{"id":674452,"date":"2026-09-29T17:21:13","date_gmt":"2026-09-29T17:21:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nhl\/674452\/"},"modified":"2026-09-29T17:21:13","modified_gmt":"2026-09-29T17:21:13","slug":"early-trading-dreger-details-how-the-marchenko-knies-trade-went-down","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rawchili.com\/nhl\/674452\/","title":{"rendered":"Early Trading: Dreger details how the Marchenko-Knies trade went down"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph\">Gino Reda: It\u2019s opening day of the NHL regular season. So will Marchenko play? Updates on Hellebuyck and Larkin, and get ready for an equipment crackdown of the league? What could that look like? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">With the details, here\u2019s our insider Darren Dreger. Dregs, Leaf fans are dying to know if <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/kirill-marchenko\/8480893\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/kirill-marchenko\/8480893\" target=\"_blank\">Kirill Marchenko<\/a> will make his debut tonight, if he can. But that\u2019s a huge process, much like the huge process it took to get this deal done.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">Darren Dreger: Yeah, the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/team-page\/toronto-maple-leafs\/10\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/team-page\/toronto-maple-leafs\/10\" target=\"_blank\">Toronto Maple Leafs<\/a> likewise, eagerly awaiting the immigration process to clear <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/kirill-marchenko\/8480893\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/kirill-marchenko\/8480893\" target=\"_blank\">Kirill Marchenko<\/a> to play in the home opener against the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/team-page\/montreal-canadiens\/8\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/team-page\/montreal-canadiens\/8\" target=\"_blank\">Montreal Canadiens<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">When you look back at this process, as you\u2019ve described, it was a lengthy one between Don Waddell, the general manager of the Blue Jackets, and John Chayka of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/team-page\/toronto-maple-leafs\/10\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/team-page\/toronto-maple-leafs\/10\" target=\"_blank\">Toronto Maple Leafs<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">The Leafs have had an eye on Marchenko for quite some time. And it was always about Knies and Marchenko, but Waddell and the Blue Jackets had to get to a place where they felt that the time was right to move a valued player. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">It\u2019s not like Waddell and Columbus are simply waving the white towel here and saying \u201cOur playoff aspirations are behind us.\u201d Columbus needed a player, real players to make this deal work. And they certainly get that with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/matthew-knies\/8482720\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/matthew-knies\/8482720\" target=\"_blank\">Matthew Knies<\/a> heading the package out of Toronto to Columbus. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">But why did it take so long? It took until literally 3 o\u2019clock Monday afternoon Eastern to close on this deal. And then you had the final touches on the extension [for] Marchenko [with] the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/team-page\/toronto-maple-leafs\/10\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/team-page\/toronto-maple-leafs\/10\" target=\"_blank\">Toronto Maple Leafs<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">But look at the bigger parameters of this. It\u2019s not just about making the money work for both clubs. It\u2019s about the number of contracts with six players in play. That had to match, going out of Toronto and going into Columbus and vice versa. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">You had the LTIR issues with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/elvis-merzlikins\/8478007\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/elvis-merzlikins\/8478007\" target=\"_blank\">Elvis Merzlikins<\/a>. You had the tagging rule. You had all kinds of rules that had to be used to get this deal over the line. So credit to Chayka and Waddell for having the persistence to get this thing done.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">Reda: You mentioned the immigration issues &#8211; is this just a matter of, as we record this right now, it\u2019s not done yet, but it could be done at any moment, so we just wait and see?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">Dreger: You wait and see. Look, we\u2019ve all had immigration issues. None of us with the support of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/team-page\/toronto-maple-leafs\/10\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/team-page\/toronto-maple-leafs\/10\" target=\"_blank\">Toronto Maple Leafs<\/a>, I don\u2019t think. So maybe there\u2019s a string or two. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">Not suggesting that\u2019s what they\u2019re going to do here, but my understanding is that process with Marchenko and immigration started early this morning around 9 a.m. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">So there\u2019s a chance that he\u2019s in the lineup and the Maple Leafs are hoping, the fan base is hoping that it\u2019s better than a chance and he will be in the lineup, but we should know that as the day unfolds.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">Reda: All right, let\u2019s move on to some other key issues. Fans in Winnipeg and Detroit have to be wondering how much longer they have to wait to see their big deal get done. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">Let\u2019s start with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/connor-hellebuyck\/8476945\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/connor-hellebuyck\/8476945\" target=\"_blank\">Connor Hellebuyck<\/a>. What\u2019s it going to take to get something done with him?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">Dreger: Somebody\u2019s going to have to step up. That\u2019s the bottom line. And it has to be a club that either maybe unfortunately suffers an injury in a primary goaltending position or just goes, you know what, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/connor-hellebuyck\/8476945\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/connor-hellebuyck\/8476945\" target=\"_blank\">Connor Hellebuyck<\/a> is too juicy of an upgrade for us not to pay a price that we don\u2019t love, but a price that the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/team-page\/winnipeg-jets\/52\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/team-page\/winnipeg-jets\/52\" target=\"_blank\">Winnipeg Jets<\/a> can live with. