{"id":172994,"date":"2025-07-15T20:03:25","date_gmt":"2025-07-15T20:03:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nba\/172994\/"},"modified":"2025-07-15T20:03:25","modified_gmt":"2025-07-15T20:03:25","slug":"remembering-the-2004-pistons-pacers-brawl","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nba\/172994\/","title":{"rendered":"Remembering the 2004 Pistons-Pacers brawl"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">DETROIT \u2013 The Detroit Pistons were getting blown out by their division rivals, the Indiana Pacers. It was, for all intents and purposes, a meaningless November game in the NBA.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">With under a minute left, and the Pistons, down by 15, the game was all but over.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">Then Ben Wallace took a hard foul from reigning Defensive Player of the Year Ron Artest near the hoop, with about 45 seconds left. The foul didn&#8217;t seem that hard, but Wallace, clearly frustrated with the entire game, shoved Artest across the court. What happened next would change the NBA forever.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">The ordeal, known as the \u201cMalice at the Palace,\u201d is 17 years old, having taken place on Nov. 19, 2004.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">After Wallace shoved Artest, both team benches emptied to control the feud. The fight seemed over after just a few moments, but then Pistons fan John Green threw a beer at Artest, who was laying on the scorers table.<\/p>\n<p>No description found<\/p>\n<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">That&#8217;s when several players crossed the forbidden line between the court and the stands.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">Artest charged the crowd, igniting an all-out brawl at the Palace. Indiana Pacers players Stephen Jackson and Jermaine O&#8217;Neal rushed to help Artest, but ended up fighting other fans, while Pistons players like Rasheed Wallace and former Piston Rick Mahorn tried desperately to break up the brawl.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">I&#8217;ll never forget the look on Artest&#8217;s face that night. He was scary. He was walking around punching anything in his way. Coaches and players were trying to hold him back, but couldn&#8217;t. It felt like nothing could control him. I remember a police officer threatening to pepper spray Artest, but was talked out of it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">Complete chaos.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">The brawl did not end in the stands, as players and fans continued the brawl on the court.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">Artest returned to the court and was confronted by two fans. Artest punched one fan. Jermaine O&#8217;Neal intervened by punching the other fan in the jaw. It seemed like O&#8217;Neal came out of nowhere.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">Pistons coach Larry Brown tried to address the Palace, but his microphone didn&#8217;t work. He slammed it on the scorers table in disgust. Palace announcer Mason repeatedly asked fans to leave in a futile attempt to end the madness. Fans booed the players as they were escorted off the court by police, being pelted by beverages and even a folding chair.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">The entire episode lasted less than 10 minutes, but it felt like the brawl filled the entire evening. The ordeal felt like a dream. Could this really be happening in the NBA, on national television?<\/p>\n<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">In the locker room, Artest asked Jackson whether he thought the players would get in trouble. Jackson responded, &#8220;We&#8217;ll be lucky if we have a freaking job,&#8221; leading Jackson to conclude Artest &#8220;wasn&#8217;t in his right mind to ask that question.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">In the end, nine spectators were injured, two were taken to the hospital. Artest was suspended for 86 games without pay, Jackson for 30 games, and O&#8217;Neal for 15 games. Ben Wallace was suspended six games.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">The brawl was the demise of the Indiana Pacers. It decimated their roster, and killed their playoff chances.<\/p>\n<p>No description found<\/p>\n<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">THE AFTERMATH<\/p>\n<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">Media coverage over the next couple of weeks asked the obvious question: Who was to blame?<\/p>\n<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">ESPN&#8217;s John Saunders infamously declared Pistons fans to be &#8220;a bunch of punks.&#8221; Stephen A. Smith suggested some of the fans be arrested. An ESPN poll taken at the time showed that 46 percent believed fans were to blame for the brawl.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">The NBA took immediate security measures to make sure nothing like the &#8220;Malice&#8221; ever happened again. On Dec. 8, 2004, five Pacers players and five fans were charged with assault and battery. All of the fans involved were banned from the Palace of Auburn Hills.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dist__Box-sc-1fnzlkn-0 dist__TextBase-sc-1fnzlkn-3 bYFsJw cuqaEv article-text\">That night will likely be talked about for as long as the NBA exists.<\/p>\n<p>Copyright 2018 by WDIV ClickOnDetroit &#8211; All rights reserved.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"DETROIT \u2013 The Detroit Pistons were getting blown out by their division rivals, the Indiana Pacers. 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