Am I crazy, or is this not an excellent throw from Fields that only Moore could catch? Feels like everyone is saying they were lucky this wasn’t 6 the other way but I see no way this ball is caught by anyone other than Moore
October 9, 2023
Am I crazy, or is this not an excellent throw from Fields that only Moore could catch? Feels like everyone is saying they were lucky this wasn’t 6 the other way but I see no way this ball is caught by anyone other than Moore
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Commanders selling out for the blitz, Moore 1-on-1, high throw that is either tipped out of bounds or high pointed by Moore… Like, where exactly is the pick potential?
This is what I love about Dj the most, he catches everything, it’s like his hands are a suction cup for the football, watching that ravens game yesterday made me gain a lot more appreciation that’s he’s on our team
If Mahomes threw that ball there would be 500 different analyses about how this was perfect. But that’s because he’s built credibility.
Fields hasn’t. So people are going to wonder if he got lucky. It’s fine. He’s got 12 more games to show it wasn’t a fluke.
Absolutely. Every other throw to DJ like this hit him in the chest. Fields clearly saw the corner was about to jump the route and adjusted his throw accordingly. That being said given the situation it might have been a better idea to go to the next read or just sail that oob cuz it was a dangerous throw that could have led to a pick 6.
Good ball but id like to see him throw it earlier. Any later and its a pick. Its not so much placement but timing
That’s an NFL throw. One of the knocks on Fields earlier this season was he was only throwing to guys that were “college open”…this was a great throw
when i first watched it live i made the same assumption that it was lucky. When i watched the replay you can see that it was great timing and trust by moore + fields. Moore had created really good separation and the defender was beat on the throw. The luck part of the play was the defender making the choice to either recover and tackle, which would have stopped a td, or try and make an athletic gamble and tip or intercept the ball. This was a good throw and catch that resulted in Moore being a great playmaker to get a td
The one and only fair criticism I’ve seen of those pass is that it was late. Fortunately, that was offset by perfect placement and excellent velocity.
Would like to see him throw this with a little more anticipation, but I’m hoping that comes with time. It’s easier to trust that your guy is going to be open on this after you actually see him get open a few times. I imagine 2 years of watching ESB and Dante Pettis try to create separation is still seared in JF’s memory.
The ball could’ve came out earlier. Nothing wrong with acknowledging that
It’s a good throw by Fields, he was making them all night long when feeding the ball to DJ isolated in one-on-ones on the sideline. The suggestion he got lucky here is nonsense. Yes you could say that he could’ve thrown with a little more anticipation, but his placement on Thursday wasn’t an issue at all.
It was a high risk high reward throw. I don’t see how it would have been a pick six, but totally possible to be a breakup. Credit to Moor for seeing through the hand of the defender and making the play, but I don’t know if it was luck or skill that made the throw work.
Excellent throw. Awesome catch. Probably shouldn’t get in the habit of throwing the stop route so late though.
I said it from the jump. That was an A+ throw, an A+ catch and run, and A+ coverage. Where that ball was placed the best Fuller could do was get a fingertip on it. There was no way he could have picked that. His coverage was superb, his break on the ball was decisive and perfectly timed, but the placement was spot on. Moore’s concentration to catch that and flash response to take it upfield was also amazing. If that throw had a little less juice it would be a pick six. If the placement was off six inches in any direction it would have either been a pick or an incompletion. Just my 2 cents.
I thought the throw was late… but he put it in a perfect spot….
Fields special… Poor anticipation but makes up for it with insane arm strength and accuracy.
Watch the All-22. He still isn’t throwing with anticipation. Even on quick routes that he knows he is throwing. This specific throw was a great throw, but any mistake on placement here and its going the other way for 6 in a critical moment.
Football is a game of inches. I feel as if Fields has been so scared to see that 50/50 ball fail it has paralyzed him at times. And then the deer in headlights coverage sack happens.
He had that gun slinger mentality with Moore last week. He TRUSTED Moore would win.
If Fields can build a rapport with others , improvement will continue.
Ramsy or Warner take that back for six, you have to ask yourself who you want to beat.
Am I trippin where’s the ball at in the pic? I thought it was the guy in the yellow hats face at first then I thought it was t next to the guy with the black hat but now I’m just lost.
It’s a perfect throw because of the timing, if the db is a half second earlier that’s a pick 6.