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">I\u2019m telling you right now, and I think I\u2019ve been consistent in saying this all along, because the Jets have been willing to be patient, they\u2019re not willing to just cave and say, \u201cOkay, we will take a futures-driven return.\u201d That\u2019s not the reality for Winnipeg. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">So they\u2019re going to continue to be patient in this process, even though their star goaltender is on the sideline. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">But as you get to this point, on the cusp of the opening night for the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/team-page\/winnipeg-jets\/52\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/team-page\/winnipeg-jets\/52\" target=\"_blank\">Winnipeg Jets<\/a>, then it becomes real financially for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/connor-hellebuyck\/8476945\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/connor-hellebuyck\/8476945\" target=\"_blank\">Connor Hellebuyck<\/a>, who\u2019s set to lose around $38,000 and change per day under suspension if he doesn\u2019t report or a deal isn\u2019t made. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">Winnipeg isn\u2019t ready to buckle just yet, and they don\u2019t feel like they have to. They\u2019ve got confidence in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/stuart-skinner\/8479973\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/stuart-skinner\/8479973\" target=\"_blank\">Stuart Skinner<\/a>. I\u2019m sure we\u2019re going to talk about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/clay-stevenson\/8483532\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/clay-stevenson\/8483532\" target=\"_blank\">Clay Stevenson<\/a>, who they picked up on waivers. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">It\u2019s not a perfect world in Winnipeg, certainly not perfect for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/connor-hellebuyck\/8476945\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/connor-hellebuyck\/8476945\" target=\"_blank\">Connor Hellebuyck<\/a>. But I think we can all understand why they need value in return for a star goalie.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">Reda: Okay, so what\u2019s the latest out of Detroit in terms of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/dylan-larkin\/8477946\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/dylan-larkin\/8477946\" target=\"_blank\">Dylan Larkin<\/a>?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">Dreger: Well, that waiting game continues as well. Different set of circumstances, that\u2019s pretty clear, with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/dylan-larkin\/8477946\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/dylan-larkin\/8477946\" target=\"_blank\">Dylan Larkin<\/a> reporting to camp and he\u2019s set to go for the regular season. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">It\u2019s not a perfect case, but he\u2019s a leader. He\u2019s been a decorated leader for the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/team-page\/detroit-red-wings\/17\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/team-page\/detroit-red-wings\/17\" target=\"_blank\">Detroit Red Wings<\/a> for some time. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">It sounds quiet on the trade front. So all that is left is for Todd McCollum, the head coach of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/team-page\/detroit-red-wings\/17\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/team-page\/detroit-red-wings\/17\" target=\"_blank\">Detroit Red Wings<\/a>, to try and get everyone to buy in right out of the gate, right out of puck drop. And maybe something surfaces again. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">Maybe there\u2019s an injury with a club that Larkin is willing to waive [his no movement clause] to go to where that team says \u201cOkay, we\u2019ll give you this.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">And that\u2019s enough for interim general manager Sean Horcoff and ownership in Detroit to make the deal happen. But that\u2019s not where we\u2019re at as we\u2019re having this conversation this morning. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">It\u2019s not perfect, I keep saying that as we do this segment. But it\u2019s the best of a bad situation with Larkin still in camp, willing to play and Horcoff continuing to kick tires and trying to [find] trade that makes sense.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">Reda: Meanwhile, on the ice, as we mentioned, the regular season opens tonight. The league has reminded players of the equipment crackdown. What\u2019s that going to look like? Are we going to just see a rash of penalties?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">Dreger: I don\u2019t think we\u2019ll see a rash of penalties, but are we going to see some penalties for equipment violations? I think we will see some. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">We\u2019re talking about visors. We\u2019re talking about the proper use of neck guards. We\u2019re talking about the helmet rule. And we\u2019re talking about the proper wearing of the sweater &#8211; the jersey, as they call it in the United States. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">We saw that penalty called on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/trevor-zegras\/8481533\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/player\/trevor-zegras\/8481533\" target=\"_blank\">Trevor Zegras<\/a> from the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/team-page\/philadelphia-flyers\/4\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.tsn.ca\/nhl\/team-page\/philadelphia-flyers\/4\" target=\"_blank\">Philadelphia Flyers<\/a>. Look, he was warned a couple of times to untuck the sweater and he didn\u2019t do that. And then, ultimately, he was called for a penalty. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">People are wondering, \u201cWell, why is the NHL cracking down on this now?\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">Really it\u2019s a combination of things, but primarily it is a safety issue. We can appreciate that with the visor rule again being in place since I believe 2013, 2014. Wear the visor properly. The helmet rule, wear it properly with the chin strap. The neck guard &#8211; isn\u2019t it obvious? It has to be worn properly. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">So those are the primary safety concerns, [and the league may be lenient] with the sweater, but there\u2019s also some safety considerations that go along with a uniform look and how you wear the sweater over the pant properly. So we\u2019ll see lots of warnings. We could see penalties.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">Reda: Players are always looking to just push the envelope just a little bit for comfort\u2019s sake and then the look as well.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Gino Reda: It\u2019s opening day of the NHL regular season. So will Marchenko play? 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