{"id":290554,"date":"2025-08-15T16:45:21","date_gmt":"2025-08-15T16:45:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/290554\/"},"modified":"2025-08-15T16:45:21","modified_gmt":"2025-08-15T16:45:21","slug":"can-new-york-giants-kayvon-thibodeaux-silence-the-critics-in-2025","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/290554\/","title":{"rendered":"Can New York Giants Kayvon Thibodeaux silence the critics in 2025?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Is 2025 the year for New York Giants edge defender Kayvon Thibodeaux?<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">There have been flashes of what he could be dating back to his rookie year. There was the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.giants.com\/video\/can-t-miss-play-kayvon-thibodeaux-strip-sacks-lamar-jackson-late-in-4th-quarter-\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">strip-sack of Lamar Jackson<\/a> to seal the Giants\u2019 win over the Baltimore Ravens, as well as the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.giants.com\/video\/kayvon-thibodeaux-scores-first-career-td-on-strip-sack-giants-vs-commanders-high\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">sack-fumble-touchdown<\/a> against the Washington Commanders that helped the Giants make the playoffs in 2022. He followed that up with an 11.5-sack season in 2023, which would normally be considered a \u201cbreakout\u201d performance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">And yet Thibodeaux is widely treated as an afterthought in the Giants\u2019 defensive front, a disposable asset who could be traded. He\u2019s even considered an outright bust by some fans.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Part of the issue stems from the fact that Thibodeaux has been upfront about pursuing Michael Strahan\u2019s single-season sack record of 22.0, set back in 2001.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Thibodeaux\u2019s goals have been presented \u2014 or taken \u2014 as a statement of his own personal greatness. That he will break the record because he\u2019s just that good.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Instead, he insists, he sets his sights high because he\u2019s chasing greatness.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">\u201cI always have personal goals,\u201d Thibodeaux said. \u201cI think I start off with just trying to be the best and trying to break the record. I\u2019m always going for the league record or Strahan\u2019s record when it comes to sacks and tackles and things like that. For me, you know, I also just want to play my best ball, whatever that looks like, so not only the numbers, but having the film to match it. For me right now, in this part of the season, I\u2019m focused on having the film to match how I want to play.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">\u201cI feel like if you don\u2019t have any goals, you don\u2019t have any direction,\u201d he added. \u201cIf you don\u2019t have any things set out for what you want to do, it\u2019s hard to figure out what you\u2019re going to do. For me, I like to set the goals so that I can at least set a standard and say, \u2018Am I playing to my standard?\u2019 And that\u2019s why I\u2019ve added to not only just having the goals be the goals, but then also having the film to back it up because you may not get 22 sacks. You may not get 100-and something tackles, but if you fall somewhere in between that and then you have the film and the hard work and everything to back that up, then you can be considered still a top player.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Thibodeaux mentioned putting good play on tape, even if he isn\u2019t stacking the stat sheet, a few times on Thursday. And to be fair, there is a bit of \u201cLeonard Williams\u201d in Thibodeaux\u2019s game. Williams had one of the highest pressure rates in the league at his position, but relatively few sacks to show for it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">And in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bigblueview.com\/2025\/7\/28\/24476229\/brian-burns-nothing-to-talk-about-until-giants-play-in-games-that-count\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">going to the tape of his play last year<\/a>, Thibodeaux was a couple steps and a few seconds shy of having a monster season. The stat sheet didn\u2019t directly reflect it, but Thibodeaux put quality play on tape. In fact, he set a personal high-water mark for quarterback hits despite playing the fewest snaps of his career.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Teammate Brian Burns <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bigblueview.com\/2025\/7\/28\/24476229\/brian-burns-nothing-to-talk-about-until-giants-play-in-games-that-count\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">mentioned earlier this summer<\/a> that he believes Thibodeaux changed at some point last year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">\u201cKT flipped the switch last year. I don\u2019t know if y\u2019all peeped it, but he flipped the switch last year, playing a lot harder, playing a lot more physical,\u201d Burns said at the start of camp. \u201cI expect big things from KT this year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">\u201cI can\u2019t really put a finger on when it happened. I know he made a decision to make that switch. I know (outside linebackers) Coach Bullen had &#8211; I call him Charlie, only I can call him that. Charlie had a big influence on that switch with KT and I\u2019m proud of what he\u2019s been doing so far.