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This is Jets at noon with Cameron Vitus and Jim Toth on 680 CJ OB. We’ve been kind of saying that for a while. That’s part of your job. It’s what you get paid for. >> Uh show up, do your job, and you know what? We have to do it. Um more consistent with more bodies and more more people. And you know, that just that’s for us that’s something that we got to it doesn’t get any easier going into Colorado. So, at the end of the day, it’s just uh you know, find a way individually first to come out and put your best foot forward and then as a group, we need to be more consistent throughout the you know, the 60 minutes. Scott Neil one- nothing defeat to the St. Louis Blues. Jets and Noon is brought to you by Wash Method Car Wash 690 St. An’s Road. VIP take on the text line to win a VIP car wash from our good friends at Wash Method 2047806868. We’ll announce the winner later in the program. I’m coming at you live from the Boston Pizza studio for gourmet pizza and pasta. Bring the team to Boston Pizza Jim Toth. It is all so tiresome. >> Yeah. >> Same same thing. >> Definition of insanity. >> Well, yeah. It’s the starts, >> but it’s not because they keep trying different things and different lines. Um, so Mike Gon, our great um, technical producer and IT guy, was just in here and he said, “I don’t know why he doesn’t try Baron on the second line center. What do you have to lose? What do you have to lose?” And and we had a great conversation because he came around and agreed that um, not just cuz he agreed, but we had this brief conversation of >> um, it’s because it’s not gone. It’s in every week they play a good game or good enough to get a point. >> They’ll have like a a good period. They’ll have a good period. Even in a game they’ll lose, they’ll have two good periods and then something will go right. Like Carolina, they didn’t play well, but going into the third it was 1-1. >> Okay. So, >> second period was great. First period wasn’t. >> So, so before we get into what did what didn’t happen yesterday, like like the Jets start and a lot of other things. Uh what what went well last in last night’s game >> for the Jets? >> Well, last I know, but my point to the overall why don’t you just like there’s a lot of people go just call up three prospects. >> Yeah. >> Mike’s like just put Baron at second line center. I don’t hate that idea of Baron at second line center at this point, but I’m like the reason he doesn’t just and he did once total chaos the lines. >> Correct. >> Um is because there’s pockets of it still there as small as they are. Every week they have three to four games and every week they have one game where it looks to be like it’s coming back or at least two periods of a game. Then they have a disastrous game. then they have So, it’s real easy if you’ve lost eight in a row and are losing every game by four and five goals to just throw your hands up and go, I’m just doing this. It’s more difficult when there’s pockets of it here and there week after week, but not nearly enough and not the majority of the week to just give up on it. >> This is a system that But to your point, Cam, and I don’t want to spoil the podcast, but I will. >> Go for it. Yeah. >> We kicked around on the podcast. What would you do at this point? And I said, so if you listen on the podcast, we’ll expand on this more than we will here, but I said, I know it’s old school. I wouldn’t do it every single year. I’m not John Tordella, but I would whether they flew last night. So if they flew last night and got in, I’d book a sheet of ice at 10:00 a.m. If they fly today and land at 3, I’d book a sheet ice at 4:30. I’d get them all on the ice and I’d bag skate them for 90 minutes. And once the baggate was over, I’d walk into the room and I would say, “Wake the f up. See you tomorrow.” And I’d walk out because how many times do you want to hear, “We got to get off to better starts.” How many times do you want to hear? >> This is my point. That’s that’s why I’m saying it’s all so tiresome because we had a good third period. We just got to start that way. >> It’s the same thing over and over and over again. >> So, I think Scott O’Neal is a great coach. I I think Well, I know he is. So do I. >> I think he’s loved in that room and I don’t think he’s too much love that oh they don’t listen or or it’s a player’s coach the point of that. But I do think it would resonate a bit if a guy that is wellliked as Scott and as good as successful as he had last year and and everything he’s tried this year and everything. Remember the Utah game last year? >> Horrible. That’s on me. Unprofessional things like that. Didn’t direct quote say unprofessional blah blah blah. Last night he said about the starts. You just ran that clip. Whenever that plane landed, if it was at 3:00 a.m., I’d book a sheet of ice at 9 or 10. Or if it lands today at 3, I’d book it at 4:30. And I I look, don’t tell me if I bag skate them, they’re going to be tired tomorrow. What’s What’s the difference? They don’t show up. >> Yeah. >> And I think they care. I think they try. But there’s a subconscious thing here where they’re overthinking or doing something, whatever. But after last night, that’s what I would do. I would bag skate him for 90 minutes. I’d walk in the room and go wake the f up and I’ll see you tomorrow pregame skates at >> So what else what else is there to say beyond what’s already entirely obvious? >> Um last night they gave up too much gave up way too much. Hallelab was great again and they didn’t and they didn’t generate enough nearly enough to win that game. Um, Cole Perfetti analytically was the best offensive forward for the Winnipeg Jets last night, but how much more patience can we have for him to start producing something? So last last night, the top line did not have a good game. That’s why Alexow came in. That’s why they he got moved up to play with Kyle Connor and Mark Shley because they were just giving up way too much. Okay, Top Line did not have a great game last night in the numbers. They’re out there trying to get a goal and they’re cheating. But last night in so many ways was 100% showcasing the weakness of this team. When you have a bad game from your top line, they have no answers. They have no answers. And when Logan Stanley is single-handedly the guy getting your team up and at him over the course of the game, I mean there there’s some issues here. Um they’re five points out of a playoff spot. They got one game in hand on San Jose, three games in hand on Utah. Um but Jim, they’re also three points out of last place in the entire National Hockey League right now. They’re three points out of last place. 