{"id":44729,"date":"2025-05-20T06:47:11","date_gmt":"2025-05-20T06:47:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nba\/44729\/"},"modified":"2025-05-20T06:47:11","modified_gmt":"2025-05-20T06:47:11","slug":"nothing-good-is-gonna-come-out-of-you-asking-that-scottie-pippen-and-charles-oakley-on-why-most-90s-players-disliked-isiah-thomas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nba\/44729\/","title":{"rendered":"“Nothing good is gonna come out of you asking that” – Scottie Pippen and Charles Oakley on why most 90s players disliked Isiah Thomas"},"content":{"rendered":"

For some, there was nothing to like about the late 1980s Detroit Pistons<\/a>.<\/p>\n

By the time they were clawing their way to back-to-back NBA championships in 1989 and 1990, they had already cemented a reputation that was less admired and more endured.<\/p>\n

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The air around their leader \u2014 Isiah Thomas<\/a> \u2014 turned admiration into animosity across locker rooms in the league. He is widely recognized as one of the best point guards in history. Yet somehow, he stood at the center of a long-standing cold war with several of the biggest stars of that era.<\/p>\n

Pippen’s dislike of Thomas<\/p>\n

His talent was undeniable. But for a player so gifted, so clutch, so central to one of the fiercest teams of the era, the wall of dislike from other legends that surrounded him has never truly come down.<\/p>\n

One of those was Scottie Pippen<\/a>.<\/p>\n

“I grew up that if I don’t have nothing good to say, I don’t say nothing,” Pippen said. “Nothing good is gonna come out of you asking that \u2026 I don’t respect him, so I don’t have anything good to say about this guy.”<\/p>\n

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Pippen’s discontent with Thomas had simmered since their playing days \u2014 most notably during the heated Chicago-Detroit rivalry that defined Eastern Conference basketball in the late ’80s and early ’90s.<\/p>\n

Chicago was repeatedly bullied out of the playoffs by Detroit until 1991, when the Bulls finally broke through with a sweep in the Eastern Conference finals.<\/p>\n

It was during that series that the Pistons, led by Thomas, famously walked off the court without shaking hands, a gesture that only deepened the grudge. For players like Pippen, that moment was an unsportsmanlike conduct, a lack of grace, a refusal to acknowledge being outplayed. Pippen lost any form of respect he had towards Thomas.<\/p>\n

Thomas, as the face of that Pistons team, became the embodiment of the cold shoulder. Even when the league moved forward, the bitterness remained frozen in place.<\/p>\n

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Pippen’s teammate, Michael Jordan, and his dislike of Thomas is well documented<\/a> \u2014 so much so that many believed his influence kept Thomas off the 1992 Olympic Dream Team.<\/p>\n

Related: Walt Frazier admits NBA players were afraid to lift weights back in the day: “Basketball players thought it would affect their shot”<\/a><\/p>\n

Holding grudge<\/p>\n

Charles Oakley, one of the most respected enforcers of the ’90s, was known for his physical dominance and willingness to protect teammates at all costs. He stood as a moral compass in locker rooms across the league. To him, Thomas was not the best of guys to have close.<\/p>\n

“He’s a great point guard, and I think he should have been on the Dream Team and all that,” Oakley said. “But there’s just something about him, I can’t trust him.”<\/p>\n

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That statement cuts to the core of the Thomas dilemma. Trust. For all his accolades and court brilliance, Thomas perhaps never truly earned the trust of some of his peers. He scored over 18,000 career points and led his franchise through its golden era. But that never translated into warmth from fellow stars.<\/p>\n

The exclusion from the Dream Team brought that to light. That roster \u2014 Pippen, Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird<\/a>, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone, John Stockton \u2014 was more than a collection of stars. It was a brotherhood. And though Thomas statistically deserved a spot, the chemistry committee seemed unanimous in their silent veto.<\/p>\n

Thomas was often described as too calculating, too political in the way he navigated the NBA world. He had public fallouts not just with Jordan and Pippen, but with Johnson as well \u2014 who remains a very close friend to the Pistons legend.<\/p>\n

Related: “Jordan? They saying you the best, beat your a**. Magic and Kareem? Beat you. Bird and McHale? Beat you” – Isiah Thomas says he won the hardest championships ever<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"For some, there was nothing to like about the late 1980s Detroit Pistons. By the time they were…\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":44730,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3773],"tags":[7,920,632,919,296,188,3860,2036,12290,6,621,297],"class_list":{"0":"post-44729","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-detroit-pistons","8":"tag-basketball","9":"tag-bulls","10":"tag-charles-oakley","11":"tag-chicago","12":"tag-detroit","13":"tag-detroit-pistons","14":"tag-detroitpistons","15":"tag-isiah-thomas","16":"tag-jordan-and-pippen","17":"tag-nba","18":"tag-pippen","19":"tag-pistons"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/channels.im\/@nba\/114538823399126875","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nba\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44729","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nba\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nba\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nba\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nba\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=44729"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nba\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44729\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nba\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/44730"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nba\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=44729"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nba\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=44729"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nba\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=44729"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}