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Thibodeaux also credited Bullen with his improvement since the start of last year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">\u201cCharlie Bullen has been a great asset to me and the rest of the guys in the room,\u201d Thibodeaux said, \u201cand continuing to kind of grow \u2013 not just my ability on the field, but know what weight I want to play at, know what size, know what side of the ball I like and just figuring out what works for me and kind of just honing in on it, using that as my strength.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">\u201cI don\u2019t think it\u2019s necessarily a certain technique, but I think it\u2019s the consistency of greatness,\u201d he added. \u201cIt\u2019s understanding that, \u2018Yeah, you know it, but let\u2019s just go over it three more times.\u2019 I think it\u2019s that 10,000-hour mindset.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Giants\u2019 defensive line coach Andre Patterson spoke earlier this year about the time it takes (most) pass rushers to learn how to consistently finish their rushes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">\u201cA lot of guys blow the rush when they get to the top of the rush,\u201d Patterson said back in June. \u201cA lot of guys are quick. A lot of guys are explosive. A lot of guys can go edge to edge. But when they get to the top of the rush, they become mechanical. And as a coach, it takes guys two, three, four years to figure that out.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Patterson was asked about Abdul Carter and his knack for rushing the passer despite just one year as an edge defender. However, he might have been thinking about former Vikings edge Danielle Hunter when he talked about how long it can take some defenders to play freely at the top of their rushes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Hunter was drafted out of LSU as a raw but physically talented edge. He had all the tools to be a start but wasn\u2019t a sack artist coming out of college. And the first three years of Thibodeaux\u2019s career mirror Hunter\u2019s surprisingly closely. Hunter had 6.0, 12.5, and 7.0 sacks and 39 QB hits his first three years with Coach Patterson. Thibodeaux, meanwhile, had 4.0, 11.5, and 5.0 sacks and 46 QB hits since being drafted as as a young and talented, but not terribly prolific, EDGE.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Once Hunter hit his fourth year, it was off to the races. He averaged just under one sack a game (0.82 sacks per game) from 2018 to 2024. Could Thibodeaux be in for a similar leap?<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">\u201cI think when you speak of flipping a switch, you know, good players only become great, quote-on-quote, when they have good coaching,\u201d Thibodeaux said. \u201c(There\u2019s) not a lot of times you see players succeed without good coaches around them.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Thibodeaux also has some great players around him. He was quick to credit Burns for his play in practice as well as games, and how that encourages him to raise his game.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">\u201cMichael Strahan told me when I got drafted, \u2018It\u2019s not about being one of the 11 guys out on the field. It\u2019s about being the one out of the 11.\u2019 So for him [Burns], I know he wants to be the best on the field,\u201d Thibodeaux said. \u201cI want to be the best on the field. Abdul, all the way to Jev\u00f3n [Holland], all the way to the corners with Tae Banks and [Paulson] Adebo. It\u2019s definitely a competitiveness, but I also think everybody is fighting their own battle and for him, the sky is the limit and for me, I love just kind of feeding off whether it\u2019s his talent, his energy, and vice versa.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">The big question is whether Thibodeaux\u2019s improvement will find its way to the stat sheet. There\u2019s going to be a lot of competition for sacks in the Giants\u2019 defense, and Thibodeaux may wind up generating more assists than sacks.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">\u201cThis is one of those things where we\u2019ll have to see how the cards play out on which way they slide [protection], which way they chip, or things like that,\u201d Thibodeaux said. \u201cBut I definitely think it\u2019s going to be a great opportunity for all of us. It\u2019s going to be a race to the quarterback. I was laughing with Dex about it, like he\u2019s already the fastest guy because he\u2019s the closest, but now you got an even faster guy with Abdul in there, and you still got Burns on the other side so we\u2019re definitely going to be nail-biting to see who gets that sack.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"duet--article--comments-link _1jdgahs9\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bigblueview.com\/new-york-giants-training-camp\/132514\/can-kayvon-thibodeaux-silence-the-critics-in-2025#comments\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Is 2025 the year for New York Giants edge defender Kayvon Thibodeaux? 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