613-2 over their last 21. the worst record in the NHL and they’re playing like it. Um, special teams is uh is a minus 8 differential. Their goals for and against over this 21 games is a minus7 differential. The power play is at 16.1%. The penalty kill is at 72.6. There there’s not a trade. There’s not a call up. There’s nothing new they can try that’s going to fix this. They have to fix themselves. If you went and traded for Alex Tuck right now and he came in, if you went and traded for >> Nasam Cadry, let’s just say or Kefir, one player coming into this isn’t going to walk into that room and go follow me. >> That’s it’s not going to happen. >> Calling up Brad Lambert and putting him on the second line, he’s not going to have five points in the next six games cuz he doesn’t have that in the American hockey. So, I don’t think that the answer necessarily is somebody from within the organization right now that’s going to come in and fix this situation. So, what is it? Is it just ride this out and figure it out? Because we’re at that point where this is getting this this it it started on on November 4th with that loss against the Kings. This is lasting way too long, Jim. This isn’t just a bad stretch. This is this is a quarter of the season. You could lose that game, Cam, if you had 37 shots, got shut out one- nothing, and there was a ton of guys coming over the bench that looked like I’m going to chew through a fence to get a win here tonight. >> That’s not what happened. >> I just saw people go, I I got trouble opening the gate. I’m not going to bust through this fence or chew through it and get that puck and and make something happen. I just saw a bunch of guys going, I’m trying to open the gate and I can’t get it open. It’s weird. I And I’m not I’m being facicious. >> Where’s the killer instinct, too? It goes back to the Ottawa game in overtime when Cole Petty has a puck in the offensive end. Tim Stutzel hits him from behind, takes the puck off and they go down the other end. >> I’m not a player. I’ll never even come close to the NHL. But if I’m in overtime in the NHL and I got the puck in the offensive end on three on three, I am losing a limb to keep that. >> So So Jim, you know what’s happening too is it’s and you said this earlier in the year, it it’s being totally turned against them on the forche. >> That that’s how that’s how other teams are generating offense. done to them what they do to other teams exceptionally well. >> They’re going down in deep. They’re beating them to pucks or they’re winning the puck. I mean, that’s what happened with Dylan Dlo yesterday. I mean, it was the only one goal. >> Um, but it ended up being the difference and they go in a terrible play. You have the puck along the boards in your own hand and you you get touched a bit and you stumble >> and there was other there was other bad uh, you know, from guys on the blue line. There was other bad turnovers. It’s just like St. Lewis goes in and they to Jim, this was the other thing that was so frustrating about last night. >> St. Louis stacked the middle of the ice and the Jets had nothing to do. They they had nothing to do. >> Um >> it was it was like okay, we’re just going to take the middle of the ice away from the Winnipeg Jets. Bam. And they did. They’re so they’re so easy to play against right now. >> Easy is that’s a great >> easy to play against. >> That’s a great line. Easy because >> no one’s worried about the Winnipeg Jets coming into town anymore. It’s it’s not it’s not there’s no fear. >> You know, I like Dylan Dlo. I think he’s a great guy and I think he’s a great player and he’s had a terrible season. He’s probably had his worst season I’ve ever seen him play >> since he’s been with Winnipeg. Definitely. >> But you get the puck along your own boards. It wasn’t that he mishandled it. It wasn’t that he stumbled. It wasn’t that he got hit. It was that he took too long to move it. >> Move the puck. You’re in your own end. Grab it. Move it. Don’t grab it. Play it, then get hit by somebody, not get it back. There’s that there’s this lack of, and I don’t mean because of the situation they’re in, Cam. There’s this lack of just normal urgency whether it’s game 81 or game 81 or game one or game 81. This lack of urgency to just do things well and quickly and fast and make things happen. And somebody yesterday on the text line told me that well Washington didn’t play that well that game. No, they did play well. It’s just the Jets did what the Jets do well to them. And so it looked like Washington still played well in that game. They weren’t disastrous. They didn’t look like the Jets did last night against against the Jets Washington. They still look good. They didn’t look as good cuz the Jets were imposing their will on them. >> And now St. Louis was all over them all night. Not all night, but there were pockets of and and how do you not start? That’s the quote about >> Well, that’s what Chris get paid to >> Chris from St. Tell the show and says, “First period was brutal in a must-win game. They didn’t show up. If not for 37, Connor Halabach and a lot of iron. And this game was over after 20. Chris, you’re absolutely right. >> If if Connor Halabuk wasn’t sensational, it would have been 3 nothing. And then you got to look at pulling him >> and getting him ready for Colorado. >> Like Conor Hellbuck was his own worst. Colorado Hlebuck was his own worst enemy last night >> cuz he played so well it kept him in the game. >> And I don’t normally think this way. I But it just I feel for you Jets fans. It was totally disheartening last night. And again, and like I said, if you get 37 shots and are pounding the body and in on the forche and hole for steals one, everything else, I’m changing my tune. I’m like, that’s how they need to play. And unfortunately, the hole they’ve dug, they got to get a point and they didn’t. And blah blah blah. But last night, I’m like, does anybody want to win a game or does anybody want to win the game as bad as St. Louis look like they wanted to win the game? >> Oh, they wanted to win that game more much more than the Jets did. So again, >> you have to I mean these starts I just >> I’m not Johnella. >> I don’t know what to say. >> You know, I am a traditionalist and old school and I believe in fighting and all that, >> but I would I would the plane lands, get on the ice, don’t bring your sticks, skate, then go in the room and go wake up and I’ll see you tomorrow at the morning skating. >> Jim, why I have so much time for what you’re saying right now is because nothing else has worked. >> How much more video do you have to go over? How how many more line how many more line changes do you have to make? >> Yeah, >> you’re getting the same exact result. I mean, how many times you think the coaching staff has has tried to explain something in a different way and it’s still coming back exactly the same way? I mean, it’s it’s you’re you’re at the point where it’s like, yeah, I mean, that that might have to be necessary. >> And I’ll change I’ll tell you one other thing I’ve changed my tune on. 99% of the time Logan Stanley takes that penalty with 40ome seconds to go and I’m upset. I’m not. I was like, “Good.” The best player on the ice for both teams last night was Connor Halabuk. The second best jet player on the ice last night was Logan Stanley. >> Come at me, bro. 7806868. >> No, but you’re absolutely right. >> And for him to go in and do that, now I do have a problem with the fact that Neighbors came in and did the same thing to Stanley that he did to the Blues player and he punched Stanley while he was being held. How that isn’t evened up, I don’t know. And I’m not defending Stanley. I’m just