There is no one on earth better equipped to tell the story of the Houston Oilers becoming the Tennessee Titans than NFL historian and five-decade Houston Chronicle reporter John McClain, who always makes time to talk football and Hall of Fame worthiness with us. The General provides a full preview and review of how those LuvYaBlue uniforms wound up on Cam Ward on Sunday. Oh, and why the Texans stink so far…

The discussion reviewed the Titans’ Oilers-inspired uniforms, the struggles of Tennessee and Houston, Ravens concerns, Hall of Fame voting changes, and possible baseball labor tensions.

Uniform Dispute

John said the Columbia Blue uniforms belong to the Titans, though Houston fans and Texans ownership object to their use.

The Titans’ marketing efforts and former-player reunions made the throwback merchandise highly popular.

Both teams were described as likely AFC South bottom-feeders, with the uniform rivalry overshadowing limited on-field success.

Team Assessment

John predicted a decisive Ravens win over Tennessee, citing Cam Ward’s poor decisions and the Titans’ weak offense.

Houston’s 0–3 start was attributed primarily to another poor offensive line, not C.J. Stroud.

The Ravens’ injuries and aging veterans remain concerns, while the AFC North remains dependent on quarterback health.

Hall Of Fame

John criticized recent Pro Football Hall of Fame process changes, including fewer voters, reduced presentations, and eliminating a separate seniors committee.

He said the changes weaken regional representation and diminish advocates’ investment in candidates.

Baseball’s salary-cap dispute could contribute to a future lockout, with a possible resolution date discussed but not confirmed.

Appear at Pizza Johns in Essex on Friday and give away Ravens scratch-offs from the Maryland Lottery. (@Nestor Aparicio)

Titans And Oilers Identity

Debate over the Titans wearing Columbia Blue Oilers throwbacks.

Marketing, ownership history, and fan demand have sustained the uniforms.

The Titans and Texans are currently competing near the bottom of the AFC South.

Titans And Texans Outlook

Tennessee was characterized as the NFL’s weakest team, with major quarterback and offensive concerns.

Houston’s recurring offensive-line failures were identified as the main reason for its poor start.

D’Amico Ryans and Nick Caserio face intense criticism, but Ryans was not viewed as immediately endangered.

Ravens And AFC North

Baltimore’s offensive-line injuries and veteran roster raised questions about late-season durability.

The division was framed as a race among Baltimore and Cincinnati, with Pittsburgh and Cleveland also discussed.

Deshaun Watson’s recent improvement under Todd Monken was acknowledged, though its sustainability remains uncertain.

Hall Of Fame And Baseball

John discussed his departure after 33 years on the Pro Football Hall of Fame selection committee.

He objected to changes affecting seniors, voting representation, and candidate presentations.

John expects significant labor conflict in baseball related to salary-cap negotiations.

Nestor Aparicio 0:01
Welcome home. We are WNST AM 1570 Towson, Baltimore. It’s Baltimore positive. We got a big week ahead here, football as well as baseball. No Orioles, but the rest of us are all watching baseball. Luke will be around Owings Mills. I will be on Friday at Pizza Johns in Essex, giving away the Ravens scratch-offs from the Maryland Lotter, also our friends at GBMC and Farnham and Derma, putting us out on the road for the Crab Cake tour this week. We have a new sponsor at Rosedale Bank celebrating our 28th anniversary in our Musik Memory Bank. As I count them down from, let’s see, AC/DC on Tuesday night, and John Mayer this week, and Kiss last week, and more Paul Rogers and different things coming next week. This guy, um, he hails from from Texas and Waco and all things Houston. He is a legend in Houston, Texas, for covering the Houston Allers and now the Houston Texans for many years. But when he always went up to Tennessee, he sort of knew a lot about the Adams family and has held on to all things, not just Dan Pastorini, but John Mcclane joins us, the the great general and former, I should say, longtime NFL and Pro Football Hall of Fame voter. I’ll get to that in a minute. But you know, I thought of you in the middle of the week because every time I see the Titans wearing these Oilers jerseys, I think I got to get Mcclain on, and I know you’re going to take the other side of that. And a lot of people in Nashville have. I still call it icky. I’ll call it icky on not icky woods on Sunday when they come in. You know, I can’t even wear my Derrick Henry Oilers jersey properly this week because it looks like I’m rooting for the wrong team, John.

