Can we please stop posting about this dumb theory?
This is excellent. Short version for people who don’t want to sit through it.
* Ran through all the data he could get about whether the 49ers are more injury prone than other teams going back up to 2005 and 2010 seasons. They are, but slightly. Ranked in the top 10, generally.
* Ran through both soft injury and overall injury history – we are slightly worse than average on soft injury (ligament, tendon, muscle).
* Ran through before and after substation was upgraded in 2014. Not a statistically significant difference.
* Ran through before and after Kyle took over. Not a statistically significant difference.
* Ran through players that joined the team and players that left the team – were they more prone to injuries while here? No significant difference – individual players don’t become injured more often when here than anywhere else.
* Points out that the guy who made the original tweet about the theory even says in his substack article that he hasn’t been able to test the EMF levels at the facility so his hypothesis may be completely incorrect.
* Consensus is that the most direct correlation to injuries is age of player and injury history of player. If a player is older or has a history of being injured, he’s more likely to get injured again. The 49ers have had a higher percentage of both than league average.
* Importantly, to me, he does not dismiss the hypothesis outright, just says we have zero evidence that supports it. And if we want to prove (or fully disprove) the hypothesis we would need a lot more data on how much EMF the players are exposed to at every facility in the NFL as well as the EMF they experience when not at the facility. If the goal is to determine if EMF increases soft tissue injuries, we need to know the TOTAL amount of EMF players experience. Some areas might have extremely high local EMF levels and others may have the opposite.
Seems like we continue with Lynch’s plan of creating a younger roster. Great summary and study.
It’s the burial mound you fools.
It would only be fair to build the same substation next to each teams stadiums. /s
Did he weigh role, pro bowlers vs. special teams, practice session workload, if surgery was involved, length of rehab, re-occuring injury, etc. etc.? No, he couldn’t possibly.
I don’t know anything about the theory he’s debunking, but his use of data is typical of reddit and youtube idiocy.
2nd most missed games due to injury for a team since 2017. 29th or worse injury rate in 4/9 seasons, ranking in the top 10 only twice. Yet, Lynch went on the podium the other day and told us that the team is “at the forefront of injury prevention” and that this is just bad luck and injuries happen in football.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting things to magically change. Internally promoting a trainer from your original SC staff to lead player health over 6 years ago does not count as a major change.
Tired of this “bad luck” nonsense, it’s clearly more than that.
I have a suspicion that it is California. California also has a higher than average rate of soft tissue injuries. If I had the means, I’d see if air pollution increases rates of soft tissue injury.
People just like to vent their frustrations at Kyle, the other coaches, the trainers, the doctors, the substation or whatever else (me included). I mean, it’s understandable when you have the kinds of injuries we’ve had. The QB fiasco in the Super Bowl and then weird greenlaw injury certainly made me wonder.
It’s not air pollution. The air is cleaner than most other cities. The only time we have bad air is with fires but a lot of cities have that.
The 49ers have a tendency to draft players who battled through significant injuries in college due to high upside/value at their slot. This has been going on from years and continued this year with the draft pick of M Williams. Even Pearsall and Bosa missed significant time in college with injury.
Then you get into the projects like Jalen Hurd and Marcus Lattimore that also had injury problems that were drafted in later rounds.
Even guys like McCafree and T Williams battled significant injuries before joining the roster via trade and have only gotten older since.
Put that together with the 11th oldest roster in football back to back years and there are going to be injuries.
The team owns great America which is so close it shares a parking lot, but parts of the park are considerably farther away from the substation than the current practice fields. IIRC they are closing great America or at least have talked about it.
The practice fields could be moved to great America with a tram to take players back and forth. That change could shut up the conspiracy theorists
I’m more worried about Kyle’s tendency to run players into the ground with his practices.
His callous theory is more batshit insane than any substation concerns.
It’s their practice sessions!!!!!
I needed a laugh this week and this dumb story provided it so I find the whole thing rather amusing.
