beyond incompetent front office. Can jeanie like, leave already and give the keys to Mark Walter bc ive had enough
One has an actual competent GM and the other doesn’t. Pretty simple.
Um. Yeah. No young talent developing on the bench. Expensive bench with no production. We are a top heavy team.
it’s more of fans always complain when we are doing bad. not realizing we need time to actually rebuild and go for championships. how many years did boston actually used just rebuilding and training up their players. you can see the same thing on other franchise where they train up and develop their players. while lakers and other win now teams are always trading their pieces to get a “develop” player and when it doesn’t pan out we try to trade up again exhausting our picks and so on. plus we got no patience. and nba also has no patience on certain teams because it’s the franchise the props up the NBA. there are teams that you want to be relevant in order for nba to be relevant. in the end most of the teams that likes to build momentum have a stronger roster than us… and that would always be the case. looking at how bball has been developing now we can’t win with just stars.
Being cheap for years finally caught up to them. I’m so glad the team was sold. We might have to wait a year or two to see impactful internal changes made.
Not resigning caruso was the clear indicator of lakers front office capability
Rob Pelinka is an idiot.
He should have traded for Claxron this offseason by offering the 2032 first, a 2028 pick swap, expring salary and Dalton.
He should have also tried to dump Vando for greater cap flexibility in free agency or in trades, and to retain Goodwin.
I know that no one expected Goodwin to be such an integral piece in the Suns major turnaround this season. However, for a team sorely lacking perimeter defense, keeping Goodwin should have been a major goal.
I’d understand if Rob seriously tried and it was too expensive to do, but I think that Dalton could have been dumped with nothing attached or a second.
What did you guys want them to do this last offseason? Only one 1st round pick available to trade. Got LaRavia, Smart, and Ayton over DFS. Really what did you want them to do? Wait until the trade deadline passes to bitch. This is a playoff team. Building around Luka on the fly while having LeBron’s max on the payroll. Calm the f down.
I get that it was a good deal getting Luka in terms of the value, but it wasn’t exactly “on a platter”.
We gave up AD who was so key to our defense, and also Max who was arguably our best perimeter defender too. People now complaining our defense is poor, but we literally gave away our anchor in AD.
I do agree with people saying the issue is the front office though. Lot of bad moves over time tbh. This roster construction just doesn’t work.
With Rob and the Buss kids we’ve learned to accept mediocrity. We’re the LAKERS. We should have the best FO in the league
They develop and actually draft guys. Queta they trade for and sign on a dirt cheap deal, he can give 25 minutes of great rebounding and score 10 a game. Walsh, Hauser, Garza, Hugo, Pritchard are all drafted by them in the last 5 years. They develop them.
We draft dogshit like JHS or flame outs like Knecht in the first round. They fill out their 6th through 15th entirely through the draft or limited players on peanut deals. For 10 years we’ve filled our roster with vet min 38 year olds or overpaying on “proven talents”. Celtics get incredible surplus value from Pritchard, but we’d sign him for 25m a year, give him a bigger role and wonder why he’s not helping us make WCF every year… Pelinka doesn’t help our role players get support from a well built roster too.
These Boston fans never shut up won’t they?
Having a 41 year old guard players twice as fast would do that to you.
Lakers know this and they know they are not going anywhere with two chairs in the starting lineup.
Lukas 25 so I imagine they’re taking this in as fan service and trying to rebuild for the run when LBJ walks.
Would have been a different story if LBJ took a 20 million deal.
Poor roster construction for the last 6 years, that 2019-2020 was truly lighting in a bottle. Rob somehow keeps getting extended despite showing he’s not well equipped for the job and his ability to evaluate talent isn’t good
It’s because the only player the lakers have been able to develop is reaves. Everyone else either sucks or is from free agency/ a trade
Defense > offense, role players > star players, once the organization realizes this we can win championships again. Starts with this subreddit though.
He’s right. Boston has had big salaries on their books for years and still find a way to build competitive rosters. Lakers fans can use the excuses that they have big contracts but the true is Rob stinks at the little things and they also haven’t developed many players the last 8 years. AR, Caruso, Kuz, and Christie are the only players that actually became something and developed in the Bron era. Everyone else was already a made product when they got to the Lakers.
the core of that team and coaching staff has been around since 2022
we got a shit FO
a rookie coach
Fuck Boston
nah, it’s just the media coverage on lakers tend to hyper focus on drama baiting 🙂
**We’ve been saying this for the longest**. The Lakers no longer have a culture in 2026. **And it begins with Jeanie and Rob, living off the Lakers past 17 titles**.
