{"id":767133,"date":"2026-02-21T17:04:27","date_gmt":"2026-02-21T17:04:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/767133\/"},"modified":"2026-02-21T17:04:27","modified_gmt":"2026-02-21T17:04:27","slug":"new-york-giants-mailbag-john-harbaugh-retirement-plans-carnell-tate-more","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/767133\/","title":{"rendered":"New York Giants mailbag: John Harbaugh, retirement plans, Carnell Tate, more"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Chris Hynes asks: Obviously with Harbaugh coming in, there are going to be many moving parts, do you think if Wan\u2019dale moves on to another team, they would try Hyatt in the slot? <\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Ed says: Chris, my answer would be no for the simple reason that I don\u2019t think Jalin Hyatt is going to be on the roster. If he is on the roster where he would play might depend on who else is brought in. After three years of nothing is there any real reason to expect a contribution from Hyatt no matter where he plays?<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Christopher Scanlon asks: I\u2019ve personally been on the fence as far as Caleb Downs consideration goes. I came up with an interesting thought experiment to help consolidate my opinion. What do you think?<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">If you could select rookie Kyle Hamilton this year, fifth overall,with full knowledge of his eventual production, would you do it? Essentially, what kind of a difference maker is some version of the best case scenario at this position? Obviously a different player, but say you could get Hamilton level production out of Downs, would we be happy with the pick? Worth passing on a trade down?<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Ed says: Chris, Hamilton is a three-time All-Pro, two of those First-Team selections, in three seasons. I would absolutely be thrilled with that kind of production. Of course, I was someone who thought Hamilton should have been in play for the Giants when they had picks 5 and 7 in 2022.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">As for a trade down, it depends on what is being offered. I am never going to be unhappy with a difference-making defensive player at No. 5, regardless of position.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Ralph R Kopera asks: Seems like we can\u2019t go a week without a Trade Thibs article with one of the supposed benefits of the trade freeing up his $14.7M in salary cap hit.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">But there are other ways to reduce that hit. The first would be to extend him.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Since none of use knows what Harbaugh or Wilson think of Thibs as a player, no telling if they\u2019d even consider it. But they could.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Given his performance he should not be looking to top out the edge market, but who knows if either side wants an extension.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">But here is my question: could they use void years and turn his salary into a bonus?<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Currently, Thibs has $14.7 salary due. Can they change his base to $1.2M and make the other $13.5M as a bonus, adding void years to spread out the cap hits.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">If they add three void years, this makes the bonus worth 3.375 each year (this year plus 3 void years) and this year is $4.575M instead of $14.7M. Saving $10M in cap hit. Or is this something that needed to be done prior to the start of this league year? <\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Ed says: Ralph, no they can\u2019t do anything with Kayvon Thibodeaux\u2019s cap hit this year. He is playing on his fifth-year option, and that is non-negotiable.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">They could offer him a contract extension, but that would not kick in until 2027.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Steve Alessandrini asks: I\u2019ve seen several \u201cstories\u201d emerge recently that imply Schoen is now secretly pretty powerless and much of the org reports to Dawn Aponte, who reports to Harbaugh. Candidly, many of these feel like hit pieces to discredit Schoen by his detractors vs giving fans real news. Obviously Schoen lost some power with the head coach no longer reporting to him, but was curious for your objective opinion on what level of power Schoen still maintains and what relegated to Harbaugh or Aponte?<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Ed says: Steve, there might be a \u201chit piece\u201d element to some of what has been written. There is, though, truth in the idea that Joe Schoen has lost power since the hiring of John Harbaugh.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Before Harbaugh was hired, Schoen was at the top of the organizational chart directly under ownership when it came to football decisions. He had final say. That is clearly no longer the case.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">The most powerful man in the Giants\u2019 organization now outside of ownership is John Harbaugh. If Harbaugh wants to draft Caleb Downs and Schoen doesn\u2019t, the Giants will draft Downs. If Harbaugh wants Tyler Linderbaum in free agency and Schoen doesn\u2019t, the Giants will try to sign Linderbaum. Harbaugh will be the final arbiter on who makes the 53-man roster.