There’s nothing better than longing for baseball in the offseason and our pal and longtime MLB reporter Robby Incmikoski joins Nestor from Pittsburgh to discuss his “Sacred Grounds” ballpark book and the malaise of the Steelers and ‘yins booing Renegade.
Robby Incmikoski, a longtime MLB reporter now in Pittsburgh, discusses his book “Sacred Grounds,” a photo book featuring pictures from all 30 MLB ballparks. He highlights the design contributions of Janet Marie Smith, who played a significant role in creating Camden Yards and PNC Park. Incmikoski also touches on the current state of the Pittsburgh Steelers, expressing uncertainty about the future of head coach Mike Tomlin amidst fan dissatisfaction and team performance issues. The book, available only on his website, includes anecdotes from players and staff, offering a unique perspective on the game behind the game.
Robby Incmikoski’s Background and Book Project
Nestor Aparicio introduces Robby Incmikoski, a longtime MLB reporter now based in Pittsburgh, and mentions their previous discussions about baseball and the Steelers.
Robby explains his current situation, having taken a year and a half off to write a book and is considering future employment in media.
Robby shares his experience as a TV reporter for Major League Baseball for 16 years, highlighting the numerous stories and people he met.
Robby discusses his book, “Sacred Grounds,” a photo book featuring pictures from all 30 MLB ballparks, and mentions he will show the Baltimore chapter to Nestor.
Camden Yards and Its Designer, Janet Marie Smith
Robby praises Camden Yards and Pittsburgh’s PNC Park, both designed by Janet Marie Smith, as two of the most beautiful ballparks in MLB.
Nestor and Robby discuss the unique features of Camden Yards, such as the warehouse where home run balls are displayed and the old-school design elements.
Robby highlights Janet Marie Smith’s significant impact on baseball, including her work with the LA Dodgers and her role in designing and redesigning various ballparks.
Nestor mentions the Orioles’ ownership’s reluctance to recognize Janet Marie Smith’s contributions, despite her significant impact on the game.
The Impact of Ballpark Design on Fan Experience
Nestor and Robby discuss the lasting impact of Camden Yards on baseball stadium design, with many new ballparks borrowing elements from it.
Robby explains how Janet Marie Smith’s design philosophy has influenced the redesign of PNC Park and other ballparks, creating unique and memorable fan experiences.
Nestor shares his experiences visiting various ballparks, including Dodger Stadium and the Oakland Coliseum, and how the design of these stadiums affects the fan experience.
Robby and Nestor agree that the design of a ballpark can make a significant difference in how fans perceive the game and the atmosphere of the stadium.
Robby’s Book and Its Unique Content
Robby describes the content of his book, “Sacred Grounds,” which includes scenic photos from all 30 MLB ballparks and stories behind the scenes.
Robby shares anecdotes from players and staff about significant moments and everyday experiences at various ballparks.
Nestor and Robby discuss the importance of telling the stories behind the stories in baseball, providing a deeper understanding of the game and its history.
Robby emphasizes the book’s value as a Christmas gift for baseball fans, offering unique insights and perspectives on the game.
Robby’s Transition from Eagles to Steelers Fan
Nestor and Robby briefly discuss Robby’s transition from being a fan of the Philadelphia Eagles to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Robby explains his loyalty to the people who helped him in his career and how the new ownership group in Philadelphia soured his support for the Eagles.
Nestor and Robby share their thoughts on the current state of the Steelers and the potential changes in the team, including the future of head coach Mike Tomlin.
Robby expresses his admiration for Mike Tomlin and his success as a coach, despite the ongoing speculation about his future with the Steelers.
The Upcoming Steelers vs. Ravens Game
Nestor and Robby discuss the upcoming Steelers vs. Ravens game, highlighting the rivalry between the two teams and the challenges each faces.
Robby mentions Ben Roethlisberger’s comments about the need for change within the Steelers, adding to the speculation about Tomlin’s future.
Nestor and Robby analyze the strengths and weaknesses of both teams, including the performance of quarterbacks Lamar Jackson and Aaron Rodgers.
Robby predicts the potential outcomes of the game, acknowledging the unpredictability of NFL matches and the unique challenges each team faces.
Robby’s Book Sales and Final Thoughts
Robby provides information on how to purchase his book, “Sacred Grounds,” directly from his website, RobbieInce.com.
Nestor and Robby share their favorite local spots in Pittsburgh and Baltimore, including restaurants and landmarks, and express their mutual appreciation for each other.
