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[The Athletic] Corey Pronman’s NHL Pipeline Rankings: No. 8 Red Wings have a deep group of young talent

  • August 24, 2023


Quick hits:

> Detroit’s pipeline is led by a legit star in Moritz Seider. Following Seider it is a deep group of young talent at forward and defense with star upside in guys like Lucas Raymond and Nate Danielson. Detroit is in an interesting position because they have one of the best groups of young players in the league, but they are also ranked fourth in their division and didn’t make the playoffs last year. Thus, there is probably still more work to do.

> Key additions: Nate Danielson, Axel Sandin-Pellikka, Trey Augustine, Andrew Gibson

> Key subtractions: Filip Zadina

> Key graduates: Joe Veleno, Jonatan Berggren

> 2022 ranking: No. 2

> 2023 NHL Draft grade: B+

I’m a bit surprised to see us fall all the way from 2 to 8.

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  2. When he gives each players grade for each skill, like skating, puck skills and shot is he saying where they are right now in comparison to NHL players. Or where that skill set is projected to be?

    Because he has Axel Sandin-Pellikka as an average NHL skater, and if that’s what he projects him to be as a skater at the NHL level then I actually think Pronman may be an idiot and hasn’t watched him play. It is very very evident that this kid is an exceptional skater, even if you just watched one game.

    Edit: His default is just NHL average, like is that what does if he just doesn’t watch a player? Also how do you only grade a goalie on skating, and hockey sense? How about positioning? How about athleticism? Fuck if you really wanted you could grade them on their ability to play the puck. But only skating and hockey sense is just so low effort to me, I pay $1 a month and this article makes me feel ripped off. It’s not even the fact we’re only at 8th, it just screams low effort to me.

  3. I’m probably butt hurt biased but it’s hard to listen to 3 minutes about Tyler boucher after Corey’s so wishy washy about Mazur.

  4. It’s strange how he calls out star upside in Danielson, but then calls our draft grade B+.

    I struggle to see how our pool is 4th in our division as well? Toronto is depleted, same with Boston and Florida… he’s really saying Ottawa, Montreal, Tampa are above us??? I understand Buffalo and maybe Ottawa, but I don’t see how any other team jumps us.

    Although I don’t think Pronman has ever really been “nice” to us…

  6. It’s weird how last year’s #2 pipeline can add a “top of the lineup” center and then somehow fall to #8.

  7. I think it’s completely fair. This sub loves to get up in arms over critiques of our pool, but I’d encourage everyone to remember that this is a U23 ranking, not a prospect pool (as in, non NHLers). We’ve had some solid picks but having zero lottery luck for your entire rebuild will most often leave us a slight tick behind some others. It’s all going to be fine.

    There are going to be some teams with crazy talent at a u23 level that we can’t quite match at the moment since all our guys aren’t up and showing it yet. Some have talent equal to ours at NHL level, others have recent (and often multiple) top 3 picks, which is virtually *ALWAYS* going to bump your system. It’s okay, let’s just take a deep breath and enjoy what we’ve got despite not being the NHLs Lottery Golden Child™ like some other ~~organizations that facilitate sexual assault~~ teams.

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