The Boston Celtics may not be in the 2025 NBA Finals, but both teams that are have ties to Massachusetts through players, coaches, and executives. What can the Indiana PacersOklahoma City Thunder matchup on the league’s biggest stage tell us about the future of the Celtics, what can Boston steal from these teams to get back to the finals in the near-term future, and what have we been hearing about their trade plans for this offseason?

On this episode of “Havlicek Stole the Pod,” host and Celtics Wire editor Justin Quinn sat down with OKC Thunder Wire editor Clemente Almanza to talk all things OKC-Pacers in the finals, the ties to the Celtics and the greater Boston area, and what the future holds for both the Cs and the Thunder.

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They also get up to speed on the news we are hearing around the Celtics regarding potential offseason moves and overseas signing targets, so be sure to tune in.

This article originally appeared on Celtics Wire: What the Celtics can crib from OKC to get back to the finals with Clemente Almanza