3-Goalie Situation Ending Soon w/ Paul Hamilton | The Jeremy and Joe Show
Paul Hamilton. His appearance brought to you by Railax Honda. Railax, we got this. Paul was at yesterday’s press conference, the introductory press conference for the Savers new general manager, Yarmmo Kalinan. We’ll get his thoughts on it and uh moving forward like what other changes could come if anything as uh he joins us here on this on this Tuesday morning. Coming up later in the show, 8:00, Joe Marino and 9:00, Yarmmo Kalan himself scheduled to join us. So um stick with us. You know, we got plenty of Bills and Browns coverage on the way as well. Paul, how are you today? Good morning. >> I am well. How are you? >> I’m all right. Had a good time listening to the press conference. You know, it’s uh it’s a introductory presser. It’s hard to get these wrong. And if you sound buttoned up and sound professional, you kind of get it right. I thought Yarmokinan sounded like a guy that’s been in that chair before, you know, like he he had a command about him and sounded like a GM. So, you know, I that’s a passing grade if nothing else. >> Well, yeah. I mean, he knows what to expect. he knows what he expects from players, coaches, people inside the organization and uh it sounds like he’s not going to accept anything less. And um that’s one of the things that you know asking around about him uh you know when he first got here I started asking people I know and that I see in the press box and about him and every single person who knew him or worked with him or um knew people that did talked about how he’s a nononsense guy that he will look you in the eye and tell you exactly what he thinks. He’ll have those hard conversations with you, no matter how uncomfortable they might be. And first thing out of his mouth was, you know, he was upset at what he had seen this year because there were too many games where, you know, the team got outworked. and he goes, we his quote was, “Well, there was games where we looked like we thought it was going to be easy and we lost because we got outworked and that’s unacceptable.” And Lindy Ruff said the same thing when he came back and for a while there were consequences and he were was holding people accountable. That seems to have gone away. um you know when when I hear whether they got worked or whatever I haven’t seen too many players uh get benched anymore or uh not not wind up in the lineup and it’s so I’ll be interested to see okay it’s unacceptable what’s going to happen when you see it >> right >> you know >> and and even if you’ve thought that to this point Paul like that kind of sounds to me like [snorts] you are that’s a critique of the coaching staff isn’t it like you’re not getting these guys to do this on a night-to-ight basis. Who does that who does that fall on? That’s usually the coaches. >> Well, no. I think he was that was more at the players when he says something like, “Uh, we looked like we thought it was going to be easy.” Um, I don’t think that necessarily comes from the coaches. I think where it comes from is you know what I look at is what what’s the co when it’s the coach’s problem is why is that okay it’s unacceptable and we hear in in the locker room well that’s unacceptable and we hear after the game that’s unacceptable but why are there no consequences when I watch the same players make the same mistakes over and over again um and they’re they’re still playing or they’re still, you know, they don’t wind up on the bench anymore. It just there were consequences before, but you know, when he when he the way he worded that, that’s more at the players. He goes when he’s talking about it looked like we thought it was going to be easy. Well, the coaches are never going to act like it’s going to be easy. And the players I think sometimes get are the ones that get overconfident as and Ta Thompson has addressed this many times. Uh you know like we we we get full of ourselves. We we win two or two two or three games and then we get full of ourselves and then we think it’s going to be easy and you know he gets disgusted. To me that’s more on the leadership group on this team. >> Yeah. >> Holding people accountable as as players >> and uh more than coaches. I was I guess the what I was thinking for that is that it’s the coach’s job to get that out of the players. And if you don’t think it’s the coaches, then you would think that the players have a DNA problem when it comes to that. And then if that’s where you end up, then I guess you’re talking about wholesale changes. >> Yeah, definitely. I mean, if it’s it happens too much, [snorts] it really does. Uh, you know, I hear that after games way too much and have for a while now, even before Lindy Rush showed up. And, you know, it’s I always look at it too if if you’re in the n if you’re in the National Hockey League and you need a coach to motivate you, you shouldn’t be in the National Hockey League. Um, you should be well past that in your career. Uh, how did you get to the National Hockey League? uh of course on talent, but how did you get here if you need coaches to motivate you? Um most most players don’t need coaches to motivate them because they can motivate themselves or they never would have made it to the NHL. Um, but when it doesn’t happen time and time again, I think the consequences have stopped being there for these these players where when Lindy Ruff first got here, I think he he was holding players accountable because that was the big thing, you know, well, players are going to be held accountable. It’s like almost like, well, Granado didn’t do that. And he didn’t because he didn’t believe in it. He doesn’t believe in benchings. uh he he feels all that does is make players more uptight and