I do think it was thrown where only DJ had a shot which is good. But I also think the defender got a huge jump on the ball because Fields stared down the route. I don’t so much think he got lucky it wasn’t picked so much as I think they were fortunate Moore didn’t get broken in half stretching out for that ball.
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If he throws it sooner he doesn’t HAVE to throw it with such velocity.
I can’t remember which game it was yesterday but a qb threw an absolute piss missile on a 5 yard out route that receiver couldn’t get his hands on and the analyst said if the qb anticipates the throw better he doesn’t have to throw it that hard.
That’s why reading the field matters. The great ones make it look easy.
It was a good throw and a good catch but so much can go wrong on that throw. I think that’s why most people would take a qb that reads the field with an average arm over one that can’t with a cannon.
People were also saying Fuller shouldn’t have jumped that because he didn’t have Safety help. Obviously the score changes how aggressive DBs are gonna play but Fields had a lot of great throws both games
You’re not crazy. Even though Fuller was extremely aggressive, he couldn’t get a hand on it because of the high/away ball placement.
Maybe fortunate it wasn’t incomplete given how aggressive the CB was. But the ball placement definitely turned the high risk into high reward
The problem with these throws isn’t placement, but timing. Fields placed the throws well, but were constantly a half a tick late. Against better defenders, that half a tick is the different between a catch and a pass defended/INT.
It’s both, and we absolutely will get burned on one of those if we overdo them in future weeks.
The nice thing about stop routes is that they take advantage of coverage that is playing contain over the top, but the risk is that if they get jumped they can go the other way for six. These will continue to be effective if we mix them with deeper throws and double moves, though.
These are the throws we were begging fields to make a couple weeks ago and now that he’s doing it we are complaining and saying they’re bad throws.
Regardless of the perfect placement, the ball was a bit wobbly and probably should have came out sooner (if I remember correctly). QB school guy didn’t like the lack of anticipation in these couple of throws to Moore.
But oh well, they worked. This is the kind of stuff you do with a WR1
Even if it’s a tad late, I’m glad he’s at least attempting these throws. It’s a good first step from just standing there patting the ball; hopefully as he gets more comfortable, he’ll be quicker on the draw.
It was really close, and the defender jumped it. Every QB has those throws, though. The ball placement was good IMO as it was high, so DJ had a better shot at it.
If anything this was a poorly thrown ball. If this had been in the numbers it woulda been a pick 6.
Everyone talking about how the CB gambled and we capitalized on it. No the CB jumped the route perfectly because he knows fields wont throw to anyone else and didnt anticipate the ball being thrown to Shaq
Had he thrown it in the numbers like it shoulda been that woulda been 30-27 scoreline and we prolly go on to lose the game.
Watch the ALL22. Its a shit pass that he got extremely lucky on
At the NFL level, every pass is kinda almost a pick 6? Every other throw Purdy flings one that’s almost picked off for a huge gain for SF.
Decent throw, bad play by the defender
Hopefully I don’t get downvoted to hell for this, but I thought Mooney slowed on the tail end of the route (which is something we’ve said about him in the past) and he turned awkwardly to catch it a bit early. I thought it was a great ball and had that been Moore it would’ve been a catch.
Only risk was a tip, not a pick. Maybe a hair late, buy you can place it any better.
It’s a bit of both. The most rational criticism I’ve seen was from O’Sullivan, he replayed Fields taking two extra steps before he threw when it should’ve been a split second sooner. So it was a little of that hesitation with his feet that we see almost every play.
It was really close to a pick 6. Too close for comfort but sometimes in the NFL, the window is that tight. I think it’s ok to take risks.
It was a horribley inaccurate ball he got lucky wasn’t yet another 4th quarter pick 6.
The earlier touchdown to Moore in the corner was a perfectly placed ball.
In JT O’Sullivans’s breakdown this week, he points out how Fields still threw this pass a little late, making it so that he had to make the “perfect throw”; whereas if he’d thrown a tick earlier, it would have been a much easier completion even if it’s not perfect.
It’s not that Fields can’t make this throw. It’s that he’s making things harder on himself by not learning to throw with anticipation. Moore got a few yards of separation on his stop AND Justin made a perfect throw. If not for both of those things, it is a breakup if not a pick 6. However, Fields throwing earlier gives him more room for error in case both of those things aren’t true.
