that’s a knee-jerk reaction.” Uh uh calling for the firing of a head coach in a situation like this beyond knee-jerk reactions. Anyways, get to the Johnston Group got you covered play of the game. Ken, do you have one? I was gonna say it goes to Thomas Militch for coming off the bench maybe, but uh I didn’t see a lot of got you covered moments by the Jets. uh over the course of the game to be honest. So um you know in a game that he probably prepared to start until he was told he wasn’t starting uh Thomas Militch coming off the bench and hey I get it. It would have been tough to throw a young kid and you know in up in the NHL for basically a week and change into the fire against a team that put up nine against the Seattle Kraken. But um anyways I thought you know Militch came in turned aside 10 of 12 you know did what was asked of him in relief. So, I mean, in in a night where uh not a lot of people had people covered, I guess the other honorable mention can go to Gabe Valardi for, you know, having a blended shift for 20 seconds and scoring, you know, to break up the shutout. But outside of that, I don’t really have anything unless you have something that I’ve forgotten. I’m going to give it to Cole Keepy for having the bottom the bottom nine cover so that we cannot say no goals from the bottom nine. So, for a second straight game, he’s taken and popped that balloon and and made it a little bit less of a conversation. Uh, so anyways, that would be my uh and Ken’s Johnson Group got you covered play of the game, the Kenny and Renie OGs. And hey, do you run a small business in Canada? Well, you should look to Canada’s number one employee benefits plan, Chambers Plan, to give you a competitive edge. Chambers Plan is the simple, stable, smart choice for over 30,000 businesses countrywide. Visit chamberpl.ca to learn more. And can uh Jason uh I can’t read it here, but he’s got us covered. He says, “You are both so wrong.” And I Yeah, Jason Gill, I believe this is about which part? I think I I think the last thing that we are the coaches. Okay. I I I think that’s what this is. So tell us why we’re wrong, Jason. Anyone can say we’re wrong. If you can give us an explanation of why the Buffalo Sabres model is the one that you’re interested in putting forth here, um, please let us know. Or if we’ve got it wrong and it’s something else that you think we’re wrong for, fire away. Let us know. We’d like to know. Anyways, in the meantime, we have to admit when we’re wrong. Yes. Yes, I did at the beginning of the broadcast here. Anyways, um if if uh we’d love to see the response here. Uh in the meantime, let’s go to the hashtag the kegs save of the game. Another award that is going to be really really hard. Hard for the Jets because they didn’t make many saves and hard for the Oilers because they really didn’t have to face a lot a lot at the start of the game. By the way, the other part of this is like what was it? Nine shots by the Winnipeg Jets after the first two periods. Yeah. Like here’s the other thing about the Eric Comry criticism. Like I get it. You’re frustrated. You’re used to Conor Hob and all this kind of stuff. But like my goodness, if you really think the goalending is a problem, shouldn’t you at least as the Winnipeg Jets or shouldn’t you expect a team like the Winnipeg Jets to put up more shots than they’ve been putting up night after night after night where they basically can’t get shots on net and you’re thinking the goalender is the problem when your offense is absolutely firing on no cylinders and they can’t time in the other zone. Yeah. Did you find a keg save of the game? I do. I have one and it’s god Ken it’s very unconventional and it has not been done h might have been done before once for Matt Prefontaine. The keg save of the game belongs to Noah Seagull for his coach’s challenge on the offside on the Mark Shley goal which only temporarily saved Stuart Skinner shutout. Now, again, it would have been much more impactful had that actually been a shut out, but that’s how far down the road we are today, Sean, in terms of looking for one that Noah Seagull is getting his first keg save of the game. Uh, as brought to you by our good friends at the keg. Ah, good stuff. Okay, that’s uh that’s the hashtag the keg save of the game. Uh, bless you, Ken, for finding one. Uh, doesn’t matter though if Ken thinks that matters what you think. Share with us your hashtag the keg save the game. You’re automatically entered to win a $50 gift certificate usable at any of the three fine keg locations here in the city of Winnipeg. Each location finer than the last. And our winner from our last show would be T Spider-Man 78. Tp Spider-Man 78. You know what to do. Direct message me at SNS Shan Reynolds. Send me your full name. Send me an email. I’ll have the fine folks at the keg send you a $50 gift certificate usable at any of the three fine keg locations here in the city of Winnipeg. Each location finer than the last. Quickly, Jason says uh he’s talking about when Vegas fired Dbor, but it wasn’t an immediate reaction. It was after they had been to the Western Conference final, right? Or to the cup final. So, uh I don’t see that as that that’s the exception to the rule. That’s not how most people act. And there were other things that play in Vegas when