All the blame, per the NBA media, inevitably falls on the star players. But well-run franchises do not have these issues with stars, or when they rotate out complimentary pieces. 2000’s to 2010’s New England Patriots, San Antonio Spurs, 2020’s Milwaukee Brewers, Denver Nuggets, OKC Thunder, Bost… ugh, The Green Team. **All of them have a readily defined cultures. All of them have STRONG front offices.**
The Lakers have been riding Laker lore + LeBron’s draw power for the past 9 years, and with the exception of the 2020 Championship team… they’ve been more aimless than not. That’s on the front office. And now, with Luka and high expectations, they’re exposed.
**The days of winning a title with 1 or 2 or 3 great players and decent to mediocre support talent are OVER!** If you don’t have superior draft scouts to get 7-9 guys that are young, selfless, switchy, athletic, multi-level, multi-faceted, and versatile… you’re cooked.
***If******* ***Rob doesn’t do his job before the trade deadline, the last 20 games (sub .500) will look like the next 43 games.*** *Which will mirror the 2021 season where the Lakers started 21-6, and finished the final 46 games 22-24 with a 1st round exit.*
No one on Celtics is even 1% the whiner that Luka is. It’s kinda required to not be a little brat if you want the W.
Fix that and you won’t go straight to chip contender but you will have a much better TEAM.
The new owner supposed to make things better. But I guess this season is supposed to be a gap year. For me celtics have been pretty good since drafting both jayson tatum and jaylen brown, after that they really have turned it around with pritchard, white and anferenee simons is a damn good player bro
Simple thought, LA is in the west.
Lakers Must find a new team for rui and gabe immidiately. Because they aint producing anything
Honestly it’s just media bullshit.
Lakers are in the much harder conference with the same record as the celtics.
The Lakers live rent free in this butterball’s head. The Celtics are so great, yet he can’t stop tweeting about the Lakers for clicks and engagement. Loser.
Name me three years in the past 15 where this organization *didn’t* suck, I dare you lmao
Said this to my brother two weeks ago …. Lakers aint winning anything with Luka as their 1… go ahead and mob me and pitchfork me .. i was happy when we first landed him too… but having james harden 2.0 aint gotta cut it.. unless they give him the world team around him lol.
Obvious front office issues. I just hope JJ doesn’t get caught up in this too. I think he will be a great coach with an adequate team around him.
Luka + Lebron = lottery team
It’s a product of win now, LBJ championship window means you don’t have time for people to develop. Also bad drafting
Boston didn’t have LBJ to force them into having another superstar, they developed 2 guys and made savvy moves. No savvy moves happen when your a contender
Well Luka is an outlier
Pelinka needs to go
lol it’s fine lads
This is a gap year just enjoy the Luka step back 3s and LeBron dunks.
The blueprint now is to keep developing young and cheap players, then trade them when they get too expensive. Unfortunately Lakers haven’t been good at both. The last one they have is Max who got traded with AD.
Pelinka is a mediocre GM. He cannot spot talent. He thinks a player like DLo or Rui would help. Or Ayton. No, they will not help. Rob literally likes soft players. He likes losers. That’s not even hyperbole.
We only won in 2020 because LeBron showed up and brought in AD and attracted smart veterans like Rondo.
Pelinka’s best hits recently were not of his doing – Reaves picked the Lakers and Luka was offered to him.
TLDR recent good fortune was from players picking the Lakers or offers from the outside.
They understand how to manage assets and sell high when necessary (see Jrue, Smart, Porzingis), instead of always going “all in” and sacrificing the future for small short term gain.
Boston took years to build that team and develop players. Lakers are too impatient and trade players away trying to have an instant championship team.
No thoughts.
Yeah, no shit.
Bob Pelinka is overall poor at talent acquisition and identification. He has filled out the roster with cast offs and bargain bin caliber players. It’s been going on for 5 years now, and it won’t change until Bob is given a boot to the ass out of the door of the Lakers front office.
Rob Pelinka is abysmal at roster construction and is awful at the draft, it’s really just that. If he’s not being spoonfed star players, he’s giving out bad contracts and throwing away picks on bad trades or to draft busts.
Take the keys away from Klutch sports
Yeah Lakers is more of a superstar team, and Boston is more organic in their approach.
