Interesting. Would Roberts haters also be hating on Lasorda if he was managing today?
October 21, 2023
Interesting. Would Roberts haters also be hating on Lasorda if he was managing today?
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No, because Lasorda would’ve won another World Series.
Winning World Series’ help keep the peace. Winning regular season games don’t count for much if you’re watching other teams hoist the trophy
They definitely would
The reality is that every fanbase hates their coach because they think their coach should be perfect all the time.
No yo I can tell lasorda was a dawg. Dude was fighting the Phillies mascot and talking shit about Kurt bavacua. Zen master roberts is soft as shit
Lasorda was a great manager, but a shit human being. Dave seems to be slightly less great as a manager, but much better as a human being. I’ll take that anytime.
I’ve been saying this for years. The comparison is instructive.
Lasorda ran Hersheiser until his fuckin arm fell off, he’d be (rightfully) crucified by a modern fanbase. Hersheiser doesn’t seem to have any regrets, so it is what it is, but Tommy wrecked his shot at the hall in exchange for the 88 series. He wouldn’t be uncontroversial as a manager.
Lasorda had balls. Roberts is a puppet
I think Lasorda would have gotten at least 1 full season championship in these past 10 years.
They did. 77 and 78. They hated him for losing to the yanks. By 81 and 88 they had forgiven him and recognized he was a remarkeable motivator.
Lasorda overused starting pitchers and undervalued defense. Sax, Duncan, and Guerrero were the worst IF in history. He motivated which is Roberts’s fault IMO.
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Yeah if I recall.. I’ll be dating myself but tommy had his fair share of criticism
Bruh, one comment on this sub was “Doc is famous for leaving a pitcher in too long, like Kersh in G1 or Lynn in G4”
And I was like…what year is this? Cuz, that was one of the main complaints about Tommy LOL
Some of the things from this 1987 article on Tommy sure sound familiar!
>Lasorda always called for such basics as a sacrifice bunt or a hit-and-run play when they were needed. The problem was that his *players often failed to execute.*
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>Usually, Lasorda will go to any length necessary to ensure that the left-right principle is followed.
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>Maybe it is merely fallout from the Jack Clark decision, but Lasorda seems criticized more for his pitching decisions than anything else.
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>Among the complaints: > >–He keeps his starting pitchers in too long, exhibiting a lack of faith in his bullpen. > >–He will go with a “hot” reliever until the pitcher either has cooled or burned out. > >–He hesitates to walk a good hitter with first base open to get a force play. Again, see Jack Clark.
Literaly apples to oranges.
I think they are victims of what is supposed to be the golden age of Dodger baseball. Those 70s/early 80/ and 2010s/early 2020s teams share a lot in common
Dominating a decade. Supposed to be the best, but the dodgers golden age is being overshadowed by a team that is having slightly more success (Yankees and Astros).
Dodgers always just seem to be second best instead of the best and many times the managers get the blame for not pushing the team over the top compared to their competitive peer.
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No, because Lasorda would’ve won another World Series.
Winning World Series’ help keep the peace. Winning regular season games don’t count for much if you’re watching other teams hoist the trophy
They definitely would
The reality is that every fanbase hates their coach because they think their coach should be perfect all the time.
No yo I can tell lasorda was a dawg. Dude was fighting the Phillies mascot and talking shit about Kurt bavacua. Zen master roberts is soft as shit
Lasorda was a great manager, but a shit human being. Dave seems to be slightly less great as a manager, but much better as a human being. I’ll take that anytime.
I’ve been saying this for years. The comparison is instructive.
Lasorda ran Hersheiser until his fuckin arm fell off, he’d be (rightfully) crucified by a modern fanbase. Hersheiser doesn’t seem to have any regrets, so it is what it is, but Tommy wrecked his shot at the hall in exchange for the 88 series. He wouldn’t be uncontroversial as a manager.
Lasorda had balls. Roberts is a puppet
I think Lasorda would have gotten at least 1 full season championship in these past 10 years.
They did. 77 and 78. They hated him for losing to the yanks. By 81 and 88 they had forgiven him and recognized he was a remarkeable motivator.
Lasorda overused starting pitchers and undervalued defense. Sax, Duncan, and Guerrero were the worst IF in history. He motivated which is Roberts’s fault IMO.
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Yeah if I recall.. I’ll be dating myself but tommy had his fair share of criticism
Bruh, one comment on this sub was “Doc is famous for leaving a pitcher in too long, like Kersh in G1 or Lynn in G4”
And I was like…what year is this? Cuz, that was one of the main complaints about Tommy LOL
Some of the things from this 1987 article on Tommy sure sound familiar!
[https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-08-23-sp-3256-story.html](https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-08-23-sp-3256-story.html)
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>Lasorda always called for such basics as a sacrifice bunt or a hit-and-run play when they were needed. The problem was that his *players often failed to execute.*
​
>Usually, Lasorda will go to any length necessary to ensure that the left-right principle is followed.
​
>Maybe it is merely fallout from the Jack Clark decision, but Lasorda seems criticized more for his pitching decisions than anything else.
​
>Among the complaints:
>
>–He keeps his starting pitchers in too long, exhibiting a lack of faith in his bullpen.
>
>–He will go with a “hot” reliever until the pitcher either has cooled or burned out.
>
>–He hesitates to walk a good hitter with first base open to get a force play. Again, see Jack Clark.
Literaly apples to oranges.
I think they are victims of what is supposed to be the golden age of Dodger baseball. Those 70s/early 80/ and 2010s/early 2020s teams share a lot in common
Dominating a decade. Supposed to be the best, but the dodgers golden age is being overshadowed by a team that is having slightly more success (Yankees and Astros).
Dodgers always just seem to be second best instead of the best and many times the managers get the blame for not pushing the team over the top compared to their competitive peer.