{"id":356814,"date":"2025-09-10T12:27:13","date_gmt":"2025-09-10T12:27:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/356814\/"},"modified":"2025-09-10T12:27:13","modified_gmt":"2025-09-10T12:27:13","slug":"giants-paying-the-price-for-gm-joe-schoens-draft-misses","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/356814\/","title":{"rendered":"Giants paying the price for GM Joe Schoen\u2019s draft misses"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">The wreckage of some of the costly draft mistakes GM Joe Schoen and the New York Giants have made since 2022 was on full display in Sunday\u2019s season-opening loss to the Washington Commanders.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Evan Neal, the No. 7 overall pick by Schoen in 2022, was inactive. That\u2019s an indication the Giants don\u2019t think he is transitioning well to guard after flopping at right tackle.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Jalin Hyatt, a player the Giants traded up for in Round 3 of the 2023 NFL Draft, did not play a snap. This after a season in which he caught just eight passes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Deonte Banks whom Schoen traded up one spot to make sure he was able to select in Round 1 of the 2023 draft, played only 11 snaps and did not get on the stat sheet.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Even Darius Alexander, third-round pick in the 2025 NFL Draft, was inactive. The Giants preferred to elevate defensive lineman Elijah Garcia rather than give Alexander a uniform. Alexander had a quiet summer after missing spring practices, so perhaps he just needs time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Not coincidentally, the Giants on Sunday displayed issues on the offensive line, in pass coverage, getting receivers open and stopping the run.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Schoen has been widely praised for his work in the 2024 and 2025 drafts. Maybe those will turn out to be home runs for the Giants. Do we really, though, know the answer at this point? Probably not.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">What we do know is that missing on highly-drafted players when you are trying to rebuild a team is devastating. And, the Giants are smarting from many of the draft picks gone wrong. Particularly over the first two seasons of Schoen\u2019s tenure.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Let\u2019s go through each of Schoen\u2019s four draft classes. Admittedly, it is too early to draw conclusions about 2024 and 2025, but they are still worthy of discussion. I am going to grade the classes using our unique \u2018Kudos &amp; Wet Willies\u2019 format.<\/p>\n<p>Round 1 (No. 5) \u2014 Kayvon Thibodeaux (Edge)Round 1 (No. 7) \u2014 Evan Neal (OL)Round 2 (No. 43) \u2014 Wan\u2019Dale Robinson (WR)Round 3 (No. 67) \u2014 Josh Ezeudu (OL)Round 3 (No. 81) \u2014 Cor\u2019Dale Flott (CB)Round 4 (No. 112) \u2014 Daniel Bellinger (TE)Round 4 (No. 114) \u2014 Dane Belton (S)Round 5 (No. 146) \u2014 Micah McFadden (LB)Round 5 (No. 147) \u2014 D.J. Davidson (DT)Round 5 (No. 173) \u2014 Marcus McKethan (OL)Round 6 (No. 182) \u2014 Darrian Beavers (LB)<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">The Evan Neal flop has been a crusher for the Giants, and overshadows anything else that is good, or at least OK, about this group.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">When you miss on a top 10 pick, and with the Giants not even giving Neal a uniform in Week 1 as a healthy scratch, the selection of Neal absolutely qualifies as a miss, that sets a rebuilding franchise back. Top 10 picks are gold, and you can\u2019t fritter them away if you want to gain ground. We thought Neal might take the starting right guard job from Greg Van Roten. Now, it\u2019s fair to wonder if Neal ever plays another snap as a Giant.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Offensive tackles Ikem Ekwonu (taken No. 6 by the Carolina Panthers) and Charles Cross (No. 9 by the Seattle Seahawks) are clearly better players.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">The fact that Josh Ezeudu is also a miss from this class further complicates getting the offensive line right. The Giants figured they had drafted two starters. What they have are two guys they don\u2019t want to put on the field.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Kayvon Thibodeaux as the No. 5 pick has been fine, in my view. Not the star the Giants might have hoped for, yet, but his best football might still be coming.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Knowing he needed warm bodies to fill out his roster, Schoen traded down twice in Round 2 to add picks before selecting Wan\u2019Dale Robinson much earlier than most analysts thought Robinson should have been selected. Robinson is a nice player, but his physical limitations hamper his production. Schoen should probably have just selected George Pickens.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Micah McFadden has been a nice find in Round 5.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Cor\u2019Dale Flott is OK, but the Giants likely hoped for more than they have gotten.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Daniel Bellinger is a player the Giants have not fully utilized since a promising rookie season. Dane Belton and D.J. Davidson are useful role players.