John McClain 1:31
First of all, the the Titans and the Texans have never been good for the first. At the same time, they’ve never played for anything unlike the Astros and the Rangers, who have a bitter, heated rivalry because they played to go to the World Series, and they they’ve had big games and they play a lot, of course. But the biggest thing going between these two franchises is the uniforms, the colors. People hear it drives them crazy that the Titans have Columbia blue, but it belongs to the Titans. It doesn’t belong to Houston, but uniform wars we call it. And Hannah McNair, the wife of Texans owner Cal McNair, and very active in the franchise. She’s taken some digs at the colors, and they have that blue. They call it H Town Blue, not Columbia Blue. But right now, Nestor, it’s strange, and they play next week. And I fully expect it to be the ’04 Texans against the ’04 Titans, battling for last place in the AFC South. And the thing about those uniforms is, they wore them. The Titans wore them the two of the previous three years, and the Texans beat them both times. So they didn’t wear them last year, and they’re not going to wear them this year.

Nestor Aparicio 2:49
Well, as it should be. I. It is a funny little war that’s 30 years old. Like I, there was a war here with the Colts in the in in Indianapolis forever and ever. I sort of buried it 15 years ago. I don’t know when it gets buried because when that team comes in here on Sunday and plays, they look like the Houston Oilers to me, and and purposefully, right? Like the Adams, like they’ve leaned into this hardcore as the Nashville people have, and I guess there is the point where it was Tennessee Oilers for five minutes, and but I I would have thought they would be more proud of Titans and just want to run away from the Oilers, not embrace it. And I guess there’s so much marketing involved in it. And then there’s Amy Adams who grew up Oilers, and it’s her football team. She can do what she wants. I mean, I I do look at it that way, but I do think it’s a little icky and weird.

John McClain 3:35
You’re absolutely right about the marketing, because when they first started putting Columbia Blue in their gift shop at their stadium. Fans were like, ah, and then they started. Amy Adams Drunk would have all the reunions and bring in all these former players, have a weekend. Fans could mingle with them. Next thing you know, the stuff was flying off the shelves. So they would get it and they would put it in all the sports places around town, it was flying off the shelves. Fans couldn’t get enough of it. There is a warehouse south of Nashville. It’s full of Tennessee Oilers stuff because they were the Tennessee Oilers for two years in ’97 and ’98 before they moved into their new stadium, new facility, and changed everything. Became the Titans, but Bud Adams always wanted some Colombian blue, which is light blue, in the uniforms, and then they went full throwback, and I like it. People here get mad at me because I say I love those uniforms and the colors when they were here, and they can’t wear them here because they don’t belong to the Texans. They belong to the Titans, so if the only time I’m going to get to see Columbia Blue is when the Titans wear it, I like it because always like the colors. University of Houston has worn it, Rice has worn it, high schools here. There’s the Pearland Oilers, a suburb that’s worn Columbia blue forever. And it’s-I don’t think it’ll ever die. People won’t get over it, but until the people who are around then are dead, but it would be nice, Nestor, if if the Titans and the Texans could play for something besides last place in the AFC South, because the Texans have stunk it up such in such an alarming fashion, only the Chargers are a bigger surprise to me.

Nestor Aparicio 5:26
Well, I’ll talk Texans with you in a minute, but let’s stay on Titans for a minute because we have them this week. Ah, for for the franchise, Vrabel out the quarterback situation they’ve had there. They might be the worst team in the NFL. I I don’t think. I mean, I’m looking at it and saying they’re coming in this week as an 11 and a half point dog. Ravens are have this strange coming back from Rio, and they probably could have should have water lost to the Cowboys. You know, four plays from the one yard line, and the Cowboys somehow didn’t win. They they’re the ultimate Charlie Brown. Where are you three weeks into this thing for the Ravens and the Titans this week? Because the Ravens are trying to feel themselves with a new coach have some injury issues, offensive line issues. The Titans don’t feel like they’re going to put up much of a fight this week, though. The

