Braves must figure out why the Phillies make them wither in the postseason
October 13, 2023
Braves must figure out why the Phillies make them wither in the postseason
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We could’ve played the Diamondbacks or some other wild card team and still done the same thing. Non-competitive AB’s leading to 3 runs total being scored in 3 games will always get you eliminated.
We’ve got to figure what the hell the Astros do when they’re in the DS though. Their bats are always hot and ready for the DS. We tried resting last year and sim games this year, and neither worked.
You have to prepare mentally to play a modified brand of baseball when you know that your lineup is gonna be trying to find their rhythm. Our guys were pressing and playing hero ball all series. The lack of composure was just gross.
With our backs up against the wall, we recorded 3 outs on fewer than 10 pitches more than once last night. We didn’t even give multiple Phillies arms coming out of the pen time to show if they had their stuff or not.
We got 1st and 3rd with nobody out, the season on the line, and the most hapless offensive players on our team couldn’t even be bothered to see a few pitches from a new arm.
We failed to score a huge run on a wild pitch.
We couldn’t cash in a run after a 2 out error by Trea Turner put a RISP for the top of our order. Acuña looked like he knew what he was doing, then expanded the zone in a full count. Something he basically hasn’t done all year.
They did good at pitching. We did bad at pitching and hitting.
I feel like the team just doesn’t have any outspoken leaders and energetic guys that will keep the other players on that same level.
Baseball is such a mind game. Phillies have been hot when we’ve played them in post season, and we’ve been ice cold. They’re like we were on our WS win
The GOAT narrative for this year’s Braves seemed too heavy a mantle to bear when it came down to it. Put a big target on them too. Some teams feed on it (as we just saw), but didn’t seem to fuel this particular lineup unfortunately
I’d love for us to enter the postseason with healthy starting pitching. I’m not saying that was the only issue we had – obviously the offense went to sleep. Still it’s frustrating that it seems like year after year our rotation has like one guy who’s 100% healthy going into the playoffs.
Well the Phillies have better fans and players and a better stadium and culture and food. Maybe start with those issues first.
Y’all, you keep saying we were trying to play hero ball, but what?
Game 2 we won because Riley swung for the fences and hit a HR instead of going for the game tying single.
Game 3 we gave up 6 HRs.
Game 4 the Phillies hit 3 HRs and for all their baserunning traffic did nothing outside of that.
Hitting HRs wins baseball games and that’s the case in the regular season and postseason. They didn’t hit and that’s it.
I’ve seen a lot of people say our offensive approach can’t be to go for a HR every at bat.
That’s what several of the Phillies hitters did.
Because we started pressing and instead of driving the ball the other way or making any good contact we kept trying to swing out of our shoes at off speed stuff nowhere near the zone.
Ain’t nothing to do with the Phillies. It’s got everything to do with being the worst postseason franchise in the history of sports.
Braves weren’t patient at the plate all series. That’s it.
We should have practiced against the Dodgers or the AL top teams to keep warm
Every time Braves get a break or layoff, the bats get cold. We saw it after the Allstar break and 2022 playoffs. My suggestion is to lock up 4 place wild card in 2024 playoffs. A three game series could help them stay competitive. Coming in 1st in the Division and League means nothing if you can’t at least get to the NLCS. A Division title is like the smartest kid in the special ed class. And watching those cheesesteak mouth breathers go to the NLCS 2 years in a row really makes my balls salty.
It goes without saying, how many pitchers were placed on the IL this season was crazy. Andersons N, Anderson I, Lee, Chavez, Huascar, Chirinos, Fried, Wright, Morton, Soroka, McHugh, Stephen’s not including Maztek. I was actually surprised we came in 1st in regular season considering all these pitching setbacks.
The awe-shucks-ness trickles down from the top. It prevents Snit from being overbearing for 162, but without that killer instinct you are going to suffer in a sprint format.
The Phillies are sprinters and the Braves are marathon runners. They are capable of flooring it over short periods of time and going 110% and we are built for a slow and steady approach. We didn’t change our game plan to do or die and played like we would just take the next series where the Phillies said there is no tomorrow. With multiple playoff rounds, you need that edge to your game. The strategy in the post season is completely different from the regular season.