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Darrian Beavers and Marcus McKethan are out of the league.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">McFadden is the only player out of 11 chosen who has outperformed his draft position. You can argue that the Giants have not gotten what they truly hoped for from any of their five Day 1 and Day 2 picks.<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"_1eezmj01\" href=\"https:\/\/platform.bigblueview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/27\/2025\/09\/imagn-26985335.jpg?quality=90&amp;strip=all&amp;crop=0,0,100,100\" data-pswp-height=\"1200\" data-pswp-width=\"1200\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\"><img alt=\"Deonte Banks\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"fill\" class=\"w91vxg0\" style=\"position:absolute;height:100%;width:100%;left:0;top:0;right:0;bottom:0;color:transparent;background-size:cover;background-position:50% 50%;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-image:url(&quot;data:image\/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,%3Csvg xmlns='http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg' %3E%3Cfilter id='b' color-interpolation-filters='sRGB'%3E%3CfeGaussianBlur stdDeviation='20'\/%3E%3CfeColorMatrix values='1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 100 -1' result='s'\/%3E%3CfeFlood x='0' y='0' width='100%25' height='100%25'\/%3E%3CfeComposite operator='out' in='s'\/%3E%3CfeComposite in2='SourceGraphic'\/%3E%3CfeGaussianBlur stdDeviation='20'\/%3E%3C\/filter%3E%3Cimage width='100%25' height='100%25' x='0' y='0' preserveAspectRatio='none' style='filter: url(%23b);' href='data:image\/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAEAAAABCAQAAAC1HAwCAAAAC0lEQVR42mN8+R8AAtcB6oaHtZcAAAAASUVORK5CYII='\/%3E%3C\/svg%3E&quot;)\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/imagn-26985335.jpg\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Deonte Banks<\/p>\n<p>Round 1 (No. 24) \u2014 Deonte Banks (CB)Round 2 (No. 57) \u2014 John Michael Schmitz (C)Round 3 (No. 73) \u2014 Jalin Hyatt (WR)Round 5 (No. 172) \u2014 Eric Gray (RB)Round 6 (No. 209) \u2014 Tre Hawkins (CB)Round 7 (No. 243) \u2014 Jordon Riley (DT)Round 7 (No. 254) \u2014 Gervarrius Owens (S)<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">This class has been a disaster. There is really no other way to put it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Deonte Banks played poorly and behaved worse in 2024, his second NFL season. That is a big reason former defensive backs coach Jerome Henderson got fired. Now, Banks has lot his starting job to Flott. The Giants not only selected Banks, but they gave up fifth- and seventh-round draft capital to do so.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">The Giants have shown us for more than a year now that they don\u2019t believe Jalin Hyatt is an NFL receiver. John Michael Schmitz was thought to be a home run pick at No. 57, a probably starting center for a decade. That has not developed. Schmitz has shown neither the power to hold up in the interior or the athleticism to be an asset.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Eric Gray (PUP list) and Jordon Riley (practice squad) don\u2019t have roles on the team. Neither had much success in their opportunities in 2023 and 2024. Tre Hawkins was just waived from IR. The Giants moved on from Gervarrius Owens after a year, and he is now on the Chicago Bears\u2019 practice squad.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Make that a super-sized \u2018Wet Willie\u2019 with a side of Nickelodeon slime. There isn\u2019t a single player from this class who has become what the Giants hoped he would be. In the not too distant future, it is possible there won\u2019t be a single player on the roster from this class.<\/p>\n<p>Round 1 (No. 6) \u2014 Malik Nabers (WR)Round 2 (No. 47) \u2014 Tyler Nubin (S)Round 3 (No. 70) \u2014 Dru Phillips (CB)Round 4 (No. 107) \u2014 Theo Johnson (TE)Round 5 (No. 166) \u2014 Tyrone Tracy Jr. (RB)Round 6 (No. 183) \u2014 Darius Muasau (LB)<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Can we talk about J.J. McCarthy, and why he is not quarterbacking the Giants right now? Malik Nabers is a fantastic player. Jaxson Dart is in place as the quarterback of the future, and early indications are that he could be a good one.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Did you watch the Monday Night Football game this week as McCarthy, in his NFL debut, led the Minnesota Vikings to a come-from-behind victory? The Giants did not think McCarthy was the right fit for them, and took Nabers. Great player, but quarterback is still more important.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">What the Giants ended up with (Nabers, Dart, Abdul Carter) might be fantastic. If Dart works out, everything is good. If he doesn\u2019t, questioning whether the Giants should have taken McCarthy when they had the chance is fair. There is also this \u2014 take McCarthy in 2024 and you don\u2019t have to give up premium draft capital a year later to get Dart.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Tyler Nubin, Dru Phillips and Tyrone Tracy are nice players. It would be great, though, if the turnover-forcing player Nubin was in college would eventually show up in the NFL.