they don’t play freely but uh Lindy Ruff believed in him to start but it doesn’t seem like he believes in him as much now. Felic Granado, Paul, part of his problem might have been he didn’t have many players. He didn’t have depth he felt like he could go to and still win. And the Sabres, do they have that depth now? Like we’ve seen the young guys come up and and look kind of good like the Oland the Oland thing sending him down where Lindy basically talked about how he did nothing wrong. He went down for the numbers game of it. Like that is part of the problem, is it? Not if you want to bench somebody, you could bench somebody, but you can’t put the third goalie in there like in in their spot. So like that’s that’s a spot where the Olland thing and the three goalie thing could have really hamstrung the coach himself which would uh you know push the GM a little further out >> and the three goalie thing was talked about and he he admitted that that that has to end. You know it’s right now it’s fine. you know, he said right now Ellis is injured, so you only have two goalenders, but he agrees that it’s just not something that’s going to work and they’re going to have to make a decision, you know, of what they’re going to do uh with three goalenders cuz he he he admitted that they need to get it down to two and then you’re not worried about Austin uh having to go down when you have that extra roster spot. where where would your uh it’s going to be different maybe every day. Like do we have any idea who they would be looking to on that? He did talk about Ellis and like why they wanted him in the first place, Paul? Um I don’t know. Does does Lion make the most sense or like would that be your guess at this point if you had to pick one of who they’ll actually move on from when everybody’s healthy? >> If it were me, I would um I would be angling towards keeping Ellis. I’ve liked what I’ve seen of him for the most part. I think there’s a there’s a possibility and we can’t tell. We haven’t seen a big enough sample. We we we really haven’t seen a big enough sample of what Devin Levi is going to be in the NHL. Um but I I really liked what I’ve seen of Ellis. I like his rebound control. Uh except for one game, the Calgary game. Um and I think he might have a pretty good opportunity maybe to be the best of the bunch. So I I pro now I wouldn’t ignore a team like if the St. Louis Blues called because and want him back and think well it doesn’t look like they’re going to wave him. So if we want it back we’re going to trade for him. I would certainly listen to to what what what would be offered but if it were me I would I would put both Lion and Lucan and out there. I’d have word out there that they’re e either one is available and I would listen to the offers and I would take the best offer between the two and and move move one of them from there and keep then go with the other two. >> But I would keep Ellis in the mix if I could. But again, I would not ignore calls about him if somebody wanted to call and about it. But that’s the way I would be looking at it. looking to and Lion with, you know, being a veteran, any team that’s looking for a goalender right now that has a goalender out. Now, the uh Winnipeg Jets have gotten their goalender back, but you know, I I thought that would be a perfect landing spot for him because Comry is not the answer. I mean, when when you when you have Hellbuck out for a long period of time, they need to do better than Comry. But the problem is that Hellbuck likes comry very much. So I think to satisfy him, they keep him around, but he he’s not a very good backup. I think Lion would be a huge step up as a backup goalender. And I think, you know, than what uh Comry is for them. >> Paul Hamilton with us. Paul, of the things that Yarmmo said yesterday, he he answered the question about resources and cap space when when he said that they have the ability to spend to the cap. Did did he not answer that to you differently than Adams used to? I feel like Adams always used to dance around that question and Yarmmo decided sound a lot more direct yesterday that they’ll have the ability to spend to the cap. >> No, I disagree. Adams always said we have the resources to spend whatever we want. there is no uh no budget you know that he has to follow as far as from the salary cap standpoint. Uh he always talked about that Terry Pagula allows him to spend whatever he he needs to spend out there and um you know I I I didn’t think even last year was a big deal quite honestly to be five millionish o under the cap. Fine. If you’re 13 million, then yes, that’s a problem. Or if I had heard at some point that they didn’t make a trade because that would have, you know, raised their cap to a to a place uh you know, but I never heard that. I never heard that, well, they didn’t acquire a player because they can’t they have this internal budget and they can’t go over it even though they had the cap space to make that trade. I never heard that once. And this year they’re approximately about 2.9 under the cap. So I I’ve I’ve never agreed with that. I’ve never thought it’s been a huge problem. And and you know for for well when Adams first started, yeah, they had to get players to get up to the salary cap floor >> because their plan was well we have young players. We’re going to develop them and we’re going to resign them which they did. you know, Samuelson, they resigned and Thompson they resigned and Dalene they resigned and Power they resigned and Cousins you know the whole list and that you know boosted it up where they didn’t have to start you know make trades for guys who were going to be injured for the rest of their careers so they get to the salary cap floor but being what they