{"id":711432,"date":"2026-05-29T00:06:15","date_gmt":"2026-05-29T00:06:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/mlb\/711432\/"},"modified":"2026-05-29T00:06:15","modified_gmt":"2026-05-29T00:06:15","slug":"how-much-are-giants-strike-zone-problems-related-to-mlbs-abs-system","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/mlb\/711432\/","title":{"rendered":"How much are Giants\u2019 strike-zone problems related to MLB\u2019s ABS system?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img alt=\"San Francisco Giants slugger Rafael Devers reacts to striking out during the fifth inning of a baseball game against the Sacramento Athletics Friday, May 15, 2026, in West Sacramento, Calif.\" loading=\"eager\" fetchpriority=\"high\"   style=\"aspect-ratio:3 \/ 2\" class=\"x100 y100 opc bgpc ofcv bgscv block bg-gray200 mnh0px fill\"\/><\/p>\n<p>San Francisco Giants slugger Rafael Devers reacts to striking out during the fifth inning of a baseball game against the Sacramento Athletics Friday, May 15, 2026, in West Sacramento, Calif.<\/p>\n<p>Sara Nevis\/Associated Press<\/p>\n<p>After one of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sfchronicle.com\/sports\/giants\/\" data-link=\"native\" class=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">San Francisco Giants<\/a>\u2019 recent losses to the Diamondbacks, manager <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sfchronicle.com\/tony-vitello\/\" data-link=\"native\" class=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Tony Vitello<\/a> noted that the team needs to be better at throwing strikes\u00a0\u2014 and hitting them.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s a pretty fundamental part of the game, and Vitello is correct: The Giants aren\u2019t among the better teams when it comes to anything strike-zone related, including the ABS challenge system. They\u2019re last in taking walks, by a large measure. They\u2019re climbing the ranks in walks issued, while the expertise the Giants showed with the ABS system this spring has diminished.<\/p>\n<p>The strike zone is slightly smaller with the ABS\u2019s new elongated oval, meaning walks are up overall across MLB, at 3.5 per nine innings compared to 3.2 last year. Yet the Giants have drawn just 119, or 2.1 per game; the next worst team, Toronto, has 161.<\/p>\n<p class=\"uiTextSmall f aic jcc\">Article continues below this ad<\/p>\n<p>The Giants are seeing the fourth-fewest pitches per plate appearance, 3.80, and seeing the most strikes (including pitches swung at out of the zone) at 65.9%. (The Yankees are last, seeing a strike just 61.2% of the time.) Teams will just keep throwing strikes until San Francisco starts doing more damage. Meanwhile, the Giants are helping their opponents by swinging at 33.1% of pitches outside the zone, the fourth worst mark in the majors.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sfchronicle.com\/sports\/giants\/article\/giants-swept-diamondbacks-again-late-drama-22279220.php\" data-link=\"native\" class=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><img alt=\"Giants shortstop\u00a0Willy Adames was tagged out on his slide to home plate in the eighth inning Wednesday\u00a0against the Arizona Diamondbacks at Oracle Park.\" loading=\"lazy\"   style=\"aspect-ratio:3 \/ 2\" class=\"x100 y100 opc bgpc ofcv bgscv block bg-gray200 mnh0px fill\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sfchronicle.com\/sports\/giants\/article\/sf-giants-outfielders-pay-homage-key-peele-bit-22273917.php\" data-link=\"native\" class=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><img alt=\"From left, Giants outfielders Casey Schmitt, Harrison Bader and Drew Gilbert perform an homage to a \u201cKey and Peele\u201d skit to celebrate their team\u2019s 10-3 win over the Chicago White Sox at Oracle Park on Saturday.\" loading=\"lazy\"   style=\"aspect-ratio:3 \/ 2\" class=\"x100 y100 opc bgpc ofcv bgscv block bg-gray200 mnh0px fill\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Could the ABS system itself be playing some role in this? Catcher Eric Haase theorized that teams with older players who haven\u2019t seen the ABS system before are at a slight disadvantage because they haven\u2019t learned the ABS zone, which is calibrated to a player\u2019s specific measurements, while younger players became accustomed to the system in the minors. The A\u2019s, Marlins and Royals, all younger squads, are among the better teams challenging when in the batter\u2019s box.<\/p>\n<p>San Francisco Chronicle Logo<\/p>\n<p>Make us a Preferred Source to get more of our news when you search.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/preferences\/source?q=sfchronicle.com\" data-link=\"native\" role=\"button\" aria-label=\"Add Preferred Source\" class=\"td300 cp f aic jcc disabled:cd wsn px24 y40px px16 py8 buttonSm fs13 xs:fs16 xs:buttonLg bg-primaryAccessible hover:o80 c-white disabled:bg-gray300 disabled:c-gray600 border bn tac br2\"><\/p>\n<p>Add Preferred Source<\/p>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think part of it is that,\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sfchronicle.com\/matt-chapman\/\" data-link=\"native\" class=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Matt Chapman<\/a> said of learning the ABS zone, \u201cand part of it is that we\u2019re not doing enough damage, so teams are coming after us. I think\u00a0 both are true.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"uiTextSmall f aic jcc\">Article continues below this ad<\/p>\n<p><img alt=\"Dodgers catcher Will Smith celebrates after Giants third baseman Matt Chapman struck out to end their game on Wednesday, May 13, 2026, in Los Angeles.\" loading=\"lazy\"   style=\"aspect-ratio:3 \/ 2\" class=\"x100 y100 opc bgpc ofcv bgscv block bg-gray200 mnh0px fill\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Dodgers catcher Will Smith celebrates after Giants third baseman Matt Chapman struck out to end their game on Wednesday, May 13, 2026, in Los Angeles.