saying Neighbors came in and sucker punched him and did the exact same thing he did. How they both don’t get two in 10 minutes is beyond me. But look, the reason I don’t mind that penalty, Cam, is what in the first 19 minutes and 15 seconds told you that they were going to score a goal in the last 43 seconds. Kelly Moore is going to be joining us. We’re going to continue this conversation about what the heck is going on with the Winnipeg Jets and and if there’s even I mean Jeff text the show 2047806868 says face it Jets are finished for this year. Um >> well they’re not. That’s the problem and that’s why he just doesn’t throw chaos and put Baron >> they’re not I mean again they have three games in hand on Utah. They one game in hand on San Jose. They they’re five points out of a playoff spot with well over half the season left to go here. So I jokingly said the other day to the two police officers I passed on the concourse getting a coffee go I don’t I don’t know I I go they I go they got to get four or six points now they they have to but I said they could also lose to St. Louis lose to Utah Colorado that’s kind of how the season >> but Jeff I after how they’ve been they’re the worst team of the last since no early November the worst team in the NHL and it’s it’s like the worst team. So Jeeoff, I don’t I don’t blame you for for feeling that way. Uh when we come back again, Kelly Moore right after 12:30 and uh the Pittsburgh Penguins, they’re selling for a pretty high price. And where are the Winnipeg Jets currently >> put a couple of pennies together? I could come up with this level of scratch. >> Let’s Well, we obviously have to scrap the Scad pizza idea with Sarah McCarthy. So let’s reapproach her dad and see if he wants to own the Penguins with us. >> What are the Winnipeg Jets currently valued at? Well, it’s between a range, but it’s a lot of money. We’ll be right back. Call the Boston Pizza Hotline 2047806800. Boston Pizza coming for lunch every weekday to Boston Pizza. Get a delicious main side and ice cold drink for only 15 bucks only at BP. Well, the Pittsburgh Penguins have sold for $1.7 billion reportedly to a family. >> So eventually got his money back. >> Yeah. and maybe a little bit more. >> Oh, so what are the Winnipeg Jets worth? >> Well, I’ll tell you as the show goes on, don’t go anywhere. >> Yeah, that’s a great question. Um, you know, we’ll uh look at everything, but to to a man, we got to you know, step up and uh you know, prepare better and um you know, I think uh you know, our starts haven’t been great. Uh definitely work on that. And um you know, it’s one shift on, one shift off. It kind of seems like here. So, it’s been going on for for uh you know, seems like a long time here, close to a month, and um you know, it’s not the way we want to play, and it’s it’s just keep going on. So, we got to find a way to get out of it. >> Well, I I I don’t I don’t think that the the players, you know, I don’t think they, you know, they have it all in their heads of how many days it’s been, and it’s been since November 4th, so it’s been it’s been longer than a month that the Winnipeg Jets have have been on this um on this rough stretch. Jets at noon brought to you by Wash Method Car Wash 690 Staint An’s Road. The AP take on the text line wins a VIP car washer. My good friends at Wash Method 204 7806868. We’ll announce the winner later in the program as we’re coming at you live from the Boston Pizza studio for Gourmet Pizza and Pasta. Bring the team to Boston Pizza. >> Kyle Connor essentially said the same thing after the Edmonton loss two weeks ago. >> Well, yeah, I know that. That’s why I wanted to ask Kelly Moore his thoughts. Yeah. >> 680 COB Jet studio host. And of course he gave them on the postgame show. But >> whenever you need advice, whenever you need advice, you ask your dad. That’s my dad. >> Help me out here. >> I I always find that after you sleep on it and you have a lot more your mind kind of works >> uh in the morning and all that, I What’s your take on the Winnipeg Jets where they are right now and perhaps some of the comments there from from from Kyle Connor? >> Yeah. What struck us the most was when when Kyle was talking with Mike McIntyre last night uh after the game was the explanation for what went wrong, but no solution for how to make it right. >> Uh I think the players are every bit as perplexed as uh probably the uh the coaching staff uh and the fans and and the people who cover them. Uh I I almost wonder if Scott Arneil and his coaching staff have to go back and say, “Okay, the way you know Jets hockey, what we have to do to be successful, can it work with this group?” Because as you mentioned, Cam, you go back to that November 4th three nothing loss to the LA Kings. The Jets have won just seven games since then. And in that time they’ve lost 13 and then they’ve had two extra time defeats. So you add all that up, that’s seven wins in 27 games, >> minus 17 in the goal differential, the penalty kill, power play, everything is just a mess. >> Um >> well I mean it’s well that’s the like there’s no time to practice right now under where the things are going on >> and and when they have had time to practice many times it’s been an optional. So, you know, they had to really lean hard on the number one line and Josh Moresy and Neil Pian and so they gave those guys the day off as they should have >> uh because they had to play the very next day. So, even when you you are getting days for practice, there’s not uh a scenario very often where you have the entire team out. >> Yeah. M Kelly, I think I think you’re I think you’re you’re bang on there. I think I think that’s where this this needs to go to. Is is this going to work? But that I mean it might be a yes, it might be a no. But if it’s if it’s a no, it’s a how do what do we do? How do we change? Like we there’s no time to practice. The schedule is so condensed because of the Olympics. >> Yeah. But every everybody is in the same boat and there are other teams that are not uh struggling to the same extent that the Winnipeg Jets are other than the Colorado Avalanche. >> Can you bring in a new system? Can you say, “Okay, we’re changing things.” or or do you take a look at what you have and and I maybe this is where Kevin Chevoff is really taking a longer harder look. Do you have to find different people to play the system you want to play? >> But the here’s what’s perplexing and I’m sure the coaches too, but to me it’s there’s five new players on this roster and this is a core that’s been together for so long and the last two seasons this system has worked to a tea. I could see it not working as effectively with five new players. I can’t see it falling off the map like this has. Yeah, that’s what I don’t get. So, I’m not opposed to change or or or doing something different. What I’m opposed to is this has worked extremely well with 80% of the personnel we have. What is going on? >> Yeah. Well, and that is a question that I’m sure the coaching staff asks every day. Uh those of us who cover the team on a regular basis, you’re not hearing now as much of, well, these are fixable problems. Well, you know, I agree with that. >> We