John McClain 6:06
Ravens are going to stomp them. I would take the 12, and I tell you what, they have a new coach, Robert Sala. The general manager, Mike Begonzi, was here last year when they drafted Cam Ward first overall, but he he didn’t have the final say. It was a guy Chad Brinker, and he’s out now. So you have a head coach and a GM who did not draft that quarterback. Cam Ward has not shown any improvement. They’ve had three guys coaching him since that since he got there, and that can’t help him. And he’s a really good athlete. He can throw the ball, but he makes these bone-headed decisions, and he had a chance to beat the Giants at the end of the game. They had two timeouts left, and instead of throwing the ball away, tried to throw it for a touchdown into coverage, interception, game over. Fans there, media just eviscerating the franchise. Cam Ward, I told them on my show that I do weekly there. The start of the season, if you could double your victory total and win six games, everybody should be turning somersaults. And right now, they might be in position to get that first overall pick because it doesn’t look like it’s going to be the Browns. The Jets might be a little better than we thought. Cardinals might be a little better, but right now to me, Nestor, the Titans are the worst team in the NFL. Their offense is just not good. The defense is good. Defense played really well against the Giants, but it’s hard to judge the Giants because Jameis Winston is not very good as the starter and plays the Jackson Dart, or they wouldn’t have traded for J.J. McCarthy. But I think the Ravens are going to kill him. They’ll shut down Cam Ward. They’ll score a lot, and this game will be over early.

Nestor Aparicio 7:47
I know what a baseball fan you are, and we could fight about that, and you know payrolls and all that. But this league has been level set for for money for a long, long time. So the fact that we’re three weeks into this and we can already identify six to eight to 10 teams that just can’t. We just know they can’t. They don’t have the quarterback. They don’t have the players. It really is amazing in a billion-dollar industry where it’s all set for everybody to go eight and eight or eight and nine or nine and eight or whatever. That teams could be this bad for this long, right? And the Titans definitely feel like that. Like the fact that we talk about their uniforms because there’s nothing to talk about on the field in recent years at all, and all of the dregs you just mentioned. But I don’t think of the Texans as being that way for sure. And what has gone on there? I mean, that’s your primary beat, John.

John McClain 8:34
Let me point out something about the Titans. When Mike Graybel went to the Super Bowl last year, everybody killed Amy Adams Strunk for firing him, and but I remember telling my guys on my station, I remember you guys wanted him fired. He was had two consecutive losing seasons. People were tired of him. They wanted him out. Now of a sudden revision, his history is oh my God, what did we do with Mike Vrabel? And so the Titans are in the position they’re in because they had a string of number one picks under Mike Vrabel and John Robinson, the GM that were bad, and they had like three

Nestor Aparicio 9:13
years where they don’t have a player on the team, right? Like 20 123, really

John McClain 9:17
terrible starting at the top, and then they let Derrick Henry go. Didn’t try to re-sign him. Big mistake. And then A.J. Brown, they didn’t want to re-sign him. The general manager at the time, John Robinson, trained in Philadelphia. Mike Grable went ballistic, and the guy they drafted to take his place was another humongous first-round bus. So there’s a reason that the Titans are so bad, the GM now, Mike Beganzi, has been in charge one off season, so we don’t know if they’re any good or not, or if they’re going to be headed in the right direction. But I tell you what, the best surprise in the NFL is a head coach from a family that I know very well. Clint Kubiak with the Raiders, three and zero, and I told them because I do a weekly show in Las Vegas. If you could double your win total and win sixes, Mark Davis should be turning somersaults down Las Vegas Boulevard, and I think they’re going to come down back down to earth, especially against the Chiefs this week. But Clint Kubiak is off to a tremendous start, and it just shows if you get a coach who knows what he’s doing and he’s got a little talent, and that he can make a big improvement. That’s what’s happened with the Raiders and the Texans right now. It’s weird. In D’Amico Ryan’s, this is fourth year. It’s the second year in a row they’ve started with three losses. In 18, they started with three losses. Both times, they bounced back and made the playoffs and won a playoff game. This year feels different. Excuse me, because D’Amico Ryan’s is getting killed by the fans and the media. So is Nick Casario, the GM, the offensive coordinator Nick Kaye in his second year is getting eviscerated because they have the same problems in the offensive line. C.J. Stroud’s not the issue. A lot of national people like Stroud, and I’m like, are you not paying attention? Stroud’s played pretty darn well, and without either of his starting wide receivers, because they put together another offensive line that is terrible. Can’t run block, can’t move anybody off the line of scrimmage, and it’s a big deal here, Nestor, because it’s a perennial problem. Matter no matter who they bring in, whether it’s high draft choices, free agents, or trades, their offensive line’s awful, and it is again, and that is the main reason this franchise is 03. Last year when they were 03, they played the Titans and they turned it around, ended up winning going 12 and five, and didn’t want a playoff game. And so this year though they play the Cowboys here, a Cowboy team that should be angry big time because they gave away that game with some really botched coaching and playing, and of course great playing by the Ravens. But they’re going to lose to the Cowboys here, boy. That is a big deal because they only play every four years. People here hate the Cowboy fans who are all over Houston and they hate the Cowboys, and D’Amico’s not going to get fired. I mean, he’s been in the playoffs his first three years and won a playoff game. He and Stroud, the last time that happened was with with a coach and a quarterback getting to the divisional round in their first three seasons was John Harbaugh and Joe Flacco, so he’s not going to get fired. But the fact is, for whatever reason, they cannot build a decent, even a decent offensive line, and people here are livid.

