This stat line isn’t worth 60 million a year. What am I missing?
January 17, 2026
This stat line isn’t worth 60 million a year. What am I missing?
33 comments
Worth is defined what someone is willing to pay, to the dodgers disagree.
You are missing the part where the Dodgers don’t care about money because they have one of the highest revenue streams in the league. It’s a short term deal so even if he doesn’t live up to it he will be gone relatively soon. And he has opt outs so if he decides he wants a longer deal he will be off the payroll sooner rather than later. Also some of this is deferrals and signing bonuses.
He was the best free agent in a weak class at a time when contracts are skyrocketing.
A down year ? He’s had alot of stretches where he’s looked like an mvp type player
That birthday should say 29.
You know how many times I randomly read about someone and it happens to their birthday on that day?
Too many times it’s scary.
Those bastards could afford it.
The bidding war is what determines the value. With the Dodgers, Jays and Mets driving the price up he’s going to cost more than it feels like he’s worth. Most free agents are “overpaid.”
He’s also only a season removed from a .1000 OPS, 180 wRC+ performance
He had a down year because of injuries. When he was healthy he was an MVP candidate.
The problem was that he would get injured, refuse to disclose it and just continue to fail, then when the injury was disclosed, he refused to see team doctors and LEFT THE TEAM to go to Tampa to see his doctors at home. The Cubs were NOT happy about it.
It’s less about the dodgers getting Tucker and more about not letting other teams have him. That’s my tin foil hat theory at least.
Its not really what theyre worth anymore. Free agency for lack of a better term is an auction. A team wants XYZ, what is a team WILLING to pay.
He’s a good defender and baserunner too
I would say at least half of what he is getting paid is basically compensation for signing a short term deal.
A point in his favor is his consistency. He’s basically been good every year. When you look at performance over the last 3-4 years he starts to creep in to the top 15 by some metrics. His performance is well balanced too. Good power, good speed, good defense (given where he plays).
No single thing makes him special but the lack of deficits is rare.
Players aren’t valued by stats anymore. Just look at Vlad. He’s not a $500M player. Not even remotely close. Yet that’s his contract.
He played half the season last year with a broken hand and still posted a 143 OPS+ which was seventh in the NL. Before the injury he was one of three being talked about as a candidate for MVP. 60 mil is absurd for anyone but he’s been one of the best hitters in baseball for some time. He gets on base a ton, doesn’t chase, somehow steals bases despite being slow as hell, hits for power (the broken hand sapped those numbers last year). And the dodgers have unlimited money and might as well blow it out before the CBA changes.
That is a 1 season stat line where he didn’t even play the entire season… Kinda feels like you are trying to not get it, more than you don’t get it
Over the last 5 years he’s consistently been a 5 WAR player with a 145 OPS+. That’s gonna get you a massive contract when you’re still in your 20s.
You’re not the only person to ask this. I think there has been QUITE a few posts asking why Tucker is the one. So many posts in fact that I’m only just now realizing how underrated he’s been.
I think there is a lot at play- the weakness of upcoming free agent classes, the looming threat of a lockout- but ultimately, I think there are three major factors:
1) the marginal value of improving- when a team is already as good as the Dodgers the improvements are slighter, but even more expensive. When they’re deciding who can win them a game 7 of the World Series, it’s different than deciding who can win them a division.
2) Tucker’s injury history- you’re showing raw stats but he missed 20 games last year, and 80 games the year before. But the dodgers signed Glasnow and snell. They don’t need someone in July. They only need them in October. Injury risks don’t scare them.
So with Tucker, you need to look at the advanced stats- just use RC+ for example, it shows him as 40% better than the average player. Two years ago he was nearly 80% better than the average player. He has 30+ home run power, 30+ SB speed, while walking as often as he strikes out.
3) dodgers revenue- if some of the reports are to be believed, the dodgers now bring in a billion dollars in revenue. Up a few hundred million from just a few years ago. They have the highest ticket prices in the league and yet sell 4m tickets. They have a great TV deal. And they make SO much money from postseason. They have so much that they know what Success brings them, in terms of dollars. And they’re able to use that math to suddenly spend 20% more than the next closest team on a player that they feel is 40% better than whoever else they could get.
Y’all gone talk about a man on his birthday
You are missing the fact that the dodgers were willing to pay it.
Man after Soto, I just don’t know what these front offices see that I can’t 🤷🏽♂️
A willingness to pay whatever it takes to improve the roster.
something something if you are rational on every free agent youll come third
You’re missing thst it doesn’t matter if he accepted it
Not even worth $40 million…
He had an off season coming off injury, but even if he repeats his best season ever 4 times with the dodgers it’s a severe overpay. They don’t seem to care though
He has a higher career WRC+ and OPS+ than Vladdy to got 500mm, and can swipe 30 bases and play elite defence. It’s not that hard to understand
I believe the Dodgers offered him that much just so no other team can get him. When money isnt a problem for you, you can kinda just do that
You’re missing the part where Ernie Clement, Addison Barger, and Isiah Kiner-Falefa almost beat the Dodgers in the World Series and it scared the living shit out of them.
Maybe Tucker will take down the dodgers from the inside for the rest of the league.
You’re missing the Dodgers saying F this league, we’re in charge here. We will overpay and still sell the most merch on the way to another ring.
Salaries are no longer indicative of a player’s value to a team. The Dodger’s have turned it into a game of “Fuck you, you can’t have him.” Hard to argue with the strategy, they win.
Because they are looking at more than last year. His career numbers give a more positive picture, but still I agree it is too much.
Not that I am supporting the signing–I keep hearing too many innuendos from knowledgeable BB people that he might be a lockerroom negative.
