Updated: Nov. 10, 2025, 9:01 a.m.|Published: Nov. 10, 2025, 9:00 a.m.Cleveland Browns vs. New York Jets, November 9, 2025 Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski’s Browns fell to 2-7 after Sunday’s loss to the Jets.John Kuntz, cleveland.com

CLEVELAND, Ohio — A single penalty doesn’t typically doom an NFL team’s season. But when Browns pass rusher Cam Thomas jumped offsides on a fourth-and-five against the Jets — a play where everyone in the stadium knew New York wouldn’t snap the ball — it represented something far more troubling than just five yards.

In the latest episode of Orange and Brown Talk, host Dan Labbe and Browns beat reporters Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock unpacked how this one “inexcusable” mistake symbolizes deeper coaching issues for a floundering Browns team.

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