just have to, you know, work on this a little bit in practice and we’ll get it figured out. We’re not hearing as much of that now because this has gone on for so long. So, if it was fixable, you know, why hasn’t it been fixed yet? And and what uh must drive Scott O’Neal around the bend is when they go through the video sessions, the players see where they have made a mistake and they understand the mistake that was made, but then it gets committed over and over again. I’ll I’ll single out two different plays uh that have happened in in recent games. On the first Ottawa goal on Monday night, the puck carrier for the opposal for the Senators is coming down the left side boards. There’s a defenseman on him, but for some reason, and yes, a line change has something to do with that, but the the low forward also comes down to help out along the boards, the man is covered. And so as he vacates the middle of the ice, you know, Nick Cousins just slots in there and gets a grade eight chance and scores a goal. Last night, there wasn’t a goal scored because of it, but it was the almost the very same play. The man’s covered along the wall and for whatever reason, in this case, I think it was Jonathan Taves who came over and uh I can’t remember the St. Louis player who was left all alone. I didn’t bring my notebook in with me that Oh, Oscar Sunquist, that’s who it was. Uh, and they didn’t get the puck to him, but if they had, Sunquist could have set up a picnic table and asked her what kind of lemonade you wanted, >> how many lumps of sugar, >> you know. So, so these, you know, and those are just two. I I would I could No, but Kelly, it’s a great point. >> They’re recurring mistakes. >> Yeah. And Kelly, like when I heard Paul or sorry, Scott Arneal say that in the post game of that’s why we’re professional. That’s why you get paid, show up, blah blah blah. sick of the fragility talk, sick of the oh we don’t have any confidence right now. It’s not cutting it anymore. >> Today people are like so what would you do? What would you do? I don’t know what to do. But I said I’m not old school. I’m not John Tordella. I am old school. I’m a bit of a traditionalist but I’m not John Tordell and I don’t think you should do this. >> Yeah, but you have young kids so you’re a modernist now. >> Exactly. So I don’t think you should do this every single season when when you have a six-game losing streak or anything like that. But I wonder if I’m hearing if I’m Scott O’Neal. The minute that plane lands, I’m booking a sheet of ice and I’m skating them and I’d let him skate for an hour and then I would go into the room and say, “Wake up and I’ll see you tomorrow and walk out and just I don’t know like everybody wants a magic bullet.” >> Yeah, there is >> I think at the point with this and I don’t know if that would work, but I don’t know what you have to lose anymore to get them to show up on time and to have better efforts other than to go have yourself a skate. We haven’t done this in probably two or three seasons. and then I’m not saying a word until we’re done and then I’ll say wake up and I’ll see you at the pregame tomorrow at 10:30. >> Yeah, there there seems to have been the notion and I get it. Uh that what would that accomplish? But uh I guess the other part of it, the proof is in the pudding that this team is not capable of stringing together more than one consistent performance at a time. Uh, and then you have your two or three uh games where >> I’m not saying that they uh played uh horribly against the Ottawa Senators, but >> it was such a depreciation of the the level of performance of the Washington game and then last night went down >> from the Ottawa game. I mean, people might say, well, you know, it was a one- nothing game. They were competitive. No, >> Conor Connor Hobbuk made that a one- nothing game. Connor Heluk. I mean, last night we do a segment on the postgame show for the hardest working jet and straight across the board between Christian, John Shannon, and myself, it was Connor Hella Buck all the way. There was no consideration for anybody else. >> So, and and that’s what I mean like I I wonder if the point is just at this point like why keep hammering home the same message cuz that’s going to even >> Well, we don’t know though, you know, what what what the message is. >> No, we don’t. every every day. >> But I would think like the two plays you just pointed out, I would think there’s been an enormous amount of video and meetings and coaching. >> But that’s what I mean, Jim. And they’ll show those videos and and the players will go, “Yeah, yeah, yeah.” You know, and and then the very next game the same mistake happens. >> That’s why at this point, I’ll never be closer coach at this point. I would just do what I said and then come to Colorado and I would say just show me what you have. >> Kelly Kelly, are they shell shocked? is is are they are they so bewildered by the position that they have put themselves in right now that it’s affecting the decision-m and and the like we’re you mentioned things that are fixable >> that stuff to me with this team that we’ve seen over the last number of years is something that they have not done it is fixable they are capable of doing it but why aren’t they is are they shell shocked are they just totally shocked at what’s happened over the course of these last 21 games >> I chalk that up Cam to players now trying to do too much >> individual stuff. >> Yeah. And players starting to maybe lose a little trust in teammates. I mean, they say, “No, that’s not the case.” But if that was the if that was the case, then you’d say, “Okay, fine. The defenseman has him. I’ll make sure I have my man in my territory, >> you know, and and you wouldn’t or I I’m next time the teams uh I’ll try to make uh write down a reminder for myself, but I’m going to ask like is that the defensive system that you want to play where you outman the opposition along the boards, but you’re also giving up the middle of the ice. I don’t think that the answer to that is going to be yes. I’m not trying to be cheeky. No, no, no. I know what you’re saying. I know, but that’s what’s happening. >> I don’t I I don’t, you know, profess to know all the ins and outs of what the Jets defensive scheme is. I’m not I’m not the smartest guy in the room. I know there are, you know, uh uh people that uh certainly look at things a little bit differently. Uh but I I I will always defer to the coaches who are putting in the hours and hours and watching reams and reams of video. Uh but uh there are some obvious things that lead you to want to ask those questions. To me, Kelly, it’s it’s there’s just moments that are coming that are biting them back. Totally biting them where it comes to a player just moving his head. Yeah. >> It’s like just just move your head and see. Open up your open up your eyes. Exact. Communicate or open up your eyes and understand what’s going on on the ice beyond this tunnel vision on who’s holding on to the puck at that moment. >> Our vantage point though makes the game seem a lot more simple than it does. uh if you are done at ice level I mean it’s moving quick and they literally have a nancond to make a