I don’t know if there’s something to this or not but I know in football, I run a LOT faster when I’m chasing after someone on defense than I do when I have the ball and being chased. I wonder if the Phillies thrive on being the chaser and we just don’t know how hard to push it after being ahead for so long.
The offense needs to learn from Riley whatever he was doing was working and felt like the only guy who showed up.
1. Team lacks leadership 2. Snitker can’t manage the team over the bye week. 3. The bye week itself is bullshit 4. Bullpen isn’t strong enough to do anything. 5. Snitker also makes stupid decisions in playoff games that cost us.
Biggest thing I saw was our offensive approach. Pitching, apart from game 3, held up reasonably well all things considered. Pen was decent, Strider was excellent, and Fried gutted through it. Our guys just weren’t able to hit the fastball like they did in the regular season. They killed it all during the year, but this series seemed to be late on every single one.
We got beat … beat down. I just started thinking about 21 and felt better. Hopefully the Philthies don’t win shit
I heard something this morning on the Locked In podcast that kind of made sense to me.
We have nobody with that kind of pissed-off swagger like Bryce Harper, someone who can crawl up asses in the clubhouse and motivate guys when they seem lost or defeated.
We did in 2021 – Joc. We need someone like that, if not Joc himself. Will that fix everything? Probably not. But I feel like that’s definitely a piece that needs addressing.
Because they own our ass. We should call them the Philadelphia Daddies
Look I know we’re all looking for a reason we can point to that this team got embarrassed by the Phillies 2 years in a row, but lol at these comments. Complaining that a team that tied the major league record for homeruns was swinging for the fences too much? We won 104 games doing that! We just sucked for 4 games, that’s all. Shit happens. If you want small ball, better trade the whole starting 9. You know who else was swinging for the fences? The Phillies. Seemed to go okay for them.
Braves hitters did a great job all year cutting down on strikeouts and putting the ball in play. Then in the NLDS it looked like they reverted back to the 2022 approach and tried to do too much each AB.
Phillies showed up. Braves star players played terrible, they they had lower energy the entire time. Nothing confident about Olson or acunas body language.. they just look like losers with their tails between their legs
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We could’ve played the Diamondbacks or some other wild card team and still done the same thing. Non-competitive AB’s leading to 3 runs total being scored in 3 games will always get you eliminated.
We’ve got to figure what the hell the Astros do when they’re in the DS though. Their bats are always hot and ready for the DS. We tried resting last year and sim games this year, and neither worked.
You have to prepare mentally to play a modified brand of baseball when you know that your lineup is gonna be trying to find their rhythm. Our guys were pressing and playing hero ball all series. The lack of composure was just gross.
With our backs up against the wall, we recorded 3 outs on fewer than 10 pitches more than once last night. We didn’t even give multiple Phillies arms coming out of the pen time to show if they had their stuff or not.
We got 1st and 3rd with nobody out, the season on the line, and the most hapless offensive players on our team couldn’t even be bothered to see a few pitches from a new arm.
We failed to score a huge run on a wild pitch.
We couldn’t cash in a run after a 2 out error by Trea Turner put a RISP for the top of our order. Acuña looked like he knew what he was doing, then expanded the zone in a full count. Something he basically hasn’t done all year.
They did good at pitching. We did bad at pitching and hitting.
I feel like the team just doesn’t have any outspoken leaders and energetic guys that will keep the other players on that same level.
Baseball is such a mind game. Phillies have been hot when we’ve played them in post season, and we’ve been ice cold. They’re like we were on our WS win
The GOAT narrative for this year’s Braves seemed too heavy a mantle to bear when it came down to it. Put a big target on them too. Some teams feed on it (as we just saw), but didn’t seem to fuel this particular lineup unfortunately
I’d love for us to enter the postseason with healthy starting pitching. I’m not saying that was the only issue we had – obviously the offense went to sleep. Still it’s frustrating that it seems like year after year our rotation has like one guy who’s 100% healthy going into the playoffs.
Well the Phillies have better fans and players and a better stadium and culture and food. Maybe start with those issues first.
Y’all, you keep saying we were trying to play hero ball, but what?