Nestor Aparicio 12:54
John Mcclane, the man, the myth, the legend. He is a longtime Hall of Fame voter and Houston legend at the Houston Chronicle. You can find him out at McLean on NFL. He’s very easy to find, covering all the league, but certainly involved in Tennessee and Houston. And now the the Kubiak thing in Vegas. I always wanted to. I saw you as Vegas, John. I figured you’d get there. Anything on the Ravens? I mean, we talk about offensive lines being a problem in Houston. Ronnie Stanley holding the clipboard right now, Vengo Yuane snapping as a third string center. They don’t know what the guard situation is. Simpson hasn’t been very good at all, and you already pointed out they should be one and two. You know, the the Dallas game was the Ravens aren’t as good as advertised yet, and they’ve been advertised as being pretty good. But I think they need to get their parts together. And the thing that I talked about a lot in the off season and all summer long, and I may have talked to to you about it a month and a half ago when you did the show, was just Colleagues Campbell, Ronnie Stanley, Marlon Humphrey, Roquan Smith down the line, Mark Andrews, all over 30, and I thought that’s an interesting thing to have a young coach, a quarterback completely in his prime. Derrick Henry’s over third. Just all of these older players, and I thought, how’s that going to play in December and January? Good from their head up because you want those veteran players, but are they still going to be able to do this? Marlon Humphrey, I have questions about Ronnie Stanley with the toe. I have questions about, and it’s week four, and I don’t say the Ravens are teetering. They have an easy schedule the next couple of weeks. They’re going to be okay, but I don’t know if they’re going to be as good as like what I’m seeing with Kansas City right now, or some of the other teams in the conference.

John McClain 14:31
Well, you know, from covering the league so long, it’s not really what you do early in September and October. It’s what you do after that, when injuries really start to affect every team and which players are healthy, beginning with your quarterback and the way the Ravens miss the playoffs last year was heartbreaking for the fans, and I was so happy to see the kid kick the field goal because I hate the Cowboys, and I love it when the Cowboys screw up and if they kick, it amazes me. And the Texans had to. Same thing happened. The kickers should have kicked the ball where they had to use some clock. Neither one did. Start on 35 yard line. Ravens, of course, used their six-second play, and I was one of the things I like to do, Nestor, is go online and listen to the home and visiting broadcast, and we all got to hear the Portuguese broadcast. But I was listening to Brad Sham of the Cowboys, and they were like, “He couldn’t have gotten that timeout, could he? And they went to their sideline reporter, and she said, “I was looking at the clock, and I was looking at Lamar Jackson. And yes, they called timeout with one second left, and they’re like, “Oh, and that made it even better because I knew the Cowboys were devastated. Mainly, I don’t have anything against the Cowboys. It’s all their fans down here that I don’t like. But they’re like humidity, traffic, and mosquitoes. You just learn to live with them. And I, when I see the Ravens, I see, you know, last year I thought this year Steelers weren’t going to be any good. Browns were going to be by far the worst team in the division. It would come down to Baltimore and Cincinnati and the team that could keep its quarterback healthy, and we’re a long way from knowing that. And I saw Cincinnati come in here and their defense, led by Dexter Lawrence, totally dominate, humiliate the Texans’ interior offensive line. It was embarrassing. He trash talked them. They didn’t do anything about it, and the game was within a touchdown till right at the end. So I’m thinking, well, boy, Cincinnati is going to beat the Steelers, and then the Steelers turn around and beat Cincinnati. And so I still don’t think Aaron Rodgers is going to lead the Steelers to the division again, not with Burrow Jackson staying healthy. And I think it’s now with the Browns winning two games, and I don’t think they can sustain it. And I think it would be wouldn’t it be funny if say say Deshaun Watson stayed healthy, and he helped him go 10 and seven and make the playoffs in the last year of his contract, and he wants a raise, so boy will they give him 231 million guarantee. So they got a tough situation there with Watson, but I’m told Todd Monken loves him, and it’s very clear. I mean,

