“Just from the coaching standpoint, I got an advantage because I’ve seen it from a lot of different avenues as far as teams I’ve been on and learned from a lot of different people, but he has the advantage as a player because obviously he played 13 years in the league,” Harold said. “He was able to physically do it, but from a coaching standpoint, I got him right now. He’s green as they would say in the coaching profession.

“But I told the guys, especially the centers in the room, to soak up the knowledge. You’ve got a guy who played 13 years, been in two Super Bowls, won one, and he’s played a high level, made a Pro Bowl. He’s got a lot of skin in the game as far as playing position. So for those guys to turn around and look at somebody that actually played in the NFL for a long time at a high level with Drew Brees and Alex Smith, he’s learned things from them that he can share with them as far as how a center and a quarterback see the game from that lens. It’s good for everybody.”

And as Jonathan considers a future in coaching, he accepts he’s behind his big brother again, and remains grateful to be here in whatever capacity.

“We’ve both been in this industry for a while, so you know it’s a little bit surreal to be around your big brother, the guy you grew up looking up to,” Jonathan said. “And you know it makes things easier for my mom and the rest of my family, it’s definitely a good feeling to know now she doesn’t have to root for two teams, and one of them being across the country. So it’s definitely been a good experience and something I hope could continue.

“It’s something that means a lot and I definitely cherish it, that doesn’t happen too often in this business where you get those opportunities. So I’m definitely grateful and thankful for it. Like I said, I’m forever grateful for Jim Harbaugh and the Chargers, and now I’m forever grateful to Dave (Canales), Mr. Tepper, and Dan Morgan for being here.”

Jonathan’s wife is still packing up the furniture in California and getting the rest of the family here, which means Joyce still has more FaceTime calls with her granddaughter than she might prefer.

“I think she FaceTimes my daughter every day,” Jonathan said of his mom.

Harold joked that “Thanksgiving’s going to be a lot easier,” but he also knows how much it means to his mother, after all those years of sacrificing for her boys, working all week and then driving all night, and putting all her energy into raising two sons.

“She’s super proud,” Harold says. “She tells us how proud she is all the time, the way we’ve turned out in life, and the things we’ve been able to do and accomplish. So she’s super happy, super grateful, and she just, she feels like she’s been blessed.”

That’s clear in even a short conversation with Joyce Goodwin. She could talk all day about her boys, but she also reserves the right to be a little emotional as well.

So now that they’re in the same place at the same time, and wearing the same logo, the words come softly when she’s asked what it’s like to imagine seeing them coaching the same team — and just being together again.

“It’s just a blessing,” she replied. “I can’t wait to get into the stadium and see them together. It just means so much to all of us.”