Robby emphasizes the importance of supporting local businesses and the unique experiences they offer, highlighting the charm of Pittsburgh and Baltimore.
Nestor concludes the conversation by expressing his admiration for Robby’s work and his dedication to capturing the essence of baseball and its history.
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
MLB reporter, Robby Incmikoski, baseball, Steelers, Camden Yards, Janet Marie Smith, ballparks, Sacred Grounds, photo book, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, football, Mike Tomlin, Lamar Jackson, book sales.
SPEAKERS
Robby Incmikoski, Nestor Aparicio
Nestor Aparicio 00:01
Well, we are W, N, S, T, am 1570 to Baltimore. We are Baltimore positive. We are positively into the holiday season. We are doing not one but six Maryland crab cake tour stops till times get better and the football gets better around here. It’s all brought to you by the Maryland lottery hovering scratch offs to give away. We’ll also have some candy cane scented tickets. I haven’t picked those up yet. Whole office is going to smell like a candy can. But if you feel like Santa Claus at East Point mall with the penguins, this guy’s been my friend for three decades. He did the show back in the spring and into the summer. I think we had a week where we were talking about Pittsburgh and Baltimore and baseball and all star guy. I don’t know what it was, but he has put together a an homage to the great game, the summer game. So I want to make this a little bit of a holiday segment here, not just talk ravens and Steelers. Robbie ins McCaskey has been my pal. He is a Philadelphian who’s made his way to Pittsburgh via Minnesota and one time, if you recognize this chipper young lad, one time, blast indoor arena. It wasn’t even royal farms arena yet. Then, right? With first Mariner arena,
01:04
it was first Marin arena, yep, all right,
Nestor Aparicio 01:07
and, and Bowie Bay socks, as I found out too, right? You ran around 2002 and 2003 and now in you’re not in semi retirement. You feel like my pal Tim Wendel. He’s the writer in residence at Hopkins. He was down in Antarctica last week, so it’s crazy, but I feel like you’re the reporter in residence in Pittsburgh, right? Is that? Yeah, at this point, what are you doing?
Robby Incmikoski 01:29
Man, yeah, it’s kind of a, kind of a unique situation. I just took time off to write my book, and then I’m going to get a job at some point here. But you know, you know how media changes Ness, you know it,
Nestor Aparicio 01:41
I’m in a job, like 35 years. Man, it’s crazy.
Robby Incmikoski 01:43
Yeah, I just took about a year and a half off, to be honest with you, which is kind of crazy. Nothing I ever thought I’d be doing in my life. But here I am, and I don’t know, I spent 16 years as a TV reporter Major League Baseball. And you know, you get to meet a lot of people over that time and tell a lot of stories. And as you know, I think it’s a lot of fans know well as well that there are so many stories behind the story. And you see these reporters, you know that work on the field, and they capture all these stories. And what I think a lot of people don’t realize is that a lot of the a lot of stuff dies on the vine, whether you prepare for it and don’t tell it, or whether you tell it and people forget about it. It’s kind of cool to put a lot of these TV hits that we call, that we do on TV, to put them in book form, and that’s what we came up with. And we tell a lot of good stories, a lot of stories behind the story,
Nestor Aparicio 02:37
but it’s about ballparks, right? Like at heart, and
Robby Incmikoski 02:41
it’s a photo book. Yeah, I guess I should explain that a little better. Nest. Thank you. Thank you for mentioning that.
Nestor Aparicio 02:47
Cathedrals of the game, there’s a reason I went to 30 ballparks in 30 it’s called sacred grounds.
Robby Incmikoski 02:52
Hold that up, yep. So that’s it, right here. So it is called sacred grounds, and it’s a coffee table book. It’s a photo book with pictures from from all 30 ballparks, and I’m going to pull up the Baltimore chapter for you here in a second. So pardon me for looking away while I talk. I’m just making sure I get to the right page here for you, Nestor,
Nestor Aparicio 03:10
I know what Camden Yards looks like, but I don’t know what picture you used. So I don’t think
Robby Incmikoski 03:15
there is a bad picture at Camden Yards to be honest with you, because it’s, I think Pittsburgh and Baltimore, and that’s just my personal opinion. Pittsburgh and Baltimore are the two most beautiful ballparks in Major League Baseball. So it’s, it’s kind of a cool place, like, for people that haven’t been there, the experience that at Camden Yards is an amazing one for a lot of reasons. And if you really love the game of baseball number one, you could see how the ballpark has stood the test of time. And the lady that helped design a Camden Yards, not the architect, but the designer, like put the warehouse where the warehouse is, you know, and just kind of, kind of the way, you know, the ideas with the brass plaques where each of the home run balls have landed. Her name is Janet Marie Smith. She currently works for the LA Dodgers now, but she lives in Baltimore full time, and one of my favorite people. Incidentally, she’s amazing, right? She’s amazing.
