All-22 view into Sunday’s loss. In particular, all of Mitch’s missed opportunities. Sorry, for the poor snippets, first time trying this out.
September 21, 2022
All-22 view into Sunday’s loss. In particular, all of Mitch’s missed opportunities. Sorry, for the poor snippets, first time trying this out.
15 comments
First play to Chase Claypool would’ve been a hospital pass. Would’ve hit Claypool between the hash marks around the 34 yard line, and he would’ve been absolutely domed by the safety.
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I like where your head is at but we can’t armchair QB this thang with the all 22 we’re better than that. Do I think Mitch needs to look around more? Yes
Do I think Kenny would’ve made those throws? It doesn’t matter but I have enjoyed the way he has delivered the ball when it doesn’t matter.
Mitch is still our QB1 until he isn’t and give him your positive energy
Not sure why people are upset about you posting this, interesting at least. Yes, were not coaches, but we understand football to a degree and can see open receivers. Thanks for posting
Good and informative post, appreciate it man.
I feel like the 5th picture is such an indictment on Canada’s play calling and Trubisky’s decisions. Just drop back into zone with guys covering each part of the field 6 yards from the LoS. Boom you just stopped the Steeler’s offense.
Thanks for showing hard evidence for something we’ve all been suspecting and talking about all week
Slide #3…Chase wasn’t open, Muth was.
Slide #4…Dionte was open but corralled. Najee was the obvious choice because the defender was trying to catch up.
Slide #5 , all defenders were headed towards Dionte. The check down only had one person to eat for a big gain.
Slide #6, 9mm again….yeah…they were “technically” open, but look at the defenders directly behind them.
Slide #7, the most “open” guy was the guy towards the bottom at the 26 yard line.
Slide #11, look at the defense…on the right side, the corner and the safety was there for the guy going deep, the other guy in front of the guy breaking(still on the right) was playing zone, Dionte was double covered. The only option WAS the check down.
Slide #12. Pickens was not “wide open” he was actually double covered. Once again…look at the defense… the two guys immediately around Pickens were just waiting for Mitch to throw it there. They were in good position to break off their guy and converge on George.
Slide #12, Pickens was STARTING to break free… but…what was the route he was supposed to run? Was it an In route? A post? A go? Was it a read? We don’t know.
The rest of the slides? I will give you the benefit of the doubt… but you know what? You’re not the person trying to make these decisions in 3 seconds. You are looking at a still picture from the past and making claims that aren’t necessarily there.
And no, I am not a Mitch Trubisky ball washer…but I do think a lot of you are overreacting.
With this narrative being consistent from last year, do we think the OC is specifically directing Mitch to not go to the middle of the field at all? Does anyone have proof of Mitch doing this same thing in the past? Ultimately, who do we shit on when this continues to happen?
I also watched the All 22 and it was interesting. We had receivers open in the middle of the field on multiple occasions that you have highlighted here. They also had a safety in the middle of the field quite a bit which, as far as I understand, generally changes the QBs reads and progressions away from the middle of the field stuff. Not sure how much the presnap read dictates some of those quick checkdowns.
These are SO frustrating, but not for the reason you think. In most of these pics, the ball has already been thrown. You REALLY need to see the video or the look a second before the ball is thrown, when the decision is made. My other comment would be that just because no one is *on* a receiver doesn’t mean they’re open; they can be sandwiched high and low in a way that makes getting the ball there impossible, more so on short routes than long routes.
I’m not saying Mitch was good on Sunday, but if anything most of these pics show me bad route design. That 4th or 5th pic shows 4 receivers in about a 20 square yard area. If you figure they’re all guarded, that’s 8 people in 20 sq yds… or about the size of a living room.
Edit: I went back and looked, it is the 4th picture. Also, there were FIVE Pats in that area. Lastly, Najee was the only one getting separation upfield (Johnson was crossing), so I think throwing to Najee was the right call. Just needed to be 1-2 yards further.
Thing that I noticed the most watching all 22s of last weeks game is that if primary reciver is not open at the exact moment the play calls for then Mitch immediately goes to check down. Doesnt give the play time to develop, doesnt look at his second and third options.
But then again, Im not sure our line is really giving him the time neccesary to make it to his second and third reads. And so when I watch him get sacked and think “why the fuck did he not check the ball down sooner” I suddenly look back at all the check downs a bit more fondly. After all, +2 yds on a dump off is better than -2 on a scrambling sack.
My real question now is what was his o-line situation like in Chicago? Is this “quick toss to the primary or immediately check down to avoid the sack” too engrained of a behavior at this point to change?
WOW! I knew he missed a few but some of these are very very open and had multiple open pass catchers…I’ve always heard 3rd weeks the charm! 🙏
Thanks for the post, Matt.