decision you know another uh uh key play last night and again it didn’t uh result in the goal because of Connor Hllabuk but uh after uh the play where they’d vacated the middle of the ice then Robert Thomas is coming down the middle and there’s two Dmen there and yet they both decide to try to take a winger Yeah. >> And the red seas part for Robert Thomas to walk right down Main Street like wouldn’t there be Okay, got him. >> And and so the the other defenseman knows uh and I I think it I think it was Josh Morrisy and Dylan Dlo who were out there at that time. So, you know, Josh picks up Robert Thomas and Dylan Dlo takes the offside winger. And if it’s a threeon two, well, then you you know, let the goalender handle the third guy. >> Same thing against Ottawa though in the Cousins goal, right? Two defenseman going over, two turnovers, one in the offensive end, one at the offensive blue line, then it comes back the other end. Two Dman go. Mark Schiff is coming back, but he doesn’t take a look to the right. >> Yeah. >> And it just it’s it’s things like that. >> Yeah. So, that’s where Cam has a has a good point. And and sometimes you just get, you know, you are guilty of puck watching and that really seems to be an issue for the Winnipeg Jets this But but I think you’re on to something there, Kelly, with the it’s this individual effort and there’s just like there’s not trust amongst >> and I don’t know if they shouldn’t be confused and yet they play that way. >> Well, it’s like again, we’re hearing the same things over and over again, but but you’re but you’re right. It’s it’s sort of the proof is in the pudding with I mean, yeah, you do trust you say you trust each other and all that, but you’re you’re certainly you’re certainly not playing like a team in so many moments. Well, I I do agree with both of you to the point where I think the last two weeks it’s been, you know, they know the hole they’ve dug. Now they’re trying to do too much. Now they’re getting out of their lanes. Now they’re overthinking. Now they’re puck watching more than they would normally. It’s not as extinctive. It’s >> Yeah, I I think they’ve been better actually uh over the last couple of weeks in terms of playing closer to how they want to play. But there are these moments that crop up in a game. And you know, Scott O’Neal, I think it was after the Boston game where he said, “There are stressful moments >> in over the course of an NHL game.” And right now, we’re not handling those moments very well. >> Not having the stress well in game. >> Exactly. And I I really do think that’s the situation. Just I know we’re just about out of time, but this can’t go on forever. Uh you know, even Dylan Samberg last night said, you know, we’re you know, we have 49 games left. Now they’re starting to look and see, you know, they’re getting close to the halfway point of the season. And once you get past that other half, then the pressure really ramps up. >> Well, the positive thing is Kelly is they got a really easy one tomorrow night to get back on track. >> Yeah, that’s guaranteed two points. >> Well, yeah. I mean, it’s not. >> I’m Cameron Press and I am tomorrow in Colorado. >> That’s bold, Cam. Listen, I like to be bold here on the show. Anyways, Kelly Moore, thank you so much. >> You bet. I wish I had more answers, foules. I really do. >> Wow. You’re just like us. I think you’re the same as everybody listening to as well and and and I think it might even go within the Winnipeg Jets brass. I I I think it extends even that far. Kelly Morris 680 CGOB Jets studio host. Um miss your chance. Get your thoughts on the show today. Call the Boston Pizza Jets at noon hotline. Open 24/7. It’s open right now. 2047806800 Boston Pizza. Come in for lunch every weekday to Boston Pizza. Get a delicious main side and ice cold drink for only 15 bucks only at BP. the Penguins have sold or it’s they’re set to be sold. At least this is what the reporting is at at $1.7 billion. Where are some organizations valuing the Winnipeg Jets at currently? We’ll discuss that when we come back. >> Gone chaotic. It was a blizzard today. I actually had to I had to answer phones in the morning. I’m the sports desk. I’m not the news desk. >> You turned around from the sports desk to the news desk and helped. >> I was helping out. >> You’re a hero. Listen, there’s a lot of people that wouldn’t have turned around and when phone started ringing just taken a photo of it and put it on Instagram. But you actually didn’t take your phone out. You just you helped. >> The the sports desk should ne doesn’t matter what’s happening. I don’t care what is going on. Should never have to help in the news department. >> You know why? Cuz sports never sleeps. You just keep playing. >> Is the news stepping over and helping out sports in those moments? >> Blizzard or not, there’s games tonight. >> Yeah. >> There’s games when there aren’t a Blizzard. games. There’s a big moment. Oh, there’s a big trade or something going on. >> You stepped up. >> Is news stepping in to help out? No, >> you could have stood down, but you stood up. >> Stood up >> and made a difference. >> I didn’t have to. >> Good guy. >> Mike is our VIP texture. Mike says, “I’m on team ride it out. If they lose enough, they can get a decent draft pick. Hopefully, a player that can excite the fans and contribute in a meaningful way.” It also appears that Stanley may have been the most value as a trade may have the most value as a trade asset. So, Chevy needs to start thinking about moving him to start restocking the >> covers. If you brought in three pieces >> for Stanley, >> um, by the way, I wore a toque today. I don’t know if you noticed. >> Usually you stare at my hair, but my eyes are down here. >> Oh. >> Um, I had to shovel snow this morning. >> Wow. >> Now, I’m accustomed to doing it later when I get home. >> Yeah. >> But in the morning. >> Well, you know what, Jim? I had to answer the phone to help out the news desk. >> The door wouldn’t open. >> Wow. >> I literally texted Loren and I said, “Did you have to go through the garage? >> I can’t work. the door. >> My back is is having extreme pain. >> I saw it though. It’s just real real quick. I can’t come in. >> The Winnipeg Jets are currently valued at somewhere between 1.33 and $1.46 billion USD. Forbes them at almost $1.5 billion USD. >> That is and they remain one of the less valuable NHL franchises. I think second last. >> You know what? >> But the increase has been sell. I’m convinced of that. >> No. But if and name me any other business where you have that much of a return and you don’t sell >> it’s because well if you >> down 70 million orund whatever and instead of billion >> if you still think it’s going to climb >> well that’s why >> it could fall and they’re still not going to sell >> it was just sold for 1.7. I’m just saying if you’re a business guy, like if you had a 2006 Buick rendevous >> that you bought off your father >> and had to drop down >> and it only has 170 clicks on it and all of a sudden it was valued at $30,000, >> but I’m like Chipman. I’m not selling it. >> Thank you very much, Jeffrey Ford. I’ll take calls at 35 for me back same time tomorrow. See you.