Nestor Aparicio 04:13
She considers me one of her favorites. Which makes it even better. There are so
Robby Incmikoski 04:17
few people nest there are so few people that realize the impact she has had on the game of baseball. And what I mean by that is she helps Hall of Fame. I mean, there’s no doubt about, I think at some point in time, recognition would have to come our way. You know,
Nestor Aparicio 04:32
Angelos was so petty that she’s not in the Oriole Hall of Fame. She designed Camden Yards. And the only way she gets crazy her props is when people like you and I talk about
Robby Incmikoski 04:42
which is crazy, because the way she has impacted the baseball experience, and nobody knows who she is. And I’m not saying nobody is like nobody. I’m talking about fans, mainstream media. I can’t believe that her impact isn’t celebrated more throughout the game of baseball than. It is, and what I mean,
Nestor Aparicio 05:00
might be the most impactful woman of our lifetime, in the game, in the game. I mean, I’d have to really think about that.
Robby Incmikoski 05:09
Yeah, it’s something you’d have to think about. That’s not taking anything away from Janet, obviously, but it’s like people talk about Camden Yards, right that place, about what 34 What’s this could be 35th or 36th year. I think of Camden Yards, it’ll
Nestor Aparicio 05:23
be 35 because it 92 would open. Yeah, yeah.
Robby Incmikoski 05:27
90 April was April’s whatever was 92 April 6. 92 when it opens. I’m trying to remember off top my head, but and Rick, Rick Sutcliffe started the first ever game at Camden Yards. But what’s crazy about that is like that place has stood the test of time over the decades, right? That was outside of Toronto. Baltimore was the first like new ballpark to come in, and it’s gorgeous. You look at the way it’s designed, you walk in, you kind of you got to look down to see the field. You got to hang out in right field where the flag poles are, the warehouse behind your Boogs, barbecue, crab cakes, all kinds of delicious food in that place. But then you look at the little nuances of the place. You look at the sides of the of the rows, like in the old school Baltimore baseball figure that’s there. You look at the ushers. They’re wearing, like old school shirts, like, you know, they see him wear orange shirts one night. Didn’t you see him wear, you know, other color shirts, that kind of thing.
Nestor Aparicio 06:27
All that was such an awakening on opening day at 92 too, because it was throwback to the 50s, really, in the 40s and the 30s, Polo Grounds, all of that kind of stuff. That when you walked in, and I was a 24 year old walking in there after Memorial Stadium, after coming up to Philly and seeing the vet and fake grass and the circular stadiums and the ashtrays and the toilet bowls and all that stuff, all that like, you know, the design of stadia has stood the test of time over 30 years in baseball, where We don’t talk about football stadiums, maybe Lambo, but Lambo is not even. Lambo was the erector set that I saw 30 years ago. Lambo is now just a giant mall, you know, that’s been, that’s been fortified in the middle of nowhere, you know, at the end of a river in the middle of nowhere in Wisconsin. So these cathedrals of the game for me, the fact that that Fenway Park and Wrigley Field are still standing, and they found a way to make that happen, and I was actually Janet Murray’s guest at my favorite ballpark. And I don’t say this to patronize Janet Marie. She knows I went to Dodger Stadium back in September for a Giants game, believe it or not, it was a night that Kershaw announced his retirement. So it was like a big thing. Well, it was a giveaway. It was a beautiful night. I mean, Chavez Ravine, and what she’s done to that place, which is talk about Camden Yards being 35 that place was built in the late 50s, right? Was built without water fountains. It built into a ravine. And I defy you to go to Dodger Stadium and feel like you’re not someplace really special, like from the minute you walk in there. So her specialty is building special places. And I think Pittsburgh’s that way. I think they all outside of Tampa, where the roof blew off, even in Miami, where they build an ill fated mall and Little Havana. I mean, they’ve tried. I mean, in San Diego, the thing about Camden Yards is it’s beget cookie cutter, knock off clones of which Pittsburgh kind of is one of which the original rangers and San Diego, they all have elements of Camden Yards. They’ve all borrowed safe go Denver, Denver a lot, I mean, but most of those places are like little Camden Yards. To some degree, you would agree with that, right?
