[Zimmerman] In the 14-game stretch where Bears defense allowed 25+ points in every game, they’ve averaged allowing 33.4 PPG. If the Chiefs defense gave up 33 points in 14 straight games, the Chiefs would be 2-12. The Bears offense is literally in a can’t win situation.
October 4, 2023
[Zimmerman] In the 14-game stretch where Bears defense allowed 25+ points in every game, they’ve averaged allowing 33.4 PPG. If the Chiefs defense gave up 33 points in 14 straight games, the Chiefs would be 2-12. The Bears offense is literally in a can’t win situation.
Everyone knows a great QB will make their defense better and the defense has no effect on how the offense plays.
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True, but the Chiefs would be at a ‘near 0’ point differential while we’re at negative a billion. Both the offense and defense are problems on this team.
The offense is bad and the defense is atrocious.
Considering the amount of resources we’ve invested in the defense the last 2 years, this is comical.
Bears defense been getting killed on third and long.
It’s not as clear cut as this, as the two sides have a symbiotic relationship. Take the Tampa game – The offense could not stay on the field to even get a first down. As such the D was on the field all game, which results in more points against. I’m not saying the D isn’t bad. I’m saying both are bad and one can make other worse. Being bad is a team sport!
Now do the number of three and outs by the offenses for the Bears and Chiefs over that period.
Look I am not saying our D is good. But I think it’s fair to say our O puts our D in bad spots …. and our D puts our O in bad spots.
Cherry-picking a single stat only focusing on one side of the ball is lazy.
For example, the D vs. Denver had nothing to do with 7 of the points being scored on them with Justin’s fumble. So technically they only gave up 24 lol
JF1s fault
Ehhhhhh
If the other team scored more, KCs offense would get more time on the field, and their scores would be higher. Plus they’d air it out more and play for late game scores instead of running out the clock.
You can’t mix and match stats like this, it exaggerates our offensive success and undervalues theirs.
Now do a stat about how the defense is in a can’t win situation when the QB is a 3 and out machine that averages 150 passing yards per game
#YUP
Yeah… The offense has put the D in some bad spots… on the other hand…
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Take last week when Flus decided to go for it instead of take the points. He knew, just as everyone in the stadium knew, that the Defense was NEVER going to get a stop. So he went of the Win instead of the tie. Which was a good choice imo, even though it failed.
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Biggest issue was right after that turn over on downs…. IF you had a real defense You could have STILL won the game. instead what happens… The defense give up a 50 yard pass on a blow coverage THE NEXT PLAY.
The bears have had 0 turn overs(not counting the two against KC’s backup QB), 2 sacks, and they are allowing 3rd down conversions at 60+% and that was in a game where the other teams offense gave you false starts on third and short like 4 damn times… Seriously…
HOW can you allow an offense to go from a 3-2 to 3-7 AND STILL CONVERT EVERY DAMN TIME.
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I never thought it say this but they should have just left Sanborn to play LB and saved their damn money. Those new guys are totally f-ing useless.
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I think Edmonds had a 22 PFF score last week. That’s your 90 million dollar off-season signing. Nice f-ing job poles.
Have they tried picking themselves up by their bootstraps? I hear that’s the only way to help yourselves when against the odds.
And he said even if you take away pick 6s and fumble 6s or special teams TDs it’s still over 30 PPG and the chiefs would be 3-11
Okay but how can we make this Justin Fields’ fault?
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We don’t want the bears offense in a “win” situation. We want them to look like a competent offense. There would be nothing better for us this year than an 0-17 year, losing every game something like 45-42, something like that.
We invested so much into the offense, an offense that was pretty decent on occasion last year, and made mid moves on defense.
I was very much hoping that we could invest the two top 5 picks we’ll have next year, and pretty much the rest of our draft, in defensive studs and maybe MHJ.
Game 4 turned out to be what I hoped this season would end up being. Games 1-3 though, wtf?
Hoping the rest of our season is similar to game 4.
Don’t care if the coaches get fired friday morning or end of the season. Either one works.
Thats not a fair stat. Eberflus needs more time, innovation isn’t an overnight thing. He’s building something special.
Did we just find the “why’s”?
This has been extremely obvious for over a year now. If your defense cannot pressure/sack the QB and they don’t create turnovers then the only way they get off the field is by giving up points.
The reality is the defense is terrible.
i bet we havent invested draft capital or free agent money into the D for 2 years. i mean, our amazing coaches cant do anything if u dont go out and get the players they want otherwise theyd just point fingers at the players
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Poles traded our best defender, signed no one of quality to the most important positions on a defense, doesn’t sign our only DE that got sacks, and Flus gets all the blame for not developing second round picks to be better.
Well thats why we got a defensive coach to solve that problem… wait
Don’t worry. Our defensive savior Eberflus will figure it out one day.