Where do the Winnipeg Jets go from here?
After watching the Jets get shut out 1-0 in St. Louis on Wednesday night, it was hard to avoid the sinking feeling that this may simply be who this team is right now. The answers to fixing the mess they’ve created don’t just feel elusive — they feel nonexistent, or at least beyond the reach of this current group.
The video isn’t working. The line combinations aren’t working. The defensive structure isn’t working. So what’s the solution? A bag skate? A shake-up? Something — anything — to wake this team up.
Because the task doesn’t get any easier. Winnipeg heads to Denver on Friday to face the Colorado Avalanche, the top team in the NHL, in what shapes up as another massive test during a stretch that continues to spiral.
Cam and Jim are joined in studio by CJOB Jets Studio Host Kelly Moore as they try to piece together what, if anything, can realistically be done to stop the slide and salvage the season.
Plus, the guys discuss the estimated value of the Winnipeg Jets as franchise valuations come into focus following reports that the Pittsburgh Penguins have been sold for a staggering $1.7 billion USD.
All that and more on today’s edition of Jets @ Noon.

20 comments
  1. What an absolute PATHETIC performance. Losing to a team that is filled with key injured players is unacceptable.. It's obvious the team has quit on the coaches which is why you need a wholesale change on the coaches. Morrissey needs to grab a set of balls. Too many soft players…Barron is not a second line player, fourth line at best!!!