are now almost it’s just under three million around the cap to me that’s spending to the cap I don’t I don’t I do not think that was a problem and I don’t think it ever has. >> Do you think a bigger question than yesterday more than would this this team spend the cap was the question about autonomy and Terry Pagula and on one hand you know what what could Yarmmo say there but on the other hand you know like it’s tough to just say like well the guy’s lying when he says that yesterday. >> Yeah I’m not going to accuse people lying when I’m not in their in their meetings and and that type of thing. Uh uh I I think the difference what you might be getting at is I think Adams could not make moves without the approval of Terry Pagoula. >> Mhm. >> Right now it sounds like we’ll be in contact with Terry Pagula. We’ll we’ll let him know what’s going on, but it sounds like he is he has control of if he thinks a trade needs to be made, he he can make it. >> You know, he doesn’t have to ask permission. And I think that’s the difference. I think you know the for Kevin Adams he basically what he anytime he wanted to do something he had to ask permission to do it. So um I think that that helps. I mean you’ve hired a GM with experience who you know was the GM of the of the Blue Jackets for 11 years and he knows what he’s doing. and let your people that you hire to do the job, let them do the job. He goes, if he has questions, I’ll answer them. That’s fine. But he said, I’ve been given the autonomy to do what I see fit to make this team a better team, and I think that includes making trades or or whatever that might be. >> Paul Hamilton with us on the Wester hotline. Yarmmo Kalinan introduced to the media yesterday uh on Paul at the coaching staff and maybe more things that could come. He said that everything’s going to be evaluated. Would you be surprised at this point if nothing else between maybe the coaching staff and the hockey department happened in the foreseeable future? Like do you think that this it’s possible that this could be it? Or was the way he talked yesterday giving you pause that there could be more coming? No, I think there could be more coming. I mean, he has people that were he surrounded himself with in Columbus that I’m sure that he would probably like to work with again, people he trusts and he would like to surround himself with. I mean, let’s face it. I mean, first of all, Adams gets the job and he’s not qualified for the job. And then the reason he gets the job is because Jason Botrol, who was a a hockey man, wasn’t wasn’t willing to gut the hockey department. And Adams was willing to do that. And Adams was criticized by some very wellrespected hockey people. Why did you take the job when part of taking the job was on your first day, you had to basically fire X amount of people and gut the hockey department. I mean, that was that’s, you know, what he wound up doing. And then he winds up uh you know having a guy the same guy doing amateur scouting and pro scouting. Probably should not be in charge of either one. He had never done either one either job of director of pro scouting or director of amateur scouting and he’s in charge of both and probably shouldn’t have been in charge of any of them. So now you’ve got a guy who shouldn’t be the GM, a guy that shouldn’t be in charge of the scouting, and uh that’s what I think will end. I think there will be more experience put into the hockey department uh when he surrounds himself with people that he knows and he wants around. Um and he was asked straight up if Lindy Ruff what this future of his in the organization and he was non-committal. You know, it’s like he he did talk about Lindy Ruff being, you know, what his strengths are and what he has seen from him. >> But when he was, you know, asked, well, does that mean Lindy Ruff is staying? His comment was, well, we are evaluating everything. Everything will be evaluated, and that means players, that means coaching staff, that means the hockey department. Yeah. So he there was no vote of confidence after he talked about how good Lindy Ruff is in his preparations and that his record speaks for itself and and all that. He didn’t say, “Well, no, Lindy Ruff is staying.” He said basically he’ll be evaluated like everybody else will be evaluated. >> Do you even get the sense, Paul, that Lindy wants to keep doing this? >> [snorts] >> He was so upset last year that it went the way it went and blamed himself because he felt that he overestimated some of the guys on this team and and and felt that he let the community down. That’s why he wants to keep doing it, I think, is because I think he feels the fans deserve better than what they’ve gotten in the last 14 years. and he felt they deserved better last year and he felt he let them down as the coach of the team. So I he was really looking forward to doing that. So I don’t think that’s changed at all, you know, in his mind. So you know whether he wants more than this year as far because this is the end I Well, Adams supposedly I guess got an extra year added to his contract when Kalinan showed up which still has me scratching my head. I don’t get it. Um, but uh I don’t So I don’t think Lindy Ruff got an extra year also, but who knows? I mean, they this this owner throws contract extensions around and then he gets all upset when he has to repay people for not working because he’s got to fire him. >> Then of course there’s the the other part of that would be Paul, even if he Lindy wants to like it’s not a is the position his as long as he wants it. >> No, I don’t think it is. >> I wouldn’t think so either. I mean, it might not be his tomorrow when when they when they come on the ice. I mean, I would imagine that uh that evaluation