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Worth is defined what someone is willing to pay, to the dodgers disagree.
You are missing the part where the Dodgers don’t care about money because they have one of the highest revenue streams in the league. It’s a short term deal so even if he doesn’t live up to it he will be gone relatively soon. And he has opt outs so if he decides he wants a longer deal he will be off the payroll sooner rather than later. Also some of this is deferrals and signing bonuses.
He was the best free agent in a weak class at a time when contracts are skyrocketing.
A down year ? He’s had alot of stretches where he’s looked like an mvp type player
That birthday should say 29.
You know how many times I randomly read about someone and it happens to their birthday on that day?
Too many times it’s scary.
Those bastards could afford it.
The bidding war is what determines the value. With the Dodgers, Jays and Mets driving the price up he’s going to cost more than it feels like he’s worth. Most free agents are “overpaid.”
Check the Savant page
93rd percentile xwOBA
98th Chase
96th BB
85th K
76th Whiff
He’s also only a season removed from a .1000 OPS, 180 wRC+ performance
He had a down year because of injuries. When he was healthy he was an MVP candidate.
The problem was that he would get injured, refuse to disclose it and just continue to fail, then when the injury was disclosed, he refused to see team doctors and LEFT THE TEAM to go to Tampa to see his doctors at home. The Cubs were NOT happy about it.
It’s less about the dodgers getting Tucker and more about not letting other teams have him. That’s my tin foil hat theory at least.
Its not really what theyre worth anymore. Free agency for lack of a better term is an auction. A team wants XYZ, what is a team WILLING to pay.
He’s a good defender and baserunner too
I would say at least half of what he is getting paid is basically compensation for signing a short term deal.
A point in his favor is his consistency. He’s basically been good every year. When you look at performance over the last 3-4 years he starts to creep in to the top 15 by some metrics. His performance is well balanced too. Good power, good speed, good defense (given where he plays).
No single thing makes him special but the lack of deficits is rare.
Players aren’t valued by stats anymore. Just look at Vlad. He’s not a $500M player. Not even remotely close. Yet that’s his contract.
He played half the season last year with a broken hand and still posted a 143 OPS+ which was seventh in the NL. Before the injury he was one of three being talked about as a candidate for MVP. 60 mil is absurd for anyone but he’s been one of the best hitters in baseball for some time. He gets on base a ton, doesn’t chase, somehow steals bases despite being slow as hell, hits for power (the broken hand sapped those numbers last year). And the dodgers have unlimited money and might as well blow it out before the CBA changes.
That is a 1 season stat line where he didn’t even play the entire season… Kinda feels like you are trying to not get it, more than you don’t get it
Over the last 5 years he’s consistently been a 5 WAR player with a 145 OPS+. That’s gonna get you a massive contract when you’re still in your 20s.
You’re not the only person to ask this. I think there has been QUITE a few posts asking why Tucker is the one. So many posts in fact that I’m only just now realizing how underrated he’s been.
I think there is a lot at play- the weakness of upcoming free agent classes, the looming threat of a lockout- but ultimately, I think there are three major factors:
1) the marginal value of improving- when a team is already as good as the Dodgers the improvements are slighter, but even more expensive. When they’re deciding who can win them a game 7 of the World Series, it’s different than deciding who can win them a division.
2) Tucker’s injury history- you’re showing raw stats but he missed 20 games last year, and 80 games the year before. But the dodgers signed Glasnow and snell. They don’t need someone in July. They only need them in October. Injury risks don’t scare them.
So with Tucker, you need to look at the advanced stats- just use RC+ for example, it shows him as 40% better than the average player. Two years ago he was nearly 80% better than the average player. He has 30+ home run power, 30+ SB speed, while walking as often as he strikes out.
3) dodgers revenue- if some of the reports are to be believed, the dodgers now bring in a billion dollars in revenue. Up a few hundred million from just a few years ago. They have the highest ticket prices in the league and yet sell 4m tickets. They have a great TV deal. And they make SO much money from postseason. They have so much that they know what Success brings them, in terms of dollars. And they’re able to use that math to suddenly spend 20% more than the next closest team on a player that they feel is 40% better than whoever else they could get.
Y’all gone talk about a man on his birthday
You are missing the fact that the dodgers were willing to pay it.
Man after Soto, I just don’t know what these front offices see that I can’t 🤷🏽♂️
A willingness to pay whatever it takes to improve the roster.
something something if you are rational on every free agent youll come third
You’re missing thst it doesn’t matter if he accepted it
Not even worth $40 million…
He had an off season coming off injury, but even if he repeats his best season ever 4 times with the dodgers it’s a severe overpay. They don’t seem to care though
He has a higher career WRC+ and OPS+ than Vladdy to got 500mm, and can swipe 30 bases and play elite defence. It’s not that hard to understand
I believe the Dodgers offered him that much just so no other team can get him. When money isnt a problem for you, you can kinda just do that
You’re missing the part where Ernie Clement, Addison Barger, and Isiah Kiner-Falefa almost beat the Dodgers in the World Series and it scared the living shit out of them.
Maybe Tucker will take down the dodgers from the inside for the rest of the league.
You’re missing the Dodgers saying F this league, we’re in charge here. We will overpay and still sell the most merch on the way to another ring.
Salaries are no longer indicative of a player’s value to a team. The Dodger’s have turned it into a game of “Fuck you, you can’t have him.” Hard to argue with the strategy, they win.
Because they are looking at more than last year. His career numbers give a more positive picture, but still I agree it is too much.
Not that I am supporting the signing–I keep hearing too many innuendos from knowledgeable BB people that he might be a lockerroom negative.