  2. Fetts is obviously still injured. I can skate faster at 48 than him, my guess if they thought they had a replacement for him they would sit him. Time to lay off the kid, he is fragile to begin with

  3. They get frustrated easy and often. "people in their conduct of affairs are constantly ruining them when they are on the eve of success. If they were careful at the end, as (they should be) at the beginning, they would not so ruin them."
    The issue is that when you get to a tipping point you can be tempted to grasp at it, if you grasp at it, it will escape you and then you can spiral out. The key is to never do things for another reason, that you have to grasp at, so that your momentum is not affected at how close you are to getting somewhere, because you are always where you want to be.

  4. 91 has been over rated since day 1, he’s not an NHL player….the experiment isn’t working…and don’t look at last season points…he was an opportunist with decent players around him. we keep hearing about his high “ skill”????? Really..,exactly what skills are we talking about? …sometimes the transition from Junior to Pro just doesn’t work…objectively, compare shift to shift what he does compared to say someone like Barron….look at speed…look at tenacity and compete level, look at board battles, and look at speed and fore checking/back 7:32 checking….how is 91 still considered “ 2nd line?” He just can’t compete at this level…give his PP minutes to someone else….his big coasting turns to go other way, his horrific skating / speed can’t keep up …sure he’s frustrated, but it’s because the game is separating itself from him….he is very easy to play against. I would move Barron to second line and say go to it…91 needs to healthy scratch …get some grit and compete, Moose guys? At least they’ll compete in the corners , rather than be a player who other teams know they can steam roll.