Nestor Aparicio 17:12
Luke and I talked about that this week. Like they, Monken has fallen in love with his skill set and has coached him up. He looks like Deshaun Watson again. He he looks like a starting NFL quarterback. Forget all the off field that you had to cover down in Houston, but he does look like he belongs in the league and playing for sure.

John McClain 17:29
I never thought he would look that way again because last time was 2000. Think about that 2000. He was great, and he hadn’t done squad since. And then all you mean 2020?

Nestor Aparicio 17:40
You mean 2020?

John McClain 17:40
Yeah, I mean 26

Nestor Aparicio 17:42
years.

John McClain 17:42
Yeah, six years. He was fabulous that year, and then he started having all the problems, and now for him to win these last two and to win the game at home, where the fans cheered him as he left the field. It’s a it’s

Nestor Aparicio 17:56
stunning. It really is stunning for me.

John McClain 17:58
Stunning. That’s a great way to put it. But can they sustain it? I don’t think they can. Maybe you disagree with me. I still think it’s a two-team race. I have a problem taking Aaron Rodgers seriously. I think he’ll run out of gas and be like last year, throwing a lot of short passes at the end of the season. But I still think it’s a two-team race. And I tell you what, after watching that end of that Cowboy Ravens game, I’m guessing the Ravens will never win a game in that fashion again.

Nestor Aparicio 18:30
John Mcclane is here. He is from Houston, Texas. He is a longtime Hall of Fame voter. So you’re wearing your Canton hat there. You know, I I would say if there’s a Hall of Fame vote and people like you aren’t involved in it, I will ask questions.

John McClain 18:46
Well, I’ll tell you, I wear this because I’m in the Hall of Fame. I’ve been wearing since I went in in ’06. I have worn these these caps, which I have a bunch of a lot because I take so much pride in it. And I was on the selection committee for 33 years, and I don’t like any of the changes that have been made. And when they told me that I was no longer on it, I was one of the 25 people cut. It didn’t bother me. You know, it’s a blow to your ego, but the change that has have come, engineered by the president Jim Porter, that I didn’t like. And number one, I didn’t like getting rid of seniors committee and throwing the seniors in with all the modern era candidates, which means Roger Craig may be the last senior to ever go into the Hall of Fame. I didn’t like the changes they made three years ago. Deion Sanders raised Kane and said, “There’s we put too many in there, and that there should be an upper tier for the best of the best. Well, my response is, if we considered great cornerbacks had to tackle, he wouldn’t be in the upper tier. But they made changes, swore it had nothing to do with him, and of course it did. So they made it. They changed the rules, the bylaws. The board did, made it harder. In, and so then, last year they say it had nothing to do with Bell Belichick, and we’re like, yeah, right. And so we knew it was coming. We’d had a Zoom call in which they told us what they were going to do, and what I didn’t like besides not having seniors, I’ve represented Houston and the Oilers and the Texans for 33 years, and I’ve done it with great pride. It’s been an incredible honor. I I have presented seven. Let’s see, six Oilers that got in the Hall of Fame. Chuck Halley of the Cowboys as a senior. I was on the seniors committee, and then Andre Johnson, the first Texan. And my goal was to stay around for J.J. Watt, see him present him see him get in and then I was going to retire up to 35 years but what doesn’t need me getting the Hall of Fame but nobody represents a city anymore there’s a bunch of cities like New England doesn’t have anybody Houston Miami did they throw Garceau

Nestor Aparicio 20:56
out too I don’t even know

John McClain 20:57
Scott’s still on there and so

Nestor Aparicio 21:00
Scott Carson’s voting on Hall of Fame, and you’re not.