I can’t believe how delusional this is, it’s obviously Fields inexperience and poor understanding of Football in general. Once the new coach drafts his ideal QB we will be fine.
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…yep
[Even with taking away defensive/ST TDs they’re allowing 30.4 ppg. Chiefs would still be 3-11.](https://x.com/billtzimmerman/status/1709564587719156047?s=46&t=IRGsZCCjwMpIrPz0wyNydg)
Neat
All they have to do is focus more
Come on. This is just blatant Fields d riding.
Everyone knows a great QB will make their defense better and the defense has no effect on how the offense plays.
/s
True, but the Chiefs would be at a ‘near 0’ point differential while we’re at negative a billion. Both the offense and defense are problems on this team.
The offense is bad and the defense is atrocious.
Considering the amount of resources we’ve invested in the defense the last 2 years, this is comical.
Bears defense been getting killed on third and long.
It’s not as clear cut as this, as the two sides have a symbiotic relationship. Take the Tampa game – The offense could not stay on the field to even get a first down. As such the D was on the field all game, which results in more points against. I’m not saying the D isn’t bad. I’m saying both are bad and one can make other worse. Being bad is a team sport!
Now do the number of three and outs by the offenses for the Bears and Chiefs over that period.
Look I am not saying our D is good. But I think it’s fair to say our O puts our D in bad spots …. and our D puts our O in bad spots.
Cherry-picking a single stat only focusing on one side of the ball is lazy.
For example, the D vs. Denver had nothing to do with 7 of the points being scored on them with Justin’s fumble. So technically they only gave up 24 lol
JF1s fault
Ehhhhhh
If the other team scored more, KCs offense would get more time on the field, and their scores would be higher. Plus they’d air it out more and play for late game scores instead of running out the clock.
You can’t mix and match stats like this, it exaggerates our offensive success and undervalues theirs.
Now do a stat about how the defense is in a can’t win situation when the QB is a 3 and out machine that averages 150 passing yards per game
#YUP
Yeah… The offense has put the D in some bad spots… on the other hand…
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Take last week when Flus decided to go for it instead of take the points. He knew, just as everyone in the stadium knew, that the Defense was NEVER going to get a stop. So he went of the Win instead of the tie. Which was a good choice imo, even though it failed.
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Biggest issue was right after that turn over on downs…. IF you had a real defense You could have STILL won the game. instead what happens… The defense give up a 50 yard pass on a blow coverage THE NEXT PLAY.
The bears have had 0 turn overs(not counting the two against KC’s backup QB), 2 sacks, and they are allowing 3rd down conversions at 60+% and that was in a game where the other teams offense gave you false starts on third and short like 4 damn times… Seriously…
HOW can you allow an offense to go from a 3-2 to 3-7 AND STILL CONVERT EVERY DAMN TIME.
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I never thought it say this but they should have just left Sanborn to play LB and saved their damn money. Those new guys are totally f-ing useless.
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I think Edmonds had a 22 PFF score last week. That’s your 90 million dollar off-season signing. Nice f-ing job poles.
Have they tried picking themselves up by their bootstraps? I hear that’s the only way to help yourselves when against the odds.
And he said even if you take away pick 6s and fumble 6s or special teams TDs it’s still over 30 PPG and the chiefs would be 3-11
Okay but how can we make this Justin Fields’ fault?
/s
We don’t want the bears offense in a “win” situation. We want them to look like a competent offense. There would be nothing better for us this year than an 0-17 year, losing every game something like 45-42, something like that.
We invested so much into the offense, an offense that was pretty decent on occasion last year, and made mid moves on defense.
I was very much hoping that we could invest the two top 5 picks we’ll have next year, and pretty much the rest of our draft, in defensive studs and maybe MHJ.
Game 4 turned out to be what I hoped this season would end up being. Games 1-3 though, wtf?
Hoping the rest of our season is similar to game 4.
Don’t care if the coaches get fired friday morning or end of the season. Either one works.
Thats not a fair stat. Eberflus needs more time, innovation isn’t an overnight thing. He’s building something special.
Did we just find the “why’s”?
This has been extremely obvious for over a year now. If your defense cannot pressure/sack the QB and they don’t create turnovers then the only way they get off the field is by giving up points.
The reality is the defense is terrible.
i bet we havent invested draft capital or free agent money into the D for 2 years. i mean, our amazing coaches cant do anything if u dont go out and get the players they want otherwise theyd just point fingers at the players
/s
Poles traded our best defender, signed no one of quality to the most important positions on a defense, doesn’t sign our only DE that got sacks, and Flus gets all the blame for not developing second round picks to be better.
Well thats why we got a defensive coach to solve that problem… wait
Don’t worry. Our defensive savior Eberflus will figure it out one day.
I can’t believe how delusional this is, it’s obviously Fields inexperience and poor understanding of Football in general. Once the new coach drafts his ideal QB we will be fine.
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