Chase Claypool, and the Problem of Soulless Aggregation
June 19, 2023
Chase Claypool, and the Problem of Soulless Aggregation
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The way people talk about this trade pisses me off so much. You’d think the Bears made the worst trade in nfl history by the way r/nfl talks about it. And so many fans (mainly steeler fans) are so eager for Chase to flop on his face. Dude can’t even get a fresh start without the media and fans dragging him through the mud. Like the article says, even if he catches a TD week 1 against the Pack, no one will care. Bc that’s just how the media works. Shit sucks
Two things I absolutely hate by those that defend the deal:
1. GB could have traded for him so we needed to!
2. (from the article) If wasting a second-round pick brings this building down, the structural integrity never existed at the start.
Look. The trade looks bad right now and Claypool nursing an injury ain’t helping. We need to give it time to play out this year. Claypool can ball out and change that narrative and shut everyone up and get himself an extension. That is absolutely possible.
That said I’m in the camp that doesn’t really see that happening. So if he does indeed play 1 full season with us that doesn’t warrant an extension it was indeed a terrible deal. Doesn’t mean Poles is a bum, it would mean this one trade was bad and hopefully he learns from it and we move on. At the same time you can’t just brush it off as “oh well it was a second rounder, no big deal”
Fantastic article! Worth the read.
The reality is, on an offense, no position asides QB is harder to learn a new scheme than WR. In fact, at times teams will amend their language and scheme to help the QB get a grasp of terminology quicker. This doesn’t exist with WR.
I’m completely in a wait and see approach with Claypool. I think it’s just as likely Claypool doesn’t work out as it is that Mooney wouldn’t. I also think it’s just as likely they both succeed.
Another reality that fans forget after the last two months is that this was a team with a bottom two WR corps in the league last year at the trade deadline. The WR FA market was incredibly light and there was a significant chance that this was our only opportunity to add a high risk high reward option to help Fields.
Obviously we were able to get DJ, but no one thought the Bears would even have the opportunity to get a WR of his skill level at that point.
I’m going to let at least a third of the season play out before I start worrying that either him or Mooney aren’t worthy of being resigned.
This is the best article on this topic and a just great case study in what is wrong with (internet) journalism altogether (inclusive of non-sports news).
I still think Silvy could have kept that to himself.
TL;DR – There is a mountain of content being made about a molehill of a problem. Any verdict on the trade will have to wait until January 2024.
If we kept our pick and somehow didn’t land the #1 overall pick to get D.J Moore, the we’d have no number 1 receiver.
At that point, you’re either gonna be banking on a rookie to be your #1 receiver or you’re sending a large bag to JuJu Smith-Schuster to bring him over here.
It’s a bad trade in hindsight but people would be critiquing the Bears if we didn’t have any good receivers and you’ll see articles about how Poles let Claypool go to Greenbay.
And before you comment, no I don’t think Claypool is a #1 receiver, but in a garbage FA and a week WR draft class, you have little options.
I’d rather have Mooney, Claypool, and D.J Moore than have Mooney, Dante Pettis and a rookie.
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The way people talk about this trade pisses me off so much. You’d think the Bears made the worst trade in nfl history by the way r/nfl talks about it. And so many fans (mainly steeler fans) are so eager for Chase to flop on his face. Dude can’t even get a fresh start without the media and fans dragging him through the mud. Like the article says, even if he catches a TD week 1 against the Pack, no one will care. Bc that’s just how the media works. Shit sucks
Two things I absolutely hate by those that defend the deal:
1. GB could have traded for him so we needed to!
2. (from the article) If wasting a second-round pick brings this building down, the structural integrity never existed at the start.
Look. The trade looks bad right now and Claypool nursing an injury ain’t helping. We need to give it time to play out this year. Claypool can ball out and change that narrative and shut everyone up and get himself an extension. That is absolutely possible.
That said I’m in the camp that doesn’t really see that happening. So if he does indeed play 1 full season with us that doesn’t warrant an extension it was indeed a terrible deal. Doesn’t mean Poles is a bum, it would mean this one trade was bad and hopefully he learns from it and we move on. At the same time you can’t just brush it off as “oh well it was a second rounder, no big deal”
Fantastic article! Worth the read.
The reality is, on an offense, no position asides QB is harder to learn a new scheme than WR. In fact, at times teams will amend their language and scheme to help the QB get a grasp of terminology quicker. This doesn’t exist with WR.
I’m completely in a wait and see approach with Claypool. I think it’s just as likely Claypool doesn’t work out as it is that Mooney wouldn’t. I also think it’s just as likely they both succeed.
Another reality that fans forget after the last two months is that this was a team with a bottom two WR corps in the league last year at the trade deadline. The WR FA market was incredibly light and there was a significant chance that this was our only opportunity to add a high risk high reward option to help Fields.
Obviously we were able to get DJ, but no one thought the Bears would even have the opportunity to get a WR of his skill level at that point.
I’m going to let at least a third of the season play out before I start worrying that either him or Mooney aren’t worthy of being resigned.
This is the best article on this topic and a just great case study in what is wrong with (internet) journalism altogether (inclusive of non-sports news).
I still think Silvy could have kept that to himself.
TL;DR – There is a mountain of content being made about a molehill of a problem. Any verdict on the trade will have to wait until January 2024.
If we kept our pick and somehow didn’t land the #1 overall pick to get D.J Moore, the we’d have no number 1 receiver.
At that point, you’re either gonna be banking on a rookie to be your #1 receiver or you’re sending a large bag to JuJu Smith-Schuster to bring him over here.
It’s a bad trade in hindsight but people would be critiquing the Bears if we didn’t have any good receivers and you’ll see articles about how Poles let Claypool go to Greenbay.
And before you comment, no I don’t think Claypool is a #1 receiver, but in a garbage FA and a week WR draft class, you have little options.
I’d rather have Mooney, Claypool, and D.J Moore than have Mooney, Dante Pettis and a rookie.