John McClain 21:03
Yeah, that’s insane. That’s insane,

Nestor Aparicio 21:06
and I like Scott, and it’s not that. Look, my name’s Aparicio. Check here at Baseball Hall of Fame and all that. I’ve been denouncing that forever. Well, I mean, I’ve been denouncing the Baseball Hall of Fame forever because it’s just not. It’s not a real thing. There’s no Pete Rose. There’s no there’s no Barry Bonds. But they’re going to put big pop. They’re going to put some steroids guys in. But not like that’s baseball. And I know how much you love baseball. You’ve been watching it all day. But like I I am the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame doesn’t have sticks. They they just you know Jan Wenner doesn’t like certain bands. They sold a billion tickets and have been doing. Like I don’t get this. I mean, it really has become a debutante popularity thing across all of these Hall of Fames. Let

John McClain 21:51
me tell you this about Scott. I’ve watched Scott make presentations and talk about possibility, and I think he’s done a great job. He does his homework. He comes in prepared, and I’m happy that he stayed. And that, but I don’t like the fact that that they changed it where there’s no presentations. What they’re going to do is say a JJ Watt comes up, and so they’ll have somebody not on the selection committee. There’s 25, three alternates. Only 25 will vote every year, so they’ve cut the votes in half, and and somebody will read stats, and and tributes for two minutes, and then they’ll throw it open to the floor. Where in the past we would make a five-minute presentation, with a clock up there, and when we finished, then they would throw it open to the floor. And I don’t like that you won’t have a person making a presentation. I always took great pride in that. All of you

Nestor Aparicio 22:50
did. I mean, I know so many of everybody did,

John McClain 22:53
because it light went into it. And and right now, if I were on this committee right now and I did not have somebody to present. I’m not going to work as hard on all the finalists as I would a my guy, and so that’s just common common sense. So I I wish everybody that’s still on the committee the best of luck. I thank the Hall of Fame. I did a couple of tweets about it, thanking them for the 33 years. I’ve been to the Hall of Fame probably 40 or 50 times and will continue to go, but not being part of the committee with all these changes, it does not bother me. They got rid of guys like Rick Gosling. Rick was a champion for the seniors, and to me, the best guy on the committee, Clark Judge. Clark Judge was tremendous, made great presentations when it was when he was. These are people who know the history

Nestor Aparicio 23:44
of the league. All of you who have covered the league, I count me as disgusted, and I’ll let you drop the mic on whatever you. I mean, you’ve been very magnanimous as you are, but I’m disgusted by it as as as somebody on the inside who’s now on the outside. I’m disgusted by all of it. You know, I’m disgusted that they they allow my Caucasian employee into the Kevin Byrne press box and I’m not allowed. So like the the whole thing’s a mess at this point. I can’t expect the Hall of Fame to not be on the up and up. I mean, I expect the Hall of Fame to be about politics now. Moving because it’s very clear it

John McClain 24:19
is. Let me point out: never one time in my 33 years did anybody ever say to me, “I’ll vote for your guy, you vote for mine. Never, and some people think that’s the way it is. Never, never happened. Say we didn’t put somebody in because they didn’t talk to the media. No, excuse me. The Belichick thing, which they say has nothing to do with these changes, but of course it has everything to do with it. Some of the people and I don’t know. There was a story, and I don’t know if it’s on ESPN. Say missed by one vote. Well, out of 5012, people could think no and vote no, and you don’t get in because you got to get 80% But. I know some people. Two of them wrote columns: Mike Chapel in Indianapolis, and Vahe Gregorian in Kansas City, saying they voted for a senior over Belichick because the way the committee set up now with the rules, you have to decide among the. You did now it’s changed again among seniors, contributors, and coaches. So they voted. They both said they voted for a senior because they thought that senior that they voted for was the last chance they’d ever have, and Belichick could get in the next year. And so one of the things that kicked around, and this is something that nobody thinks of. Everybody blasted us because we didn’t put in Belichick. He orchestrated the biggest scandal in pro football history. He was overseeing one of the biggest scandals, Spygate. The way Bill resigned on a napkin from being named the Jets head coach to go to New England and all that got him fine draft choices and everything. So he had a bunch of black marks on his resume. So should he go in immediately when you had these others that we were seriously considering? I don’t. I can’t tell you that’s the reason that he didn’t get in. I voted for Belichick, but I know some people had an issue with that, and I’m sure he’ll get in this year. And then they’ll say, “Oh well, they got rid of the guys that voted against him. But and I’m fine with whatever they want to do. I just want to make sure that the committee does, and I know they will, will continue to do as good a job as they can to get the right people in. And Vince Lombardi didn’t go in on the first ballot. I don’t think Tom Landry did, and I don’t remember them raising Kane at the time that they didn’t get in on the first ballot. But I’m out, and they offered me a chance to be on a subcommittee. I said thanks, but no thanks, and I’m free and clear.