with Lindy Ruff probably came right after they sp that he talked with us, you know, because the coaching staff was in were in the building, even if the players aren’t in the building and um some of them were, but uh the coaches are always there. So, I I I don’t think that they would have put that on hold. I’m sure that was probably talked about uh immediately after he spoke with us. >> If something did happen, Paul, I’m sure I’ve asked you about this guy like four different times in history over this playoff drought. Uh the Tordella ideas getting some run just because he has worked with Kalinan in the past. Do you have an opinion on that as an idea if there was a coaching change? >> Um the two names that are thrown around, Dbor and Tortoella, I would go with Dbor first. um both wear out their welcomes rather quickly. They both are good coaches and they both will in the beginning get good things out of their players and get good results. But coaches like that tend to wear on players after a while and the message just goes away. I I’ll I’ll use Phil Hley as an example. Of course, he doesn’t have the the resume at those two, but the he yelled and screamed every single practice. I mean, he was screaming at them all the time. And after a while, I just sat there and thought, “These guys are not paying attention at all because it just became noise after a while because all he did is scream at him and they they just start it just goes over your head after a while. It’s at the beginning it’s like, oh, oh yeah, okay.” you know, and you’re kind of on your toes when you hear it. But when you hear it all day, every day, it just it becomes the normal noise of the day and the the shock factor, so to speak, of standing there screaming and yelling at people just doesn’t work anymore. >> Yeah. Paul Hamilton, his appearance brought to Rails Honda. Rayax, we got this. All right, Paul, tomorrow night, Philadelphia. We’ll see if they can uh usher in the Kalinan era with a win. And but by the way, very quickly uh I know you had retweeted uh at uh and I did too. There was a panel uh that um Derek Greger was on and everything. And one of the interesting things that came out of that was, you know, Adams had told him that what the Tuck Camp was looking for was just a shade over Kempy. I always said it should be maybe under Kempy. So I I actually crunched some numbers and when you look at their better years, which is the last three or four years for each of them, >> they both are averaging 33 goals a year. Tuck is averaging 40 assists and Kempy 30 assists. So Tuck is averaging maybe 10 points a year more than Kempy is in the last three or four years when they both really kind of upped their production. That’s why I looked at that. But when you look at their career over 82 games, Tuck averages 26 goals, Kempy 25, Tuck 60 points, Kempy 53. So actually, that’s not a bad number. I was thinking maybe a little bit under Kemp, but if he’s just a little bit above him, numbers maybe kind of prove that out. >> All right. And that would be around like 11 million a year, right? It would be a hair over Kempe >> approximately. Yeah, you could still keep it under 11. uh Kempy for some I think 107 sticks in my mind without looking it up real quick because I know we don’t have time but uh it’s right in that area there. >> Yep. All right. Thanks Paul. >> Take care. The Alex tuck decision looms.
Jeremy White and Joe DiBiase are joined by Buffalo Sabres beat reporter Paul Hamilton to recap Jarmo Kekäläinen’s first press conference as Sabres GM. Paul highlights Kekäläinen’s clear passion for the game and his determination to ensure the team elevates their effort. Paul touches on the players consistently getting too high on themselves. They also touch on Kekäläinen’s comments about the resources he will have available to him, which has always been a story with the Sabres.
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18 comments
How is this drone the Sabre's beat reporter?? These two guys are half asleep.
Paul Hamilton saying 5 million under the cap doesn’t matter is ridiculous. Do you want to make the playoffs or not Paul
Best of Luck to Kekalainen, here is my view: Devon Levi is the future Goalie, and Torts,No!
Hamilton has no insider knowledge and just spouts his opinions as if it's investigative journalism. The answer to every question is just, "what I'd do…", "if it were me…", etc etc. Man, nobody cares what you would do.
We lack grit and a physical competent D
Maybe we can hope that Hamilton receives same fate as Adams.
This is all BS,, Since when does the GM dictate who plays or doesn't, it's on the coach who gets benched, so why changing GM's is this going to change anything, think about this. IT's all BS, they have to change Coaches, get a guy that has no connection to the Sabre's. They most likely are not changing coaches and staff mid-season, just not happening. If the Sabrette's lose 5-6 in a row, then you may see a change. So if a player in the first 30 games doesn't put an effort in and doesn't get benched why would he now get benched now with the same coach ALL lip service
Nah, it's on the coaches
Lindy and the entire staff should be fired
Aren’t the Sabres prevented from trading Ellis this year? Their only option is to waive him?
Also, there is a difference between saying “we have all the resources we need” and “we can spend to the cap.”
Sneaky Joe got Jacked Up by Paul.
I just hope Kekalainen doesn’t hire Tortarella
Stop trying to get Ruff fired 😤. We don't have a Ruff issue. We asst coaches issue. Goaltending issue
Fuck Torts !!!!! He's an antique
Owen Power needs to be shipped out ASAP
trading anybody, but UPL is stupid
Good thing paul makes sure to correct sleepy joe
So did Kulich die??