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Yup, FO and coaching staff.
beyond incompetent front office. Can jeanie like, leave already and give the keys to Mark Walter bc ive had enough
One has an actual competent GM and the other doesn’t. Pretty simple.
Um. Yeah. No young talent developing on the bench. Expensive bench with no production. We are a top heavy team.
it’s more of fans always complain when we are doing bad. not realizing we need time to actually rebuild and go for championships. how many years did boston actually used just rebuilding and training up their players. you can see the same thing on other franchise where they train up and develop their players. while lakers and other win now teams are always trading their pieces to get a “develop” player and when it doesn’t pan out we try to trade up again exhausting our picks and so on. plus we got no patience. and nba also has no patience on certain teams because it’s the franchise the props up the NBA. there are teams that you want to be relevant in order for nba to be relevant. in the end most of the teams that likes to build momentum have a stronger roster than us… and that would always be the case. looking at how bball has been developing now we can’t win with just stars.
Being cheap for years finally caught up to them. I’m so glad the team was sold. We might have to wait a year or two to see impactful internal changes made.
Not resigning caruso was the clear indicator of lakers front office capability
Rob Pelinka is an idiot.
He should have traded for Claxron this offseason by offering the 2032 first, a 2028 pick swap, expring salary and Dalton.
He should have also tried to dump Vando for greater cap flexibility in free agency or in trades, and to retain Goodwin.
I know that no one expected Goodwin to be such an integral piece in the Suns major turnaround this season. However, for a team sorely lacking perimeter defense, keeping Goodwin should have been a major goal.
I’d understand if Rob seriously tried and it was too expensive to do, but I think that Dalton could have been dumped with nothing attached or a second.
What did you guys want them to do this last offseason? Only one 1st round pick available to trade. Got LaRavia, Smart, and Ayton over DFS. Really what did you want them to do? Wait until the trade deadline passes to bitch. This is a playoff team. Building around Luka on the fly while having LeBron’s max on the payroll. Calm the f down.
I get that it was a good deal getting Luka in terms of the value, but it wasn’t exactly “on a platter”.
We gave up AD who was so key to our defense, and also Max who was arguably our best perimeter defender too. People now complaining our defense is poor, but we literally gave away our anchor in AD.
I do agree with people saying the issue is the front office though. Lot of bad moves over time tbh. This roster construction just doesn’t work.
With Rob and the Buss kids we’ve learned to accept mediocrity. We’re the LAKERS. We should have the best FO in the league
They develop and actually draft guys. Queta they trade for and sign on a dirt cheap deal, he can give 25 minutes of great rebounding and score 10 a game. Walsh, Hauser, Garza, Hugo, Pritchard are all drafted by them in the last 5 years. They develop them.
We draft dogshit like JHS or flame outs like Knecht in the first round. They fill out their 6th through 15th entirely through the draft or limited players on peanut deals. For 10 years we’ve filled our roster with vet min 38 year olds or overpaying on “proven talents”. Celtics get incredible surplus value from Pritchard, but we’d sign him for 25m a year, give him a bigger role and wonder why he’s not helping us make WCF every year… Pelinka doesn’t help our role players get support from a well built roster too.
These Boston fans never shut up won’t they?
Having a 41 year old guard players twice as fast would do that to you.
Lakers know this and they know they are not going anywhere with two chairs in the starting lineup.
Lukas 25 so I imagine they’re taking this in as fan service and trying to rebuild for the run when LBJ walks.
Would have been a different story if LBJ took a 20 million deal.
Poor roster construction for the last 6 years, that 2019-2020 was truly lighting in a bottle. Rob somehow keeps getting extended despite showing he’s not well equipped for the job and his ability to evaluate talent isn’t good
It’s because the only player the lakers have been able to develop is reaves. Everyone else either sucks or is from free agency/ a trade
Defense > offense, role players > star players, once the organization realizes this we can win championships again. Starts with this subreddit though.
He’s right. Boston has had big salaries on their books for years and still find a way to build competitive rosters. Lakers fans can use the excuses that they have big contracts but the true is Rob stinks at the little things and they also haven’t developed many players the last 8 years. AR, Caruso, Kuz, and Christie are the only players that actually became something and developed in the Bron era. Everyone else was already a made product when they got to the Lakers.
the core of that team and coaching staff has been around since 2022
we got a shit FO
a rookie coach
Fuck Boston
nah, it’s just the media coverage on lakers tend to hyper focus on drama baiting 🙂
**We’ve been saying this for the longest**. The Lakers no longer have a culture in 2026. **And it begins with Jeanie and Rob, living off the Lakers past 17 titles**.