    Also, how many years are we going to watch 55 coast back and not pick up guys….amazing how in replay after reply , we see 55 2 steps behind the guy who scores on them, standing straight legged reaching with one hand on stick and his soother half out of his mouth…replay guys on tv catch this time and time again , game after game, year after year….easier to deal with ( turn a blind eye) when he’s scoring, but he’s so poor defensively, in our end in the slot , Helly must be very patient seeing this time after time.

    And did we hearBotterill from SN panel after game…spot on with her critique…no energy, no sense of urgency, no compete…it’s so obvious….

    Helly, Stan, and Barron were only players who I saw with any “G a S “ factor last night….

  5. Penalites are what teams are waitng for they can play great for 50:00 a game,but as soon as Toronto sees Winnipeg play well the refs get thatcall form Gary in Toronto and the next thing if you cough its unsportsmanlike conduct and its 1-0 and then its over thses penalties and refs have the not been able to see the ice or is watching the game form the stands or tries to make the game a no hitting league teams are plannig their whole attack by this and its constant

  6. The Jets lost their speed with the departure of Kupari, Appleton and especially Ehlers. Ehlers in particular was worth much more than the 60 points he put on the board, which was obviously important, but he allowed his line to gain the zone and push defenders back. Appleton was usually first in on forecheck and Kupari was very effects in lugging the puck. We replaced that speed with 19 and 14 and it hasn’t worked. I agree with the panel, this team has to figure it out. Baron needs to move to 2C and Villardi needs to drop to the second line. My 2 cents…

  7. If Arniel was the problem, the Jets would have stunk last season. The problem is that their best player, Ehlers, left the team. He obviously carried the 2nd line and the powerplay. The second line is invisible now.

  8. It reminds me of the last quarter of the season a couple of years ago. The team collapsed in the final twenty games. Maybe the Jets are mentally fragile.

  9. The problem is they don’t have the answers on this team. They are bad! They simply don’t have the players to play Arnies system. Way past their prime and so slow. Total failure to add to this team in the off season. And yet a staunch adherence to the so called plan. Put some of these horrendous signings on waivers!

  10. The new additions don’t fit. Own it and put them in the minors as they are worthless. Send a message. Toews, Nyquist, Schenn, Pearson. See ya. NHL is a privilege not a right.

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