Robby Incmikoski 08:45
Yeah, I would think so. And then, you know, you look at, but when you look at the design, the original point, though, and you’re right that could be used as the model for the quote, unquote, new ballpark. When I say new, you know, 35 years. But when you look at that place and see just how it stood the test of time, that’s probably the most impressive thing about Camden Yards, and when you look at why that is Janet Marie Smith is the reason she worked with the redesign of PNC Park, where they pulled sections out of the outfield and added two bars, and they are the two hottest spots where everybody hangs out. At PNC Park. You know, you look at Fenway Park, you cannot move the footprint of Fenway Park. It’s it’s impossible to do So Janet helped with the redesign, helped create more space as much as she possibly could in that ballpark, Wrigley Field, Dodger Stadium, all the other many places, Petco Park, she’s consulted with there’s so many
Nestor Aparicio 09:45
places, minor league ballparks too, including up endless Sarasota, for our fans, for anybody that’s been to Sarasota, she did not build Ed Smith Stadium. She came in. And all of the niceties, all of the throw. That’s exactly right, trash cans in Sarasota and the foyers and the entryways and the palm trees and the courtyard out in left field and the picnic but, I mean, I’ve been to Sarasota, you know? I I go every year, you know? And, and it’s so Janet, Marie and, and, you know what, I’m there now, and this is the pickle on the Orioles, a little bit. And I don’t mind doing that, because that’s what I do. But it’s fallen a little bit into disrepair, in a way, in Sarasota, where it was so bright and shiny, and she’s been working for the Dodgers for a dozen years, 15 years now, whatever it’s been that that Sarasota needs some TLC because it was built so nice and so Disney World, that the upkeep part of just the paint and just all of it, you know, do ownership. I’ll get the Rubenstein group. They’re trying to fix the baseball team. But it is amazing how that experience, when you walk into a stadium, you notice it right and, and I’m talking about even when I’m in the old Oakland Coliseum and it’s falling apart. There was a part where I went literally to go pee into the men’s room, and I’m in Memorial Stadium again, like transform the smell the way it was built, the underneath of the stands, just how stadiums and ballparks and your first experience, if you’re a youngster coming to PNC Park would be way different than have gone to three rivers. And for a Philly kid like you to go to the vet versus go to Citizens Bank, there is something about selling the game that you feel, as I said, you feel like you’re someplace special when like when you come to Camden, when anybody comes to Camden, yards out of town, they all brag about this is special play. I feel like I went somewhere.
Robby Incmikoski 11:49
Oh god, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s gorgeous, and I don’t ever see that changing. So how about this? So the shot,
Nestor Aparicio 11:56
oh, I’m here. Go ahead. We just took a
Robby Incmikoski 11:59
scenic shot. So I don’t know how well you can see that? So you get a scenic shot of every every ballpark
Nestor Aparicio 12:04
that that’s right from Chris pika season ticket. That’s where pika sits about five, eight rows up in the upper deck, right by an own plate. That’s his ticket, right there.
Robby Incmikoski 12:12
It’s amazing, man. Yeah, so I just tried to take the most scenic photo I could, if possible.
Nestor Aparicio 12:18
You took these pictures when you were just out. These are called,
Robby Incmikoski 12:21
yeah, when I was working, yeah, yeah, exactly. I took, I took every picture in the book, with the exception of a few. And we credited, you know, those photos, certain photos that are going to make sense that clearly I did not take when you read the story. And we just grabbed a bunch of anecdotes from each place. So, you know, everybody’s heard from Cal about, you know, playing game 2131 in a row. But we spoke to Jeff Hewson, who was a longtime utility infielder, and he explained what it was like playing third base next to Cal on the night he broke the record. So we have a first hand account of that. So it’s just a lot of stuff, like you talk about the stories behind the story around baseball. Who’s heard from the guy next to him? You know, we always heard about Barry Bonds setting Major League Baseball’s home run record back in August of 2007 we interviewed the guy who gave up that Homer. What was that night like from his perspective? We’ve heard Barry talk a ton about it, but not the guy who gave it up. I mean, yeah, he’s talked about it before as well, but hasn’t talked about it a ton. So, you know, we just went into, you know, the game behind the game. And like you Nestor, you know, a ton of people around sports, you know, and have a ton of stories to tell. And fans find that stuff interesting, and especially in this era of content, content, content, that’s all everybody wants. So, you know, we tried to explore that a little bit, and just told a bunch of stories, man, we talked about big moments that happened. And happened in each place, or what the everyday ballpark experience is like. And, you know, it worked out pretty good. It’s a nice Christmas gift for anybody that has a baseball fan in their life.
