{"id":676629,"date":"2026-01-14T13:17:17","date_gmt":"2026-01-14T13:17:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/676629\/"},"modified":"2026-01-14T13:17:17","modified_gmt":"2026-01-14T13:17:17","slug":"the-ny-giants-need-relevance-which-is-why-they-need-john-harbaugh","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/676629\/","title":{"rendered":"The NY Giants need relevance, which is why they need John Harbaugh"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">The New York Giants have lost too much.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Since they won the 2011 Super Bowl, the Giants have the fourth-worst record in the NFL (83-145-1, .369). Since 2017, the Giants\u2019 44-104-1 (.299) are a half-game behind the New York Jets (44-105, .295) for the worst record in the league.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">That losing is, of course, at the center of everything for the Giants. The bad product they have put on the field the vast majority of time since 2012, though, is causing them to lose other things.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">The Giants have lost relevance. They are the league\u2019s fourth-oldest franchise. They have four titles in the Super Bowl era, and eight in their history. They consider themselves an NFL standard bearer, a model franchise run the way NFL teams should be run. Yet, these days the Giants are a bottom-feeder franchise nobody talks about, nobody worries about, and certainly nobody holds up as an example of the way an NFL team should conduct business.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">\u201cI think the Giants are at a very ceremonious position right now with this coaching hire,\u201d former Giant and current NFL Network insider Shaun O\u2019Hara told the \u2018Valentine\u2019s Views\u2019 podcast this week. \u201cThey no longer have the luxury of \u2018we can swing and miss again\u2019. That\u2019s it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">\u201cGiants fans are at their wits end. Their patience rope is at the end. They have run out of patience. When you\u2019re in this New York\/New Jersey area the worst thing that can happen is you can be irrelevant, and that\u2019s what the Giants have been trending towards. That\u2019s when you know you are in trouble.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Perhaps the Giants haven\u2019t reached Brooklyn Nets-level irrelevance, but I would argue that they are mostly irrelevant to the rest of the NFL right now.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">They are at risk of becoming irrelevant in another, perhaps more important, way for the long-term health of the franchise.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">The Giants are at risk of losing a generation of fans. Of becoming a team that is no longer considered THE football team in this part of the country. There was a time when Giants\u2019 season tickets were what everyone in the New York\/New Jersey\/Connecticut market wanted, and that families passed down for generations.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">I\u2019m not sure that is the case any longer.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Pull up in the parking lot at MetLife Stadium for a Giants game and there are tailgates and people having fun. What there isn\u2019t, in the parking lot or in the stadium, is excitement. There is often a helicopter circling above the stadium on game days, likely to protect the airspace from disgruntled fans wanting to send John Mara a message. The Giants are certainly not an event. These days, season ticket-holders are often selling their seats on the secondary market, resulting in home games rarely offering a home field advantage.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">It had to be embarrassing for Cam Skattebo to stand on the field before the season finale with a microphone and try to get a \u201cLet\u2019s Go Giants!\u201d chant going while hardly anyone responded before the Week 18 game against the Dallas Cowboys.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Let me bring this to a more personal level. My home is just outside of Albany, 145 miles or about 2\u00bd hours from MetLife. Foxboro, Mass., where the New England Patriots play, is just slightly farther away, maybe three hours. Orchard Park, N.Y., where the Buffalo Bills will play in a new stadium in 2026, is 300 miles and five hours away. I know that because I drove it dozens of times when one of my children went to college there.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">There was a time when this was Giants country. That wasn\u2019t very long ago. The Giants trained in Albany from 1996-2010, and for the final time in 2012. The Giants were THE TEAM here at the time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">There were always a handful of Patriots, Bills, and New York Jets fans in this part of the state. If you wanted Bills or Patriots merchandise, good luck. Today, things are different. There are tons of Patriots fans in the area. There are more and more Bills fans. Turn on the local news around here, and the Bills are the team that generally gets the air time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">I see and feel this drain away from the Giants personally. One of my sons is a Patriots fan. My grandson, who is just a mile away, has a Josh Allen poster hanging in his bedroom and calls himself a Bills fan. For crying out loud, Mrs. Big Blue View is a Bills fan.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">All of this is why the Giants desperately need John Harbaugh. It is why GM Joe Schoen has been aggressive in staying in contact with Harbaugh\u2019s representatives. It is why Chris Mara, stepping into the breach with his brother, John, fighting cancer, went to Harbaugh\u2019s home over the weekend to have lunch with the future Hall of Fame coach.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">John Mara, cancer battle aside, seems to fully understand where the franchise is and the importance of this coaching hire.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">The Giants need a coach who walks into their locker room, has instant credibility with the players, and can set standards. They also need a coach who makes them relevant. A coach who gets fans excited, who gets the talking heads discussing them, who gets kids to perk up and think \u201cmaybe I do want that Jaxson Dart jersey,\u201d and makes them interested in what happens when the Giants play.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">They would get some of that with a coach like Kevin Stefanski or Mike McCarthy. They might eventually get that with a first-time coach like Jeff Hafley or Klint Kubiak. They might, though, stay stuck where they are. A place called \u2018Irrelevance.\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">John Harbaugh could win a Super Bowl with the Giants, but that isn\u2019t really the bar the Giants need to cross right now. They need relevance. Harbaugh gives them that the second he signs on the dotted line.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">[EDITOR\u2019S NOTE: O\u2019Hara and Roman Oben, both former Giants, were available to be interviewed thanks to an NFL Alumni Association initiative to raise awareness regarding lung cancer. Listen to the podcast below to find out more about that, and what both former players think about the Giants.]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"The New York Giants have lost too much. 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