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">If there are people Harbaugh wants removed from the organization, they are going to get removed. It is his show.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Dawn Aponte has basically the same title that Kevin Abrams had, and the same list of responsibilities. Clearly, though, the fact that she reports to Harbaugh and not to the GM adds weight to that role and takes power away from the GM. They can make cap and contract decisions without Schoen\u2019s input.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">It is pretty clear that Harbaugh wanted his own person in the front office to handle contracts and manage the salary cap. Aponte will do that, meaning Schoen no longer has authority over those things. Aponte will also likely be Harbaugh\u2019s front office eyes and ears.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Schoen is no longer driving the bus.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Richard Meyer asks: I am happy with the hiring of Harbaugh, but we must remember he was fired at his last job. I wonder if the reason is that he is rigid &#8211; he only hires people from his prior job. He has not changed defensive\/offensive schemes He seems not to have any ability to be flexible in changing game patterns. Is this true?<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Ed says: Richard, yes, John Harbaugh was fired by the Baltimore Ravens. After 18 highly-successful seasons. The man\u2019s teams made the playoffs 12 times, won a Super Bowl, and had only three losing seasons. Last I checked, that\u2019s a pretty good rate of success.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">He only hires coaches from his previous job? He hired 31 coaches for the Giants. There are 15 on staff who worked with him previously. That\u2019s half. He could have brought others, and chose not to.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">He hasn\u2019t changed schemes? In 18 seasons, Harbaugh had seven different coordinators on offense and defense. You honestly believe the scheme never changed in all that time? Harbaugh has core beliefs that don\u2019t change. That doesn\u2019t mean the schemes don\u2019t change and evolve as the coaches and players change and evolve.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Harbaugh\u2019s Baltimore teams have fallen short in some big spots in recent years. I doubt there is one specific reason for that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Ben Bolger asks: Could you give me an idea of what exactly are the responsibilities of the run game and passing game coordinators? I feel like these are relatively new titles. In a chain of command do they slot below OC and above position coaches? <\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Ed says: Ben, that\u2019s kind of a moving target. Many teams now have run and pass game coordinators on both offense and defense, and I think the role means something different on every coaching staff.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Those run and pass game coordinator titles slot below the overall coordinator. They are responsible for a piece of the puzzle, while the coordinator is responsible for putting together the entire puzzle. Those run and pass game coordinators are often position coaches with an additional title. For the Giants, Charlie Bullen has \u201cdefensive run game coordinator\u201d added to his job as outside linebackers coach.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Sometimes those titles are \u201cceremonial,\u201d just meant to prop up a coach\u2019s resume, get him more money, and keep him on staff. On some staffs, they have real meaning and real responsibilities. Whether that involves studying opponents, game-planning, helping to build schemes, grading and working with personnel in that area of expertise depends on what the head coach and overall coordinator are looking for.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Jaymanjay asks: Please explain to me why Tate is considered worthy of the 5th pick in the draft? There is only one position where need can trump value at a specific draft slot and that\u2019s QB. Nabers was selected 6th overall. He was a number one WR that had 89 receptions and over 1500 yards and 14 TDs in a dominant season. Tate had 50 something rec under 900 yards and 9 TD. These two players are not in the same stratosphere of talent. <\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">But since everyone thinks we need a WR just take the best one available even if in any other draft he would be a second round guy? I hope the Giants can sign Alec Pierce because 5th overall for Tate is just too rich. <\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Ed says: Jay, this is really a question buried inside a rant. I am not really a fan of those and often pass on answering them, but I will tackle this one because Carnell Tate is a legitimate consideration at No. 5.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">First and foremost, Tate is considered a top 10 talent and the top wide receiver in the class by most draft analysts. Secondly, positional value matters in the NFL when it comes to allocating your resources and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rotoballer.com\/ranking-the-nfls-most-valuable-positions-from-quarterback-to-long-snapper\/1327308\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">wide receiver is considered one of the premium positions<\/a> teams will commit major resources to. Explosive plays win games in the NFL. Wide receivers make a lot of those explosive plays. Third, the Giants have a clear need at the position. Most top NFL offenses have more than one game-changing wide receiver. The Giants do not.