<\/p>\n<p>Mark J. Terrill\/Associated Press<\/p>\n<p>Assistant GM Paul Bien is the team official with the most ABS expertise, and he thinks there is something to having a lineup with fewer ABS-experienced hitters.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think the players\u2019 intuition there probably makes a lot of sense,\u201d he said. \u201cIt\u2019s obviously been an adjustment for everyone, and it seems like the more reps you have at it, the more natural it\u2019ll become. That\u2019s a good hypothesis.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The Giants\u2019 two best hitters when it comes to challenges, Drew Gilbert and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sfchronicle.com\/bryce-eldridge\/\" data-link=\"native\" class=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Bryce Eldridge<\/a>, are both familiar with the system from the minors. Eldridge, by virtue of his height (6-foot-7) has a larger zone than most, but he knows that ABS zone well\u00a0\u2014 for the most part.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe high strike could go either way, especially with me,\u201d Eldridge said, echoing the team\u2019s catchers, who believe the high strike is harder to gauge. \u201cIt\u2019s a little tricky sometimes.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"uiTextSmall f aic jcc\">Article continues below this ad<\/p>\n<p>Eldridge is 2-for-2 on challenges, but he was kicking himself for not asking for one in Tuesday night\u2019s loss to Arizona, a game in which <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sfchronicle.com\/rafael-devers\/\" data-link=\"native\" class=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Rafael Devers<\/a> challenged in a great spot to do so\u00a0\u2014 bases loaded, two outs\u00a0\u2014 on a very close pitch and lost, only to then strike out on another low strike that looked out of the zone.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou could probably tell from my face I definitely didn\u2019t think it was a strike, but obviously if I was 1,000% sure, I would have done it right there,\u201d Eldridge said of the 3-2 curveball that ended his at-bat. \u201cI kind of just froze in that moment, we had one left, it was the sixth inning, I didn\u2019t want to take the last one away before we got into the later innings.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The older players might have nearly an inch of difference at the top or bottom of their zones, an adjustment for sure.<\/p>\n<p><img alt=\"Umpire Chad Whitson announces that the Giants\u2019 Heliot Ramos, left, challenged a strike, which was overturned, during the ninth inning of a game between the Giants and the New York Yankees in San Francisco, Saturday, March 28, 2026.\" loading=\"lazy\"   style=\"aspect-ratio:3 \/ 2\" class=\"x100 y100 opc bgpc ofcv bgscv block bg-gray200 mnh0px fill\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Umpire Chad Whitson announces that the Giants\u2019 Heliot Ramos, left, challenged a strike, which was overturned, during the ninth inning of a game between the Giants and the New York Yankees in San Francisco, Saturday, March 28, 2026.<\/p>\n<p>Jeff Chiu\/AP<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSome guys have a pitch called a strike for the entirety of their careers and now it\u2019s not,\u201d catching coach Alex Burg said. \u201cAnd you see a lot of guys\u2019 heights have changed a ton. They were listed at 6-2, now they\u2019re measured at 6-foot. For that guy, his zone is more than half an inch smaller than it would have been.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"uiTextSmall f aic jcc\">Article continues below this ad<\/p>\n<p>The Giants are in the middle of the pack when it comes to hitters\u2019 challenges, with a 46% success rate. As with so much with this team after a bad start to the season, they believe they\u2019ll improve with time.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think it\u2019s something we can get better at, myself included,\u201d said Chapman, who\u2019s been successful in three of eight challenges. \u201cYou get emotional on one\u00a0\u2014 you challenge it, and it doesn\u2019t work out, then the next one is a ball that gets called a strike and I\u2019m like,\u2019 Damn, I should have challenged,\u2019 so I\u2019ll be thinking about that one and then challenge another one.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe ones that I\u2019ve gotten screwed on, nobody\u2019s been on base\u00a0\u2014 I want it to be a meaningful challenge.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>If the challenge fizzles, that can get into a player\u2019s head.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s this weight that that carries,\u201d hitting coach Hunter Mense said. \u201cIt\u2019s like if you get it wrong, you feel like you\u2019re letting people down. There\u2019s a real teammate aspect to it; you don\u2019t want to just start throwing challenges out there. You don\u2019t want to be selfish because some situations are much more high leverage than others.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"uiTextSmall f aic jcc\">Article continues below this ad<\/p>\n<p><img alt=\"Hitting coach Hunter Mense talks to the team during a Giants spring training practice at Scottsdale Stadium in Arizona, on Friday, Feb. 20, 2026.\" loading=\"lazy\"   style=\"aspect-ratio:3 \/ 2\" class=\"x100 y100 opc bgpc ofcv bgscv block bg-gray200 mnh0px fill\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Hitting coach Hunter Mense talks to the team during a Giants spring training practice at Scottsdale Stadium in Arizona, on Friday, Feb. 20, 2026.