All the blame, per the NBA media, inevitably falls on the star players. But well-run franchises do not have these issues with stars, or when they rotate out complimentary pieces. 2000’s to 2010’s New England Patriots, San Antonio Spurs, 2020’s Milwaukee Brewers, Denver Nuggets, OKC Thunder, Bost… ugh, The Green Team. **All of them have a readily defined cultures. All of them have STRONG front offices.**
The Lakers have been riding Laker lore + LeBron’s draw power for the past 9 years, and with the exception of the 2020 Championship team… they’ve been more aimless than not. That’s on the front office. And now, with Luka and high expectations, they’re exposed.
**The days of winning a title with 1 or 2 or 3 great players and decent to mediocre support talent are OVER!** If you don’t have superior draft scouts to get 7-9 guys that are young, selfless, switchy, athletic, multi-level, multi-faceted, and versatile… you’re cooked.
***If******* ***Rob doesn’t do his job before the trade deadline, the last 20 games (sub .500) will look like the next 43 games.*** *Which will mirror the 2021 season where the Lakers started 21-6, and finished the final 46 games 22-24 with a 1st round exit.*
No one on Celtics is even 1% the whiner that Luka is. It’s kinda required to not be a little brat if you want the W.
Fix that and you won’t go straight to chip contender but you will have a much better TEAM.
The new owner supposed to make things better. But I guess this season is supposed to be a gap year. For me celtics have been pretty good since drafting both jayson tatum and jaylen brown, after that they really have turned it around with pritchard, white and anferenee simons is a damn good player bro
Simple thought, LA is in the west.
Lakers Must find a new team for rui and gabe immidiately. Because they aint producing anything
Honestly it’s just media bullshit.
Lakers are in the much harder conference with the same record as the celtics.
The Lakers live rent free in this butterball’s head. The Celtics are so great, yet he can’t stop tweeting about the Lakers for clicks and engagement. Loser.
Name me three years in the past 15 where this organization *didn’t* suck, I dare you lmao
Said this to my brother two weeks ago …. Lakers aint winning anything with Luka as their 1… go ahead and mob me and pitchfork me .. i was happy when we first landed him too… but having james harden 2.0 aint gotta cut it.. unless they give him the world team around him lol.
Obvious front office issues. I just hope JJ doesn’t get caught up in this too. I think he will be a great coach with an adequate team around him.
Luka + Lebron = lottery team
It’s a product of win now, LBJ championship window means you don’t have time for people to develop. Also bad drafting
Boston didn’t have LBJ to force them into having another superstar, they developed 2 guys and made savvy moves. No savvy moves happen when your a contender
Well Luka is an outlier
Pelinka needs to go
lol it’s fine lads
This is a gap year just enjoy the Luka step back 3s and LeBron dunks.
The blueprint now is to keep developing young and cheap players, then trade them when they get too expensive. Unfortunately Lakers haven’t been good at both. The last one they have is Max who got traded with AD.
Pelinka is a mediocre GM. He cannot spot talent. He thinks a player like DLo or Rui would help. Or Ayton. No, they will not help. Rob literally likes soft players. He likes losers. That’s not even hyperbole.
We only won in 2020 because LeBron showed up and brought in AD and attracted smart veterans like Rondo.
Pelinka’s best hits recently were not of his doing – Reaves picked the Lakers and Luka was offered to him.
TLDR recent good fortune was from players picking the Lakers or offers from the outside.
They understand how to manage assets and sell high when necessary (see Jrue, Smart, Porzingis), instead of always going “all in” and sacrificing the future for small short term gain.
Boston took years to build that team and develop players. Lakers are too impatient and trade players away trying to have an instant championship team.
No thoughts.
Yeah, no shit.
Bob Pelinka is overall poor at talent acquisition and identification. He has filled out the roster with cast offs and bargain bin caliber players. It’s been going on for 5 years now, and it won’t change until Bob is given a boot to the ass out of the door of the Lakers front office.
Rob Pelinka is abysmal at roster construction and is awful at the draft, it’s really just that. If he’s not being spoonfed star players, he’s giving out bad contracts and throwing away picks on bad trades or to draft busts.
Take the keys away from Klutch sports
Yeah Lakers is more of a superstar team, and Boston is more organic in their approach.
With that said, Fuck Boston.
You can argue that Lakers failed uphill