I feel like In a lot of these that single high safety is in primo position to make the play or the pick. It looks open, but travel times sets up our receivers to having their targets picked off or get decapitated
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First play to Chase Claypool would’ve been a hospital pass. Would’ve hit Claypool between the hash marks around the 34 yard line, and he would’ve been absolutely domed by the safety.
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I like where your head is at but we can’t armchair QB this thang with the all 22 we’re better than that. Do I think Mitch needs to look around more? Yes
Do I think Kenny would’ve made those throws? It doesn’t matter but I have enjoyed the way he has delivered the ball when it doesn’t matter.
Mitch is still our QB1 until he isn’t and give him your positive energy
Not sure why people are upset about you posting this, interesting at least. Yes, were not coaches, but we understand football to a degree and can see open receivers. Thanks for posting
Good and informative post, appreciate it man.
I feel like the 5th picture is such an indictment on Canada’s play calling and Trubisky’s decisions. Just drop back into zone with guys covering each part of the field 6 yards from the LoS. Boom you just stopped the Steeler’s offense.
Thanks for showing hard evidence for something we’ve all been suspecting and talking about all week
Slide #3…Chase wasn’t open, Muth was.
Slide #4…Dionte was open but corralled. Najee was the obvious choice because the defender was trying to catch up.
Slide #5 , all defenders were headed towards Dionte. The check down only had one person to eat for a big gain.
Slide #6, 9mm again….yeah…they were “technically” open, but look at the defenders directly behind them.
Slide #7, the most “open” guy was the guy towards the bottom at the 26 yard line.
Slide #11, look at the defense…on the right side, the corner and the safety was there for the guy going deep, the other guy in front of the guy breaking(still on the right) was playing zone, Dionte was double covered. The only option WAS the check down.
Slide #12. Pickens was not “wide open” he was actually double covered. Once again…look at the defense… the two guys immediately around Pickens were just waiting for Mitch to throw it there. They were in good position to break off their guy and converge on George.
Slide #12, Pickens was STARTING to break free… but…what was the route he was supposed to run? Was it an In route? A post? A go? Was it a read? We don’t know.
The rest of the slides? I will give you the benefit of the doubt… but you know what? You’re not the person trying to make these decisions in 3 seconds. You are looking at a still picture from the past and making claims that aren’t necessarily there.
And no, I am not a Mitch Trubisky ball washer…but I do think a lot of you are overreacting.
With this narrative being consistent from last year, do we think the OC is specifically directing Mitch to not go to the middle of the field at all? Does anyone have proof of Mitch doing this same thing in the past? Ultimately, who do we shit on when this continues to happen?
I also watched the All 22 and it was interesting. We had receivers open in the middle of the field on multiple occasions that you have highlighted here. They also had a safety in the middle of the field quite a bit which, as far as I understand, generally changes the QBs reads and progressions away from the middle of the field stuff. Not sure how much the presnap read dictates some of those quick checkdowns.
These are SO frustrating, but not for the reason you think. In most of these pics, the ball has already been thrown. You REALLY need to see the video or the look a second before the ball is thrown, when the decision is made. My other comment would be that just because no one is *on* a receiver doesn’t mean they’re open; they can be sandwiched high and low in a way that makes getting the ball there impossible, more so on short routes than long routes.
I’m not saying Mitch was good on Sunday, but if anything most of these pics show me bad route design. That 4th or 5th pic shows 4 receivers in about a 20 square yard area. If you figure they’re all guarded, that’s 8 people in 20 sq yds… or about the size of a living room.
Edit: I went back and looked, it is the 4th picture. Also, there were FIVE Pats in that area. Lastly, Najee was the only one getting separation upfield (Johnson was crossing), so I think throwing to Najee was the right call. Just needed to be 1-2 yards further.
Thing that I noticed the most watching all 22s of last weeks game is that if primary reciver is not open at the exact moment the play calls for then Mitch immediately goes to check down. Doesnt give the play time to develop, doesnt look at his second and third options.
But then again, Im not sure our line is really giving him the time neccesary to make it to his second and third reads. And so when I watch him get sacked and think “why the fuck did he not check the ball down sooner” I suddenly look back at all the check downs a bit more fondly. After all, +2 yds on a dump off is better than -2 on a scrambling sack.
My real question now is what was his o-line situation like in Chicago? Is this “quick toss to the primary or immediately check down to avoid the sack” too engrained of a behavior at this point to change?
WOW! I knew he missed a few but some of these are very very open and had multiple open pass catchers…I’ve always heard 3rd weeks the charm! 🙏
Thanks for the post, Matt.
I feel like In a lot of these that single high safety is in primo position to make the play or the pick. It looks open, but travel times sets up our receivers to having their targets picked off or get decapitated