Are the Mariners Working On a BIG TRADE?

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1. In a heartbeat.

2. Nope their gonna sell us on the future like they do every year 😂

3. Alternate take: Boston is looking to stock up on SP prospects… because they're about to outbid the Mariners on yet another 2B target by shipping Early/Tolle (seriously why else would they need more near-future starters they're loaded as-is).

4. its 1 player heavy. if seattle got back a prospect in the top 20 in cards farm id do it. pending the type of guy they got back.

5. I’m more or less Oka with the trade. Wonder what the overpay would be for just Donovan…?

6. You are leaving out the two pitchers the Cards got from Boston that are mlb pitchers, Dobbins and Fitts

7. I don't think there is much upside to the players being sent back to the Cardinals, so i think I'm okay with that trade.

8. Slight correction: Canzone has four years of control remaining.

   On the trade itself… eh could be worse (note that I'm low on Cijntje & Arroyo, if I were even neutral on them I'd think the idea is awful) but I wouldn't expect Canzone & Evans to mean that much to STL and they likely decline. Chaim Bloom knows full well that he was brought in to be a tank commander. He isn't going to value near-future pieces unless he thinks they're worth an early extension or thinks he can flip them for a higher return in a few years. Canzone is 28 and can't field, and Evans would likely go below Dobbins & Fitts on their depth chart (and we already tried Evans as a reliever in AA and it was a terrible fit), so it would be challenging to develop either into having more value in a later flip (and if they're pieces we wouldn't build around, why would they be for Bloom?) He'd look at that trade offer and think you'd be willing to swap out Evans & Canzone for McGraw & Peete… and would you be okay with that? Even to me that sounds like a goofy amount of prospect capital for a rental lefty RP and two years of Donovan.

   Another way to think about it: If Cijntje, Arroyo, & Cleveland isn't enough for Donovan, would you pay more for him instead of just running with Cole Young at 2B and having B-Willy/C-Emerson/a remaining FA compete for 3B? Does that mean you think renting Romero is worth Canzone and Evans?

9. Tiny bit of an overpay

10. It's a lot. But yes. Small window to compete for the prize.

11. I don’t hate this.

12. Logan Evans and Hancock should both be trade candidates

13. if I want to pretend it generally includes a red head and a blonde

14. for that package you should just try to get ketal w thay

15. Swap Arroyo for Becker and I’d be down. Otherwise it’s a huge overpay. It’s gives them 2 controllable starting pitchers, a controllable semi-proven big leaguer, and a long term prospect. With Becker it’s still an overpay, but more of a long term play for the Cards.
    Arroyo is close and we may need that bat in 2027.
    This team is going to look waaaay different in 2027.

16. Hopefully

17. Swap arroyo with Cole Young and it’s good to go

18. this is not a smart trade for Seattle. 3 pitchers for Romero who finally had 1 good season? no. Donovan who is good but never hit over 15 homeruns in a year, for Arroyo who is only 21 year old and we dont know how good he can be? no. and to throw in Canzone for the hell of it, no.

    Maybe a Logan Evans for Donovan straight up leave it at that, not sure SEA should even do this figure out from all teams what they can get for Logan Evans straight up first. Seattle would be giving up too much young upside talent for not too much.

