Stavenhagen shares quote on if Tigers will acquire an impact bat -Harris: “Just because a lot of the names look the same, doesn’t mean the team is the same. From the day I got here I articulated a vision built around development. If we’re going to build around development this is what it looks like”
Stavenhagen shares quote on if Tigers will acquire an impact bat -Harris: "Just because a lot of the names look the same, doesn't mean the team is the same. From the day I got here I articulated a vision built around development. If we're going to build around development this is what it looks like"
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Quote is from Jansen signing press conference.
Steckley immediately coming in “Hell yeah its a form of risk bro, it could be the same guys and they could not be good” made me laugh
Scott Harris is cancer
Well, yeah. The same players could improve. They could also be worse. lol.
Like, Zach McKinstry for example. He’s a prime example to go back to being a bad bat. Javy Baez, too. What is Tork? What if he hits 10 home runs again? Is Carp going to walk less than 4% of the time again? I don’t expect everything to go worse than last year but the tigers have a lot of regression candidates.
Didn’t Hinch literally say it wouldn’t be wise to run it back? So what changed?
That’s an interesting perspective especially when it came out as part of the whole Jansen signing. Could the exact same logic be applied to the pitching/bullpen? I mean, why not just run it all back and you know develop.
Idk how can be a diehard fan of this regime for this team when the president of baseball ops sounds like a complete idiot.
Yup, the definition of insanity right here.
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I struggle with this mentality. On one hand, what Harris is saying could be theoretically correct. The team was a top-ish offense for the majority of the season, and fell off a cliff when it mattered most. Water should find its level somewhere in the middle. They also will have the infusion of two top-10 prospects at some point, in addition to (you hope) continued development from Greene, Torkelson, Dingler, Carpenter, Keith, etc.
But you could just as easily make the case that this team was punching above their weight in the first half, and players like Baez, McKinstry and even Torres had outlier seasons and are due for some regression. You can also say that any of Greene, Torkelson, Carpenter, Dingler, etc. have *already* hit their ceilings, so their output will at best be the same this coming season, if not a little worse.
Ultimately, this is a team that was on the doorstep of the ALCS two years in a row with very young core players and more on the way. They’ve made small improvements to the bullpen and have the best pitcher in the league. But the fact remains that they stalled out on that same doorstep with this same team two years running with no major improvements on the horizon.
My personal belief is that they are in dire need of one more bat and the rotation is shaky at best behind Skubal. Third base continues to be a black hole, and the strikeouts are a real concern up and down the lineup. I also don’t anticipate McGonigle or Clark to be immediate difference makers, so a signing or significant trade to update the offense is needed if they truly want to contend in 2026.
Evan petzold has an article on today’s freep saying the same thing. And I quote “the majority of our growth as an offense is going to come from within. It’s going to come from that first group continuing to get better and step into their prime. It’s going to come from that second group making the leaps that the first group made. It’s going to come from the next wave of some of the best prospects in all of baseball really starting to make that leap into the big leagues” – Scott Harris
This just further confirms the Tigers are not a serious team.
Let’s go for round 3 of sneaking into the playoffs before a disappointing loss in the ALDS. Third time’s the charm!
Scott might be the most risk adverse GM in the league. He’s terrified to make any sort of long term investment. The only way we’re getting an upgrade on offense is if someone like Bichette or Bregman want a 1 year deal.
“The last two years, this team overachieved like crazy because AJ Hinch is a wizard. We’re not as close as fans want to believe, and signing every big name in free agency and jumping on every available star for a trade every single year isn’t sustainable”
So the answer is no
Yeah Harris realizes that can go both ways right?
Just because you brought all the same guys back doesn’t mean they are all gonna do what they did last year
For exemple in 2024 Mckinstry was so terrible for most of the year at the plate that he was at serious risk of losing his job until he managed to save himself in 2025
Tork after 2023 fell back into the gran canyon and regressed tremendously looking like he was dead and then swung back the other way again
Just because you brought back the same players doesn’t just mean the team can end up being better
It also means the team could definitely end up being worse because some players fall back to earth or regress again
Harris is a fucking coward who would rather do nothing than make an impactful move to try to improve the team. I’m fucking done with him if we go into spring training with no attempt to improve the offense.
Look, if you aren’t going to bother getting better, and you want to stick to your 2027/2028 time frame, sell Skubal. Stop with the nonsense half measures. Go in or go out.
To translate “Our offseason is done and we are praying on everyone to get better and not regress.”
This is just dumb I swear if they start the season with Sweeney at short I’m going to lose it
Didn’t the regression to the norm already begin about July of last year?
This is the Atlanta Braves/ Houston Astros approach. It’s favors sustainability over big splashes, knowing that they can bust a la San Diego, Angels, Mets. Tigers fans need to remember that this team is 1-2 years ahead of it’s window. You have 26 guys with only like 3-4 in the prime years. The vast majority are still growing and developing and you have some ridiculous talent coming in the very near future. The only guys I’d like to see they make a play for are Bichette, Tucker and maybe Bellinger (could use an upgrade at SS or OF, even with McGonigle and Clark on the way). Bregman is too much for this age 32-38 seasons. Mets won last offseason and didn’t make the playoffs.
The only position that’s really viable to improve is 3B, and that’s also a tough market. I don’t expect them to get a positionplayer at this point.
Running it back with a lineup that could barely put the ball in play at season’s end is a choice.
Seriously, game 5 against the Mariners might still be going if Seattle were as inept at the plate as the Tigers.
Oh yeah, they’re going to lose Skubal one way or another too.
Yay?
Bro, sign a guy and stop rosterbating like this is a fantasy football league.
He just comes across so unlikable
I’m convinced that this team will look a lot like the last 2 seasons. This is the Harris way and as much as we wish him to be a splash signing type of guy, he just isn’t. Most of the team will have to perform better than last year to see a result that is better than last year. No one player is coming to town that’s going to save us.
Pardon me stewardess, I speak Harris. Translation: We ain’t doing shit.
I think it’s time for Tigs fans to accept we’re never gonna spend like we did when Mr I was about to pass. We aren’t a big market team, we’re not gonna act like one.
Harris and Hinch and shown they value roster flexibility and guys with options. A 6-year deal for a guy like Bregman only limits that.
Remember, if we’re consistently in the playoffs, we’re gonna get hot at one point and stand a chance at winning. I’d much rather do that in the same way as Cleveland or Milwaukee than Philly, for instance. The wheels in Philly are gonna come off, they’ll be paying Schwarber and Harper WELL after they stop being productive.
Churning the roster over and over sucks, and we won’t get to be as attached to players. Tf that’s the price to be paid to have a consistent playoff/division contender then I think that’s the way
Just straight gas lighting
We could easily add bregman or bichette to the infield for 4-5 years and not block anyone
GT is a one year deal. Javy gone soon as well
The only reason they aren’t spending 30,000,000 on an all star infielder is pizza boy is cheap
Remember when they said “when the time is right we will spend”
Back to back QF appearances and the last season of Skubal
The time is right now.