Justin having a big arm is not a question. Whether or not Justin can actually become a good QB that makes this an easier competition as opposed to the “oh no…*cringe*…YES!!!’ play it became is the question.
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Commanders selling out for the blitz, Moore 1-on-1, high throw that is either tipped out of bounds or high pointed by Moore… Like, where exactly is the pick potential?
This is what I love about Dj the most, he catches everything, it’s like his hands are a suction cup for the football, watching that ravens game yesterday made me gain a lot more appreciation that’s he’s on our team
If Mahomes threw that ball there would be 500 different analyses about how this was perfect. But that’s because he’s built credibility.
Fields hasn’t. So people are going to wonder if he got lucky. It’s fine. He’s got 12 more games to show it wasn’t a fluke.
Absolutely. Every other throw to DJ like this hit him in the chest. Fields clearly saw the corner was about to jump the route and adjusted his throw accordingly. That being said given the situation it might have been a better idea to go to the next read or just sail that oob cuz it was a dangerous throw that could have led to a pick 6.
Good ball but id like to see him throw it earlier. Any later and its a pick. Its not so much placement but timing
That’s an NFL throw. One of the knocks on Fields earlier this season was he was only throwing to guys that were “college open”…this was a great throw
when i first watched it live i made the same assumption that it was lucky. When i watched the replay you can see that it was great timing and trust by moore + fields. Moore had created really good separation and the defender was beat on the throw. The luck part of the play was the defender making the choice to either recover and tackle, which would have stopped a td, or try and make an athletic gamble and tip or intercept the ball. This was a good throw and catch that resulted in Moore being a great playmaker to get a td
The one and only fair criticism I’ve seen of those pass is that it was late. Fortunately, that was offset by perfect placement and excellent velocity.
Would like to see him throw this with a little more anticipation, but I’m hoping that comes with time. It’s easier to trust that your guy is going to be open on this after you actually see him get open a few times. I imagine 2 years of watching ESB and Dante Pettis try to create separation is still seared in JF’s memory.
The ball could’ve came out earlier. Nothing wrong with acknowledging that
It’s a good throw by Fields, he was making them all night long when feeding the ball to DJ isolated in one-on-ones on the sideline. The suggestion he got lucky here is nonsense. Yes you could say that he could’ve thrown with a little more anticipation, but his placement on Thursday wasn’t an issue at all.
It was a high risk high reward throw. I don’t see how it would have been a pick six, but totally possible to be a breakup. Credit to Moor for seeing through the hand of the defender and making the play, but I don’t know if it was luck or skill that made the throw work.
Excellent throw. Awesome catch. Probably shouldn’t get in the habit of throwing the stop route so late though.
I said it from the jump. That was an A+ throw, an A+ catch and run, and A+ coverage. Where that ball was placed the best Fuller could do was get a fingertip on it. There was no way he could have picked that. His coverage was superb, his break on the ball was decisive and perfectly timed, but the placement was spot on. Moore’s concentration to catch that and flash response to take it upfield was also amazing. If that throw had a little less juice it would be a pick six. If the placement was off six inches in any direction it would have either been a pick or an incompletion. Just my 2 cents.
I thought the throw was late… but he put it in a perfect spot….
Fields special… Poor anticipation but makes up for it with insane arm strength and accuracy.
Watch the All-22. He still isn’t throwing with anticipation. Even on quick routes that he knows he is throwing. This specific throw was a great throw, but any mistake on placement here and its going the other way for 6 in a critical moment.
Football is a game of inches. I feel as if Fields has been so scared to see that 50/50 ball fail it has paralyzed him at times. And then the deer in headlights coverage sack happens.
He had that gun slinger mentality with Moore last week. He TRUSTED Moore would win.
If Fields can build a rapport with others , improvement will continue.
Ramsy or Warner take that back for six, you have to ask yourself who you want to beat.
Am I trippin where’s the ball at in the pic? I thought it was the guy in the yellow hats face at first then I thought it was t next to the guy with the black hat but now I’m just lost.
It’s a perfect throw because of the timing, if the db is a half second earlier that’s a pick 6.
I do think it was thrown where only DJ had a shot which is good. But I also think the defender got a huge jump on the ball because Fields stared down the route. I don’t so much think he got lucky it wasn’t picked so much as I think they were fortunate Moore didn’t get broken in half stretching out for that ball.