Nestor Aparicio 13:52
Robbie, it’s got a new book out. He is up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Don’t hold that against him, because he’s not really a Steeler for your Eagle guy, right?
Robby Incmikoski 14:00
Probably, yeah, well, I grew up a ball boy and working in the training room for the Eagles, and then the new ownership group came in, which is still the same ownership group, Jeffrey Laurie, and he fired both of my mentors, so I kind of soured on him a little bit. I gotcha. I understand that. Yeah, I just, I just, I don’t know. I’m real loyal to the people that that helped, you know, create opportunities for me. So I, I kind of soured on him a little bit, so I don’t root for him anymore. And so now I root for the Steelers. You know, I’m able to be a fan in the game of football now,
Nestor Aparicio 14:35
the wrong time. I’m just gonna say, Man, you did, you know, I mean the
Robby Incmikoski 14:39
90s, when they were, you know, early 90s with Buddy Ryan and in mid 90s with Ray Rhodes.
Nestor Aparicio 14:44
And so what’s wrong with his Steelers? It’s Steelers week here right now. What’s wrong with us?
Robby Incmikoski 14:48
Yeah, I don’t know. Man, Nestor, a little bit of everything, and there’s a lot of chatter. And here’s what I’ll say. I don’t think, and I don’t know if anybody saw Ben roethlisbergers comments talking about how it might be good for both. Sides to for a change to happen. Good for Mike and good for the Steelers, to change we’ve been made. These are public comments. They’re being talked about all over. I’m not breaking any news here by saying it, but for the first time, and this sounds crazy to say, this is the first time in 13 years of me living in Pittsburgh where I feel like there could be a chance that I could see this being the end of the tunnel for for Mike, the end of the line for Mike with the Steelers. Now, I’m not saying that’s going to happen. I’m just saying I could see something like that happening. Well, they don’t have a quarterback, right? I mean, and the fans, it’s hard. It’s just hard as we know, you notice, you know, Lamar Jackson quarterbacks are ravens, and they’re good every year, because Lamar Jackson is a great quarterback, right? Like so I think you look at, you know, they were booing during renegade on Sunday against buffalo. I don’t know how to make it’s all over the place. I haven’t call into Tommy Shaw to see how he feels about I have never heard that. I’ve never seen I’m talking angry booze and, of course, the fire Tomlin chance, that’s always been a topic since the day I moved here 13 years ago. But you know what? Mike is really well liked. People like for people that want Mike gone, they’re just frustrated that the team is not performing well. Mike has been a great representative for the city of Pittsburgh. He has won a Super Bowl. He has and I know this is people get tired of talking about it, but the craziest thing with Mike Tomlin Nestor is this everybody, most of the fans in Pittsburgh want him gone. Every media outlet nationwide would say that they’re crazy for that to happen. You know, both things could be true. Look at what Andy Reid did in Philly, and then look at what he did in Kansas City, right? Like maybe that’s the situation here. Who knows? Who knows? You know, Ben said, Watch him go to Penn State and win a national championship. That would not surprise me either. Not at all. Mike will put up all this recruiting craziness that you know that and I L has become in college sports, but, but wherever Mike goes, you know he’s gonna win. That’s not to be debated. He’s a great coach. He should be in the Hall of Fame. He’s a winning coach. But Aaron Rodgers, who just turned 42 yesterday, Said, essentially, and I’m paraphrasing here, that they weren’t as prepared as they could be for the game, you know, and that’s a stinging indictment when a four time MVP at 42 years old is saying that in his first year with a franchise, you look at this defense, which I’d have to do the math, Nestor football isn’t my area of concentration, but it’s either the highest paid defense or close to it, and they’re just not getting what they invested in this defense. Now, all that said, I would not be surprised, not be surprised if the Steelers won in Baltimore on Sunday, because they have a habit of giving Lamar Jackson fits, which they’ve done many, many times. I can’t explain why, because Lamar Jackson is a great quarterback, and sometimes he comes and looks just average against the Steelers, for whatever reason. So for me, man, I don’t know what to make of this weekend. I could see Derrick Henry running for 250 yards on his own and four touchdowns, and I could also see Derrick Henry running for 57 yards and no touchdowns.