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Now, I have the same thought \u2014 if he isn\u2019t as a good a prospect as Nabers, how can you draft Tate higher? Reality is, every draft is different. There is only one quarterback likely to be selected in the top five. Several of the other players who might be considered worthy of that pick \u2014 safety Caleb Downs, running back Jerimayah Love, guard Vega Ioane, off-ball linebacker Sonny Styles to name a few \u2014 play positions not considered to have as much overall value to winning and losing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">I have been case-building for Downs, but to take him at No. 5 rather than a wide receiver or offensive tackle you do truly have to believe he is an exception to the rule.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Doug Mollin asks: Signing Eluemunor or not seems to be one of the biggest offseason forks in the road for the Giants. There are 5 right tackles in the NFL making $22-28M. There are another 5 making about $18M. Then another 7 making about $16M. Like it or not, free agency resets the market almost every year and almost at every position.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">If Eluemunor wants to be paid north of $21M, it probably is too rich. But his \u201cfair market value\u201d does certainly seem to be in the $16-18M range. That would pay him like a mid tier RT, which he is IMO. If Eluemunor walks, it probably means a RT at #5 instead of Downs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Would you rather have Eluemunor at $17M a year and Downs? Or $17M to spend on another spot and Mauigoa?<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Ed says: Honestly, I would take Eluemunor and draft Downs in this scenario. I hate the idea of paying Eluemunor that much money. I hate the idea of creating a hole you would have to fill another way even more.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Jerry Terry asks: Ed, I know you don\u2019t talk about yourself much, but this question is for you specifically. You brought up retirement occasionally over the past couple of years. We know about your LONG round trip drive to the stadium. The continuous losing surely hasn\u2019t helped. <\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">So my question is this: Did the Harbaugh hire change how you feel about your retirement plans, whenever that may be? I know for me, my eyes opened wide and I did not get much work done for a week. The energy and enthusiasm are palpable. BBV is lit up like a Christmas Tree. <\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Did this watershed moment in our Giants history, which may very well lead to a decade of good football, change how you feel about the future longevity of your tenure here? <\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Ed says: Jerry, I don\u2019t mind answering a question like this. You guys come here every day, so sharing a little personal info is no big deal.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">I don\u2019t know that the hiring of John Harbaugh will change my retirement timeline, not that I even have a firm one at this point. I do not. I\u2019m 65. I reach full retirement benefits at 67 and, health-permitting, doubt I would retire before then. Maybe I keep going for a while after that. We\u2019ll see.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">I have jokingly been telling people for a while now that I want to cover a good football team again before I retire. The mechanics of the job are basically the same win or lose. Covering a winning team, though, is a lot more fun than covering a losing one. Just like rooting for a team that wins is more fun.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">I have never covered a Super Bowl. The \u201cgoing out on top\u201d scenario for me might be covering a Super Bowl and then calling it a day. I will admit to having thought about that, especially since Harbaugh joined the Giants.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">You guys are stuck with me, though, for at least a little bit longer.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Have a Giants-related question? E-mail it to bigblueview@gmail.com and it might be featured in our weekly mailbag.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Chris Hynes asks: Obviously with Harbaugh coming in, there are going to be many moving parts, do you&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":365192,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[7,14308,6],"class_list":{"0":"post-767133","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-nfl","8":"tag-football","9":"tag-new-york-giants-mailbag","10":"tag-nfl"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/channels.im\/@nfl\/116109710122833035","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/767133","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=767133"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/767133\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/365192"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=767133"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=767133"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nfl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=767133"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}