Nestor Aparicio 26:54
Well, it’s giving more time back to enjoy yourself and watch baseball. John Mcclane is here. He’s Mcclain on the NFL, even though he’ll be watching baseball here, and do you have anything you want to say about baseball labor? I don’t want to talk about on the field. Like off the field, I

John McClain 27:07
would think we’re headed for a lockout, and you better enjoy the playoffs and the World Series because I’ve seen a date, something like may 2 next year, that has something to do with money. That’s when they’ll probably end it, but there’s so much animosity over the salary cap. As long as the two words salary and cap are in there, players will never go for it, and shouldn’t. And I think it’s remarkable. Milwaukee’s best team in baseball, small market. Tampa Bay’s best team in American League, small market. Wouldn’t it be something if one of those teams won it instead of the Dodgers or anybody else? And then they’d say, “Well, small market team just won World Series, and why do you have to have a cap?

Nestor Aparicio 27:51
It’s going to be a war. I know that. I’ll be watching football here. Luke and I will be watching football and baseball and talking about baseball all month long. We’re celebrating 28 years here at WNST with some rock and roll stories in our music memory bank, all brought to you by our newest sponsor, Rosedale Bank. Not new to me. I’ve been banking in Rosedale for a number of years. We’re going to be talking about that, as well as our friends at the Maryland Lottery doing the Ravens kiss face scratch off bird on Friday. We’ll be at Pizza John’s. Our friends at GBMC and Farnham and Dermer also putting us out on the road for these great conversations. It has been a lovely visit with John Mcclane. Even though he’s in Houston, he’s got a little bit to do with them allers and the Titans who are coming in here as a 12 point dog on Sunday. And man, zero and four Texans on I, I John, I’m I stand I stand as stunned that the Texans have stunk like this.

John McClain 28:38
Everybody’s shocked, but but it’s mainly they’re mad because it’s the same old problem, the same problem in the offensive line. And D’Amico Ryan’s, I wrote this, had the worst coaching game of his career. He’d totally botched 30 seconds at the end of the game that would have come in handy when they were trying to kick a winning field goal at the end, and they and they couldn’t complete a hail mary. Those extra 30 seconds would have been good. And he didn’t have a good answer for why he didn’t do it. And his offense, with because of the line, is pathetic. So he took the ball first to try to establish a a running game. And so they go three and out as usual. So people are here are extra angry now. I never said they go to Super Bowl. I didn’t do that. I’ve never done that. I want to see them get past AFC champion. They get to the AFC Championship game for the first time in history. They always go out in the divisional round, and so I. A lot of people are mad because they overrated them, and they should be, because this team just sucks.

Nestor Aparicio 29:42
John Mcclane is here. He calls it like he sees it down in Houston, Texas, as always, and has more time on his hands to enjoy his baseball passions here now that he’s not on the Hall of Fame committee any longer. John, it’s always a pleasure to visit with you. Thanks for coming on, as always, and I’ll see you down the road. We’ll we’ll talk some baseball strike and eat some crack. At some point this winter, all right,

John McClain 30:01
Nestor. It’s my pleasure. Any time at all. Thank you very much. The

Nestor Aparicio 30:04
good man, John Mcclain. He is the general and the the Hall of Famer. I should call you the Hall of Famer because you are. I am Nestor. We are WNST AM 1570 Towson, Baltimore. Let’s get ready for some Ravens and some Titans this week. Watching baseball. We’re Baltimore positive.