Game 2 we won because Riley swung for the fences and hit a HR instead of going for the game tying single.
Game 3 we gave up 6 HRs.
Game 4 the Phillies hit 3 HRs and for all their baserunning traffic did nothing outside of that.
Hitting HRs wins baseball games and that’s the case in the regular season and postseason. They didn’t hit and that’s it.
I’ve seen a lot of people say our offensive approach can’t be to go for a HR every at bat.
That’s what several of the Phillies hitters did.
Because we started pressing and instead of driving the ball the other way or making any good contact we kept trying to swing out of our shoes at off speed stuff nowhere near the zone.
Ain’t nothing to do with the Phillies. It’s got everything to do with being the worst postseason franchise in the history of sports.
Braves weren’t patient at the plate all series. That’s it.
We should have practiced against the Dodgers or the AL top teams to keep warm
Every time Braves get a break or layoff, the bats get cold. We saw it after the Allstar break and 2022 playoffs. My suggestion is to lock up 4 place wild card in 2024 playoffs. A three game series could help them stay competitive. Coming in 1st in the Division and League means nothing if you can’t at least get to the NLCS. A Division title is like the smartest kid in the special ed class. And watching those cheesesteak mouth breathers go to the NLCS 2 years in a row really makes my balls salty.
It goes without saying, how many pitchers were placed on the IL this season was crazy. Andersons N, Anderson I, Lee, Chavez, Huascar, Chirinos, Fried, Wright, Morton, Soroka, McHugh, Stephen’s not including Maztek. I was actually surprised we came in 1st in regular season considering all these pitching setbacks.
The awe-shucks-ness trickles down from the top. It prevents Snit from being overbearing for 162, but without that killer instinct you are going to suffer in a sprint format.
The Phillies are sprinters and the Braves are marathon runners. They are capable of flooring it over short periods of time and going 110% and we are built for a slow and steady approach. We didn’t change our game plan to do or die and played like we would just take the next series where the Phillies said there is no tomorrow. With multiple playoff rounds, you need that edge to your game. The strategy in the post season is completely different from the regular season.
I don’t know if there’s something to this or not but I know in football, I run a LOT faster when I’m chasing after someone on defense than I do when I have the ball and being chased. I wonder if the Phillies thrive on being the chaser and we just don’t know how hard to push it after being ahead for so long.
The offense needs to learn from Riley whatever he was doing was working and felt like the only guy who showed up.
1. Team lacks leadership
2. Snitker can’t manage the team over the bye week.
3. The bye week itself is bullshit
4. Bullpen isn’t strong enough to do anything.
5. Snitker also makes stupid decisions in playoff games that cost us.
Biggest thing I saw was our offensive approach. Pitching, apart from game 3, held up reasonably well all things considered. Pen was decent, Strider was excellent, and Fried gutted through it. Our guys just weren’t able to hit the fastball like they did in the regular season. They killed it all during the year, but this series seemed to be late on every single one.
We got beat … beat down. I just started thinking about 21 and felt better. Hopefully the Philthies don’t win shit
I heard something this morning on the Locked In podcast that kind of made sense to me.
We have nobody with that kind of pissed-off swagger like Bryce Harper, someone who can crawl up asses in the clubhouse and motivate guys when they seem lost or defeated.
We did in 2021 – Joc. We need someone like that, if not Joc himself. Will that fix everything? Probably not. But I feel like that’s definitely a piece that needs addressing.
Because they own our ass. We should call them the Philadelphia Daddies
Look I know we’re all looking for a reason we can point to that this team got embarrassed by the Phillies 2 years in a row, but lol at these comments. Complaining that a team that tied the major league record for homeruns was swinging for the fences too much? We won 104 games doing that! We just sucked for 4 games, that’s all. Shit happens. If you want small ball, better trade the whole starting 9. You know who else was swinging for the fences? The Phillies. Seemed to go okay for them.
Braves hitters did a great job all year cutting down on strikeouts and putting the ball in play. Then in the NLDS it looked like they reverted back to the 2022 approach and tried to do too much each AB.
Phillies showed up. Braves star players played terrible, they they had lower energy the entire time. Nothing confident about Olson or acunas body language.. they just look like losers with their tails between their legs
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