    Mariners can trade 10,000 players before any of these guys are even a thought as well. Luis Castillo to use 20 mill somewhere else, George Kirby who is going to leave soon anyway, Randy Arozarena to save 15 mill and cant get hits in the playoffs, JP Crawford to save another 12 mill, time to give the starting job to Emerson. Robles save another 5 mill, Bazardo who gave up 3 run home run in the last game, Speier who had a 6 + ERA in the playoffs, Luke Raley who hit .202 4 homeruns 2025, Emerson Hancock who SEA doesnt know how to use. Plus another 11 players who havent helped Seattle much, Carlos Vargas, Jackson Kowar, Leo Rivas, Samad Taylor, Ryan Bliss, Miles Mastrobuoni, Blas Castan, Chris Wilcox, Troy Taylor, Ryan Loutos, Casey Legumina. Here is 20 players who SEA can trade, as well as picks and prospects to get aynthing. Sick and tired of being a lifelong Seattle Mariners fan and have them talk about "oh we dont want to trade any MLB talent only prospects". This is horrible GM ideals and practice, maybe this is why Seattle has never been to the world series let alone win the entire thing. SEA not trading MLB talent and not giving a chance to the young prospects FAST ENOUGH is the definition of stone age thinking and the reason why the Owner doesn't make more money to actually have the ability to spend more money to have a more competitive team. Nothing but a bunch of EXCUSES. Mariners can trade all these guys and literally gain around 75 million. Seattle is finally good and has the foundation laid out with young pitching, and they want to hold onto veterans who Seattle didn't play in the playoffs. Oh lets just keep these guys for 1 more year, not giving the young prospects a better chance to grow by actually letting them go up to the MLB and fail and get better from experience. Yes not all these guys can be traded if other teams dont want them, REALITY IS, THIS IS 75 MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR THE MARINERS COULD HAVE USED AND ALSO HAVE ANOTHER 15 MILL THEY CAN SPEND FOR THE RIGHT PIECE, 90 MILLION TALKING ABOUT THIS TEAM CANT AFFORD IT. Cant afford it because they take too damn long to let the young guys get a chance with higher possible upside to see what they actually have. Instead they want to keep players on the 40 man Seattle doesn't play them or they lose a game. Coming up with every excuse in the book to save money, hold on to veterans who dont help in the playoffs, dont give chances to the young prospects, who then in turn allows you to save more money if one of them hit, THEN going out and getting the missing piece and actually paying a top dog big money. Stop with the EXCUSES, learn from NFL and NBA. MLB takes too damn long for young prospects, well at least the Mariners do. Mariners need to start trading ALL BENCH PLAYERS, sorry to say, next man up give a young prospect the MLB the minimum contract get them on the damn field. just keep doing this because what were doing has never worked in MLB history. Before we know it another 10 years going to go by, all our starting pitching with be retired or on last legs somewhere else and Seattle will be in a rebuild saying, "oh we dont want to trade our MLB talent" well guess what buddy, your 10 years late to the MLB World Series Championship party AGAIN. because you refused to go get those final 3-4 x factor trades because you didn't want to trade MLB roster players who didn't help in the playoffs and lost you a trip the your first ever world series. Seattle needs another good lefty reliever, they need AT LEAST ONE left handed top 3 team rotation starting pitcher, all top 5 guys are right handed, they need a left outfielder. 1 lefty reliever, 2 starting lefty pitchers, left-outfielder here is 4 trades go do it Seattle Mariners GM. oh and by the way its time to give Cole Young, Michael Arroyo, Colt Emerson, Rhylan Thomas, Lazaro Montes, Teddy McGraw, Tyler Cleveland THESE 7 PLAYERS need to play a lot in the MLB, THIS YEAR. stop using excuses and actually give the young prospects true time in the league. Then at trade deadline see where they're at. Until the Mariners learn how to keep swaping young prospect talent in the MLB at a faster rate, just giving a chance whether good or bad, who cost less money on the payroll, then allowing SEA to actually have money for the #1 player in FA or trade, this team will never win a world series.

19. @ Mariners Mojo …,

    That's way to much to pay for those 2 players back, for Marte or Hoerner pls a swing & miss, meaningfully different arm slot & pitch mix at least usually around 96.5-100 mph velocity, lower walk rate & low HR rate per 9 Innings, solid to excellent quality analytics overall and for especially his bat avg against with RISP, balls hit in play bat avg, on base %, slug %, hard hit rate %, avg exit velocity mph, higher ground ball hit rate % and/vs? lower fly ball rate %, better to excellent quality spin rate, stuff and command & control plus a at worst around avg injury risk/durability, preferably has pretty decent to excellent amount of playoffs & elimination games & higher leverage experiencehe performed solidly to excellent in consistently.

    Definitely has that killer/assassin/closer type mentality, personality, perseverance/grit & dominance to his make up & multipleyears under more reasonablecontract/team control…..

    Then I probably more likely would do your propsed trade assets from Mariners… don't know about including at least 1 maybe more of your auxiliary Mariners prospects like Arroyo in trade though.

    Much rather cumulatively get better overall & add a quality bat/player or 2 that probably won't cost as much for each of them.