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">I don\u2019t know what to make of Theo Johnson. All sorts of natural ability and potential, but will he be the player Daboll thinks he can be? That\u2019s debatable.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">I\u2019m not sure Muasau will ever be more than a special teamer and fill-in linebacker, which is OK for a sixth-round pick. The Commanders picked on him Sunday when he replaced an injured McFadden. With McFadden <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bigblueview.com\/new-york-giants-injuries\/135601\/giants-lb-micah-mcfadden-to-miss-significant-time-per-report\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">out for an extended period of time<\/a> it is going to be interesting to see if Carter gets regular off-ball linebacker snaps.<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"_1eezmj01\" href=\"https:\/\/platform.bigblueview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/27\/2025\/09\/gettyimages-2234195224.jpg?quality=90&amp;strip=all&amp;crop=0,0,100,100\" data-pswp-height=\"5760\" data-pswp-width=\"8640\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\"><img alt=\"Abdul Carter\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"fill\" class=\"w91vxg0\" style=\"position:absolute;height:100%;width:100%;left:0;top:0;right:0;bottom:0;color:transparent;background-size:cover;background-position:50% 50%;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-image:url(&quot;data:image\/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,%3Csvg xmlns='http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg' %3E%3Cfilter id='b' color-interpolation-filters='sRGB'%3E%3CfeGaussianBlur stdDeviation='20'\/%3E%3CfeColorMatrix values='1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 100 -1' result='s'\/%3E%3CfeFlood x='0' y='0' width='100%25' height='100%25'\/%3E%3CfeComposite operator='out' in='s'\/%3E%3CfeComposite in2='SourceGraphic'\/%3E%3CfeGaussianBlur stdDeviation='20'\/%3E%3C\/filter%3E%3Cimage width='100%25' height='100%25' x='0' y='0' preserveAspectRatio='none' style='filter: url(%23b);' href='data:image\/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAEAAAABCAQAAAC1HAwCAAAAC0lEQVR42mN8+R8AAtcB6oaHtZcAAAAASUVORK5CYII='\/%3E%3C\/svg%3E&quot;)\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/1757507233_83_gettyimages-2234195224.jpg\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Abdul Carter Getty Images<\/p>\n<p>Round 1 (No. 3) \u2014 Abdul Carter (Edge)Round 1 (No. 25) \u2014 Jaxson Dart (QB)Round 3 (No. 65) \u2014 Darius Alexander (DT)Round 4 (No. 105) \u2014 Cam Skattebo (RB)Round 5 (No. 154) \u2014 Marcus Mbow (OL)Round 7 (No. 219) \u2014 Thomas Fidone (TE)Round 7 (No. 246) \u2014 Korie Black (CB)<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">This class could be the one that saves Schoen\u2019s and Daboll\u2019s bacon. Carter looks like a star in the making. Dart could be the answer at quarterback the Giants have needed since the end of the Eli Manning era. Darius Alexander was inactive Week 1, but could still emerge with a big role. Cam Skattebo is an exciting running back. Marcus Mbow might provide a long-term answer somewhere on the offensive line. Fidone is a promising tight end.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Black? Well, you can\u2019t bat 1.000. He\u2019s a New York Jet.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">If I had to put an overall grade on these drafts right now, it would be a \u2018Kwillie\u2019 leaning precipitously toward a \u2018Wet Willie.\u2019 With prime draft position, Schoen simply did not get enough value from his picks the first two seasons.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">The development of the last two classes, and it is unfair to put a definitive grade on the 2024 class one game into Year 2 for that group, could drastically change the perception. And the Giants\u2019 fortunes. Schoen and the Giants need to hope that is the case.<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"duet--article--comments-link _1jdgahs9\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bigblueview.com\/new-york-giants-analysis\/135587\/joe-schoens-drafts-have-left-giants-with-few-options#comments\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">0 Comments<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"The wreckage of some of the costly draft mistakes GM Joe Schoen and the New York Giants have&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":356815,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[7,1870,6,15,3748],"class_list":{"0":"post-356814","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-nfl-draft","8":"tag-football","9":"tag-new-york-giants-analysis","10":"tag-nfl","11":"tag-nfl-draft","12":"tag-valentines-views"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/channels.im\/@nfl\/115180001376167779","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/356814","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=356814"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/356814\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/356815"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=356814"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=356814"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=356814"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}