Nestor Aparicio 18:27
You’ve seen the Ravens offensive line, and you saw they played against the Bengals there. I mean, it’s not a lot to recommend right now, right? I mean, this is right. This is franchises. Right.
Robby Incmikoski 18:36
I could see it going either way, and credit both guys. You look at John Harbaugh, he’s a Super Bowl winning quarterback. You look or a quarterback Super Bowl winning coach, you know, I think Lamar Jackson could be a Super Bowl winning quarterback, no question about it, you know. And you look at the level of success that both these coaches had, and it’s amazing to see them continue for as long as they have.
Nestor Aparicio 18:55
Robbie and mccowski, he’s got a book. He’s, we’ve talked a little football because he’s in Pittsburgh, but he’s really a Philly guy, but really a baseball guy. Has been a baseball guy for two decades, covering the twins and covering the pirates, has made his home up in Pittsburgh, and the books out now. So as a guy that did 30 ballparks in 30 days, Getty Lee once said to me years ago, any night at the ballpark is a great night, you know, like in any ballpark. And he was a guy going on the road, like I watch a game anywhere I went to 30 ballparks in 30 nights, you know, 30 days. For, like a stunt. 12 years ago we did it for, for bone marrow, red tree, and for, I remember my hero and I had a thing about being in all of those ballparks every night and jetting around and all the things I had to do, playing strange and automobiles to get there rain delays and all that kind of stuff that happened. But for me that they’re all I wouldn’t say one’s better than the other. I found things that I like about Tampa. Oakland was still in the league. Then I found I love that old dump. I did. I loved it. I loved everything about it. I. A couple weeks ago when I on the BART, when I was out in the Bay Area, I took pictures of it because I had some good times there. Ravens won an AFC Championship game there. You know, Palmer pitched against catfish. So like, for me, I’m I when I walk into those places, and I did long segments with Luke, just about the history of of the the space, the theology of the spaces. And you’ve captured these images in these stories, and I want to make sure your book gets sold. What is that? That’s Oakland, yep, yep. Mount Davis. Look at that in the outfield out there. What an atrocity. Hey. So tell me when they can find the book.
Robby Incmikoski 20:36
I want to make sure we go. I’m only selling it at my site. Robbie ints, R, O, B, B, y, I, N, c.com, that’s the only place people can buy because I invested in the whole project and produced the whole book myself. I had a team, a team at a group called the sender book services, work committee. They’re fantastic. Did a wonderful job with it so it can only be purchased on my site. Robbie ince com, but here’s the craziest thing that’s I want to point out one thing before we go. You think about Oakland, right? The craziest thing was the tunnel, right? So this was the tunnel that fans walked down. So this is where players made their way to the field, and this is where the fans were making their way to their quote, unquote expensive seats at Oakland. Now, that place had been neglected for the last probably handful of years, right? But look at this. There’s a fan walking out. That’s the visiting clubhouse right there. He’s walking there’s a guy getting dressed on the other side of that wall for a game. That’s where Max Scherzer, yeah, it’s going in, right? I got 10 or 12 feet away, is right inside that door and this dumpy tunnel. And look at this. Like, look at that. This thing you pick up with one hand. Okay, and there’s a paper sign that says, fans, players, it’s crazy.
Nestor Aparicio 21:48
Robbie ince is the way to find that. R, O, B, B, y, I n, C, I’m gonna send everybody out to do that. Dude. I love you, man. I mean, you know, like, we got to get together. You Me and Bert Bly Levin, we’ll go at pasta together or something.
Robby Incmikoski 22:00
Former broadcast partner, and that’s the greatest place to eat, Little Italy. I’m not, I don’t know if I can mention specific restaurants, but you know, I love eating a little Italy, man, you know, I love that place. And you know what?
Nestor Aparicio 22:12
He’s a savage guy. I’m gonna meet you. That’s fine.
Robby Incmikoski 22:18
I’ve been to a Michigan. I love a meat cheese, but sabbatino is my spot, man. I love going there, and I love a meat. I i Love fawn Street. I love Little Italy
Nestor Aparicio 22:27
and Baltimore. No idea how many bookmakers I’ve had at sabatinos, especially after 2am so trust me, dude, I’m a SAVs guy too. I love that city. It’s local. I love it. Except for a couple of crab cake joints, it didn’t pay me. I got to go, Robbie, I love you. We’re Baltimore positive. Stay with us. You.