<\/p>\n<p>Carlos Avila Gonzalez\/S.F. Chronicle<\/p>\n<p>During the spring, the team\u2019s catchers and pitchers were successful at a 60% clip; that has dipped to 51% during the regular season, 25th best.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe toughest part of it is taking out emotion, and I think in spring training that\u2019s easy,\u201d catcher Daniel Susac said. \u201cA lot of times emotion comes into it, so the tough part is balancing out when is the right time and wrong time.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe top of the zone is a tough one. The bottom is so concrete, you can tell where it is, but the top is so just kind of hard to tell with each hitter. The bottom is pretty true, left and right is pretty true and the top really depends on the day.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>With the system based on individual player measurements, that shouldn\u2019t be the case, and Berg has the Giants\u2019 catchers\u00a0\u2014 Susac, Haase and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sfchronicle.com\/jesus-rodriguez\/\" data-link=\"native\" class=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Jesus Rodriguez<\/a>\u00a0\u2014 working with the TrackMan radar technology to help make the ABS strike zone feel like second nature.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou\u2019re trying to figure out, \u2018What is 27% of 5-foot-10? \u2019 or \u2018What is 53.5% of 6-foot-4? \u2019\u201d Berg said of how the bottom and top of the zone is measured for each batter. \u201cThat is always going to be a struggle until these guys get used to the system. It\u2019s a work in progress, you do get a little gun shy.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cCatchers have so many things going on, it\u2019s \u2018Catch this pitch as well as I can, what\u2019s the next pitch, what have I thrown this guy before? \u2019 The challenges are a little lower on the totem pole. There\u2019s some strategy involved, and our guys are getting much better at it; we tell them, \u2018Do be aggressive if you\u2019re in a spot you know that\u2019s going to change an at-bat\u00a0\u2014 or maybe even change the complexion of a game.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img alt=\"San Francisco Giants outfielder Harrison Bader flips his bat after striking out during the ninth inning of a game against the Sacramento Athletics on Saturday, May 16, 2026, in West Sacramento, Calif.\" loading=\"lazy\"   style=\"aspect-ratio:2 \/ 3\" class=\"x100 y100 opc bgpc ofcv bgscv block bg-gray200 mnh0px fill\"\/><\/p>\n<p>San Francisco Giants outfielder Harrison Bader flips his bat after striking out during the ninth inning of a game against the Sacramento Athletics on Saturday, May 16, 2026, in West Sacramento, Calif.<\/p>\n<p>Sara Nevis\/Associated Press<\/p>\n<p>Vitello likes to look at the challenge system as a nice opportunity, nothing to get too worked up over if it doesn\u2019t work out.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s a bonus if it goes your way,\u201d he said. \u201cIf not, you\u2019ve got to be prepared to deal with the circumstances, move on to the next thing\u00a0 and not let it affect the next pitch or the rest of your at-bat.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>For those in the stands, the ABS system has provided some extra drama and highlighted the fact that the umpires do a very good job, as only a handful of calls in a game are reversed.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think it\u2019s been a pretty well-done system,\u201d Bien said. \u201cIt\u2019s found a nice sweet spot of being entertaining to watch while also getting more calls correct. We\u2019re all trying to adapt to how to best utilize it, but at the same time I think it\u2019s been a positive from a gameplay experience.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cFrom a fan\u2019s perspective, it\u2019s one of the most exciting things,\u201d Mense said. \u201cEven when it\u2019s in a low-leverage situation, it grabs your attention.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"San Francisco Giants slugger Rafael Devers reacts to striking out during the fifth inning of a baseball game&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":711433,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2408],"tags":[5,162,379,4,863,378,66,4343,4340,4344,4341,4342,185,1870],"class_list":["post-711432","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-san-francisco-giants","tag-baseball","tag-giants","tag-matt-chapman","tag-mlb","tag-rafael-devers","tag-san-francisco","tag-san-francisco-giants","tag-sanfrancisco","tag-sanfranciscogiants","tag-sf","tag-sf-giants","tag-sfgiants","tag-sports","tag-tony-vitello"],"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/channels.im\/@mlb\/116654950526141350","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/mlb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/711432","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/mlb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/mlb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/mlb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/mlb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=711432"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/mlb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/711432\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/mlb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/711433"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/mlb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=711432"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/mlb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=711432"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/mlb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=711432"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}