Episode 25: Panarin Out, Isles Sweep, Devils Reeling | Tri-State Hockey Podcast

Jonny Lazarus, Arthur Staple, and Mike Rupp are back for Episode 25 of the Tri-State Hockey Podcast, presented by Novig — and today the vibes are mixed, with Islanders fans celebrating a sweep of the season series against the Devils and Rangers (owning the Tri-State area!), Rangers fans processing the underwhelming Artemi Panarin trade to LA and debating the team’s direction, and Devils fans venting frustration amid another tough loss, Nico Hischier’s accountability, and Jack Hughes’ lingering injury heading into the Olympics.

The Rangers’ Panarin trade dominates — the guys break down the return (prospects, picks, and that puzzling 2x$11M extension), Chris Drury’s handling of expectations, and whether it signals a retool or rebuild. Plus, speculation on Adam Fox’s future (no-move clause looming at age 28?), Vincent Trocheck’s trade value, and voicemails roasting the return while questioning center depth and patience with Drury.

The Islanders shine bright heading into the break — riding wins over Pitt and Jersey, finding ways to grind out points, and benefiting from rest (only Horvat/Palat at Olympics). Debates on leash lengths for Jonathan Drouin vs. Anthony Duclair, Mathew Barzal’s leadership, and voicemails highlighting a favorable schedule (10 of last 12 at home) and positive momentum.

For the Devils, a brutal loss to the Isles caps a dark stretch — discussions on Nico Hischier’s postgame ownership of a key mistake, the team’s inability to score, Sheldon Keefe’s systems vs. player execution, and Jack Hughes’ health woes (should he skip the Olympics for a playoff push?). Voicemails call for roster complements to the core, defining roles, and addressing fan negativity amid pride and injuries.

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Timestamps
0:00 – Episode 25 intro & Tri-State vibes: Isles own the area
2:30 – Rangers: Panarin trade reactions, return breakdown, extension confusion
3:00 – Voicemail: Nicole on underwhelming return & direction concerns
6:00 – Drury’s narrative control & trade expectations
12:00 – Adam Fox speculation: No-move clause & prime years
18:00 – Voicemail: Mike on Drury’s “fault” & horrific return
29:00 – Voicemail: Ben on Rangers’ center woes post-Trocheck
32:00 – Voicemail: Marvin on retool label & Drury’s patience
35:00 – Rangers rebuild vs. retool debate & center depth
47:00 – Islanders: Positive outlook, rest benefits, schedule advantages
48:00 – Voicemail: Chris from Hicksville on Isles’ break & home-heavy finish
53:00 – Voicemail: Ariel on coaching perspectives & mistakes
54:00 – Coaching: Drouin vs. Duclair leash & accountability
58:00 – Devils: Tough losses, Nico’s accountability on Horvat goal
1:03:00 – Voicemail: Anonymous on Devils’ scoring drought & Keefe’s style
1:10:00 – Defining roles: Lou Lamoriello’s approach & core complements
1:13:00 – Voicemail: Jo on fan negativity, pride, & condensed schedule woes
1:15:00 – Jack Hughes’ injury, leadership, & Olympics priority rant
1:20:00 – Wrap-up + Devils/Rangers therapy sessions

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29 comments

  7. I’m honestly ready for the Devils to move on from the Hughes brothers. I don’t even care if they’re traded and go on to lead another team to a Stanley Cup win. Jack is not reliable in terms of health and he brings absolutely no maturity or leadership to the team. He’s frankly unlikable at this point based off of his press and his lack of leadership. He’s lost me as a fan.

  9. Great discussion fellas. NJD fan here. Season is 100% over (has been for weeks). Fitz MUST GO, he can't have anything to do with the retool/rebuild that must occur. He's had 5 years and it's been all downhill since 22/23. The core needs to be broken up, lots of skill but they simply don't. Jack has shown his true colors, he is far from a franchise player. When he's healthy (not very often) he is a great playmaker but he's charmin soft and what Rupp said at the end is so true. If he wanted to play the last few games would have. He's a major problem in that locker room, and it's only gotten worse since Fitz dropped the ball with Quinn. Trade both Jack and Luke, we're never going anywhere with them. Take that $ and get some real gritty players like Marchand who are committed and focused on winning. Way too many distractions with the Hughes bros, let them go play with Quinn in MN. It's clear that's what they want to do anyway.

  10. Fitz put all his chips in on the Hughes brothers. He lost!!! They are poisonous to the locker room and not team leaders. Both can pack there bags and leave Jersey. These guys act like they have won something, haven’t proven s**t. Always drama and injuries around these two. They have set this organization back years. Jacks comments pissed me off and he’s an arrogant punk. Fans love this team and work hard and spend there hard earned $ to see and support the Devils. Most disappointing season I can ever remember. 10 year rebuild for this garbage. No passion, emotion, or fight from this team. #firefitz

  11. Whats the F Rupp talking about Nico and his mistake on FO?🤣 Hischier did his job -won FO. After that is Kovacevic's stupid play thats led to a goal. Rupp is his usual self – a clown

  12. I don't know why someone is the president and the GM of a team those are two separate roles that create checks and balances. Drury being given that much power has allowed him to wreck this team. James stolen is a billionaire He could care less if the Rangers win or lose to a certain degree. The garden will always be sold out that might not be asses in every seat but it will be sold out. What a disgrace

  13. I'm not a Chris Drury apologist in fact I want to see him gone as general manager of the New York Rangers but I don't think anybody is looking at this trade with any type of logic there is a real chance we could have just got nothing for bread. He held all of the cards all of them and everybody's complaining about the return. We move emotion insert logic you got what you got and we're lucky we got something.

  15. This is by far the best hockey podcast for the devils, rupper you’re the man, and I think more guys on the devils need to be called on their bullshit.

  16. You didn’t mention that Nico was playing through illness all week as Keefe said he lost 10 pounds and continued to play 20+ mins every game the past week.

  17. Rangers should go all in to get Cutter Gauthier by offer sheet. It is pretty much the only way get to back on ur feed. He can play center he played as a center through the juniors and he has already chemistry with Perreault.

  18. Drury wants Brady Tkachuk, don’t know how he gets him, if it’s even possible or if Brady would even want to come to the NYR, but that’s a player he would move anything for him. He wants a team built like Brady…hence the trade for JT. I’m not holding my breath

  20. Besides the lltrade, what upsets me is this facade that management cares about the fans so they send us a letter. We want you to make the team better. Drury amateur hour at the Apollo

  23. It’s obvious what the problem is and why guys are happier elsewhere it’s Drury but this group is a bunch of crybabies Truba being the biggest one if he was so miserable why did block the trade in the summer !!!

  24. Thanks Rupper for giving a little of the harsh truth on Jack. I said something very similar the other night on a livestream and many people tried telling me I was crazy. You have confirmed exactly what I was telling people. I hope Jack matures and gets it together. But there has been plenty to complain about with him as of late…

  28. Well, now that you brought it up, you mentioned all these players are all happy now. Well that’s great. I’m glad they’re all happy but when they play together as a team, they had three shots at a Stanley Cup and lost because they are weak.

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