    I'd say go trade for DH/Depth 1B switch hitter Yandy Diaz, go get whomever fits batting, contact with modest to solid+ slug %, best ball park fit, at least avg to excellent D profile and base running & stealing abilities OF, maybe UT OF/COF/RF Steven Kwan, Keppler, Yazstrimski, Harrison Bader, Adolis Garcia, etcetera, go get Willie Castro as primary bench UT guy & veteran guy for 2B/3B if ultimately don't get any other quality vets at position as insurance & maybe backup depth to cycle with 3B Brock Boden, Emerson & Young, depending on trade costs & values if any are even available before spring ball or trade deadline, Marte, Hoerner, Donavan, Volpe, potentially even J Rod becomesavailableif his team isn'tperformingwell& hasn'tdoneenoughwith he said this off seasonaboutsigningan extensionif they haven't done so (it may also depend on which top SP guys we still have in franchise if trade cost absolutely must include a quality MLB SP from Rotation, how top SP prospects have performed, how ready they are to regularly work way into & start in #2-#3 of SP rotation in 2026, 2027 or if it's still later than that for our top few SP prospects…..

    Maybe either way, more so if nothing else depending on trade costs, durability/injury medicals, etcetera, the analytics, ball park & clubhouse fits, potentially have to/should maybe take some lottery ticket or if possible at reasonable enough addition costs, a quality veteran player's or even pretty decent or better bench/UT player additions from say Royals, Athletics, Angels, SF Giants, NYY, Tigers, Oriels, Diamond Backs, Rays, Twins, Braves, Brewers, Guardians, Phillies, Nationals, Cubs, White Sox, Red Sox, maybe NYY Mets, etcetera.

    Of we need to trade from our top 2-3 MLB SP rotation to aquire a stud position player bat & quality enough D profile type player, if possible maybe try to do a conditional trade for that but we have to have a trade addition for another top 3 MLB SP in our rotation quality player, likemaybe flame throwing SP Green???

    Also do whatever we can within reasonable enough reason to try to get our prior pitching coach from 2024 & earlier back from the Texas College assistant Manager position he left Mariners for, if can't get him back, must find a different guy of very similar or better abilities that's a bit more proven at minimum to replace the not remotely good enough pitching coach from 2025 season, both in regular season & especially post season our entire pitching staff wasn't nearly as good as in 2024 & earlier, absolutely can't have that with how much we depend on pitching not just being fairly solid but pretty good/dominant, must be able to get them pretty dialed in or better in playoffs, 2025 guy didn't have our starters ready & dialed in Whatsoever at all, addressing that aspect much better would go a long ways in every regard of improving everything we did in 2025 regular & post seasons.

    Maybe potentially see if can get another all time great, non juicing or non heavily suspected of juicing with steroids who was a great hitter for a reasonably to very good good amount of time MLB hitter/player to be a assistant or at least consultant in hitting for contact & bat avg/on base % and or in our minors as those, or some sort of hitting abilities, etcetera MLB and or Prospects/Minors scout, a LH & RH and ideally a switch hitting guy, if they're still around, willing & able to do any of this, like say an Ichiro,
    Brett Saberhagen, Fred McGriff, Cal Ripken, etcetera types to potentially pair part time with Edgar as current MLB and or minors hitting coach and or scouts are willing to work/consult with them, probably would as greats of the game I suspect.

20. Throw in Robles not canzone. I wouldn't be sad to see him go

21. Too bad JoJo Romero can’t hit because Seattle needs 2 bats

22. Let’s be clear, the Mariners system does not have enough to land Nico Hoerner. That will not happen, sorry but let’s be realistic!

23. No way, if you're going to give that up you might as well go get Marte.

24. Usually love your guy's trade packages but I think even "overpay" is stretching it, this would be straight highway robbery. Evans/Canzone/Cleveland by themselves would be a borderline slight overpay for Donovan alone, and Romero isn't worth a top 100 prospect.

25. Do we also send $50 mil to the Redbirds too! This trade idea is definitely horse💩

26. I would do it. I would hate to trade Arroyo. But the rest of the package I'm fine with. I'd rather keep Raley over Canzone