that happened. I mean, well, for sure. Like, it was the the coach wanted out of there. Like that it’s it’s a little bit of apples and oranges, right? Uh it was related to how the goalies were handled again. This was same thing that happened to Pete in Dallas. So, that’s not a good comparison, Jason. Sorry. It did happen. Agreed. But that’s not how organizations, winning organizations generally act. Well, I I’ll say this. I think I think Jason got came up with a a pretty decent a pretty decent and an interesting example for what he’s doing here. But I mean, at some point you’re gonna find, you know, people who are fired. Maybe maybe you want to use the example of the Florida Panthers who turn around and fire Andrew Brunette after winning the president’s trophy, right? In the year that they lose the or sorry that they win the president’s trophy, he gets fired. That’s another example of that. Um, I just don’t think that uh like in a case like that, I think you need to be able to put your thumbrint on it and say this is very specifically the coach’s fault. Like if you’re going to make that turn Yeah. and as that hard after winning a president’s trophy, there needs to be, to your point, examples of, well, he’s clashing with the players behind the scenes. This thing happened and we weren’t very happy with how that went and there’s a tension there. There’s no tension between Scott Arneal and the Winnipeg Jets players. There’s no problem. There’s no him clashing in the back rooms with people. There’s a whole bunch of confused people right now who seem to be, you know, kind of blown away that they can’t play their system. And honestly, uh, Scott O’Neal looks as as as confused as anybody. Now, maybe someone would use that as an indictment on him. Um, but if you I mean coaches aren’t perfect and let’s be honest. I think that there’s how many coaches I the one thing I’m I think that you need to point out here is what’s happening in Winnipeg happens all the time. Like teams go from being playoff teams to missing the playoffs the next year. And coaches a lot of times think things are going to be good and then they don’t have the answers because what happens is the mix goes off like it seems to have gone off here. And those things aren’t easy to fix. They’re hard to fix. Right? So, what is happening in Winnipeg right now? It’s frustrating. If you’re a fan, you were expecting to be contending for a cup this year. Yeah, it’s going to be frustrating. But I’ve been talking a lot with people. What you’re seeing right now, a team that just it doesn’t quite have the personnel it needs to execute the system it wants to execute. That’s the story of almost every team in the NHL. And that’s why they’re trying to get guys. That’s why the Montreal Canadiens are trying to get a second line center right now because they don’t feel they can execute what they’re trying to without that player and that’s why the Edmonton Oilers are always looking for a goalender and so on and so forth. Teams are only as good as their personnel. And I think the Jets thought they had what they needed here. I think they’re finding out that they don’t. And that’s just the fact of life in in the NHL is very few teams have every single position filled the way that they want every single position filled. Ken, you had something to say. Right on. Last one to sorry, Kelsey Elias. Bube as an example. Bube got fired four years after winning the cup, not the year after. Again, they’re talking about him coming in and winning. They’re talking about Buru coming in and winning. Oh, we’re not saying people can’t come in and win. That’s that’s not what we’re talking about. We’re not saying people panic. And Brby was in his sixth year as the coach and the Blues looked terrible when he was fired. It wasn’t that he was fired the year after they won the cup. I mean, so so they’re saying Yeah. I mean the they seem to have this backwards. They’re coming in afterwards, right? Um we’re saying that in the case of a lot of these situations here, um those are the next guys who come in. They didn’t necessar now or in some of these cases if you want to put those names up again some of those coaches were brought in because they thought let’s go draft next guy right so that’s fine but then you tell me the coach that’s waiting in the wings that’s saying I know how to make this Winnipeg Jets team work and and and again again there needs to be a reason a definitive reason to want to move on and the the funny part about this it’s a moot point it is a moot point Ken the uh uh the it’s a moot point because the Winnipeg Jets are not going to do that. I can tell you that right now. People can debate it all day long. Um it’s not happening. Anyways, I got to get up and coach a a curling game tomorrow morning. So, I’m going to get out of here. Um before I do, I’d like to say to all these late night folks, uh if you appreciate the conversations that are happening in the spaces, we appreciate you showing up like you do at times like this. 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Jets run out of the rink early as the Oilers run roughshod over a wounded Jets team that once again looked a league below their opponent. You may want to get those panic buttons ready folks.

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