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Can we please stop posting about this dumb theory?
This is excellent. Short version for people who don’t want to sit through it.
* Ran through all the data he could get about whether the 49ers are more injury prone than other teams going back up to 2005 and 2010 seasons. They are, but slightly. Ranked in the top 10, generally.
* Ran through both soft injury and overall injury history – we are slightly worse than average on soft injury (ligament, tendon, muscle).
* Ran through before and after substation was upgraded in 2014. Not a statistically significant difference.
* Ran through before and after Kyle took over. Not a statistically significant difference.
* Ran through players that joined the team and players that left the team – were they more prone to injuries while here? No significant difference – individual players don’t become injured more often when here than anywhere else.
* Points out that the guy who made the original tweet about the theory even says in his substack article that he hasn’t been able to test the EMF levels at the facility so his hypothesis may be completely incorrect.
* Consensus is that the most direct correlation to injuries is age of player and injury history of player. If a player is older or has a history of being injured, he’s more likely to get injured again. The 49ers have had a higher percentage of both than league average.
* Importantly, to me, he does not dismiss the hypothesis outright, just says we have zero evidence that supports it. And if we want to prove (or fully disprove) the hypothesis we would need a lot more data on how much EMF the players are exposed to at every facility in the NFL as well as the EMF they experience when not at the facility. If the goal is to determine if EMF increases soft tissue injuries, we need to know the TOTAL amount of EMF players experience. Some areas might have extremely high local EMF levels and others may have the opposite.
Seems like we continue with Lynch’s plan of creating a younger roster. Great summary and study.
It’s the burial mound you fools.
It would only be fair to build the same substation next to each teams stadiums. /s
Did he weigh role, pro bowlers vs. special teams, practice session workload, if surgery was involved, length of rehab, re-occuring injury, etc. etc.? No, he couldn’t possibly.
I don’t know anything about the theory he’s debunking, but his use of data is typical of reddit and youtube idiocy.
2nd most missed games due to injury for a team since 2017. 29th or worse injury rate in 4/9 seasons, ranking in the top 10 only twice. Yet, Lynch went on the podium the other day and told us that the team is “at the forefront of injury prevention” and that this is just bad luck and injuries happen in football.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting things to magically change. Internally promoting a trainer from your original SC staff to lead player health over 6 years ago does not count as a major change.
Tired of this “bad luck” nonsense, it’s clearly more than that.
I have a suspicion that it is California. California also has a higher than average rate of soft tissue injuries. If I had the means, I’d see if air pollution increases rates of soft tissue injury.
People just like to vent their frustrations at Kyle, the other coaches, the trainers, the doctors, the substation or whatever else (me included). I mean, it’s understandable when you have the kinds of injuries we’ve had. The QB fiasco in the Super Bowl and then weird greenlaw injury certainly made me wonder.
It’s not air pollution. The air is cleaner than most other cities. The only time we have bad air is with fires but a lot of cities have that.
The 49ers have a tendency to draft players who battled through significant injuries in college due to high upside/value at their slot. This has been going on from years and continued this year with the draft pick of M Williams. Even Pearsall and Bosa missed significant time in college with injury.
Then you get into the projects like Jalen Hurd and Marcus Lattimore that also had injury problems that were drafted in later rounds.
Even guys like McCafree and T Williams battled significant injuries before joining the roster via trade and have only gotten older since.
Put that together with the 11th oldest roster in football back to back years and there are going to be injuries.
The team owns great America which is so close it shares a parking lot, but parts of the park are considerably farther away from the substation than the current practice fields. IIRC they are closing great America or at least have talked about it.
The practice fields could be moved to great America with a tram to take players back and forth. That change could shut up the conspiracy theorists
I’m more worried about Kyle’s tendency to run players into the ground with his practices.
His callous theory is more batshit insane than any substation concerns.
It’s their practice sessions!!!!!
I needed a laugh this week and this dumb story provided it so I find the whole thing rather amusing.