BuT fIeLDs iS nOT tHe GuY foR tHE jOb
If he throws it sooner he doesn’t HAVE to throw it with such velocity.
I can’t remember which game it was yesterday but a qb threw an absolute piss missile on a 5 yard out route that receiver couldn’t get his hands on and the analyst said if the qb anticipates the throw better he doesn’t have to throw it that hard.
That’s why reading the field matters. The great ones make it look easy.
It was a good throw and a good catch but so much can go wrong on that throw. I think that’s why most people would take a qb that reads the field with an average arm over one that can’t with a cannon.
People were also saying Fuller shouldn’t have jumped that because he didn’t have Safety help. Obviously the score changes how aggressive DBs are gonna play but Fields had a lot of great throws both games
You’re not crazy. Even though Fuller was extremely aggressive, he couldn’t get a hand on it because of the high/away ball placement.
Maybe fortunate it wasn’t incomplete given how aggressive the CB was. But the ball placement definitely turned the high risk into high reward
The problem with these throws isn’t placement, but timing. Fields placed the throws well, but were constantly a half a tick late. Against better defenders, that half a tick is the different between a catch and a pass defended/INT.
It’s both, and we absolutely will get burned on one of those if we overdo them in future weeks.
The nice thing about stop routes is that they take advantage of coverage that is playing contain over the top, but the risk is that if they get jumped they can go the other way for six. These will continue to be effective if we mix them with deeper throws and double moves, though.
These are the throws we were begging fields to make a couple weeks ago and now that he’s doing it we are complaining and saying they’re bad throws.
Regardless of the perfect placement, the ball was a bit wobbly and probably should have came out sooner (if I remember correctly). QB school guy didn’t like the lack of anticipation in these couple of throws to Moore.
But oh well, they worked. This is the kind of stuff you do with a WR1
Even if it’s a tad late, I’m glad he’s at least attempting these throws. It’s a good first step from just standing there patting the ball; hopefully as he gets more comfortable, he’ll be quicker on the draw.
It was really close, and the defender jumped it. Every QB has those throws, though. The ball placement was good IMO as it was high, so DJ had a better shot at it.
If anything this was a poorly thrown ball. If this had been in the numbers it woulda been a pick 6.
Everyone talking about how the CB gambled and we capitalized on it. No the CB jumped the route perfectly because he knows fields wont throw to anyone else and didnt anticipate the ball being thrown to Shaq
Had he thrown it in the numbers like it shoulda been that woulda been 30-27 scoreline and we prolly go on to lose the game.
Watch the ALL22. Its a shit pass that he got extremely lucky on
At the NFL level, every pass is kinda almost a pick 6? Every other throw Purdy flings one that’s almost picked off for a huge gain for SF.
Decent throw, bad play by the defender
Hopefully I don’t get downvoted to hell for this, but I thought Mooney slowed on the tail end of the route (which is something we’ve said about him in the past) and he turned awkwardly to catch it a bit early. I thought it was a great ball and had that been Moore it would’ve been a catch.
Only risk was a tip, not a pick. Maybe a hair late, buy you can place it any better.
It’s a bit of both. The most rational criticism I’ve seen was from O’Sullivan, he replayed Fields taking two extra steps before he threw when it should’ve been a split second sooner. So it was a little of that hesitation with his feet that we see almost every play.
It was really close to a pick 6. Too close for comfort but sometimes in the NFL, the window is that tight. I think it’s ok to take risks.
It was a horribley inaccurate ball he got lucky wasn’t yet another 4th quarter pick 6.
The earlier touchdown to Moore in the corner was a perfectly placed ball.
In JT O’Sullivans’s breakdown this week, he points out how Fields still threw this pass a little late, making it so that he had to make the “perfect throw”; whereas if he’d thrown a tick earlier, it would have been a much easier completion even if it’s not perfect.
It’s not that Fields can’t make this throw. It’s that he’s making things harder on himself by not learning to throw with anticipation. Moore got a few yards of separation on his stop AND Justin made a perfect throw. If not for both of those things, it is a breakup if not a pick 6. However, Fields throwing earlier gives him more room for error in case both of those things aren’t true.
Justin having a big arm is not a question. Whether or not Justin can actually become a good QB that makes this an easier competition as opposed to the “oh no…*cringe*…YES!!!’ play it became is the question.